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How did we go from this...
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...to this?

What the fuck, Bethesda?
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The pipe weapons have killed my enjoyment of this game. Literally all there is and ammo for everything else is too scarce to use the few that aren't. Just why? What sense do they make? They didn't exist in any other game in the series, not even the one that this is almost a direct copy and paste of.
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>>316399794
Sounds like somebody didnt get the Scrounger perk.

Use what the game offers you. I bet you dont even use chems even when you're having trouble.
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>>316400248
>mfw addicted to chems
Where do I remove this shit
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>>316399263
I like it. It fits the aesthetic and looks like a Lewis Gun.

There are still military looking guns in FO4 though, right?
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>>316399794
I have plenty of non pipe weapons, what's your problem?

>They didn't exist in any other game in the series
Fallout 2 had pipe guns.
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>>316399794
Yeah it really doesn't feel enjoyable at all until you get lucky and stumble across a Short Hunting Rifle and then mod it with a long barrel, scope etc.

Honestly the only weapons that feel decent are the 10mm, Combat Shotgun and Hunting Rifle. I haven't found an Assault Rifle yet but it looks so fucking dumb that I don't really want to.

>>316400619
>There are still military looking guns in FO4 though, right?

oh you poor thing
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>>316400619
Yes, and you can mod every weapon to look pretty much however you want. I found a sawn off hunting rifle (yeah, retarded) and modded it to a regular looking rifle, then a sniper rifle.
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>>316399794
Fallout 2 had pipe weapons you vegasbaby

and they are just "thrown together" weapons anyways so naturlaly they are common.

I like them, they look propa orky and are highly moddable
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What is it's function?
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>>316400725
>>316401225
Fallout 2 had one fucking pipe rifle, which was made completely obsolete once you found 10mm pistol since it had the same damage but held only one shot. And you could find said 10mm in Klamath rat caves IIRC.
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Mod to replace the Assault Rifle with pic related when?
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I miss the chinese assault rifle :.(
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>>316401225
Fallout 4 takes place like, 45 years later than Fallout 2.

Also, compare the weapon variety in both games and CTRL+F "pipe" while you're at it.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_weapons
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_4_weapons
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>>316401603
To look quirky and steampunk.

>>316401719
At least get an AR-10 or something.
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>>316401603
gas port to cycle the action
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>>316400619
>1950s aesthetic
>Lewis Gun
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>>316402194
I've been wondering, when does F4 take place in the series?
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>>316402340

But Fallout is retro-futurism. Did anyone tell Bethseda?
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>NPCs don't have a BAHSTAHN AHKSENT
>there's no Irish people either
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>>316402669
It doesn't!
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>>316400608
Doctor's or Addictol, Addictol looks like an inhaler, and it's expensive as fuck to buy, there's 2 in the place you -actual spoiler- find the guy that shot your wife, it's a factory you go to with valentine
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>>316402686
FO1 and 2 aren't canon anymore, so they can do whatever they want.
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>>316401225
>so naturlaly they are common.

no, since the game is in America it's actually easier to find regular weapons than making your own.
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Peopled called out Bethesda because they couldn't make guns worth a shit. The devs probably just ended up making bullshit looking weapons so they can use a "people in the FO universe are stupid, of course the guns look unrealistic and shitty looking" excuse if they get called out again.

I guarantee military themed weapons are going to be DLC.
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How did we go from THIS...
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>>316400608
radscorpion food recipe
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>>316403040
Instead of making old stuff non-canon, why not just consider the new stuff to be in an alternate continuity?
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Can we take a moment to talk about adhesive indices?

