>yfw smash once again becomes just a marketing tool for promotin other third party games in the other consoles
just like snake with mgs4
ryu with SF5
and now cloud with FF7 remake
>>316438787
>DQ11 coming to NX
>FF7R is "first on PS4"
>Literally Rayman Legends betrayalton tier
can wait for 2016 E3.
>>316438787
>mfw I don't care about smash but I might get it for 3ds just because my homie made it in.
>>316438787
it goes from "psssh nothin personnel kid" to "let's mosey"
advent children didn't happen
>>316438935
>>DQ11 coming to NX
Under consideration. As a native Japanese speaker watching the stream, don't even try to claim they "accidentally revealed it" and had to back track.
b-but cloud has always been more of a Playstation icon to me.
This makes me sick, I might not even eat the hotpockets I have cooking in the oven over this.
>>316438787
Nintendo and Sony love each other. It's faggots on /v/ who don't seem to get this.
After all, we have Nintendo to thank for the Playstation even existing.
> Snake and cloud gets into smash
>Sony didn't put them in All-Stars
Good they get a better game
>>316438787
>No Cloud Moseys on In!
Fucking one job, Nintendo.
>>316438787
>implying this is a problem
This isnt even close to the first time cloud has been in nintendo exclusive games
>>316438787
>implying i'm not gonna buy the ff7 remake
>implying i don't own sm4sh already
>implying i'm not hyped for both
You'd be amazed at how many of Sony's old guard also own Nintendo shit.
>>316439716
>ps all stars barely got lightning
>smash got cloud instead
Fucking hilarious desu senpai
>>316438787
>Implying Remake and SFV aren't coming to NX
>Implying Heihachi or Kazuma isn't next because of Pokken
>>316439863
>Sony allstars gets characters who have nothing to do with Playstation
>its rightfully bad
>Nintendo gets characters who have nothing to do with Nintendo
>its "good"
Embarrassing.
>>316440203
Cuz Smash doesn't suck complete shit.
>>316440045
Yeah, he had a cameo in KH Chain of Memeroeis!
And he's playable in Theatrythm and Explorers - you know, where you can play as everyone in in FF!
Who cares if he's never starred in any of them! Or been an actual character! Who cares that his stage, Midgard, HAS never appeared in a Nintendo game!
>>316440045
Yeah, it was cool how they showed all those shitty spinoffs as their source of inspiration, rather than a game that has never been on a Nintendo console.....
>>316440203
>>316440348
Also PSATBR or whatever the fuck dropped the ball hard when they could have included characters like Cloud or fucking Dart from Legend of Dragoon but didn't, there was literally no reason not to and they would have drawn in a bunch more players.
>>316440156
>implying i own a console
>implying in loyal to sony
>implying im a corporate slave
>>316440156
Way to betray your nation, fuckwad. You're not a Sonybro, fuck off.
dont forget shantae with half genie hero
>>316440203
Can you be any madder ?
Smash has way more original characters than all stars does the 3rd party characters in smash are a treat while in all stars they were necessity because Sony makes next to nothing Iconic other than generic shaved head white men ..plus characters dont make a good game anyway all stars suck form that stand point as well
>>316440203
Nevermind the other 50 fucking nintendo characters in the roster right?
>>316440156
This. Vice versa too.
>>316440203
Because Smash does industry icons instead of the hottest trendiest stuff like Isaac Clarke or Donte.
>>316438787
I'm just happy it wasn't Crystal
>>316440656
>Smash does industry icons instead of the hottest trendiest
half of smash's cast is decided by what game is coming out soon.
>>316440656
Yeah, that's why Roy and Wooly World appeared in Smash before their games. Smash isn't about advertising guys.
Smash is and always will be better than the absolute dogshit of PSABR, but it doesn't excuse this shit.
>>316440156
This.
Why divided when we can game united?
Why would Nintendo do this to themselves? It's kinda awkward and embarrassing. FF7 isn't on any of their platforms, no recent FF games made it to Wii U and who even knows if the FF7 remake will make it to NX. If it doesn't, this is a blunder of ultimate scale for Nintendo.
I hope they know what they're doing.
>>316440656
>industry icons
>doesn't matter if it's Nintendo or not
Ah, so that's why they included a Playstation character.
