Now that the dust has settled, can we talk about how crap this game is?
I usually like Bethesda games, but this feels rushed and plays like shit.
>>316398467
I'm having a blast tbqh. There's way more shot to do than I thought, I'm swamped in quests at the moment. Just killed the Mirlock (That right?) Queen down at the Castle. That was a fucking tough fight let me tell you. Acid spitting cunt.
>>316398467
I do honestly wonder how long they taken to make it. I have a bit of doubt that it was straight after Skyrim as they were still making DLC until mid 2012.
At most this seems like a 3.5 year job, and it shows in odd ways, like effort in some places and none in others.
This is the first time I honestly felt the phenomenon of "It's a good game just not a good x game".
Played it for 2 hours. Haven't touched it since.
Glad I pirated it.
Might be for some, but it wasn't for me. Has no appeal.
>>316399014
*mirelurk
>>316399346
>Might be for some
For 12 years old kids.
>>316398467
>I usually like Bethesda games, but this feels rushed and plays like shit.
Then you should love it because you just described all their games. Fix your bait bruh.
>>316398467
hehe memes get funnier the more they're repeated!
>>316399174
I don't even think it's a good game.
It feels like a retarded imitation of a bethesda game, runs/looks like crap even compared to vanilla skyrim in 2011. I can't even play it for more than an hour or 2 in one sitting without getting bored.
Feels like a 6/10 game, if that.
>>316399567
Eh yeah, maybe that's the problem. Who knows. If I was 12 I'd certainly think it was amazing.
>>316398467
It's weird. I fucking hated how empty and lifeless Skyrim and Fallout 3 felt, but once I got past the bad npc voice acting, I'm genuinely enjoying this one. Which is something I never thought I'd say about a Bethesda game. I didn't even like Morrowind.
>>316399346
>>316399567
I wish I was as cool as you guys.
>>316399174
same
I'm enjoying as an open world shooter with customisation, but this isn't your typical Fallout game.
they ripped off mass effect+far cry 4
>>316399567
>For 12 years old kids.
This is F4, not Bloodborne.
>>316399346
The appeal went for me with the voiced protagonist and dumbed down dialogue system. I'd have given it more of a chance if it was like The Witcher where Geralt was voiced but you had fully descriptive dialogue boxes.
On the Geralt note, giving a character a backstory makes it harder to roleplay. How do I go from a suburban dude to eating human flesh and shooting old ladies in the face?
I got what I expected from it.
A mildly entertaining game to kill time with. I wasn't expecting any breakthroughs with Bethesda, and anyone who was is an idiot.
It's just a 6/10 game that's working for me as a tool to kill time.
>>316399579
If you think morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3 etc. are bad, or comparable to fallout 4 then I don't really think you belong in a discussion like this. Maybe you ought to go lurk in a weeb thread instead.
>>316399875
Like I said, effort in really odd places, I wonder how much time was spent giving one character ( Codsworth) the recorded dialogue to say specific names?
>>316399832
Why be mad at me? It was an honest opinion.
I tried the game, I just didn't like it.
Why act like a little fucking faggot over it? Didn't even say it was bad. Just didn't hold my interest.
Eat shit. If you want I'll actually shit post if that suits you. Fucking rump roasted bitch. Go the fuck back to /vg/.
>>316399831
One extra aside: Why is it that your character is instantly familiar with all of the terms and shit that people throw around immediately after coming out of the vault?
>>316399581
it's shit, you can't deny everybody saying it as a memer
>>316398467
The stuff you encounter is pretty dull compared to the other games so I'm spending most of my time building my settlements.
I've made a building 8 floors high
>>316400212
fallout 4 is better than fallout 3, I await your reply.
Liberty Prime. That's enough to sum Fallout 4 up.
>>316400212
Morrowind, maybe not. But the others are all equally shit for their time.
TheInstituteending was absolute trash.
>>316400323
Because it's a rushed-out-the-door cash cow that wasn't given enough attention where it matters to be a real RPG.
ok so if I loved NV, how much will I enjoy F4 on a scale of 1-10? And should I get PC or PS4 version of it?
>people that play FNV telling me that FO4 "plays like shit"
Loving Every Laugh
It's an abysmal game, every aspect of it is shoddy.
>>316398467
Jesus god. I am adding a fucking filter for "Now that the dust has settled"
>>316400281
calm down there edgelord
we get it you hate popular things
congratulations
why is the movement in 3rd person so fucked?