I suggest buying up stock in adhesive in case the cap market crashes.
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>>316402669
Six years after New Vegas
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Is there anyway to exchange ammo or some shit, I have literally 1800 rounds of .38 and almost nothign with anything else, I hav elike 270 10mm and 180 ec.
>>316403272
There is a combat shotty, and it rapes ass hard, witha large mag it has 32 shots and does 78 dmg with the "Powerful" mod and a longbarrel
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>>316403272
Did the owner put catnip on that thing?
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>>316401225
>and they are just "thrown together" weapons anyways so naturlaly they are common.
I think the point of real world weapons being commonplace in Fallout 1 and 2 is completely lost on someone like you who thinks the series is some ebin Mad Max/Borderlands post-apocalypse ordeal, for fuck's sake man, they use bottle caps as currency, how dense are you?
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>>316399794
I have over 8>>316403680
00 .45 bullets for my combat rifle

[Spoiler]Cleared vault 114 to save Nick Valentine
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>>316400619
I've modded a hunting rifle to look like an old military rifle complete with a musket. Couple it with the Navy Cap and you look like old war military.
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>>316403584
Bottle caps as currency make no fucking sense

But I find it funny
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>>316399263
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>>316399263
It'd be fine if it wasn't for that barrel. Looks like they started with an M249 and added stupid shit to it.
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>>316400619
If you count the Thompson and SMLE as "military looking rifles," then there are some.
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>>316401038
>obrez
>Retarded
some faggots I swear
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>>316403272
Apparently bethesda at least fixed that one.
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>>316403942
>he doesn't know
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>>316403942
It was Nuka Cola caps specifically according to Fallout lore, they have a specific shape which made them difficult to counterfeit and were backed by water in the old games.
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>>316403958
>"knows nothing about guns"
>actually makes decent looking homemade guns
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>>316403942
>Bottle caps as currency make no fucking sense
For Fallout 3 and 4 I completely agree, try playing 1, 2 and New Vegas, maybe you'll understand the point.
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>>316404387
I'm economically retarded, what does backed by water mean?

I know that it's the equivalent of being backed by gold, but I hardly even have a grasp on that.
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>>316403942
Yeah, it doesn't make sense but its one of the quirky things about the series, and I honestly like it.


I really like how New Vegas handled currency, with the NCR trying to go back to pre-war paper money and Caesar using old Roman style coins. Great system, great lore.
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>>316399263
"We want the steampunk audience"
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So whats the melee weapons like, and is there a hardcore mode?
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>>316404387
>difficult to counterfeit
So who is making new caps in case they get lost or something? Hell there are some weapons that use caps like mines.
>backed by water
Backing your currency with a consumable good seems like a bad move
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>>316404690
*Dieselpunk
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>>316403958
>knows nothing about guns
>somehow able to cobble together revolvers and belt fed rifles
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>>316403532
isn't that the same?
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>>316401603
The gas pipe to cycle.
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>>316404671
It's basically the idea that the money is a token for something of practical value; gold is deemed precious and so gold backed money means you're currency 'guarantees' you a proportional amount of gold.

With the NCR their currency went from water backed caps (same as above but water was more valuable in the wasteland) to gold backed notes until the Brotherhood sabotaged their gold supply. Now the caps are like our currency, not backed with anything other than the promise of being able to buy something of equal worth to the currency.
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>>316399263
If you played Valkyria Chronicles you'd know for sure that gun was designed by Gallians.

I guess Todd played VC when it came out on Steam?
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>>316401038

/k/ would like a word with you..
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>>316404824
Melee doesn't work.

No.
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>>316404550
those welds are really really ugly
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>>316404550
He's not actually gonna try and fire that is he? It looks like it would explode the moment he pulled the trigger.
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>>316404671
Wasteland was a barter economy and there was one thing you could always barter with, water. As civilization started to rebuild trade increased and carrying all that water became impractical so a solution of one bottle cap for one bottle of water iirc.
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>>316405154
Doesnt work how?
Bugged, or not in the game?
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>>316405137
it's retarded though

you need to drink water, not hoard it

if anything you'd treat the bottlecaps like gold because they're fairly rare and write notes backed by them
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>>316405137
>It's basically the idea that the money is a token for something of practical value; gold is deemed precious and so gold backed money means you're currency 'guarantees' you a proportional amount of gold.
Okay, but do we ever exchange what the tokens represent?
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>>316405137
Imagine having an obsidian made fallout game centreing on the collapse of the now huge NCR because to an economic crash due to unbacked currency. That would be fucking brilliant.
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>>316405391
It's just really weak, especially early game.

