>Awakening was his first FE
Jokes on you, Fates will be my first FE.
>FE7 was his first FE
Yeah, that's right.
It's also the best FE.
What if my first FE was 7 and my favorites are Awakening and Path of Radiance.
>no Light Magic ever again
FE8 was my first. FE11 was my second. And now I'm doing the Eirika campaign in FE8 (Ephraim campaign before), and once I'm done with that I plan on doing FE7.
Thoughts?
>he likes FE games with grinding in them
>>316488875
What's the problem here?
FE12 is my favorite though.
>Sacred Stones was my first FE
>Didn't really like it that much
>Played Awakening
>Loved it
>>316488642
Mine was Radiant Dawn. You can't fuck up harder than I did.
My final team was Ike, Shiron, Nephenee, Haar, the essentials and like 5 Paladins and 5 Marshall's btw.
>He actually liked the subhumans
>>316488986
>magic triangle is gone forever
>so is rescue
>so is pirate class
I'm gonna fuck Elise.
>>316489379
FE8 wasdecentas fuck
B-but what if FE6 was his first FE?
>>316488642
what's the problem
>>316490194
He would have Lord issues
>>316489757
>there are sub-humans on /v/
>>316490445
>main male sucks for 75% of his game
>main female needs 10 pairs of glasses to see straight
He must've had fun.
>>316489757
But they're so fun to bully! Cats are meant for that!
>>316489983
Good choice anon.
>>316489757
Subhumans are cute though
>>316490335
The actual problem is how easy and boring the game is but most kiddies hate it for "waifus". Did Serra, Lyn, Nephenee, Micaiah and Mia suddenly stop existing?
>>316490649
By "waifu" people don't just mean cute girls. As far as I recall before Awakening there were no cutesy confession CGs.
>>316488642
>fire emblem will never have the Bishop class and light magic ever again
thanks for reminding me..
>>316490646
>>316490635
>>316488875
Mine was but only because I played it when it came out in like 2003 senpai
>>316488875
Mine was FE8.
And I'll admit: I bought it after passing on FE7 most likely just because of that gorgeous boxart. Sachiko Wada makes every other FE artist look like an amateur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-723PrXS4
played SS, PoR and RD all before FE7. the first third of the fucking game is a tutorial and nothing about the game is particularly interesting.
mechanically RD is by far the best one and possibly the only decent game IMO. sacred stones has cool characters and the option to grind. path of radiance feels grand and has a nice if cliche story (only fault is that it doesn't really start until Greil dies)
FE7 and by extension FE6 have nothing. even the older games have progressive innovation, then the series gets to GBA, suddenly the spritework becomes great in exchange for gutting most features present after the first one.
tl;dr FE6/7 suck ass, would not recommend
I liked SS and that other GBA one. still have no idea how the nomenclature of this series works. I played awakening and I can understand why fans shit all over it, though.
>>316488875
i dont see the problem with this considering it was the first FE in the states
>>316491980
>still have no idea how the nomenclature of this series works
The games can be numbered for convenience but the titles don't actually have numbers in them.
FE1: Original shitty game
FE2: Gaiden
FE3: Remake/sequel of original shitty game
FE4: Genealogy of the Holy War
FE5: Thracia 776
FE6: Binding Blade
FE7: Fire Emblem (Blazing Sword in Japan)
FE8: Sacred Stones
FE9: Path of Radiance
FE10: Radiant Dawn
FE11: Remake of original shitty game
FE12: Remake of sequel section of remake/sequel of original shitty game
FE13: Awakening
FE14: Fates
/v/ likes 4 through 10 the most, Nintendo likes to pretend most of those games don't exist though.
>his favorite FE is 4
>>316488642
But Awakening wasn't even a FE game.
It was fun. I enjoyed the waifus and the eugenics, but let's not pretend it was a Fire Emblem game...
>TFW no Gaben Emblem
Why are there almost no SRPGs on PC?
>>316493449
4u?
>>316491775
Based Hector tho
>>316493887
>TFW you will never be Lyndis
>TFW Hector will never take you roughly from behind
>>316494016
If Hector fucked Lyn, why does his daughter have the worst Skill in FE6?