>>316400683
yeah it was really bad... i didn't realise the game had even ended.
>>316400617
You're wrong
Gotta love the bugs in this game
>Have piece of armor that gives 10% chanche for enemy to drop weapon on melee attack
>enemies randomly drop their guns when they hit you with a bullet
>BOS knight do not retaliate when attacked
>two shot them with maul and stack on fusion cores and t-60 II B power armors
Also, that fucking Duke. Pickpocket his fusion core and he leaves the armor there for you to take away
I'm bored already honestly. I'm just not motivated to do anything. I literally don't give a shit about anyone, not even the main character since the voice actor and dialogue ruined that. I'll probably go back to NV, or try witcher 3.
>>316400617
They're basically the same game.
>>316398467
I understand that the roleplaying aspect is gone with the VO, but I'm still enjoying the game.
Lately I've been roaming around trying to track synths. It's been a blast. I'll find two identical people somewhere, one has a gun pointed at the other, and I gotta choose who is real and who isn't.
I end up killing both of them anyway, just to be safe.
The game has many flaws but I still enjoy it.
>>316401340
I never said I hate it, there goes your over emotional fanboyism showing up again.
Played the game for a couple hours.
It wasn't bad, it wasn't good, I just didn't enjoy it.
Felt more like a garage simulator rather than a fallout game.
Stay mad though for no reason. I'm just glad I didn't piss away money on it. That would have been a real bummer.
>>316400938
New Vegas is one of my favourite games and 4 is getting a 7 (which is "good"). The dialogue isn't dark homour anymore, it's actually pretty wacky/goofy in places for some reason. Minimal amount of skill checks. Quests are pretty linear unlike NV which has multiple paths. Of course new dialogue system is limited.
BUT all the customisation is great. Companion interactions are more personal with some meaningful moments. Shooting mechanics more refined, including VATS too.
Basically it's a more simplified open world shooter with customisable elements and limited RP potential, but still has that addictive exploring and looting nature.
>>316401445
No you're wrong
>>316401037
protip:They never played FO4..
>>316400617
They're basically the same game.
>>316401445
Prove him wrong?
Can you join the Institute? I want to go full Blade Runner and retire rogue synths.
>>316400207
This. I'm using this to kill time until Yakuza 5 comes out.
Todd "we've been working on this since fallout 3 came out" Howard thinks the level of polish is fine.
>>316401037
Plays well, role plays badly, quite a shame.
>>316400938
always get the Pc version retard
>>316402136
I don't give a hoot about customization. I'd much prefer to have diverse storylines and factions. Honestly if they gave me a handful of weapon types and variances but invested all of that time adding boring shit into storylines and replayability, it would've been an instant buy for me.
But seeing how everyone says it is, and off your description, it doesn't seem to be as fun. Would you say its as open world and has as many dialogue types/options as NV or is it more limited? Because that 4 option dialogue wheel is a major turnoff.
>rushed
Doesn't seem like it. There's a lot more shit in this game than I initially expected. Every time I think I'm done finding shit, I find a heap more, plus a faction. So far I've found Brotherhood of Steel, Minute Men, Railroad.
>plays like shit
It actually plays a lot better than 3 and NV. Guns feel like they have weight and impact. Character movement isn't floaty anymore. Characters finally show emotion.
The more I play it, the more I start to see that the only real offense this game makes is it's graphics, and it being on Gamebryo.
>>316402174
No you
Its a lot better than Fallout 3 and Skyrim to be honest family.
>>316403125
Thats a pretty low bar.
I actually like the weapon designs in this game. Shame that when the mods come rolling in, the style consistency will be ruined by generic M16s, Colts, and other generic modern realistic weapons.
Almost inspires me to model a bunch of FO4-styled variants of our modern guns. I just don't look forward to the amount of time it'll take with school being a thing at the moment.
>Try to deviate at all from the predetermined Bethesda Fun-Path
>grenades and legendary weapons everywhere
doesn't even pretend to be YOU CAN DO ANYTHING anymore. shame
I was on the hate wagon, because I fucking let /v/ be a terrible influence on me, but after I played it some I think it's actually not as terrible as people are trying to make it out to be. Especially after The Witcher 3 came out though, it's hard to not see it as ridiculously technically inferior. 6/10 so far. Could be 7/10 if they didn't release it with so many bugs.
