>Combat animations change between 1st and 3rd person
>3rd person is much faster when in power amor
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That's sped up, right? ...right?
is FO4 combat like skyrim? cause it kinda looks like it...
>that retarded animation after the deathclaw pins you down
I was expecting this kind of thing from Bethesda, but still.
>>316469906
>>3rd person is much faster when in power amor
Clearly the video says otherwise.
>>316469906
>>316470446
>gets you down on the ground
>slashes you once
>backs off
>roars
>lets you get back up unhindered
FEV brain damage?
>>316470446
>Expecting combat to be played in 3rd person.
>In a Fallout game.
>>316469906
Okay im never that guy, but that looks horrible. Is that really Fallout 4's combat?
>>316470890
Not sure if bait
>that fucking delay after the character gets up from being knocked down
Do they just not know how to make a video game feel good, ever? You just don't do that. You don't have the character stand there still for a second before you have him attack again.
The stun should end as soon as he hits his feet again.
Who /can't stop making settlements/ here? It's the best part of the game.
>>316471108
Why would it be? Third person plays like shit
Also, your gun automatically reloads whenever you use the number keys to swap weapons.
Seriously, test it out, I'm not joking.
>>316470921
Same combat as Skyrim so yes. Can't duel wield though
>>316469906
>hitmarkers
Why
No seriously, fucking WHY
>>316471182
I'm the opposite desu. Haven't felt the urge to properly set up a settlement and probably never will.
>>316471290
Fallout is isometric, not first or third person.
Damn already like 13 hours in and want to make another character
>>316469906
thats some 40k style shit i approve
>>316471357
It's worse. Now there is a horrible delay between click and swing of a weapon, along with a lurch and massive delay before another hit. There is no flow to melee at all.
This video shows exactly what's always been wrong with combat in Bethesda games. It feels so weightless, there's no sense of impact. It's like hitting a pillow with a banana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4EHjFkVw-s
The game has a lot of shit going on with the animations in general.
Even the loading times are tied to framerate. With the framerate unlocked, I measured about 15 seconds of loading time. With the framerate lock in place, the loading took almost 30 seconds.
And I it's pretty much impossible to play the game when the framerate is unlocked, because all the menus and lockpicking especially just happens too fast, the bobby pin breaks before you have time to react.
on PC the game speed is frame rate dependant
>>316471953
That always gets to me. That's why I just stick to guns, bows, or magic in their games. Everything else feels like shit.
Strangely, despite its praise, I felt like I was punching pillows in Bam A Ham Yum. Only the first one, but it didn't capture me because I just finished Sleeping Dogs at the time, and the combat felt so damn powerful in that game.
>>316469906
I seriously can't play the game as of now. I have all settings on low and shit resolution, and yet, when I went to Lexington, my fps dropped to fucking 15 and hovered around 20-25.
>>316471765
>Now there is a horrible delay between click and swing of a weapon
Skyrim has that too until you turn off vsync and break your game.
dear lord, those animations...
isn't this a hugely anticipated AAA game with a giant budget?
>>316472027
>game speed tied to framerate
that's some Quake 1 shit yo
>>316469906
>player shadows appear in 3rd person but not in first person
>have to wait for revolver spin animation when unholstering to finish before firing in first person
>3rd person doesn't have it and can shoot right taway
Great game Todd
>>316472027
Are they literally retarded?
Things like this are the little charms I expect from Bethesda games that make them feel truly unique, and if you're really a big baby about it I'm sure there will be a mod for it.
>>316471386
Because call of duty, thats why.
>>316471182
I built a bed in the middle of the road and wandered off, that's about as far as I've delved into that.
They are actually quite good because you never know if you can shoot through that hole in the wall or if there's an invisible wall that blocks all projectiles.
FO4's base building should have had stockable shelves, fridges and armouries etc like that underground bunker mod for NV
That was/is a great mod
>>316472595
>tfw
>>316471953
I've been telling people that for years. Melee combat in Skyrim/Fallout 3 feels like what combat in runescape classic looks like. They need to use all that jew gold they've amassed, develop a new engine and put gamebryo in a museum where it belongs.