I mean I GUESS it makes sense, ranged weapons are obviously better than melee weapons, but Bethesda goofd
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>>316405391
EVERY melee weapon is a spear
they break in one hit... and you have to constantly repair
you need power armor in order to carry enough to maintain spear use
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>>316405393
That's a step too far to seem like a practical idea.

>physical capacity
>rare/essential resource
>currency

You're suggesting

>physical capacity
>resource
>rare object
>currency
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>>316405554
Ignore the double post, 4chan is behaving particularly shitty tonight
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>>316405393
Yes but you also need to eat and have clothes and shelter, so before currency, survivors bartered using water to trade for things like food, shelter, clothes. Then they used caps (easier to store than water) backed by water as a currency.
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>>316403958
>who knows nothing about guns

At least Bethesda is honest with themselves
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>>316405064
It sort of is but that idiot suggesting it doesn't realize that nobody would give a flying fuck about the new thing if the new thing was already deemed non cannon. It's like being told from the start it was all a dream, there's no fun to be had.
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>>316405628
So like 3, then?

Fuck it, there'll be mods.
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>>316405628
Nigger, I've been punching fools with my unique power fist for hours and it hits harder than any gun, on top of staggering.
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>>316405452
You can if you want to and in certain situations it's a good idea. For example, if an economic crash is coming, exchanging money for gold, while the money is still worth something is a decent idea, however, due to globalization, it's also a safe idea to invest in expensive currencies before yours drops in value, if you have a lot of insider knowledge and can project this, you can essentially profit from any fluctuation via gold/currency shuffling.
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>>316405452
No

Not in practice (that's part of why that system is obsolete)
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>>316405452
It's not so literal, and relies on a central body managing it. They might not have the amount of gold equal to all the currency it backs, but the central body is assumed to have enough wealth to pay the debts of the currency it distributes. Think the Bank of England for example.

Just as how you couldn't go into a bank and ask for £5 in gold, you couldn't go to the NCR and ask for water for their paper notes. It's more the idea that the central body is acknowledging a proportion of that wealth is yours, and you trade your share with the trade of the note/coin/cap
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>>316403958

>foregrips

why did they cut those out?
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>>316404671
in the gold standard system, basically, money is paper that has an equivalent amount in gold in the bank (and in theory you could go to a bank and withdraw that amount of gold, I guess). Plenty of banks still back up their currency with a supply of something, though it's not required any longer, of course.
The bank prints the notes and depending on how many notes exist, they're worth a fraction of the gold in the bank.
It's basically an IOU for gold.
In fallout its an IOU for water, since clean water is a valuable (and I guess stable?) commodity

Is there a bank in fallout though? That actually holds the water that the caps are supposed to be representative of?
Water seems like a bad idea, I know its rare but fuck, if you find a clean source its like finding a well of gold that mines itself.
Can't vaults with water chips effectively print money?
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>>316400619
>it fits the aesthetic
nah, pic related would've fit the 1950's/early 60's aesthetic. It looked space age back then, and it looks space age now. The "assault rifle" in Fo4 fits a faggy steampunk World War 1 aesthetic.
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>>316406040
So the punchy weapons are good, then?
Is it most of them decent, or just specific ones?
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>>316405452
you could in theory, but it's pointless since you'd only get a small lump of gold equivalent to your money, which would be hard to transport and trade. It's easier to just have a bunch of paper that represents the gold, and the bank that provides the paper guarantees that the gold exists and is worth what it says.
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>>316404847
New caps are still minted out west. I don't even know why they're the established currency in the east
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>>316406506
Water is hard to transport, there is little to no water infrastructure. Caps, in the lore, are used because they are finite, hard to counterfeit and easy to transport. Outside of the lore, it's a commentary on consumerism and the deification of brands.
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>super mutants in power armor
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>>316399263

