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Why do people hate this so much again?
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>>316467771
Why WOULDN'T they hate it?
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>>316467981
cos it's great
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>>316467771
>>>/tv/
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>>316467771
Because it has almost nothing to do with FFVII and is a bunch of crawling in my skin edgy bullshit.

Or at least, I would assume that was their reasoning. I thought it was neat because it was basically just one giant fight scene stitched together with an excuse plot
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they shrank Tifa's boobs
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>>316467981
Nothing to hate.
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It destroyed the character perceptions of all FF7 characters for the mainstream media, totally ruining Cloud and Square took this path with all their subsequent compilation releases, I hope they make sarcastic, son of a bitch Cloud in VII Remake instead of edgy emo.
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>>316469584
yep
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Because it's a garbage movie that gets praised by faggots like you because FF7 is babby's first jrpg.
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>>316467771
>again
People are hating it again??
I guess if they hated it the first time around they would hate it again
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>>316469252
This, it's pretty much how I wanted to translate an FF game into a movie.

I'd still prefer it to feature more (and differentiable) magic spells & summons. Definitely would like a classic FF movie, say FF6 & under.
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>>316469584
it was quite the drop
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>>316471164
>realism
Who asked for that?
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It's a poorly executed movie from an overrated game. At least the hype made crisis core a thing, so it wasnt all shit.
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>>316467771
because it's bad
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>>316467771
i liked it
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>>316467771
It is just a fan wankfest.
By itself it is a bad movie.
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>>316472839
loser
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>>316467771
Because they're dumb
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>>316474612
you mean the movie is dumb
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>>316474634
The movie's fine
Amazing songs, great fights, cool swords it was great
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>>316474723
14 year old detected.
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>>316474763
Are you saying it's not true?
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>>316467771
I don't. It was a fun fan-service flick with a ridiculously high budget. It was nice to see my old favorite game get an over-the-top movie sequel.

>>316470725
The events of the game dictate that he is sarcastic douche Cloud, since that's an integral part of his character arc, and that attitude wasn't absent in Advent Children anyway; I don't know why so many people complained about him not being an jerk anymore. Cloud wasn't the problem with that movie; everyone else was.
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>>316474797
yes
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>>316474843
You're dumb
>>316474802
What was the budget anyway?
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>>316467771
Mostly because westerners have a weird idea of what Cloud's personality is like, mostly, and they think the movie "ruined" Cloud's character. The movie was pretty well-recieved in Japan, where there wasn't a goofy localization. It probably didn't help that the Japanese audio had Cloud sounding like a big, standoffish grumplord trying to hide his feelings of guilt through his usual "Not my problem" attitude, while the english dub made him sound a lot more melancholy and emotional than Nomura intended.

That said, the movie itself is sub-par from a plot standpoint, and needs the tie-in novels to make sense. It's strengths lie in it's cinematography, character design, and unique style of battle choreography (which you're enjoyment of will depend entirely on how much you like anime fights.)
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>>316471164
What a waste.
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>>316475297
I love anime fights
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>>316471164
But the second one isn't even canon.
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>>316475297
>>316475297
>It probably didn't help that the Japanese audio had Cloud sounding like a big, standoffish grumplord trying to hide his feelings of guilt through his usual "Not my problem" attitude, while the english dub made him sound a lot more melancholy and emotional than Nomura intended.
I think this had a lot to do with it.