>>316471317
So we Metal Gear now?
>>316471182
I've built a bed and some containers in the Dog Penis gas station that's my crafting base.
Beyond that the shitty Sanctuary Hills tutorial quest completely turned me off the whole settlement mechanic. I built some shit (which usually hoevers 2 feet over the ground) whenever Stiffs McBland gave me a quest to do so, but that's it.
>>316472845
Why do they need to do that when morons still buy these games anyway?
>>316469906
Wow
>>316471317
So it's exactly like 3 then.
>>316472670
Tfw you can snipe a rad-roach from miles away and all his bros home in on you and chase you, yet kill a bandit and his bro's look for you for 5 seconds before going back to normal patrols, or not even react to walking past a fallen comrade that i'd shot with a shotgun in an adjacent hallway.. they didn't even hear the shotgun or react to it.
This games mechanics are so broken it's a joke, the whole game is practically amateurish
>>316471953
>>316472089
>>316472845
>>316469906
I always knew the animations and impacts felt shit, but the thing I'm always in disbelief over is the way the game doesn't seem to allow you to change the outcome of the fight in the slightest.
I've been thinking I've been missing something, but in every bethesda game it's the same shit, just walk up to the opponent and start trading those blows. It's like it has zero business being a realtime game, at least when it comes to fighting melee enemies.
>>316469906
>deathclaw pins you down
>>316469906
I can understand there being an AP meter on foot because the HUD is not a real thing, but how do you justify an actual AP gauge in your goddamn suit
>>316469906
>that easy mode damage
Shit anon what are you doing
>>316472320
>>316472275
I understand the physics being tied to framerate and game clock, because that's very basic and common.
But the movement speed and combat animations as well, holy shit.
>>316473117
>tfw a Deathclaw will never mount you
The insane profits Bethesda make yet they won't pay to use or make a new engine.
Why use a new engine when Schmucks keep lapping up the same old shit, right Todd?
>>316473186
I've set the game on survival before even starting and never changed it again, I don't even have a single combat related perk.
>>316473660
That armor damage reduction from power armour is pretty silly then, you shouldn't be able to just facetank a deathclaw for a minute straight
>>316473186
I don't think so. I'm playing on very hard, I'm level 47 now and my assault rifle rips deathclaws apart in about 7 shots. Just like every beth game, it only gets easier and easier.
Granted this glowing deathclaw took a lot to kill though. But normal ones are a complete joke.
>>316473020
Who needs proper game mechanics when modders will just fix everything for you?
>>316473798
Deathclaws are a fucking joke in this game, Mirelurk hunters are much stronger in comparison.
Even Yao Guai are almost as strong.
Fuck molotovs.
>>316473296
new vegas has mods for that
>>316473991
pics or gtfo
>>316473798
>>316473897
An example, this guy was much stronger than any deathclaw I've encountered so far, he also dropped a leather shinguard that turns me invisible when crouching, fucking Skyrim magic enchantments in Fallout
>>316473892
>Who needs proper game mechanics when modders will just fix everything for you?
We need more guys who think like you working for us at Bethesda, you're hired!
>doing dangerous minds
>exit memories
>quest glitches can't complete
bravo todd
>>316474104
That's supposed to be a legendary monster? What a joke
>>316473897
>THE SAME FUCKING ONEHANDED LIMP ARM ANIMATION FROM '08
>>316473047
All they had to do was steal Dark Messiah's melee combat system for Skyrim. Especially when every quest revolves around fighting, even the fucking Bards guild.
Would have made the game atleast acceptable.
Weren't Arcane Studios even involved in Skyrim's development?
>>316474104
>legendary high tier
That's why. Deathclaws can spawn the same way (alpha, glowing, etc, plus legendary)
The problem is deathsclaws are much too rare, compared to how easy they are.
>>316469906
It was so since oblivion, you retard.