>>316402806
It's not an RPG anymore, don't be fooled.
This story is just dumb, fucking 5 minutes of backstory and I'm supposed to run around Boston yelling "MUH BABY MUH BABY". I don't even give a fuck about the baby, how am I supposed to role play when I can't even make any choices about the role I'm playing.
>>316403313
Improvement is improvement. The direction from fallout 3 to 4 is a lot more promising than from oblivion to skyrim.
Ok. I have 90 steam funbux. Should I buy this game or wait for XCOM 2?
>>316399346
Where find virus free pirated copy?
So boring.
Where's the challenge?
Where's the immersion?
It feels as if the game is still in beta.
Why base it on the shitty skyrim engine?
Fucking why bethseda!?
>>316403698
Yeah, that's the biggest shame, remove MC voice/ backstory and have a dialogue box and choices and it would've been alright.
>>316403889
Except for the fact Skyrim is at least still an RPG, where as 4 is just a shooter for the Mass Effect audience.
>>316398467
>plays like shit.
How so? It has the best gameplay by a country mile compared to any other Bethesda game.
I actually went in with the mindset that it was gonna be garbage. 40 hours later, my settlement is full of stacked shanties everywhere with a market area and 8 settlers, I'm level 24 and barely scratched the story, and found a few factions.
Game actually isn't as shit as /v/ claims it to be, to nobody's surprise, really.
Graphics are garbage, yeah, but anyone who doesn't have a plebeian fucking IQ can get past graphics, unlike most of the hivemind here.
what am i supposed to do with all those shitty pipe guns and duplicates?
i mostly leave them since i don't want to run to a weapon bench and scrap them or sell them every 5 minutes
you can't repair
also if i have a good mod on one weapon i want to scrap, do i have to craft a shittier mod to get the good one into my inventory and equip that on my main gun, there should be a less convoluted way to do it
I'm like, 99% certain one of my limbs just auto-recovered while I was limping on it.
>>316403954
Buy xcom 2.
Maybe FO4 when it eventually gets a goty edition with all dlc for 25$ during a steam sale.
>>316404214
Limbs auto-recover after a set period of time since combat ended, I'm pretty sure
>>316404138
>Skyrim is an RPG
Not it isn't. There are 3 stats in the entire fucking game, HP, MP, and your sprint meter. If Skyrim is an RPG, so is Fallout 4 and Call of Duty for that matter.
>>316404082
where's the challenge? are you even playing survival?
Pirate FO4, buy XCOM 2
>>316403954
XCOM2, DO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO ASK?
I recommend FO4 only at <$40.
>>316404618
It's an RPG in comparison to F4, is what I meant to say.
Couldn't they atleast have tried with the graphics for skyout 4?
IT'S FUCKING 2015 PEOPLE!
>>316404618
Fallout has 10 stats...
Does the amount of stats determine whether or not a game is an RPG for you?
I'm sorry to say anon, but Skyrim is definitely a game. 事実は争っても変わらない
>>316404618
>it's a game
>you roleplay
Sure sounds like an RPG to me, turbonerd.
am I crazy for saying this game heavily reminds me of Borderlands crossed with Skyrim and whatever shit bits they fit from F3 or NV
>>316404918
The clearly were sticking to some kind of neo fallout art direction. The game does look great though if you're playing on a PC.
>>316403954
Did you like FO3 or NV? Because desu it's a better version of those except in story/role-playing?
>>316400040
gotta ignore the prologue. who knows how you were before the war anyway? codsworth?
>>316405192
The menus look like beta. All blurry and clunky though.
The exploration is decent.
I don't give a flying fuck about the story.
Gun customization is fun even if it isn't particularly deep.
Dialogue wheel is fucking garbage.
Game doesn't have any roleplaying elements.
Perks and building your character is a lot worse than the previous games.
Guns don't really feel like guns with the sound they make. Feels like I'm shooting toys.
Building a settlement seems to have a lot of benefits but I really don't care or want that in my Fallout.
Yet I have still been playing for a good 17 hours so far.
On one had I guess I am having fun but on the other I'm annoyed by all the wasted potential.
>>316404875
Which is still a retarded statement. Skyrim isn't a single bit deeper than Fallout 4, and it is arguably a lot more shallow.
>>316404918
yes, because cement and radiated ground waste are incredibly similiar to draw. Are you really comparing a symetrical masterpeice to a game with soo many variations of scenery and colors?