>>316494016
HectorXEliwood 4 lyfe
>>316491775
>only decent game IMO
I disagree strongly. It had fantastic mechanics built on PoR amazing foundation but it has so many annoying little faults that take away from it as a game like party members falling off the face of the earth for most of the game and you have literally no way of knowing whose going to stay.
>>316494150
Because Lyn sucks (inmore ways than one), and Hector's genes are recessive.
>>316491539
my brother from another mother
>>316494345
>Part 1 in Hard Mode
>>316494283
Eliwood would totally get keked by Hector and you know it.
>>316494016
It looks more like Eliwood is getting A rank supported, to me.
>>316494571
>implying they don't go after different women
who is best dancer and why is itLyn
>>316494839
That's just the official story Anon.
>>316494839
isnt that supposed to be hector who is that guy?
>>316495131
Nah mate, Hector was on vacation.
>>316494512
>A reason to fight
>"FE is dead."
How to spot butthurt
>>316495343
Will we ever have a character as beautiful as Oliver ever again?
>>316491539
Sacred Stones was my first as well and that shit is the tits. I love it more than FE7 to be honest, even while knowing its faults
>>316489757
why would I choose humans over monstergirls, might as well just go outside and date a real woman.
>>316489789
>magic triangle is gone forever
>so is rescue
Both are in Fates. Magic and Bows have been brought into the regular triangle and rescue is a Cavalier class skill.
The original magic triangle was pretty pointless. But now it has advantage over Bows and Axe wielders the triangle actually has some use for magic users.
>>316495712
>wanting to fuck a subhuman
>thinking 3D = 2D
>>316496097
>The original magic triangle was pretty pointless.
No it wasn't. They just never introduced more than 1 light mage and 1 dark mage while giving you 6 mages so the mechanic always played against you.
Joke's on you,my first FE was 7, and I've played every game in the series.
>>316490881
Light magic was shit anyway.
Magic Triangle was always redundant (aside from elemental triangle in FE4-5), attacking a high-res unit with magic is pointless, you were better off attacking physical units, for which the, which is something even more important now that magic is part of the weapon triangle.
>>316496451
>People actually played with and leveled Erk in FE7
Poor bastards.
>>316495487
he was a better protagonist and healer than micaiah ever was
>>316496735
>>316496985
i loved how they forced you to bring sothe in the tower while nobody gives a fuck about pelleas.
>>316488642
Hey I'm working on completing previous FE games like Blazing Sword and Shadow Dragon.
What FE game is the hardest anyways /v/?
>>316489789
Don't forget:
>Only dark magic tome in Fates is Nosferatu
>No Mire
>No Ruin
>No Eclipse
What a waste of an opportunity. I know the Sorcerers in Awakening were pretty OP, but did they really to nerf them to hell like that.
>>316497269
To be honest, I wish I could just forget about Pelleas too. The pathetic dumbass fucked pretty much everything up with the help of "Pour the Oil on the Human Soil" "The Savior" "The Goddess" Micaiah.
>>316497269
Micaiah is pretty much a cult figurehead.
>>316497417
Thracia due to game mechanics. If you don't know it's coming, you're going to get fucked
>>316497517
the fact that he didn't bother reading a four line contract before signing it with blood is the best plot tool
>>316497678
how bad could it be? the first chapters were pretty easy. now i just need to open this door to escape the prison..
>>316497417
FE12 Lunatic is the hardest due to shitty units and crazy enemy stats.
Thracia was the hardest in a legitimate way (not hard due to stats, but enemy positioning and map design) until Lunatic Nohr (which also has good enemy positioning and map design, AND high stats).
>First FE is 7
>Favorite is 5
>Get called a tryhard
>>316498091
Only Telliusbabies will call you a tryhard, because they can't fathom 10 not being someone's favorite.
>He doesn't like subhumans
I still like 7 the most and you can never kill my nostalgia.
>>316498270
I have almost never seen this opinion and am pretty sure you're just making it up.