For example, when Cloud loses to Kadaj and his gang, he says "See? I knew I'd be no help..." whereas the tone of the line in Japanese is more along the lines of something like "Damn it, I knew this wouldn't end well..."
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>>316475939
because that matters
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>>316475939
The second one was made by the Spirits Within guys. Nomura didn't have anything to do with the cutscenes.
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>>316475991
Considering you retards keep posting that idiotic picture as your "proof" over and over, yes it does.
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>>316476089
The FMV Tifa has bigger tits than the Advent Tifa. This isn't really up for debate, and that's what it's demonstrating.
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>>316476134
FMV Tifa is also hilariously off-model.
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>>316476170
I don't think you know what that term means.
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>>316476089
why "proof"?
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>>316476134
FMV Tifa has bigger tits than FFVII Artwork Tifa, FFVII overworld Tifa, and FFVII battle Tifa. I'd say it shouldn't be counted considering it's the ONLY piece of media with that and is proven wrong by ITS OWN GAME multiple times.
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>>316476431
it's the one people remember
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>>316476497
That's their fault, not Nomura's.
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>>316467771
I don't know, because of the shitty dialogue I couldn't figure out what the fuck the movie was about so I can't really judge it
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>>316476497
People remember "people become Pokemon trainers at their 10th year of life" that the anime created and that "Mario breaks blocks with his head", but it doesn't mean it's the correct thing
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>>316476702
even that is a lot bigger than AC proportionally
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>>316467771
>Cloud's face didn't look like that in the actual movie.

Still pisses me off to this day.
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2 hours of irrelevant fanservice. They only did it for this reason, and for the $$$ they knew they would get flogging merchandise and figurines of the characters in their new outfits
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>>316476745
They're about the same size, they just shrunk her head to more human standards.
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I don't dislike the movie but it felt very rushed, introducing a lot of new characters really quickly, with little to no explanation for them. Heck, the badguy trios names weren't even revealed for a good chunk of the movie.

Also Rufus being alive and the whole trying to make the Turks likeable (hello, they're remorseless mass murderers) was dumb as hell.

Granted I've only seen the movie once and it was the dvd version. Don't know if/how the bluray expanded on and cleared things up.
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>>316476947
they changed all her proportions to make her head and tits smaller and her body bigger
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>>316477034
>good chunk of the movie
Nice to know you didn't watch it
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>>316471164
>tits used to be bigger than her head
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>>316477060
Okay.

I mean, you can keep saying it; doesn't mean you're right.
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>>316477182
Um. The runtime is 101 minutes. A good chunk of time would be 10+ minutes. I sure don't remember hearing their names in their first appearance. But again, I only saw the movie once and that was years ago, so I could be misremembering.
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>>316477317
Compare the propotions, it's what happened
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>>316477034
>Don't know if/how the bluray expanded on and cleared things up.
Not for the points you mentioned, but it DID help the movie a lot. The Extended Version is like a whole other movie compared to the DVD Version, give it a try.

>trying to make the Turks likeable
They were already pretty "likeable" in VII. The only thing I´ll give you is Reno. He´s just Axel from KH now, which sucks.

Rufus being alive is actually explained in On the Way to a Smile, and it is pretty reasonable.
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>>316467771
Cloud went full sulking whiner. Compared to popular belief, Cloud is only really cool when he isn't cutting his wrists with his fucking buster sword.
The Three Stooges that only exist to keep Seph out of 2/3 of the movie.
and >>316469584
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>>316469584
unforgivable
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>>316467771

The writing is pretty awful until about 2/3rd's of the way through when it gets good out of nowhere. I was super-disappointed as a youngin.
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I have it on Blu ray
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>>316477317
>>316476947
she looks bigger than the hyped up FMV version to me
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>>316477657
>The Extended Version is like a whole other movie compared to the DVD Version, give it a try.
All right, I'll toss it on my christmas list and see if anyone bites. If not I'll grab it for myself. Does the extended version at least explain Denzel beyond "token relateable kid"? Also do the visuals hold up?

>They were already pretty "likeable" in VII.
Maybe Elena, maybe. But Reno pushed the button. Tseng was a stalker and laughed it up as the pillar was crumbling and Rude just silently went along with their shit so fuck him.