Your literally comparing Tony Hawk Pro skater to Deer hunter....
Ps. I don't see you claiming to work for a gaming company, which tells me you're just a fanboy whiner.
I don't, and have never played fallout. Not my thing, but i still think it's a great masterpeice. You couldn't program a fucking tomagachi
>>316405192
>The clearly were sticking to some kind of neo fallout art direction.
>The game does look great though if you're playing on a PC.
this is fallout 4 on ultra
>>316404192
I wouldn't mind stone age graphics. I mind that they require you to actually have a decent computer.
Le bethesda pr0gramming.
>>316398467
>Now that the dust has settled
>Can we talk about
I just came here to tell you that you are a raging fucking faggot and you should kill yourself.
Seriously. What kind of fucking loser comes on here starting threads with this kind of shit? You're not starting a conversation at a meeting hall or something. You don't need to ask "can we talk about". FUCK.
>now that the dust has settled
FUCK OFF. FUCK. THE DUST HAS NOT SETTLED. THERE IS NO DUST. YOUR FIGURE OF SPEECH IS FUCKING GAY. FUCKKKKKKKKK.
YES I AM MAD, YOU SOUND LIKE A FAGGOT.
>>316405496
The entire premise runs opposite to what an RPG is supposed to do. Straight from the beginning you have your character telling his wife and baby how he loves them oh so much, when you as the player neither know or care about these characters. What a stupid way to open a game. No one likes babies.
>>316405679
>which tells me you're just a fanboy whiner.
Yeah, sorry for complaining that game companies should have some standards.
>I don't, and have never played fallout. Not my thing, but i still think it's a great masterpeice.
if it's not your thing, are you just in this thread to shitpost?
> I don't see you claiming to work for a gaming company
not everyone works for a game company unlike you
>>316405812
>You're a raging faggot
>proceed to rage like an actual faggot
>>316404192
>listening to /v/
>ever
>especially when it's just a tantrum of mass autism over nothing and shit they invented themselves
>>316404192
>Graphics are garbage, yeah, but anyone who doesn't have a plebeian fucking IQ can get past graphics, unlike most of the hivemind here.
If the gameplay was impeccable the graphics could've been excused (bethesda is a small indie studio afterall)
the gameplay isn't good, it's tolerable
>>316406071
Now that the dust has settled what do you think of my response?
>>316405812
This is what you do, you come on /v/ and get mad over insignificant things you will question (or not) when you are an old man. I hope this is a good way of you taking out your anger, as it is for the majority of folk here.
Todd Howard: Totally seamless world with no loading screens!
Me: Oh shit a loading screen!
guys, why should I buy settlements?
what's the point?
I've been dicking around in base building the wall of trump, adding a ton of stuff and yet no one's attacked me
>>316405563
roleplaying elements? It has stats, weapons and armor have numbers on them, branching quests, party members, level ups?
???
>>316405812
stay mad faggit
>>316406418
Was p.gud desu senpai. Had a sensible chuckle.
8/10.
>>316398467
Best game I played since Grand Theft Auto V.
Witcher was unplayable as fuck, ran like shit and gameplay was shit. don't know the story cuz it was unplayable.
>>316406607
I have installed the game on a SSD and still have to wait too fucking long for it to load.
anyone else experiencing this?
>>316406792
You will have to try better than that buddy
>>316406459
Can we talk about how crap this post is?
>>316404192
>but anyone who doesn't have a plebeian fucking IQ can get past graphics, unlike most of the hivemind here.
This coming from the guy who just wasted 40 (F O R T Y) hours of his life on this shit game and didn't even finish it.
It's a lot harder than previous ones and i think that's what's pissing some people off. Making them say it sucks. The AI does get hung up on things sometimes but overall the behavior is improved.
I'm enjoying it quite a bit. Only thing that really pissed me off is during the Mirelurk Queen fight those little crawling things have tiny hitboxes and the endless stream of them drove me nuts.
>>316404192
I'm sure bethesda will be super glad to know that you will still buy fallout 5 when they turn it into The Sims: Rust Edition
>>316406029
How did NV start?
I don't like that I can build up every little settlement i help out. I just want my Sanctuary to rival the Diamond City.
>no Mr. House reference in the game
Bethesda had one fucking job.
The fact that he's the Institute's most famous student and isn't memorialized on a plaque in the fucking C.I.T. ruins at the very least rustles my goddamn jimmies.