>>316496735
>cassanova character is best character in jrpg
>>316498531
Serra or Priscilla?
Rebecca or Wil?
>>316498523
In 10 you don't really have a reason to until you regularly get access to royals.
They fucking blow in 10, which is annoying as hell since they were literally all godly in 9.
>>316488642
Why does this nigger have the eight pointed star of chaos on his book? Is he secretly corrupted by chaos?
>>316498850
That made me mad as hell.
>actually and completely terrible units across the board, a few could be maybe "okay" if you put a LOT of work into them
>royals are so good that you could have used literally no one else and still beat the game if you just bring them in the end
>>316498720
it is pretty common amongst the Serenes/Reddit crowd.
Most of those people like Thracia too though
>>316498774
I like Serra more now that I'm older but as a kid I always used Priscilla because horse.
Rebecca every time.
>>316498720
Hang around FE threads or /feg/
I've literally seen shitstorms about 10 being the best and FE4-5 fans being kagakeks and whatnot.
>>316498774
Not that guy but Priscilla and Rebecca
>Liking FE
>he doesn't like micaiah
She was my favorite lord until robin came along.
I'm so tired of sword protagonists hector and ephraim were such a breath of fresh air
It was mine and it made me sell my 3DS. It's like what you expect from a vita game and since people told me that it's one of the best games on the system I just sold it because those low quality weeb games can go fuck themself for 40€ a piece.
>>316499065
Serenes is actually a minmaxing, tryhard group of players, they don't partake in those discussions.
>>316499240
Okay sure maybe you liked her mechanically (she was terrible at that too) but surely you must have looked at that story and noticed how she was a 14 year old girl's self insert?
>>316499282
I remember Serenes being into efficiency and LTC when I lurked there, which is like the opposite of minmaxing.
I've never gone on their awakening boards though, maybe that is where minmaxers congregate.
never thought that but it's been awhile since I played the game
>>316499240
You started with FE7, you literally only had Eliwood and Ike as main sword lords.
Lyn isn't the main lord but I guess you could count Eirika.
>>316499282
>FE is about minmaxing
>not about using units with endearing personalities and seeing how far you can take them
How did they get things so wrong?
>>316499718
>using actual shit characters
Let us not go crazy now.
>>316499590
I meant efficiency when I said minmaxing, my bad. And by Tryhards I meant LTC (though I admit doing LTCs myself).
>>316498850
>use lethe in 9
>pretty good, not the best but fun to use
>try to use her in 10
>reverts back not even after one turn
What the fuck
>>316499718
It's about minmaxing if you want to live easy.
If you play on harder difficulties with the sole intent of minmaxing you may as well do fuckall on easy.
I prefer having a bloody hard time on harder difficulties rather than breezing trough the second part of every game because I did that.
Some characters still remain beyond saving even if you want to use them tho.
>>316499240
>micaiah was a breath of fresh air
In literally one regard, which is class and in no way shape or form anything else. She sucks as a mage, she sucks as a character, her units sucks, her story sucks and HER STORY SUCKS.
"oh im long lost royalty who can't do anything right and make terrible irrational decisions but i'm treated as the team tactician who every loves Literally no-one in my army is good except maybe Nolan and Jill who ike steals because Ike is one the game remembers to suppose to be fun. Also lets make sothe forced by not premote him for majority of game, and make him strictly a downgrade to Volke"
FUCK MICAIAH, AND FUCK YOU FOR DEFENDING THAT PIECE OF SHIT.
>>316499718
>How did they get things so wrong?
FE is a tactical RPG franchise, you either play it for the tactics or the characters. I play it both ways, but I tend to do it more for the tactics. Both ways of playing them are okay.
After all, it's the only big Tactical RPG franchise still alive, and it's the one that always offered the most interesting maps (while TO had a better battle system and story, and FFT had way better character building).
>tfw really like fire emblem stories and characters
>tfw hate the gameplay
Anyone here in a similar boat
>>316499718
>endearing personalities
most units hardly get more than one line of dialogue.
also on harder difficulties a medium-large amount of units are just not salvageable. just pick a waifu and force feed her kills.