>Rufus being alive is actually explained in On the Way to a Smile, and it is pretty reasonable.
Haven't read/seen that before. Guess I'll look up a summary.
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>>316478131
>blind
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>>316477514
It's 120 minutes and they say their names while talking to each other in the beginning while they're on their bikes in the desert
>Don't cry Loz
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>>316478461
>Does the extended version at least explain Denzel beyond "token relateable kid"?
Kind of in the movie, but it also comes with an anime of the Denzel Part of On a Way to a Smile, which explains his background.
And the visuals do hold up, a lot of touch ups and general changes were made.

The Turks were just doing their jobs, one could say. And they do that in Advent Children, too. They are not exactly playing nice in the movie either, they first try to use Cloud for their plans and all, hiding Jenovas Head and everything.

>Guess I'll look up a summary
I´d recommend that, it also explains the Turks behavior a bit better.
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I liked it.

Cloud's new sword sword was cool as fuck
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>>316467771
Well pretty much reducing the character development back to square one.

The complete edition does fix a few things.
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>>316467771
Because they are dumbasses.

I pity those that didn't watch the OVA that was released to link FF7 to AC though. Just like I pity those that watched the original AC movie.
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>>316479024
>reducing the breast development
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>>316478461
Visuals are pretty good, the texture work however was outdated when it came out
I mean comparing the character models from Advent Children to the character models from the FFXIII FMVs is really eye-opening
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>>316467771
Style over substance.
Cool fanservice but everything else is boring as shit.
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>>316467771
because they expect too much on the plot, I knew it was a fanservice animation from the beginning and just watch it for what it is
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>>316478131
You must be joking.
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>>316479107
>Style over substance.
>Cool fanservice but everything else is boring as shit.
Isn't that the best anyone can expect from such a thing? A full fleshed story and characters in 2 hours or less isn't really doable. It works nicely as an epilogue to FF7.

And then Dirge of Cerberus happens.

I thought it was an okay game. Shame we never got the other half of the storyline which was cut from the western release.
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>>316467771
Final Fantasy VII was fine without the Compilation bullshit.
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>>316479578
>Final Fantasy VII was fine without the Compilation bullshit.
Counter Point: Final Fantasy VII is still fine even with the Compilation bullshit.
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>>316479747
Meme point: Kill yourself my man
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>>316479460
I loved Dirge of Cerberus but I can see why people are pissed
>hey let's do a Vincent game
>remember all the cool stunts and crazy jumps he did in AC? Tell the Visual Works guys to do them for the cutscenes
>no you can't do that in gameplay
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>>316469252
>bunch of crawling in my skin edgy bullshit.
could you fucking stop? jesus fucking christ almighty shut the FUCK up.
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>>316480731
>being this much of a brainwashed Christian
holy keks
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>>316481219
what the fuck nigga
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>>316478910

dont get me wrong, I was really into his sword as well but what was the point of 5,6? It was already a buster replica after you added the first 3 pieces.
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>>316481278
Sheeet nigga calm down
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>>316481593
No, it wasn't. It was smaller tan the buster
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>>316481736
the pieces 5,6 dont change that at all. They just add flare to teh sides of the sword that werent there before. Whats the use in those?
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>>316481836
I don't give a shit if it changes or not, its not a replica because its smaller, it was only a replica in the last segment of the image.

I don't give a shit if it added anything to the sword itself or not, all I care is size.
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>>316481991

such anger. I'm not even sure you understand what replica mean. It doesn't have to be 1:1 to be a replica, hence why you can buy scaled replicas. Would the word homage calm you down?
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I like clouds sword in it.
That's about it
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>>316467771
I don't hate the movie. Loved the fights and yeah Cloud was upset for most of the movie but at least they gave a reason for it. Once he got rid of that Geostigma he started slapping shit left and right and his better mood stuck after that.
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>>316471164
Much better desu
Cows are for milking, not for loving.
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>>316467771
Little dumbfuck kid character, not enough of the old crew, not enough summons. Not enough fights against cool boosess.

Should replace half of the fights with sephiroths clones with some of the fights from that vincent game.

Would have been a hell of a lot better.
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>>316484223
get out
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