>>316407183
You try to find the guy that shot you in the head.
>>316406926
no, please tell me what role playing elements are to you. You don't have to be so jaded and cynical, it is a simple question for a simple man.
Okay so I haven't played the game yet, but can someone answer a question for me? If I'm playing in first person and I enter dialogue, does the camera zoom in on the npc like in the previous games or not? And is there really no way to get rid of the player character's voice?
>>316407110
>The Sims: Rust Edition
That....would....be...FUCKING EPIC xD!
>>316407335
This is superior to the way FO4 starts?
>>316403859
Don't play the game??
>>316407083
I found a flamethrower right before I started that fight that helped a lot, about the difficulty I've been playing on survival and I'm glad they didn't make the enemies into bullet sponges like the previous games.
>>316407494
>If I'm playing in first person and I enter dialogue, does the camera zoom in on the npc like in the previous games or not?
No, and i'm so fucking glad. You don't even have to hit e to talk to some people. Just target them and they turn and talk to you. Much smoother.
Holy shit does the companion AI improve once you get better peeps or are they all as unforgivably terrible as Garvey is? Nigger gets stuck on everything and misses practically every shot he takes with his shitty gun.
>17 hours in
>Main story finished
>All the quests I seem to find are GHOULS/RAIDERS BOTHERING VILLAGERS PLEASE HELP
Are there really no interesting sidequests?
>>316407675
The build up is at least.
I was a lot more excited to start playing after the cinematic where you get shot than I was after getting out of the cryo whatever.
It helps that the opening village is great in NV and shit in F4
>>316407823
Some people really don't know how to play open world games properly.
>>316403859
It's an open world game you don't have to play the main quest. I think I played forty hours of oblivion and never bothered with the one in that, you fucking faggot.
>>316406873
this
>released less than a week ago
>dust has settled
>>316407719
>tfw i found that after the fight
>>316408058
Oblivion was also like 40 times larger..
>>316407719
>I've been playing on survival and I'm glad they didn't make the enemies into bullet sponges like the previous games
liar detected.
We've been playing the same game with slight modifications for the past decade.
Getting kinda old now.
>>316407984
Really? It seems to me like you as the player neither know or care about these characters.
Weird.
>>316407675
Yeah, because the game gives you plenty of leeway to create a character as opposed to just a face. It doesn't automatically assign you a loving wife and child or a career in the military. You can be a bumbling bruiser going from job to job or a traveling doctor/snake oil salesman trying to make ends meet with a little extra courier work. The game gives you plenty of excuses to hunt Benny down, from wanting answers or revenge to trying to avoid the thugs House will send after you if you fail to deliver the chip.
>>316398467
I'd love to tell you how shit the game is but its been installing for 1 hour and all I can comment on is the shitty Special vignettes
Currently at 33% so another 2 more hours and I can get back to you!
BONGO BONGO BONGO
I DONT WANNA LEAVE THE CONGO
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>316407404
For me it means that I get to make my own character with my own motivations. FO4 forces Bethesda's character onto you.
You are telling me I am meant to roleplay (not like you can even do such a thing considering the fucking dialogue wheel) as this married guy who fought in a war(or at least was in the military) and is now looking for his son?
How am I going to relate to this? Why do they expect me to care about a son who I have known for five minutes?
Why have such a forced backstory in a game where they think player freedom is so important?
New Vegas left your backstory to the player through dialogue choices. The only thing set in stone was that you are a courier and have done courier things.
In the event that I am not replying to bait, does that answer your question?
I wouldn't give a shit about the incredibly casualized gameplay and shitty graphics if they bothered to hire decent writers.
>>316408304
I don't.
That's why I want to find them. To find out why they shot me.
>>316408020
Yeah, the empty world and nothing ever happening is really compelling.
but some people... baka senpai...
>>316408447
What about all the stuff leading up to the point where you witness such an intimate event like getting shot in the head? That must have been really interesting. But no. You're given no reason to care about who those dudes are or why they decided to do you in that way. Totally fucking lazy.
>>316408020
>It's not SUPPOSED to be good or interesting!
this game would've been "decent" if it didn't have fallout in the title
>>316404193
Invest in perks that give rare components for scrapping weapons.