Steve from Minecraft next?
Goddamn I'm rustled at this news
It's the exact same problem that I've been having with FE reps, both series have so many varied fighter types, why go for another guy with a sword. It wouldn't even be so bad if they tried to do something like have him use materia, but they gotta throw in as much recognizable shit for the fanboys to eat up
>>316438787
FF 7 Remake is pretty much confirmed to come to NX
>>316440828
PSABR wasn't THAT bad...I bought it on day 1, had fun with 3 other friends one time and played sporadically online for like 4 months, it was k
>>316440869
>FF7 remake will make it to NX.
You said it there yourself
>>316440869
>Why would Nintendo do this to themselves?
I dunno, why would a whore let some fat grease ball bust a nut on her face?
oh right, money.
>>316440945
Just like how SFV is confirmed for Wii U
And MGS4 was confirmed for Wii
oh wait.............
>>316440869
Making mad dosh is what they're doing. It's the same with Snake for Brawl, the last time he was on a nintendo thing back then was fucking Ghost Babel
>>316440940
>mfw Omnislash is just Ike's FS repainted
>>316440676
Its gonna happen faggot.
Sakurai likes anime swordmen and waifus, go back to work, lets you anger your china overlords.
Wolf a shit.
>>316440828
>Yeah, that's why Roy and Wooly World appeared in Smash before their games.
They are rooted on well established franchises, so why not.
>>316441073
Omnislash came first.
>>316438787
>nintendo getting cuc.ked by their own game
JUST
>still no Golden Sun rep
>character from a Sony/PC game
the fuck, Nintendo?
>>316441037
SFV had exclusvitiy bought by Sony to be exclusive for their console.
As was MGS4
Sony literally owns the rights to those on their consoles.
FF7 Remake is already multiplatform.
SE didn't give Sony rights to the FF7 remake, only a timed deal.
Also MGS and SF has been on Nintendo consoles historically. FF 7 hasn't...yet
>>316441123
So as long as advertisements are rooted in well established franchises it's okay? So Big Daddy and Isaac Deadspace are good additions to PSABR in your mind.
>>316438787
Who even owns a Wii U? You don't need any promotional material to sell FF7 it sells itself
>>316441283
SFV only exists because Sony is paying for it's development. It's different form an exclusivity buyout like MGS4. It's more like Bayo 2.
>>316441276
Golden Sun is fucking dead, son. Sorry to tell you, I loved the first game and The Lost Age, but Dark Dawn ruined any chance for the series to continue.
>>316440869
>If it doesn't, this is a blunder of ultimate scale for Nintendo.
Not really. You probably don't remember, but back when gaming magazines were a thing, a lot of them would usually host these versus tournaments on a yearly basis.
And pretty much every year, it always came down to Link vs. Cloud, without fail. Shit, even for Brawl mods, Cloud's like, right behind Shadow in most downloaded IIRC.
Really for a lot of us, this news is not only pretty much the wetdream of our 10 year old selves finally happening, but also something that's kind of been a long time coming.
To be honest, /v/'s incredibly hostile reaction is pretty surprising. Kind of makes me wonder what would've been the reaction if Snake had been announced (as a newcomer rather than a Brawl vet) now rather than in 2006.
>>316440940
>for some twist of destiny, Sakki becomes playable instead of AT
>hurr anime fuccboi swordsman literally who
>>316441421
This
Console war faggotry is killing the board
>>316441379
>SFV only exists because Sony is paying for it's development.
I don't think that's accurate, I was in the beta for the PC version and no Sony publishing ever came up. It's not exclusive to Sony, just their console.
>>316441421
/v/ is full of underage shitters now so obviously they don't understand. The first like hour or two after his announcement was full of people being surprised and excited as fuck and now it's all shitposters.
Do people keep forgetting that the FF7 remake isn't PS4 exclusive?
It's probably coming to NX.
>>316441325
>This is what sony fanboys actually believe
just you wait m8 come next year your losing another "exclusive"
>>316440940
You have no idea how much I've wanted a general or assasin to be in smash
>>316441325
aah but heres the funny part.
nobody own a wii U, because must of the smash fans live in deviantART filling the internet with their shitti fanart of newcomers
its all free marketing strategy
>>316440940
that's an issue with FE reps
Cloud is undoubtedly the icon of FF so there's really no one else they could use other than Lightning.
