Now that the dust has settled, what's the one thing we can all openly agree on?
It sold over 12 million units.
I can't wait for the next TES ;)
Decent game, buggy as shit, not an RPG, worse than all of its predecessors.
It's fun
>>316482312
Why is there no fallout 1 and 2?
It's the best 3d fallout yet. NV had the better writing but 4 beats it everywhere else.
>>316482558
because the smug dipshit that made it never played them
>>316481624
GOTY
That it's a bad fucking decision to KILL A MAJOR FUCKING CHARACTER OFF SCREEN?!?!? RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>316482673
>no crits outside VATS
>legendary items are RNG drops
>survival mode literally means enemies become bullet sponges and do more damage instead of adding hunger/thirst
>writing not one of the most important aspects of a RPG
You tried
Ugly as shit. Fun as hell. Will be a 10/10 with mods in 2 years.
>>316481624
shitty quests with no choices at all
>>316482992
Doesn't matter.
NV:
Dreadful map
NPCs repeat dialogue like I've never seen in a game before. Completely breaks immersion for me
No atmosphere
Copy paste locations
Horrible combat
Okay dialogue but is incredibly tedious and bland at some points
It's a good game but fallout is about exploring.. And the mojave is just god damned awful. It looks like a bunch of orange playdoh with generic dungeons glued onto it. It truly is horrendous.
>>316483312
It's the goddanm desert faggot. I like my deserts empty and barren. Really makes you feel like an apocalyptic cowboy
Say what you want, but the sound is pretty sweet sometimes
Webm with sound
http://webmshare.com/eX1Va
>>316483704
I love deserts but it's executed horribly. I'm glad you enjoy it but it just looks like utter shit to me. Look at RDR if you'd like to see how a desert should be done.
>>316483714
>those animations
God...
The dialogue system and VA is limited, just like everyone said it would be.
Equipped weapons not visible is a strange decision.
Needing to be high level before you can get master hacking or lockpicking is stupid.
I don't like the borderlands enemy/loot system. Random loot feels boring and only benefits online games with trading. No purpose in a single player game.
Basebuilding is weirdly implemented. Feels like a tacked on mod and has no changing camera angles.
2015 has taught me that game design is becoming directionless. People copy things from other games without understanding why those games had those things. W3, MGS5, FO4 - all guilty.
>>316483312
>fallout is about exploring.. And the mojave is just god damned awful
90% of exploring in these games has always taken place in interiors. The same is true for NV. The map is littered with places to explore.
>>316483704
This
Universally Liked:
Weapon Modding
Universally HATED:
The fucking dialog system
>>316483704
but NV's desert isn't empty at all... you can't walk more for more than 40 seconds without finding something
>>316483312
Those are just lies
>>316484229
>Universally HATED:
NEWSPAPERS
>>316483826
>you will never have that feeling that you had when you slowly paced down a dusty trail on your horse and stared into the vastness of the starry night sky with a faint whistle in the background
RDR was a game
>>316481624
It's not an RPG or a good Fallout game or even a great game but I'm having a lot of fun with it
I think the way they made Power Armors into big mech things is really cool
Finding Power Armor parts and using them on your own set reminds me of Armored Core
Fallout 3 was a terrible game and a terrible RPG
Bethesda finally learned from their mistakes and basically stopped making RPGs and honestly I welcome the change
It's nowhere near as good as 1 2 or New Vegas but it's an enjoyable game
After the embarrassment that was "May steel be with you" I never would've thought that Bethesda would do anything cool with the Brotherhood but playing this mission with a Power Armor on and bro-oping with the paladin guy was pretty good.
>>316484712
>entering into Mexico for the first time
>sun going down
>guitar starts playing out of nowhere
>"step in front of a runaway train...just to feel alive again"
Holy shit that game is fucking God tier
>mfw Ben Stiller played the same song in Walter Mitty
>>316481624
I'm glad I pirated this. The controls, the menus, the diffculty, the story, the graphics and the engine are all so fucking bad
Off topic but, I have over 15 hours in this game and i've yet to encounter a rad storm
The fuck
>>316485908
>Ben Stiller
>Walter Mitty
>>316481624
That the world is one of the best ever created.
The rest is garbage.
>>316481624
Powered Armor.
It actually makes you feel like a badass and is the ONLY thing good about 4. And yet it is not enough to save it.
>>316483312
>fallout NV
>generic dungeons
Wow, this has to be the shittiest taste ive ever seen. You can't seriously tell me that 4's dungeons are less generic than NV's can you?
>>316481624
The level scaling system they tried this time around is pretty perferct tbqf familia.
>>316486618
Yes, they maked a remake of the 1947s movie.
>>316481624
It's not an RPG.