>>316402827
Wow I bet you're so much more intelligent than console gamers
>playing a Bethesda game before the modding community has been at least somewhat established
Tippity toppity kek m8
The game is trash because they know everyone who is not retarded (consolefags) will pirate and mod the fuck out of it. Casual fuckwits lose a bit of cash and the rest of us get another game for the nexus to turn into a magical wonderland.
Don't know why people are complaining, it happens every time. I've got it installed and everything but I'm waiting for at least a texture over-hall and a decent nude mod to start a playthrough.
>>316398467
the ending is weak. it didnt feel finished. the only reason i knew it was the end was because of the video that played
still was quite fun though
>>316406326
>Bethesda
>Small
>Indy
>>316403494
I mean yeah, if you're shit. I just kept going east and am having a great time.
>>316409067
>wow it's like they tried to make a real fallout game but were shit at it
compared to
>wow it's like they tried to make a real fallout game but were shit at it. good thing they didn't name it fallout
I'm not sure if the name would really change anything
>>316407823
I've found some fun ones, like the brotherhood of steel goose chase, and the shit with those two brothers, and sushibot.
>>316408973
You are this goddamn stupid.
They said there would be returning Fallout 3 characters. Is this true at all?
To be honest, it feels like a fallout 3 expansion pack instead of a new game
I like how the devs went with the retro feel. this game feels like something i might have played in 2006-8.
>>316408934
What are you on about? You get knocked out before you even realize Benny and his goons are upon you. When you wake up, he's talking with the Khans about how to get rid of you, explaining that your death is nothing personal and that he'll at least give you the courtesy of looking you in the face before he shoots you. Then he shoots you. You witness everything you can related to your kidnapping and assumed death.
>>316407058
Do you know how to have fun?
Wasting time is the point of the game
>>316409534
>lmao who cares about writing in a story driven game just wander around and kill shit xd
>>316408717
Yes thank you, in that sense I don't think its any better than fallout 3's intro (except maybe that it's shorter). I feel like in these games you can freely forget about the main quest and do your business as whoever you like.
Most of my time in Fo3 and NV was sneaking around gathering supplies for the settlements mod I played with, building up bases and roleplaying as whatever so this new game is more like how I like to play in the first place. That said I don't think the shaun/military backstory has bled over into many of the sidequests so I'm not too bothered by it, but I'm glad to see someone write out their complaint instead of just memeposting.
I really hate the interface. Ugly and I am scrolling like a mofo. Wow, so shitty.
>>316409720
Quit reaching. It's beyond sad at this point.
>>316404124
I'm just going to hope mods will make the game somewhat of an RPG soon so I can at least say I didn't spend 67$ for nothing.
That being said, from now on I will never buy a game before trying it out.
>>316409720
bruh don't indulge the shills
>>316409936
No, really, what are you trying to say? How is it inferior to Fo4's intro as far as actual roleplaying and character creation is concerned?
>>316398467
As someone that plays sneak characters, I have a few gripes, like not being able to crouch underneath things that are forehead level when you're standing.
Overall it's alright, though. I mean, I'm 17 hours in and wanting more, so I consider it money well spent.
>>316409364
its a joke you fucking idiot
How does this even happen ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzACD99LPcI
>>316401785
Yup. If I get one more fucking 'kill all the ghouls/radiers/mutants here plz' quest im gonna shoot the quest giver in the face and watch them not care since they're essential.
>>316409794
No, you dullard jackass...
You're given an open world to explore and do whatever you want in, and you say "well fuck that shit! John Cena!" and just do the main quest line and NOTHING ELSE and then literally be utterly clueless as to why you're not getting the most out of the game. You complete and thorough goon.
>>316401785
Same here. What a bummer.
Played it for like 10 hours. The only thing that it did was to make me want to install FONV again and maybe complete the main quest this time. Might start to play FO4 again later.
Btw is modifying your base mandatory in any way? Cause I fucking hate it and wanna skip it
>>316400040
The worst is if you play the housewife... how does she know how to do all this shit, shes a 1950s housewife? Also her personality kind of sucks, but still better voice acting than the husband.
Also they basically do nothing with the 250 year timegap, your character has no reaction to the wasteland and everything they've known and love being destroyed, has dialogue options based on history your character should have no idea about, knows the names of creatures and uses them in dialogue without even hearing them. Its really fucking immersion breaking.
Also couldn't give two shits about my "family" but it comes up often.
>>316410350
There were people who flew through the main quest in Skyrim in one day and said they finished everything. They're just doing it again.