>>316500093
between FE, FFT, TO, the latter is the one with the battle system i enjoyed least, why did you consider it to be better?
>>316500340
Good news eventually you won't have either based on the trending decline in quality this series is having, so you won't have to feel bad for much longer.
>>316500340
No, sorry, I like both.
FE characters are nothing special (but they're pretty endearing), but it's my favorite franchise after playing all 14 games, it's just nice to chill out and watch some TV show while starting a new playthrough and trying something different, with a simple but solid gameplay.
>>316500340
phoenix mode was literally invented for people in your situation
>>316500093
Perhaps you would enjoy Disgaea. But the generic party (like in etrian odyssey, etc) bumped me out.
>>316500487
>Good news eventually you won't have either based on the trending decline in quality this series is having
Nohr is the best FE since FE5.
>>316500359
>the latter is the one with the battle system i enjoyed least, why did you consider it to be better?
Tons of variables that you can manipulate, it's satisfying to prepare an attack beforehand.
And then you notice how broken archers are.
>>316491539
Stones is GOAT
>>316500741
>Nohr is the best FE since FE5.
I'm sure you think that, yes.
>>316500676
I have played Disagea 1 and 2, and I don't like it that much, since the tactical element is lacking.
I don't mind generic characters though.
You should try Shining Force if generic characters put you off so much.
Some game from the Dept. Heaven series would be good too.
>>316500886
I don't "think it", I know it, since I've played both already.
I've already played FE14 three routes.
Fe4 is the shittiest FE, prove me wrong.
>>316500989
>I don't "think it", I know it, since I've played both already.
It's adorable that you think your opinion equates to facts. So again I say, yes, I'm sure you think that.
>>316501084
>>316488642
Awakening was my first, but FE9 is my favorite.
What now.
How is Fates anyway?
>>316500340
>I don't like playing the game, I only like the story
That's a lot of what's wrong with the modern generation of gamers.
>>316500989
Get a load of this guy.
You haven't even told us which department your dad works in at Nintendo yet.
>>316500741
mages were kinda shitty. white knights underwhelming. even the special sword master was garbage. most of the maps were "kill X", and the best way to do so was to 1hko it with an archer finisher.
the class system lacked any sense of progression. the skill settings were mostly flat power ups.
>>316501404
It's okay. All the same problems as awakening but better.
>>316498734
>they have almost the same name
i smell lore
>>316501267Gaiden is actually pretty fun and one of my favorites. Alm is basically proto-Hector/Ike and Celica is the best female MC in the series.
>>316501267
I think whoever was the map designer for Gaiden must have been intentionally trolling the rest of the developers, even the good maps had enemies spattered about weirdly or just the same class over and over.
>>316501236
>It's adorable that you think your opinion equates to facts.
Just like your own opinion about the "steady decline in quality" of the series right?
>>316501683
Game has been out in Japan for months, anon.
>>316501404
Nohr is great, Hoshido is better than Awakening bot not that good, Invisible is somewhere in between.
>>316501868
That's why I commented on the battle system, I didn't like character building in TO.
>>316502363
I see, so you are going by hearsay?
Based on popular opinion, people would have said Awakening was the best in the franchise. You can't trust plebs, anon. Even Japan has plebs.
>>316502738
>I see, so you are going by hearsay?
No, as I said, I've played the game already.
You can play it on a 3DS using CFW anon, even the DLC.
There is even a partial translation patch out already.
>>316502363
Ah yes, because Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon, Heroes of Light and Shadow, and Awakening had no major flaws that detracted from the experiences and all accounts were improvements from their predecessors.
yes, that opinion is correct and the notion that maybe FE have had to settle since 10, (since 6 even) is incorrect.
>>316502738
No he's right. People undersell Fates by simply saying the gameplay is "better than Awakening". They've made changes and gameplay mechanic adjustments long overdue by atleast a decade.
Fates is the first entry since Thracia 776 to seriously progress the gameplay in the series past the huge standstill we had for a very long time.