war has changed senpai
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>>316406506
Water traders in the hub in Fallout could be the central bank sort of.
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>>316401603
that's the gas tube. when a round is fired, gas is pushed through that tube in order to push the bolt carrier back. it's a staple of automatic weapons
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>>316399207
>>316399263
Better than fallout 2 having G11s and shit
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>>316406893
DON'T YOU FUCKING SAY THAT YOU PIECE OF SHIT
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>>316406812
That makes sense. I mean, its a bit retarded in actual practice but from a literary standpoint it seems like a pretty clever thing to do, especially the way they built on it in New Vegas.
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>>316404824
There is a Survival mode where you don't regen health as much from things. Not sure what else it does.
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>>316405092
>>316402382
can't be a gas tube, it's way too exposed and if it were one the gas would flow straight into the handguard and not cycle any action, Bethesda artists just don't know anything about guns. This is the Fo$ equivalent to 3's Combat Shotgun
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>>316406028
He's wrong though, he's just an idiot who didn't read what perks do.

There is a perk that almost nullifies damage while you are sprinting for example.

Melee weapons are strong as hell.
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>>316407080
Resources probably come in smaller quantities too
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>>316406994
Fallout 3 made no claims that pre war america was '50's america' though, and remember they have power armour aswell which is more implausable.
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>>316407008
That theme is also the reason why real world weapons are part of the setting, brands, products etc. Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas are the best examples of economics fiction of the past two decades.
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>>316407116
Is the only problem with 3's Combat Shotgun the fact that the drum is too far forward?
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>>316407116
Is it not just part of the cooling system? Maybe it's a pump to cycle coolant around the cooling jacket.
I mean, as opposed to water, it could use some future shit, like radiation, to cool the barrel, so you don't have to piss in it every 10 seconds like an actual water cooled machinegun
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>>316406506
Keep in mind water was rare before the NCR established trade routes and the Capital Wasteland had the purifier running, and still is outside of these territories. It seems purifiers are common in the Commonwealth by the time FO4 takes place.

What that means is that water was only common after the NCR used a gold standard, so the water was valuable when it was backing the caps.
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>>316402686

Bethesda's Fallout is, if anything, more retro-futuristic than Black Isle's Fallout. The only really retro-futuristic part of Fallout 1 or 2 were the vaults, the intro cinematics, and maybe the power armour and some of the energy weapons. Everything else had this grungy, over-the-top look, like a lot of the games of the 90s.

90% of Fallout 1 and 2 only looked like it might have been retro-futuristic once, decades ago, if you squinted.
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>>316407353
There's also no ejection port or charging handle.

Can someone post a pic of the FO4 combat shotgun? I want to see if they fixed those problems.
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>>316399263
Oh so is that a Side loaded mag?

Look dude the FG42 and Sten were cool back in the day but come on
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>>316407164
And theres more than spears, right?

I'ma gon be sad without my hammah and shiskebab.
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>>316407476
that makes sense, it also kind of makes a lot of sense that they'd use a sketch standard since they just need to get an economy together, and that's the most valuable commodity to hand. Even if it is very consumable and hard to manage, I forget that they're just trying to scramble a civilization together sometimes.
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Lee Enfield No. 4 SMLE

Is it in game?

The only rifle that matters.
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>>316407604
What if the shell stays inside, and goes back into the drum? It could be some crazy revolver mechanism
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>>316403942

Bottle caps are easy to carry but hard to make, are light and easily divisible, are uniform in their construction and hardy enough to be recognizable after years of handling, and don't have any inherent value that would tempt people to take them out of circulation. What would you use?
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>>316407752
of course there is
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>>316407353
>has drum magazine but still features loading tube like structure
>magazine is in front of the forward hand position, making the weapons EXTREMELY front heavy, especially considering most of it's metal part volume is on the front
>chamber/receiver assembly has no way to feed from the magazine
>trigger guard is so long that there is no space for the hand behind it
>port is directly above the trigger
>front sight is higher than rear sight

Pretty sure I'm also missing something.
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>>316407229
I think its that fallout takes place in a world where the transistor was never invented, and everything just kept running on vacuum tubes and shit, so the military tech kept improving, but civilian technology and culture stayed largly the same.
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>>316405154
>Melee doesn't work.