They haven't learned a damn thing.
actually really enjoy the game, put in 35 hours so far
don't really mind the new dialogue system but I actually think the complaints about the lack of roleplay options are pretty justified, the "build variety" is next to non-existant, with the way SPECIAL works and can be leveled up, but it's overall a huge step up from Fallout 3/NV when it comes to actual gameplay
crafting and Power Armor are pretty great
>>316399014
This, I fucking died to that bitch like 50 times. And that's not including that fucking mutated cunt in the room with the rocket launcher.
>>316399014
Get out Mr. "Fallout 4 is my first fallout" faggot.
The fucking FPS drops in urban areas is unforgivable, I was enjoying myself somewhat, although the quests were boring. But that fucking performance just made me stop playing.
>>316410350
All the side quests are "kill these things" or "fetch this thing".
>>316410930
Same here. It drops from 60 to 25fps around the corvega factory. wtf
So far, I'm 2 and a half hours in.
That opening section was a steaming pile of shit, but now that I'm out in the wastes, the game seems to be a lot more fun and surprisingly challenging too.
Also, who the fuck thought that removing almost all role-playing elements from the game was a good idea?
>>316410954
That is what sidequest are. What their missing is context to make such blurbs interesting.
>>316410954
Now you're pulling shit out of your ass. Not that you needed to lie for someone to figure that out. You already said you didn't do any of the side quests before.
How does the game end anyway?
>>316411163
I just joined the conversation you fucking retard.
>>316410915
DICK
>>316411198
You kill your son
or
You nuke the Commonwealth.
>>316411198
Meh. When it comes to beth games, its all about the journey rather than the destination,
>>316411418
the game is shit from beginning to end though
>>316411350
Does dropping the nuke actually change anything or do people just call you a cunt?
>>316411350
Nah that was disproven. Plus devs confined 8 possible endings and that the game could continue after the end, clearly not possible if you nuke the whole map.
>>316411418
>average bethesdrone
Can't even get past the character creation. It just fucking freezes.
>>316411350
Well meme'd
The biggest plottwist for me was to actually find out this isn't the ending at all.
>Plays like shit
that's the ONE THING it does better than 3 and NV, it plays marvelously
the gunplay is better, you can loot without pausing, the AI is slightly better. If it has anything going on for it it's that it plays good
Is there really no way to start the shadow of steel quest if you did not listen to the radio when the airship flew over the fort??
>>316411534
>>316411725
Is this the start of a new epic meme?
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Shaun
>>316408304
>Not caring about the man who took the one thing you got paid to carry around the wasteland and tried to bust a cap on your ass
That would be pretty much the only thing I wold care about
Never in a million years did I think Bethesda could fuck up Fallout more than they did with 3. But here we are. Fallout 4 is closer to FarCry than to Fallout and my autism makes me pissed.
why couldn't we play as the baby again?
>>316411785
same problem, help or a console command would be much appreciated.
>>316412008
>Not caring about the man who took the one family member you have left, murdered your wife and left you to die
You can sugar coat it any way you want. Fallout 3, NV, 4 all have near worthless stories. That does not stop them from being entertaining at all though.
>>316408020
Some people also don't know how to make open world games properly
>>316412073
Does anybody else think a far cry set in post apoc retro future would be more fun than faggout 4?
Ignoring blood dragon
>>316411623
Go to bed.
>>316412460
Now that's a fair point. You have to appreciate just how much work it is though.
>>316412714
>When it comes to beth games, its all about the journey rather than the destination,
What's next, "mods will fix it"?
>>316412073
But anon! Its Skyrim, with guns!
>>316412846
>mods will fix it
Why didn't bethesda release the GECK with the game?
Did they want to force people to play a fucking vanilla bethesda game?
>>316412846
Are you telling that you enjoyed doing the main quest more than fucking around?
>>316413137
I didn't enjoy either because this is a terrible game.
>>316413103
Later, cause.paid mods
>background crowd noises
>literally 3 npcs around
CLASSIC BETHESDA.
why can they NEVER make proper crowds like those in asscreed games or literally any other modern game
>>316413103
First mod is about to be released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn3W_zc-Lyg
>>316413241
>>316413427
Mods are already out
Pre-order the season pass, pretty please!
>>316413475
Epic Facebook picture, not-a-Bethesda-shill!
>>316413560
Where can i torrent it Todd-chan?
What is even the point of putting power armor in this game? It sucks up cells so fast that you can't do shit with it.