>>316502991
FE12 was an improvement over FE11
>>316501908
I'm glad theres at least one other person in this thread with good taste in rpgs.
Have a nice day friend.
>>316503309
I said predecessors, not predecessor. Shadow Dragon may as well be the original game.
>>316502991
>Ah yes, because Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon, Heroes of Light and Shadow, and Awakening had no major flaws that detracted from the experiences and all accounts were improvements from their predecessors.
Are you a retard? I haven't said this at all. If you actually want to hear my opinion about those, here you go:
FE10 is much better than FE7-9, gameplay-wise. FE11 is also a really good remake of FE1, with FE12 is one of the best games in the series. FE13 is pretty much the only letdown.
You're trying to pass your own opinion as fact (that FE has seen a decline in quality) while disregarding my own opinion (that Nohr is the best FE since FE5).
Face it, your opinion is as personal as mine. Just like "I think" that Nohr is the best since Nohr, "you think" that FE has seen a noticeable decline in quality, when it's literally on 13 that has been a massive letdown.
Now fuck off.
>>316488642
>he only plays Awakening because the old games don't have an in depth marriage system
>>316501084
Fucking this.
>One of the easiest FE's ever.
>Huge maps that are poorly designed.
>Shit balance.
>70% of the time is spent moving rather than fighting.
>Looks ugly.
>Overrated OST.
>Main lord is a literal kek.
Meme Game.
>>316503274
He doesn't know shit.
He thinks 6-8 are the best when they already were a huge setback in gameplay mechanics that only 9 started to reintroduce and 10 improved. 14 has really adjusted the game mechanics on a new level, even giving use to archers which were often overlooked unless they were broken like Shinon.
>>316503491
I disregarded your opinion as fact, and nothing more. You made the rest of these assumptions yourself.
>>316503614
Awakening's marriage system is pretty similar to FE4, except for the My Unit system.
Why the fuck do people hate Awakening again?
>>316503963
FE4 doesn't have the support system though so marriage can happen with either no or only a little dialogue(and even then it can just be "Hey I have this item and I'm giving it to you") between characters.
>>316503960
> You made the rest of these assumptions yourself.
You literally made a strawman out of something I didn't even say.
is there a more braindead strategy game than fire emblem
Who /CELICE/ here?
>>316504116
bad maps and some poorly designed mechanics are the main legitimate complaints
I'm sure some people also just hate it because it was popular
>>316504252
That's not integral to the marriage system anyway.
>>316504116
I don't hate it, but the low difficulty and dumbed down maps were a letdown.
It's great that FE14 refined the new mechanics though, pair up is actually pretty good now that it's nerfed and enemies can use it.
>>316504410
>Tfw I can't stand most of the characters in FE14
True suffering.
I miss the extravagant criticals from the GBA games
>>316504410
>It's great that FE14 refined the new mechanics though
Would someone who's only real experience with FE is Awakening like Fates?
>>316504271
It's a tactical game, not strategy game.
And yes, TO, Langrisser or FFT are incredibly easy compared to FE, with their main appeal being character building or actual good plot.
Fire Emblem has good maps and tactics for the most part, aside from some poor entries like FE8 or FE13. And some of them are actually decently hard like FE5 or FE12.
>>316504271
whos dis?
>>316504265
>>316500989
Your wording implied your treated your opinion as facts and I called you on it accordingly. You implied my opinion baseless as your rebuttal and I pointed out that virtually every release since -at least- 10 had mixed opinions.
If you do not wish to made a "strawman" then choose your words more carefully.
>>316504510
Definitely, but Hoshido is the one aimed at Awakening fans. Nohr is clearly aimed at kagafags like me who like older and harder games of the series.
Definitely give Nohr a try though, it's really good, played it 3 times already and Lunatic can be somewhat hard at parts (like the first defend mission), which makes it really satisfying to beat it.
>>316504574
>He didn't get Apotheosis
You want difficulty, try that.
Fucking impossible
>>316504510
from my understanding Birthright/Hoshido is basically designed to be similar to Awakening, although maybe better balanced.
I haven't played it yet though
The first and only FE I played was the one with furry racism and overpowered redhead paladin at the start. I honestly don't even remember which one was it.