Are you that whiny bitch that started a thread and got called out for your incompetence yesterday?
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>>316407754
That's exactly it. Common thing of finite amount and good durability? Bottle caps. Something worth trading for to back it? Water. First two things to hand, and it did the job for a while.
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>>316407361
or it's just stupid design and trying to justify it is even more stupid by saying there's stupid stuff enabling the stupid design to not be stupid by stupid things like RADIATION COOLED GUNS
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>>316408196
I meant to say fallout 2, not 3 sorry. Still, even in that world having G11's is stil plausable.
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>>316408070
I might just get this game after all.
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Are there any pipe shotguns?
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>>316405393
The real nonsensical part is there's no way to control bottlecaps as a currency. If some guy finds a stockpile of untouched sodas he gets a bunch of free drinks and brings a bunch of unaccounted legal tender into the system.
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Gun Nut level 2 mods for the hunting rifle
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>>316408898
>mods are actual mods
>not:
>you either
>kill your son
>or nuke
>the commonwealth
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>>316408898
>Those shitty graphics
>from a steam screenshot

For what purpose?
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>>316408898
Looks alright, but 69 damage seems pretty low.
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>>316409189
69 is only low if you get paid for it.
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>>316408593

Interestingly enough, pretty much exactly that can happen in Fallout 1 - in one random encounter, you find an overturned truck full of bottlecaps. Depending on your character build, you could find enough to never have to worry about money again.

Remember that (in the west, at least) bottlecaps were only used in areas without much infrastructural (re)development. In Fallout 1, no one really had the means to start printing currency, and New Vegas takes place in a no man's land where no one's currency is really trusted. In Fallout 2, everyone uses NCR-made coins (and the NCR haven't even taken over everything yet!).
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>>316406582
fallout's 50's isn't our 50's
they had robots, vaults and nuclear cars.
I'm glad the guns are a bit different.
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>>316408898
So uh, why does a rifle suddenly does more damage vs. specific enemy types? Just a generic RPG thing?
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>>316407116
The recoil spring isn't in line with the barrel, it's in the handguard. The only problem is Bethesda took a gun design that's already gas operated and added a giant tube to make it look more gas operated.
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>>316409347
Fallout 1 is like barter/pre currency where people would use gold instead of goods to barter.
Fallout 2 is like Roman empire era, where basically everyone accepted Roman currency
Fallout New Vegas is like early/pre industrial where people basically new the value of each currency (franks, pounds, livres) and would transact in any of them.
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This game really needs an UI mod fast, like sonic fast
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>>316409291
Nice.
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>>316402802
Some of the guards have a wicked pissa accent, and cait is irish
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>>316409560
It's an enchanted gun that's dropped from legendary enemies.
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>>316407116
Looking at that now, its a terrible design, even for someone without a lot if firearm knowledge. The gun is long as all hell and would be extremely front heavy. That stock is terrible, it provides a terrible cheek weld. Side fed magazine, if it feeds from a magazine at all why does it have a massive cooling jacket? Those sights are tall as fuck, they should be much lower. It looks very unwieldy, I can't even pass that off as its just made from scrape, a lot of it looks like the parts were specifically designed to be retarded.

Fuck man, they could've just used simple guns and looked up actually home made firearms instead they make this shit. Guns were a very well understood and developed tech in the 50s

What are some good mods for newvegas, I want some more fallout but this isn't cutting it
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>>316409347
NV was so good.

Why didn't Bethesda learn anything from it??
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>>316406875
I seriously hope they won't do this

Frank Horrigan was enough
That's why he's awesome, he's the only one
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>>316404227
>tfw can't 1 hand the Obrez
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While we are on the subject of Fallout 4... can anyone tell me if The Pitt is mentioned in any capacity? Just curious, seeing as its the Northeast still and all.
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>>316409812
Bethesda HATED obsidian and New Vegas because they shat out a far superior game in like a year and with a budget of 12 dollars and a stick of gum.
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>>316405145
Eldin?
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>>316405676
>spears
>bethesda game
nice try
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>>316409812

