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Blizzdrones will defend this
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What's wrong?
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That you have to pay for a game?
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>>316344450
>having to pay for a tf2 clone with moba ULTs that will sell skins and dlc

Told you
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>It's STILL going to be filled with microtransactions
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>>316344093
I think you posted the wrong picture OP.
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They're basically baiting you into purchasing the origins edition. The site is designed in such a way to make it look like it's the "default" edition.

However, anyone who isn't a fucking dumbass will take 5 econds to look around and notice that the base game costs $40 which is a more-than-reasonable price.
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>>316344093
Of course, the BRs and Russians are the only ones that will never pay full price for a video game.
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>>316344483
I'll have you know that you had to buy TF2 once upon a time.
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>>316344483
nothings been confirmed and youre pulling shit out of your butthole. Source me up fgt. Show me where they have said they will have a digital store in game.
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vote with your wallet

why are people even whining about not getting to play a game that looks like some shitty fanmade TF2 mod for free?
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>>316344496
>>316344497
It's nowhere near as bad as $60, but $40 is still too high for a multiplayer only arena shooter. 25 would've been perfectly reasonable.
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>>316344572
Oh sweet anon... you poor thing.
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>>316344484
this
a full prized tf2 clone with microtransactions
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>>316344597
>tightarse confirmed.
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This game will be dead on arrival. I don't know why people care. The hype seriously died out after one week and no streamers with 500+ viewers even want to touch it anymore after playing it for about a week.

Even HOTS was played to hell and had a lot of hype every time a video came out. The gameplay isn't that fun. You can't have a casual game like this with the same repetitive combat, it gets boring way too quickly.
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>>316344642
>he cant find any evidence. Only finds "they did this with all their games hur it must be true"

Granted its a possibility but we havnt seen shit yet. The game only has 1 fucking game mode too. Its still to early to tinfoil this.
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>>316344704
>You can't have a casual game like this with the same repetitive combat, it gets boring way too quickly
it's the same shit as any other arena shooter and plenty of them have done well, even if the hype trails off
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>>316344748
Anon, do you honestly think those skins you get when you pay 60 shekels are going to be EXCLUSIVE to people who paid 60 shekels?

They've already said they'll be adding new heroes in the future and they won't be free. Use Google. It's already been confirmed they're going to jew out on this as hard as possible.

They know this game won't live up to the hype, that's why they're doing that.
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>>316344914
Where's that source bro?
You're claiming all these things but not providing any proof.
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>>316344661
>Paying for multiplayer-only game with few maps
I mean i bought TF2 back in the day but it was cheap as fuck and still had more content
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>>316344962
>I don't know how to use Google
I'll just let you keep believing that Blizzard isn't going to sell skins and additional heroes

Even though it's already been confirmed.
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>>316345137
If it's confirmed and you are so sure of it, why don't you post any kind of proof?
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https://my.mixtape.moe/jejcdp.webm
They wouldn't skirt around the question because they do not want to release bad news...would they?
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>>316345445
>60 price tag
>shitty LoL model of buy heroes and skins

A Y Y L M A O
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>>316345214
they are giving 21 chars to start and implicitly said they don't have anything in the works to create more.
If this is a raging success I'm sure they will try and cash in with expansions like they did with d3.

There isn't any viable arguments against what's been seen so far so trolls are grasping at straws.
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>>316345445
>That's all were focused on right now
>We're focusing on our Spring launch
>Completely avoiding the question

Then again, it's not like he knows or he's allowed to answer. He'd have his ass handed to him by executives who ultimately make those decisions if he said yes or no.

Devs are just punching bags. They develop what they're told to develop and they take shit for the assholes above them that ruin the games for profit.
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>>316345670
Except for Jay Wilson though. Can't forget to include that fat bumbling fucking idiot.
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>>316345445
Skirting around the issue when they don't have a definitive plan based on the success or failure of the game.
They know damn well how hard it is to capture and retain an audience for competitive shooters and are being appropriately cautious.

Look at evolve as an example. No one wants to make that kind of blunder at launch.
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I'm honestly surprised they didn't sell beta access like HOTS did. They would've made a huge surge of money. Maybe that missed opportunity pissed some people upstairs off?

I just don't honestly see why they're putting a price tag on this game. It's like a mini-game if anything and they're going to lose a lot of people who were potentially interested in playing it. The micro-transaction model has been proven FAR more profitable then the B2P model.