>>316504743
I'm considering getting the special edition, but i will do Hoshido first.
Mainly because you can lesbian romance a descendant of Tharja.
>>316504954
>Neo Fire Emblem fans
True suffering, I wish you would all just stick to Serenes
Best Lord.
>>316505056
>stick to Serenes
what does that mean?
I love anime. I live it when i get to see a girl
>>316504734
>Your wording implied your treated your opinion as facts and I called you on it accordingly.
Except I didn't treat it as fact. What I meant was that I didn't "think about it", but that I knew it from experience since I actually played the game, the other anon that replied thought that I was saying it from hearsay, I was clarifying that.
>You implied my opinion baseless as your rebuttal
I didn't though, I said that your opinion is only as valid as mine.
>and I pointed out that virtually every release since -at least- 10 had mixed opinions.
That's not what you were saying initially though, you claimed that I was saying the following:
>Ah yes, because Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon, Heroes of Light and Shadow, and Awakening had no major flaws that detracted from the experiences and all accounts were improvements from their predecessors.
Which was strawman you made, as I wasn't saying that at all.
Even then, those mixed opinions must be your own, because literally every game in the series have people liking them or not, not only newer games. in fact the only games with massive negative reception were FE11 and FE13, and it's mostly exaggerated in the internet.
>>316504757
I beat it, It's easy to beat with eugenics, rally bots and forced tomes.
>>316505157
I just want all you casual waifufags to go back to your community over at Serenes.
>>316505056
Serenes would scorn them for not being efficient.
They belong in gamefaqs, fags who insist on not using prepromotes.
>>316505374
What about the harder mode you get if you clear the first wave in 2 turns?
>>316505256
>FE13
>negative reception
>Average rating of 92%
>One of the best selling entries to date
>>316504574
unless there's a condition to clear y map in x in turns or reach y point in x turns it's never difficult
compared to its sister series Advance Wars the strategy is so bare bones, boiling down to baiting with the powerful unit that can not be damaged and abusing terrain and chokepoints
there is no forward thinking required because of the lack of ways to be hit from a distance or approached
again when there's no urgency it's "braindead", moreso when enemy units won't move unless in range. their behavior and priority in choosing targets is stupid predictable and straight forward
>>316505483
Serenes is waifufag central now, mate. Have a look.
>>316505483
>prepromotes
what do you mean by that?
>>316505534
>What about the harder mode you get if you clear the first wave in 2 turns?
I meant that mode. You can even cheese it, see the youtube videos.
>negative reception
>Average rating of 92%
>One of the best selling entries to date
Which is why I said it was exaggerated on the internet, just check any FE thread. It had a negative reception from plenty of long time fans, and mixed opinions from others (like me, but it's not near the bottom of my tier list).
>>316505706
Units that start on their second tier of classes, like Seth the soloking or le wacky Chrom man in FE13
>>316505256
The "strawman" was made to point out that my opinion isn't baseless, and nothing more. I never pointed it out to reinforce you believed it.
>those mixed opinions must be your own
Nope, it's a common opinion even among people liked the newer releases that each game has flaws. I literally, LITERALLY never said at any point people couldn't like these games, just there is a decline in quality and fans have to settle their expectations to enjoy their games.
can someone tell me why, graphically, FE9 looks sooo much better than FE10?
Sure FE10 has more animations and such but damn, after playing through FE9, Radiant Dawn even plays like shit. It's a lot worse than I thought goddamn
>>316504271
more
>>316505591
From your post I can deduce that you haven't played the better entries in the series, have you only played Awakening?
Most games in teh series have ballistae that attack you from range, agressive enemies and various objectives and maps.
Also using chokepoints and using (how is using terrain abusing) terrain is literal tactics, and pretty much what a lot of AW relies on (the other huge aprt being resource managing)
>>316504574
>fire emblem
>tactics
oh boy, i sure do love RNG controlling all my actions! such riveting tactical gameplay!