Because that would be acknowledging that Obsidian did things better than them, so they looked to FO3 instead and ''improved'' on it.
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>>316405061
>"Sole Survivor is a retired army veteran..."
The wife however....
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>No semi automatic rifle
>only fucking bolt action hunting rifle
>closest is Laser rifle
>tfw no gunfu

Mods when
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>>316406506
Water merchants basically dominated trade in Fallout 1. They controlled the primary supply of pure water and had various towers and resivoirs to hold them
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>>316405628
I'm downing shit easily with a Modded Baseball-bat, and there's still one more damage mod above the one I'm using.
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>>316409812
To be fair to them, Skyrim is one of the most sold games, up there with Minecraft and GTA V. It only makes sense for Bethesda to try and apply the same formula to fallout.
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>>316409750
Oooh, an enchanted gun! That makes a lot of sense.
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>>316409528
Fallout 50's is very close to ours. It's just everything after that gets janky
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>>316410128
BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
*CLICK*
BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
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>>316409978
Obsidians gonna obsid.
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>>316399207
>>316399263
Starting guns are literally rusty and ruined. Their colour is like diarrhea shit. It doesn't even look like rust. It's in such poor taste.

The guns look like bad mods, it's seriously bad.
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>>316400619
>military looking guns

yeah if you get your crafting stats high enough to change every component
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>>316410128
why the fuck are you faggots crying about fo4 not having realistic gun design? what the actual fuck? go play STALKER. or is that too hard for you?
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>>316409812

New Vegas didn't sell as well as 3. Bethesda's a business. It wants to make money.

I wish Fallout 4 was more like NV too, but this is the real world we're living in.
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>>316399263
It's machine gun not assault riffle. I guess it could work as such for soldiers in power armors, but for those without it would be too big, too heavy, too clunky.
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>>316410539
I'm not talking about design wise, a semi-automatic rifle is a completly different kind of a gun than a bolt action one.
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>>316409087
>>kill your son
>>or nuke
>>the commonwealth

Wow is that seriously the ending to this fucking game?
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>>316410105

The wife could easily be a war veteran as well. Pre-war Fallout wasn't *literally* the 1950s.
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How come Shaun is an old man in 4 and Kellogg looks like 40, despite having kidnapped him as a baby?
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>>316408898
>Bolt on the wrong side

God that triggers my gun autism so hard
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>>316410539
>STALKER
>realistic gun design
kek
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>>316410026
?? Its the status effect upgrade path in VC. All the guns in that path have the same barrel structure.
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>>316410128
There's a semi-auto combat rifle that uses .45.
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>>316410671
The saddest thing is it's a scrapped idea from Fallout 3.

>In contrast, the Lone Wanderer, son of James from Fallout 3, was originally forced to slay his own father, but the part of the storyline was scrapped away.
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>>316410707
I'm pretty sure the wife was a lawyer or something
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>>316410351
die
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>>316410539
New Vegas had a healthy mix of real-world and bullshit weapons that did a good job of providing that alternate-reality, Sci-Fi firepower alongside weapons that could actually exist in the real world and that look like something that would be mass produced and issued/carried.

Everything in Fallout 4 looks like a Bioshock Infinite special snowflake gun. I don't really think it looks that bad, it's just stupid and annoying.
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>>316411142
triggered :^)
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>>316401038
>not liking the obrez

Disgusting.
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>>316408898
>>316410539
Because the guns in other fallout at least tried to make sense. Im not needing 100% realism but making zany designs for the sake if it is stupid. Google homemade guns, or look at Khyber pass. You can have interesting designs without going full retard
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>>316410637
>too big, too heavy, too clunky
Not really. The only thing that'd make that gun too heavy is the liquid cooling system which you'd only need if you were in a sustained firefight.
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>>316406040
Try that with the power armour on
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>>316410707
Wife is a lawyer.
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>>316411628
>>316411141

Is that made explicit? If so, that's dumb.
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>>316407752
I like the new super sledge design
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>>316409528
No, the '50s were basically exactly the same in Fallout. It's just that the culture doesn't really progress in the same way after the '50s.
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>>316410728
Maybe because kellogg is a cyborg
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>>316410739
Every single bolt action is on the left and the animtions look goofy as fuck because of it. Why the fuck did they even bother to change this of all things.
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>>316400834
>The combat rifle doesn't feel good

What the fuck, nigga.