>>316438787
This is great because I don't have a WiiU™ but now I am going to buy a WiiU™ and Super Smash Bros™ for the WiiU™ because I love Cloud™ from Final Fantasy VII™. Thanks Nintendo™!
>>316441421
I agree, I was honestly pleasantly surprised and kind of excited, no idea where the vitriol is coming from. I love Nintendo and Sony both, FF7 was an excellent game and I am fond of it.
>>316441751
Gotta start that NX promotion of course, or did you think FF7 was gonna be a PS4 exclusive :^)
>>316440203
Where were you when Nintendo this gen became what Sony was last gen?
>Square senpai, can you please give us a character for Smash?
>Sure thing Nintendo, you can use Cloud. He'd be a great way to promote the new Final Fantasy VII remake for PS4!
>b-but senpai, isn't Cloud more of a Playstation character?
>Dammit Nintendo, do you want us to slap you again?
>s-sorry senpai!
If there wasn't a Heihachi costume I would say he's next.
>>316441741
I'm not denying that Cloud is the most recognizable face in FF, I'm just mad that he's Swordguy #13. In his game cloud has access to a ton of different magic, so why not take advantage of that? They could've even been lazy, since most of Robin's magic can be retooled easily into materia.
Ratchet and Clank in Smash when?
>>316442292
>He thinks Cloud is a Sony character
>Sonybronies mad because they didn't got Cloud "Let's Mosey" Strife in their Smash clone
Why can't you all enjoy games?
>>316442143
i dunno man
ganondorf is still a slower Captain Falcon.
no axe or lance FE rep even though Ephraim (heck even Lyn would be nice even if she's also sword) were DLC characters in Awakening.
Cloud got in before goddamn Ridley
and I wish amiibos, our smash trophy finally here, actually had the quality the prototypes had even if we had to pay $10 more.
life sucks
>>316442143
>In his game cloud has access to a ton of different magic, so why not take advantage of that?
Because sadly FFVII was literally the only time Cloud was ever a full blown Magic Knight. Dissidia only briefly revisited this but even then he was pretty much a Fighter with a slight magic edge. The summons have been retooled to stage hazards in Sm4sh.
It's either "swordclone" shitposting, or "out-of-character" shitposting.
Pick your poison, m8.
>>316442070
It was more like
>hey can we have a character in smash square
>Sure how about lightning?
>nah we need someone more popular like Cloud
>Why not him then? I mean, we can use it to promote explorers too
![final-fantasy-vii-remake-ps4-exclusive[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/x4oE5T4.jpg "final-fantasy-vii-remake-ps4-exclusive[1].jpg")
>>316438787
Literally happening lads
NX port confirmed
>tfw have smash and getting dissidia, ff explorers, and ff7 remake
Cloud's finally becoming the Lightning of Final Fantasy like he deserves
>>316438787
So you mean Nintendo and their fans are... c-cu.cks?
>>316443274
>c-cu.cks?
How? Isn't it more Sony fans getting keked because a popular character that people identify with Sony got put in a high-profile Nintendo game?
>>316443456
I don't know who's keking who at this point.
Nintendo are keks because they're celebrating that a character they don't have is getting a new game that they can't profit from because it's in another console, so it's like letting the entire world know that they enjoy seeing their woman getting blacked.
But at the same time, Sony are getting keked because their character was stolen from their grasp and is now being abused and they get no profit out of it either; so it's like having your woman be blacked and being unable to do anything about it.
If the FFVII remake actually gets released in the U or NX then Sony will forever be known as the Sonykeks, for sure.
/v/, you're masters of keking, please enlighten me, who's the kek here?
>>316443219
Literally my first thought
>>316443265
Cloud's finally becoming thewhoreof Final Fantasy like he deserves
>>316441283
Sony didn't buy MGS4's exclusitivity, it lierally could not be on Xbox 360.
Also it was built specifically for the cell which is a fucking mess to dev for so it would take too much work to port it over to PC.
>>316440869
This is to get sonyponies on board for their console.
>>316439369
Why are there screws in his shoulder armor and glove? What is the point of only one piece of armor on your shoulder anyways? Why are JRPG designs so dumb?