>dumbass gets lucky crit
>clears too many enemies
>dies because he's not a dodgetank
or even better,
>enemy gets crit
>entire strategy ruined, char dies
unlike games with actual strategy and no insta-permadeath that allow for some flexibility if there's a fuck up somewhere caused either by a flaw in your strategy OR rng
>>316504943
Path of Radiance
>>316505591
That's mostly true, if the enemy units do not move on their own. I don't remeber PoR or RD that well, but in FE:A there are many maps (especially the children missions) where an army is moving towards you putting you under pressure. If you arent't overleveled, those missions can be pretty difficult in my point of view.
>>316506094
> just there is a decline in quality and fans have to settle their expectations to enjoy their games.
And that's your own opinion.
>>316506008
Wait, so Lord is a Second Tier Class?
Whatever, the thing that annoys me in FE13 is when i see a streetpass team that has a LV30 Villager Donnel.
>>316506484
No lad, Fredrick is le wacky Chrom man. Chrom is Chrom.
>>316505591
>boiling down to baiting with the powerful unit that can not be damaged
Play with 0% growths
>>316506559
Funny story about Fredrick.
On my first play-through of FE13 i used Fredrick quite a bit through out to help me.
On my second one (or rather my second attempt to complete it after my save got deleted by my aunt) i just forgot about Fredrick in slew of leveling up all my other players.
>>316506357
>oh boy, i sure do love RNG controlling all my actions! such riveting tactical gameplay!
Other tactical games run on RNG too, or do you forget that crits, misses and hits are all present in every tactical RPG? Every game in the RPG genre is affected by RNG, it's the nature of RPGs.
In fact, games like TO or FFT also run dices to determine damage between a min and max value, unlike FE which runs on simple damage formulas, they're even more prone to RNG.
So considering that, yes, it's a tactical game, and if you fuck up and someone dies then you gotta adapt your tactics, if it's too unforgiving for you then reset or play casual mode like the casual you are.
The only game complex enough that doesn't do anything of this is AW, and the franchise is dead because no one bought Days of Ruin, even though it was great.
>>316506389
And you are the only one who insists I treat it as fact. Please remember this particular argument stems from me saying "and I pointed out that virtually every release since -at least- 10 had mixed opinions".
The "strawman" is another way of saying the same thing, and both were done to show my -opinion-, see the very first line you replied to, is not baseless.
>>316506792
How is that funny? That's what he's there to do, be a crutch for first time players who are having difficulty on the early maps.
>>316506847
>>316506357
If you want something like Advance Wars play Codename: S.T.E.A.M. Although that has the problem that it will likely never get another entry because next to no one bought it.
>people are actually going to spend EIGHTY UNITED STATES DOLLARYDOOS on this awful split release
>they will spend even more on DLC
The games already out in Japan, right? Are they actually different or is it just same levels, different characters? Is the final boss different?
And how's the objective variety? Or is it just "every map is a rout" like awakening
>>316507073
I have played it already, doesn't remind me of Advance wars at all, it's more like XCOM.
>>316507073
b-but muh animu art style
>>316507073
STEAM isn't really like AW at all, it's XCOM.
>>316504943
if you don't move you're gonna get fucked by enemies spawning in the back and 1hko'ing your healer, or you just get run over by continous respawns. or your shit gets wrecked by meteors.
>>316506847
did you completely miss my last line?
>unlike games with actual strategy and no insta-permadeath that allow for some flexibility if there's a fuck up somewhere caused either by a flaw in your strategy OR rng
no shit other trpgs have rng, but because one lucky crit or miss doesn't mean lolinstadeath you can overcome and adapt
>So considering that, yes, it's a tactical game, and if you fuck up and someone dies then you gotta adapt your tactics
lol how am i supposed to adapt to a lucky crit killing my main lord or one of my main units? the fact is, in a game with limited XP, you pretty much can't just "adapt your tactics" every time you lose an extremely vital team member to bullshit you cannot possibly anticipate
>>316507073
>valkyria chronicles with 4 man squads
no thanks
>>316506986
My point was that it was funny that i didn't even need him as a crutch the second time.
Not really that funny now that i think about it.