>>316485120
It's weird right? You recognize its shit, you're constantly presented with shit, but somehow, it's mildly enjoyable..
It's literally fallout 3 with some improvements and some worse implementations, but it kind of works
>>316488336
I just put about a 100 hours into NV right before it came out and there's nothing less generic about the dungeons in it.
>>316481624
That giving player a suit of power armor and a minigun in the very first mission is a terrible design choice.
>>316485120
I like the power amors but I don't like how they're limited in time and yet how you find them spread everywhere on the map
I really want a fusion core mod that let you wear a power armor forever
>>316483883
I don't see a single problem with it.
Also don't tell me to get my eyes checked, you aren't clever.
>>316484351
I have a journalist friend. We both cringed from those.
>>316488975
Before 4 came out*
>>316489036
~
help "fusion core" 0
player.additem X 999 where X is the hex code for fusion cores.
>>316481624
it's boring 6/10 game
>>316489017
It really isn't.
Any nude mods around?
>>316481624
a badly written poorly optimised empty sandbox shooter with decent gunplay
>>316482558
Because they're a different series.
>>316489289
It really is. It's like making you a leader of the faction from the very start, or letting you kill a deathclaw on level 1.
Oh wait...
>>316484712
RDR was one of my most enjoyable gaming experiences ever. I'm still immensely bummed they didn't port it.
RDR 2 WHEEEEN?
it's shit but it's still selling like hotcakes
>>316489308
I'm not sure if I'd go so far as to say decent, but it is better than the abysmal gunplay of 3/NV
>>316489036
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/342
Or you could add them with console commands
>>316481624
GOTY
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>>316481624
The game is a buggy clusterfuck.
>>316482992
Fallout 4 is not an RPG, it's a open world FPS with inventory management minigame and a pointless audio-clip listening simulator.
>>316489713
Witcher 3 is GOTY faggot.
>>316489598
Never, RDR development was hell for Rockstar.
>>316481624
Every fucking day, you see this shit with ANY game. "NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED"
Are you so mentally fucked that your life's sole purpose is to shit on games you do not even play? It's not like they are forcing you to buy it, nor is it even affecting your other games. Hell, the only people that should be preoccupied with this should be those who bought it and those who actually worked on it, blood, sweat and tears.
Grow the fuck up.
>>316490027
Is this copypasta?
>>316482175
Shipped or sold anon? Two VERY different things
>>316489953
But that suffering birthed one of the best games they've ever made, if not the best.
>>316490090
>12 million units were shipped to retailers to fulfill day one sales and pre-orders. That doesn't mean that's the actual sale number but...
>More are now being sent to keep up with demand, meaning at least a decent number were.
>That represents over $750 million worth of sales if it all ends up on the other side of the till.
>"Leading retailers" said the Pip-Boy edition was the fastest selling of all time, and that it sold out within hours of becoming available.
>Those same retailers said Fallout 4 had the "largest launch day sales" of the year, which hits the combo of sounding impressive but actually being a relatively small metric.
>>316490261
>he thinks there's anything better than SA
I know you cowboy fags only got a couple of games to pick from, but please.
>>316490390
M8....San Andreas was and is amazing. I'll concede that they're both masterpieces
Why isn't Bethesda letting people load data-files on start-up anymore, like with previous games? Are they knowingly making modding a pain in the ass?
>>316481624
Unlike Fallout 3, it's fun to explore things in this game because decent crafting system encourages exploration.
>>316490768
Wait, what? How are we supposed to load them then?
>>316490768
It's a prelude to paid mods, they're going to prohibit you from using the nexus and force you to use their website.
>>316483312
How was nvs map dreadful?
How did it lack atmosphere?
And a lot of the issues are because it had to use 3 as a base
It's an alright game, I have fun playing it, its not apocalyptically bad as /v/ contends, but its not mindblowing as professional "reviewers" make it out to be, its basically Fallout 3++.
>>316489086
This fucking game looks like it was made 6 years ago. How can you not see it?
For a game that is supposed to be about gunfights, they utterly failed. They love having tiny fastmoving enemies that run UNDER(!) your field of vision, almost as if they are clipping into your character model, making shooting them impossible, which means you have to just rely on peeking VATS shit on literally every enemy.
Or, they have some tiny raider on a building where you have a 5% chance to shoot them, meaning you just ignore them or waste bullets.
They have done everything they could to make fighting enemies be annoying.
>>316491839
That would be fine if they didn't introduce HP bloated enemies all over again. WOW, it's a legendary doge! You can shoot it in the head with your plasma rifle for a few minutes, only to see it restore all hitpoints when you kill it!And Survival mode is just frustration mode. Even humans take 10 bullets in the head to kill.