>Nintendo runs a poll for new smash characters that accepts third party characters
>/v/tards are shocked when babby's first RPG protagonist gets in
>>316444974
The screws on the shoulder armor are there to hold that extra plate of metal onto the original armor piece from back when it was a SOLDIER uniform.
Fuck knows about the glove though. Maybe some makeshift armor he bought from a junkyard in the slums when he first got to Midgar?
I don't know what's funnier, the fact that a rep from FF7, without a doubt THE game that solidified the PlayStation and killed the N64, is showing up in Nintendo's biggest seller, or the fact that this is going to be only game Cloud will be in that runs at 60FPS.
>Advent Children alt
>Ryu doesn't even get an alt with Ken or Akuma colors
>>316445819
Because they are his SF2 HD alts
>>316438787
>Shantae Half Genie hero is coming to wii u next year
>>316445260
They didn't say Cloud was a poll winner.
Special Show in December will likely cover ballot winners.
This is all because SE has a positive relationship with Nintendo right now (DQ games selling well on the 3DS Bravely Default on 3DS proves to be a successful IP in the West, Theatrythm Final Fantasy popular enough to warrant a sequel and Dragon Quest version on 3DS).
They're also among the Japanese devs looking into NX alongside Spike Chunsoft and Capcom.
>>316438787
Remember when the reason of smash was to please fans with obscure characters in a giant Nintendo party?
Thank god I didn't buy this shit console and games.
>>316445362
>killed the N64
FF7 didn't kill the N64. Ocarina came out a year later in '98. The only real damage FF7 did to the N64 was siphon away all the good JRPGs.
They were both fine systems that performed well, m8.
>is showing up in Nintendo's biggest seller
Which let's be honest, we've wanted since we were 10.
>or the fact that this is going to be only game Cloud will be in that runs at 60FPS.
God willing if PC gets the remake we have a chance. Although I guess you could count the port of FF7. Maybe even emulation of KH/Dissidia and shit if you're really willing to stretch it. Not sure what FPS GBA Chain of Memories runs at.
>>316446270
>Remember when the reason of smash was to please fans with obscure characters in a giant Nintendo party?
Never?
>>316440676
>Krystal not in Star Fox Zero
>Krystal not in Sm4sh
Thank you based Miyasamurai.
>>316446270
In the first Smash, the only characters that could ARGUABLY be obscure were Captain Falcon and Ness.
So really, what you said never really applied, outside of Marth&Roy in Melee, and prolly G&W by virtue of being a fossil.
>>316446270
Yeah, Wii Fit Trainer and Duck Hunt are totally not out of left field.
lol the irony. When ff7 was originally supposed to be on n64 and square shit on them.
Two companies profit, the fans profit. Why WOULDN'T they do this?
Or are you referring to your favorite not making it in?
>>316438787
It's a win-win situation.
>>316446651
>captain falcon
>main character of a SNES launch title
>he also had an n64 game
>obscure
>>316446651
>outside of Marth&Roy in Melee
Only for the West.
Up until Shadow Dragon, FE was hot shit in Nipland.
>>316438935
>can wait for 2016 E3.
ff7re wont even be out by 2018, no way they will talkbout the deal
>>316447180
Roy's game wasn't even out in Japan when Melee launched
>>316446214
Ringabel Crosses through Dimensions!
Crono Embarks on Time!
>>316447139
That's why I said "arguably", ya dingus.
>>316438787
Yes, and?
I'm sure people will buy Smash just for Cloud as well.
I don't get why you faggots think sonyggers are mad when I'd be laughing my ass off cloud got the spot rather than any of your fucking wet dream ridleys, shovel knights, or wolves
I expected Nintendrones to be btfo'd
>All these buttmad jealous Sonyggers jealous that Nintendo got Cloud for their superior Smash game while their shitty Smash clone got shit
>Cloud dlc will make Nintendo millions of dollars
Suck it Sonyponies
>>316446886
Wait, people still believe that's a FF7 demo for N64? Oh man that's hilarious.
That wasn't running on an N64, it was a PC tech demo, that never had any connection to FF7.
I was under the assumption the no one in their right mind would vote for any FF character past 7 under the mindset that they would just ignore those votes
>>316447670
>Ringabel Crosses through Dimensions!