>>316413647
>Willy Wankers
Its older than that cesspit.
as others have said this game plays really well and the homestead/crafting mechanics are really addictive but the writing is just utter shit. Can't wait for the creation tools to drop and total conversions to start popping off
>>316413740
playing in easy mode?
somehow their most lifeless game ever
everything is just waiting for you to show up and then a scripted fight happens
it's really... boring
and everything is gray, like skyrim
>>316413791
"Ragecomics" started on /b/ but using them nowadays makes you seem like a retarded 12 year old. What's your point?
>>316412440
>>316413416
because modern games use modern engines
hey what's a good virtual drive program. I'm currently using daemon tools lite but im assuming there is something better out there
let's try to focus on the positives
>>316408914
>baka senpai
pic related
The list of bugs i had in these past three days it's bigger than the list of bugs i had on Fallout 3, NV or Skyrim in years, from the AI going turboretard to a point to stay on their feet doing nothing while the enemies shoot the shit out of me until im dead, to spawning in front of the enemy while im trying to sneak past them, i send Dogmeat to the first city and now he doesn't exist anymore, he is lost from the game [/spoiler]there is even a mod to make the dog appear because it's a common problem, their first day patch it's a patch to fix some sound card related crashes, Companions also repeat the same shit over and over with little seconds of difference between dialogue, to that add that the shitty subtitles get stuck most of the times making it impossible to follow the conversation, most of the quest i made to this point are the same quest, go here kill or clean this place from some threat and make a new city, fetch this technology piece for the Brotherhood, a few minutes ago i quitted the game after i got stuck twice on a car trying to evade a super mutant, the game it's bad, it's not even a good level of bad, it has good combat yes, but thats all of it.
>>316413740
half hour not enough for you? There's a perk that doubles it
>>316413946
I hate the fact that retarded 12 year olds are using it.
>>316413280paid GECKwhen?
Man is the mirelurk queen bullshit on higher difficulties.
>Miracle spray that can just hit from any angle and any distance
>Just destroys health
>Wanders around at sanic speeds
>Mirelurk and hatchlings spawn throughout the entire battle
>Even after saving up a decent stockpile of ammo and grenades, blow nearly all of it through armour piercing weapons
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed that even with PA I couldn't just wander in and take over (though I was hoping for this since I left and levelled up) and needed several saves, but it just felt so cheap. She's fast, has high damage and armour. If ever i've come close to tossing out the term artificial difficulty it was then.
>>316414109
Dogmeat is in the doghouse in one of the backyards in Sanctuary. Retards like you are the worst
>>316414109
Post pic/list of bug anon.
>>316414051
I really can't wait for mods so I can have these two as my character and a custom companion, thanks for that anon.
>>316414109
oh no bugs that are easily fixed with one word console commands, wait you're not playing on pc? or do you just not know how to play a pc game?
>>316414717
I-its ok if you can fix it yourself
>>316414717
>>316414793
MODS WILL FIX IT
>>316403585
By this time bethesdas buggy game release became a shitty tradition.
>>316400212
>implying skyrim isn't shit
>>316414793
Why are you pretending to have a stutter on a keyboard, god damn you're retarded. None of these bugs are game breaking nor are they any inconvenience if you're not a total idiot, here I am enjoying my purchase and laughing at people like you who can't find a doghouse let alone the tilde key. Pass my condolences to your parents.
>>316414515
December or February. And yes it ain't free. 30 buckaroonies i think
It actually is keeping my interest which is hard to do these days.
Got a few named guns so far, not bad and I like my pup.
>>316415098
>purchase
LOL
>>316415098
Parents might be retards too.
>>316415098
I-its ok if i can fix it
>>316415098
tell your parents that they wasted their money
>>316398467
As an RPG it's terrible.
As an open world FPS with some RPG elements, it's okay
Guys this game gets like 100x better when your high
Does it physically pain anyone else that the first line of dialogue in the game is, "War... War never changes," spoken cheerily while the player character is giving himself a goofy fucking grin in the mirror like he's thinking about fucking his floozy wife before he heads out for the office?
There's no single indicator as black-and-white as that one that this game was made for people who have no fucking clue what Fallout is, let alone what Fallout once was. Forget the ending credits, I can't believe they eagerly blew their load on that line with absolutely no context within the first five minutes of the game.
>>316415098
>here I am enjoying my purchase
>>316414027