>>316474278
Razorclaw are like Mirelurk mid tiers though, there are 2 tiers above them, plus I was lvl 15 or something and there is no skull
>>316474278
I once watched an alpha and a regular deathclaw brawl it against a group of raiders, including a legendary one
The Alpha twohit the legendary
>>316469906FOR THE EMPEROR
>>316469906
>Melee build
Why do people do this? The combat is absolutely shite.
>>316473892
>proper game mechanics
If they atleast delivered a solid base game that modders could build upon it would be salvagable.
The core mechanics are so broken that 20gb of mods couldn't fix it though.
>>316472670
>that's a fairly big hole, I'll throw a molotov through it and it'll kill all of them
never doing that mistake again
>>316474206
>Access Nora
>>316474521
>not quicksaving every few seconds
>>316474206
>public_use
>>316474258
This so much. Dark Messiah's Combat was so fucking good, and it's not like there's any reason for the combat to look and feel like glorified runescape, there are MMOS out today that have better realtime combat than Skyrim, which is completely offline.
>curie just walks infront of me and sits on nothing
BASED TODD
>>316474741
training her legs
>>316473296
>tfw a large alpha male Deathclaw will never claim you as its bitch
>It'll never pin you down on the dirt out in the open for any passerby to see
>It'll never slash open the back of your pants, leaving cuts on your skin before ramming it's extremely large cock deep inside you
>You'll never feel the feeling as it pumps load after load of its hot cum inside you
Why even go on?
>>316474741
>i'm gonna destroy you and your friends here
who talks like this
>>316474741
The Handy maneuvering jet is still equipped in her butt slot.
>>316469906
>playing on normal
LOL git gud faggot true gamers play on survival
>>316474741
why cant you upgrade curies boobs and ass at workbench
>>316472425
Get out Todd
>>316474875
brb reinstalling new vegas with mods
>>316474913
Todds bullies in high school
>>316474913
cartoon villains
>>316470446
>>316470643
It's almost the same animation/sound as Skyrim's Werewolf.
As a matter of fact, most sounds like footsteps are directly ripped from Skyrim.
>>316472027
main game loop/framerate issues are like the earliest chapters in every "make ur own game loop" tutorial
bethesda are completely incompetent amateurs and yet somehow they've managed to bullshit their way this far. it's unbelievable.
>>316471953
WHERE IS THE HITSTOP BETHESDA
>>316473991
Does it? I've only seen two lewd mods that aren't shitty costumes - Humping the Mojave, and Sexual Innuendo. And Mojave is just an expansion for the latter.
>>316475291
instead of being pissed off, realize we are about to get a mod like the fallout 3/NV combined mod between the worlds of fallout 4 and Skyrim.
Why can't I romance a Deathclaw?
>>316474206
>PRESSURE RELEASE
>STAND CLEAR
>>316474206
>expansion tank
Didn't know Dobson had worked on this game.
>>316471178
RPGs
Stuns
>>316475720
Truce?
>>316471178
>Waah waah waah I should never have consequences for fucking up and getting grabbed by the toughest enemy in the game
Fuck off m8, maybe you should play FF with ATB turned off or something, that might be more your speed.
>>316472027
This is what I don't get.
I've been playing at 80-120FPS the entire time, I haven't had these issues at all.
G-SYNC Master Race I guess.
>>316475720
eyy fuccboi
>>316476043
Or you're having the issue the entire time and are playing the game faster than it should be
>>316471386
Because the animations are so shitty that you may not realize that you hit anything without them.
>>316476185
this
The jetpack is so fucking useful.And fun.
>>316476123
It fluctuates though.
People are talking about all the animations being tied to framerate. When I'm near the busier parts of the city and drop lower, literally no difference.
Lockpicking feels exactly the same as previous Gamebryo versions. I've put at least a couple hundred hours in each one.
>>316472027
Sweet merciful god.
>>316475291
Skyrim's werewolf stuff was already mostly Deathclaw animations from 3.