I'd actually be more than ok with this, especially since it'd confirm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl363Wh4ghU as part of the soundtrack
>a legendary character is going to be in a fun and popular game
>Sonyggers find a way to turn this into a bad thing
I'm so glad I have video games to play and I don't need to come on the internet and make excuses like this.
>>316448074
>for their superior Smash
>Tr4sh
>superior
I would agree it we at least were talking about Brawl or below.
>>316447601
Pretty much. That's how hot FE was.
Roy however, was pure advertising. Sakurai was originally going to put in Leif (by his own admission, Thracia is his favorite FE).
Marth was going to be in Smash 64 but Sakurai thought the west wouldn't like him.
>>316448269
It's funny because it's the people who are complaining about the sonyggers that are shitposting
>>316448389
>doesn't like Smash 4
>likes Brawl
Every single Brawl fan claims this is their opinion and you are all in denial. Literally every single Smash game other than Brawl is good.
>>316448421
We still haven't gotten a game with Roy in it that wasn't a cameo
(At least there was a Shadow Dragon remake)
>>316448519
Right, no Sony fans are shitposting here, clearly. When it's a Sony fan shitposting, that's just a falseflag, right? But when it's a Nintendo fan shitposting, that's a totally legitimate and 100% real shitpost.
>>316444974
Usually the armored side is more prominent in terms of stance
If they swing at him and his left shoulder is further than the right, than the armored part works, yeah?
Good for 1v1 shit but it's still ridiculous, don't worry
>>31644807
what lol? this is gonna only get people hype for ff7 remake and buy a ps4! thanks nintendo for promoting sony
>>316448519
>the people who are complaining about the sonyggers that are shitposting
>No more Sonygger shitposting
>No reason for people to complain anymore
>This site actually becomes good with no Sonypony shitposting going on
If only
>>316439863
Sony wanted Cloud in, Squenix said "No way"
Everyone knows Squenix wants Nintendo's long hard handheld dick in their ass.
In fact, that's how Crystal Chronicles was born.
Nintendo was still sour over Square leaving them, so they wouldn't let them develop any handhelds games on the GBA unless they also made a Gamecube game.
>>316438787
More like this means the remake is coming over to NX, and that NX might be a competent system for a fucking change.
>>316439670
Why?
>>316448248
>Love's Vagrant in Smash
>Godspeed Strike final smash
I WANT IT
>>316450857
No one will fucking care about the NX, mark my words. It will be on par with current gen, if not a little less, and most third parties will still stay away like always.
>>316444974
Why are you so autistic to question every fucking thing and think it has to work for some stupid reason?
>>316446598
Truley, all is right in the world
Why are people thinking that ff7 remake will ever come to wiiU? WiiU is very underpowered to run squarepenixs' new engines.. most likely wiiU gets the steam version of ff7.
>>316440470
>Smash logo appears
>OHSHITOHSHITOHSHIT
>x pops on screen for an instant
>final fantasy logo starts to pan out
>wut, a ff character? but w-
>logo pans out, it's ff7
>WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>316440915
>they included a Playstation
cloud been in Nintendo exclusive games before
and Given FF VII HD is multiplat. is not Longer a PS character
>>316440367
fuck off
Question: As someone who hasn't played any of the games, should I respect the series and start from the very first title, or is it okay for me to just go ahead and play VII? Just want to familiarize myself with the story and characters (since it doesn't seem like people are going to stop talking about this game any time soon) and with his addition in Sm4sh, now seems like a good time.
>>316441706
Wh... What the heck's this?
>>316458592
Pick any title you want. There's no real connection between Final Fantasies.
>>316441404
ROB/Duck Hunt/Game and Watch AREN'T dead for you, son?
>>316458592
Final Fantasy games are all self-contained
>>316458592
Just pick any one you want, you can jump straight into VII if you want. None of them are connected aside from direct sequels/prequels i.e FFX-2, FFXIII-2, Crisis Core, all of which are absolutely dreadful and not worth your time anyway.
Nah.
Remake will also be ported on the NX, calling it.
The teaser clearly said FIRST ON PLAYSTATION, SE made it multiplat day one.
>Sonygaf on suicide watch