This thing has been carrying me through half the story.
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>>316400619
>Assault Rifle
>water cooling

no, its just a really silly design, made up universe or not.
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>>316409850
I found one with power armor pieces on so sorry to ruin the surprise for you and he was shooting at me while one of those fucking suicide bomber mutants ran at me
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>>316407752
m8, why do you keep saying spears? there no spears in fo4
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>go str build
>melee weapons and heavy weapons have shit weapon mods

i guess i cant turn my machete into a shiskbab because its a fucking separate weapon later on
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>>316399207

Did you ever consider that H&K may have sued them or some shit over the shape of the buttstock? They are a German company after all.
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>>316412182
Is that a stock for manlets?
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>>316412556
oh, so it was designed by todd
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>>316412612
Bethesda: by manlets, for manlets!
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>>316409850
It's not power armor power armor.

It's just shitty, cobbled together scraps that you can mix and match with your armor, though I doubt you'd want to.

>>316410128
Nigger the combat rifle is the best gun in the game. It fires .45 which only the shitty submachine gun uses but is still a common round, does fucklots of damage for a semi-automatic firing bullets you find several dozen of at once, is accurate as hell and wrecks shit.

I have it and a modded hunting rifle and the Combat only does 4 less damage.
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>>316409750
They don't call it an enchantment, but it's inherent in the dropped gun, you can't take it out and there's no explanation as to why exactly these guns have those effects. It's literally magic.
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>>316399794
>ammo
>scarce

There is a Perk for that you humongous retard.
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>>316412717
Found the exploding assault rifle and have stuck with that most of the game so far.
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>combat "rifle"
>fires .45 pistol/smg bullets, even though the model has a large rifle magazine with rifle bullets VISIBLE in it during reload

bethesda does it again!
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>>316412556
It's made for footballing the gun for hip fire.

>>316405628
Power armor increases melee damage. Strength scales ridiculously with damage. Strength has actually good perks, including power armor-related ones. Endurance is good now. Lategame melee weapons are fucking devastating. Almost every armor legendary drop I've found would work for melee.

Melee's about becoming undeadable and bashing in faces now, not one-shotting people instantly.
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>>316412371
That wasnt me, that was the other guy.
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>>316408170
the bolt shouldn't be able cycle at all in the fallout 3 shotgun. there is supposed to be an ejection port's length worth of free space for the bolt to travel back, but there isn't any.
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>>316413171
IT
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>hmm i'm running out of ammo
>go to diamond city to buy some
>mfw the prices of ammo

looks like I should have went melee
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JUST
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>>316413171
you can at least mod it to fire .308 with gun nut 4 or something
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>>316413579
I haven't played the game but that sounds good.
I like the idea of having to conserve ammunition instead of shooting at everything as if I'm playing an arcade shoot 'em up.
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WORKS
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>>316413579
Shoot ferals in the leg until it explodes.

Repeat until they're all on the ground.

Beat them to death.

And carry a multitude of guns, not just the best one you have. Use your shitty ammo on shit enemies.
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senpai kek
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>>316413731
lazer weapons put ferals on the ground in like 3 shoots to the legs
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>>316413873
Combat rifle shot with one in Commando to the leg puts them down in one shot as well. Then you just do it to their buddies and keep smacking them with your gun butt until they die.
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Is it possible to changer colors in any gun?
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>>316411780
Yes, her diploma is in the living room, and you can examine it.
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>>316414804
On your baseball bat.