>>316507141
Birthright campaign is Rout stuff, Conquest has more varied objectives (like 'move all units to this area' or 'Defend this unit for 6 turns')
>>316507141
>The games already out in Japan, right? Are they actually different or is it just same levels, different characters? Is the final boss different?
Most of the levels and characters are different, though sometimes (2 or 3 missions) have you playing "the other side" depending on the game. Final bosses are different.
>And how's the objective variety? Or is it just "every map is a rout" like awakening
Nohr has different objectives for most maps, and every map has a gimmick to it like FE5, Hoshido is rout fest.
Having played (using CFW) the three routes I can say that $80 is a good price for the three routes, they amount to what would be 2.5 standard FE games.
>>316507141
Nohr is classic Fire Emblem with variety of mission objectives and varying map designs.
Hoshido is more FE:A style with grinding but the map design is at least much better than Awakenings. But only slightly.
IK is gimmicks.
>>316507439
How many DLC maps are there and how much do they cost?
>>316507428
>>316507439
>>316507554
I was already planning to get Nohr because I'm not a weeb but you guys completely sold me on it. Thx
>>316507720
Don't forget that you can download Hoshido after completing Nohr for a discounted price.
>>3165072937
>no shit other trpgs have rng, but because one lucky crit or miss doesn't mean lolinstadeath you can overcome and adapt
You can overcome and adapt instadeath too, it's about using tactics or playing safer, or making a strategy that doesn't use the dead unit. You can always reset if you fuck too much.
If there are people that can beat games using one unit or 0% growths, surely you aren't shit enough to cry after losing one of them right? It's all about tactics.
>lol how am i supposed to adapt to a lucky crit killing my main lord or one of my main units?
If it's your lord, then tough luck, play safer, any other one should make you adapt.
>the fact is, in a game with limited XP, you pretty much can't just "adapt your tactics" every time you lose an extremely vital team member to bullshit you cannot possibly anticipate
Fire Emblem has the Gotoh archetype to avoid this, most of the entries give you an overpowered unit in the last mission to ensure you can beat it, and toss you enough units through the game so you never run out.
>>316504320
Arguably the best example of a Lord who starts out bad but turns out great.
>>316506357
You have to formulate your strategy around what happens if the RNG fails. Throwing your units around will just end up with one dead because you assumed the best would happen.
so did any of you niggers play hoshigami ruining blue earth?
is it good?
>>316488875
I don't really understand why people shit on everyone for playing the first FE game to get a NA release.
Is it just butthurt Awakening fans that are mad because people that started with FE7 or earlier think Awakening was shit?
>>316508186
I have tried to play it on DS and PSX, I can't, the coinfeign system is just too arcane for me.
sup
>>316507872
celice starts out good if he inherits a 50+ kill silver sword and maybe a couple rings
>>316508371
Weebs like to pretend that Fire Emblem wasnt obscure as fuck in the West before Melee
>>316507872
He was never as good as his dad for me.
Best soldier/halberdier/sentinel coming through.
>>316508601
True, but he still gets even better with investment.
>>316509030
His dad doesn't have fire-proof armor though.
FINISH THE TRANSLATE FUCKING WEABOOS
ALSO NOHR MASTER RACE
>>316509471
I blame plot.
The Tyrfing should've helped him at least a little.
>>316509408
I'm not surprised this was behind the spoiler.
Aran was better.
>>316509579
I find it funny how every FE fan is usually really good with spoilers, but then nobody can contain themselves when they have the chance to burn Sigurd.
>>316506616
doesn't really add anything meaningful to the game just makes it a lot more tedious
>>316509924
we can't help it.
>>316509849
The only major problem with Aran is thathe is with the Dawn Brigade.
>>316509849
His speed cap was lackluster.
>>316509849
Aran is too slow. Neph is so fast she always doubles and any def advantage aran has is meaningless because she never gets hit anyway
>>316510550
Arguably it's to his benefit since you'll more than likely never focus on more than any 3 units in dawn.
Aran's really serious issue is shit speed growth and cap, but in all other regards Aran is fantastic.