That's it.
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Institute weapons look slick. Come at me.
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>>316399263
looks like that one gun from TNO
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>>316415271
Where did you find that PA?
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Is there a mod that makes it not a Bethesda game?
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>>316415336
Down South
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>>316406582

glad im not the only one who hates steampunk. what else do you expect in this age of mediocrity
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>>316415271
>black eyes
so close to perfection and they just had to fuck this up
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>>316406582
The M16 wasn't even introduced until the mid 60s you retard. The M14 and M1 garand are 50s early 60s
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>>316415783
I've seen a white suit with red eyes posted in another thread, also the eyes light up.
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How do i fix ths?
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>>316415783
-> HATE POSTER
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>>316408593
In new vegas you learn that people DO control the flow of bottlecaps. They take out old and busted bottle caps and introduce fresh ones, since they have their own presses. They also send you on a mission to destroy a counterfeit bottlecap machine.

They said they don't really care about small-scale shit since it takes forever to make enough to buy shit, but they crack down on cap-presses
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>>316416163
>red
Yellow, it should be yellow!
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>>316411141
>>316411628
>>316411780
She mentions 'dusting off her law degree' in the tape Codsworth gives you so maybe she went to law school but then joined the army?
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>>316399263
Bethesda's theme for FO4 revolves around soft round shapes, which is why there are a fuckton of pipe weapons. This is also reflected elsewhere in enemy models such as Yao Guai, Deathclaws, and Mirelurks, as well as the environment itself ranging from machinery to the layout of certain areas. Even the new power armor design carries this theme with the more compact outline and added bulkiness.
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>>316415572
Is that enclave power armor?
Wut
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If I can run NV at medium settings, think I can run this at low?
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How the fuck do companion perks even work? You max their affection and you get the perk, right? I got codsworth to talk about how much he loves me and my family but no perk has shown up. Does that mean I have to suck up to the robot even more?
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>>316416329
>Running NV at medium
What kind of toaster do you have?
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>pick lock on a safe
>Strong disliked that
what the fuck is this horse shit
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>>316416329
If you cant run NV at max your PC will explode running FO4 even at low.
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>>316416517
Well, to it's benefit it runs at 60 on medium.
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>>316416217
No yellow around here until mods arrive
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>>316406582
I have no clue where you guys are getting the steampunk vibe from.
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>>316416615
maybe because hes a Mongoloid fuck that likes smashing shit open rather than lock picking
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>>316416329
You should be asking yourself how well you can run Skyrim instead
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>>316416615
HATE LOCKPICKING

>>316416753
Well at least the base model is pretty good.
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>>316416163
what the shit?
how do you get multiple rigs?
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>>316416816
People think anything with pipes slapped on is trying to be steampunk even though steampunk fags slap gears on things and pipes is more dieselpunk
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>>316416947
Find more Power Armor Frames around the map. You can even buy a couple of them from vendors.
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Where do I find a power fist?

I want to punch shit.
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>>316399263
Its trying too hard to look WWI steam punk.
These damn atheistic changes make the universe so disjointed and confusing. There's no continuity with it at all.
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>>316416753
nice armour, have you been finding them or googling them like a fuck boy ?
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>>316416947
They're all over the place
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>>316416753
>multiple power armors just fucking standing there in the open
holy fuck, my autism got triggered hard
at least in Fallout 3 your base of operations had doors.
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>>316416721
Well, I never really tried max but it could have worked.

>>316416863
I could run skyrim very well on medium settings.
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>>316417128
i found one in goodneighborhood
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Glad to see people are finally catching on. I don't mind the pipe weapons but I want some real fucking guns as well.
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>>316416136
>CRC check
>cyclic redundancy check check
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>>316407604
Looks like they did.
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>>316416947
Literally just look around.

There's at least one on every military base bigger than a single building.
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>>316417285
You have to build up a wall + doors to keep out raiders or they take your shit
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>The X-01 powered infantry armor can be located inside the Abandoned shack. Can be found at level 30+.
Wait, loot is level scaled now?

>>316417487
How do you hold the handle on this one with that second rod coming from the stock?
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What are some good mods for new Vegas
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>>316416615
>Paint your power armor Hot Rod
>Codsworth liked that
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>>316413579
>Every bullet turret in the game is apparently filled with 1,000 rounds of ammo.
>You can't break them open and become a trillionaire and pay someone to make you forget fallout 4
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>>316417747
http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_Mods
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