I just don't get why they're doing this.
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>>316345958
Word of mouth at blizzcon was a beta is coming with more maps and all characters. Most likely limited invites will be going out in december and a open beta in March.
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>>316344995
>more content
>overwatch has double the amount of characters in TF2

????
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>>316346614
>double

It's closer to 3 times

Overwatch still looks shallow as fuck though
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>oh no! a company is asking for compensation for a game i'm enjoying??
>ah, it feels like buying mario 64 all over again!
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>>316346614
>More characters
>Less maps to play them in
Why not just buy Battlefield, atleast you can destroy the maps
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>>316346681
Oh I get it, it's because they're were both shit right?
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>>316345652
He means a source, perhaps a link to some form of discussion of theirs? Do you even have- no of course you don't.
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>>316345958
They're insisting that they don't have the server infrastructure for it yet, they haven't had any stress tests so they have no idea how bad it will be if they open up. They're probably going to bundle beta access with preorders or something though later on.

They're arguing that if they went free to play they would HAVE to sell heroes to make up for the difference, my guess is that devs and the higher ups can't compromise on this properly. I feel like the execs would love to say "just make it free to play like that League game," but the devs are surprisingly adamant about having all the characters available so that's how they resolved it. You have to remember too that this game is the scraps of the Titan project that they spent years working on without much to show for it, so that couldn't have been fun to explain.

40$ is decent UNLESS they decide to jew and make future Heroes buy to play. Personally, I don't mind having a set price for all the heroes in games like this instead of League's ridiculous "500$ to buy all the champs" bullshit. Smite does it right with their 40$ pack, HoN did it right by costing 40$, Overwatch is the same thing. This is the same company that owns a free to play card game that is impossible to catch up to now without spending ridiculous amounts of money on adventures and expansions, so I would say this is more than reasonable coming from them.
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I prefer games with pay walls, they are much more effective anti-cheat mechanisms than anything else really. How many times are you gonna shell out $40 to aim bot for 2 weeks?
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>>316347673
But the game already features aimbot and wallhacks as gameplay.
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>>316345958

>I just don't get why they're doing this.

Consoles, man.

F2P would make Blizzard a lot of money, but consoles make Blizzard a metric fuckton of money.
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>>316347731
Can't make a console shooter without aimbots, anon
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>>316347673
millennials disgust me.
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>>316346818
> they are were
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>>316348574
>space before greentext
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That main character is pretty hot tho
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>>316347673
LMAOBox, a cheat device for TF2 has a paid for version that at one point claimed was undetectable by Valve. While a paywall will deter some to not bother, others will have the income to cheat anyway.
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>>316344093
the burning you feel? it is shame.
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>overshill

Please, stop.
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>>316348829
Blizzard also have a good track record of banning cheaters :^)
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>>316346614
Double the characters means half the polish on said characters.
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I'd rather pay a hundred bucks then it being f2p shit
poorfags are the worst people on this planet
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>>316344093
If i would have millions of blizzdrones that buy literally anything i put on the plate i would price it premium aswell.
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>got into the beta
>don't even play it
>make my friends mad because i'm squandering my opportunity
>they are literally furious about it

ha ha ha ha ha overwatch sucks
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>>316346812
>Less maps
TF2 had 6
OW has 8
This is at launch, also overwatch could have more maps at launch since its still 8 months away.
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>>316349234
>Implying i bought it at launch
You are trying really hard to justify something here, anon
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>>316344514
>Of course, the BRs and Russians are the only ones that will never pay full price for a video game.

hurrrrrrrr
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>>316349326
I'm not, just don't go around saying things that aren't true, doesn't matter when you bought it.
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>>316349330
>two fiddy brazilian real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1op3ZoNeflc

man, usually hue-games are hella cheap
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>>316349412

>blizzjew are jews

Not surprising tbqh f.am.
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>>316349407
Where did i say i bought it at launch, you turbofaggot
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>>316344093
This game will be dead in the water.
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>>316349412
>man, usually hue-games are hella cheap
What the fuck are you talking about?
Every single 8th gen game so far has launched at above 200 hueals
And now they want to jew us out even more with microtransactions. Fuck you Blizzard, you're not getting MY money.
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>>316349516
You can't say a game has less content, I could buy overwatch 4 years from now and say it had more content then a new game coming out that year.
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>>316349585
huh, I remember last year when I bought games on nuveem games were far below in huelas and hella cheap for the yuropoor folks.
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>>316349614
So yer saying new games should have the least content possible at launch because they MIGHT have more in few years?
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>>316344093
>Beta out for over a week
>No ripped models
>No SFM

Blizzard fans truly are the worst.
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Blizzdrones will defend a special edition of a game costing as much as a regular edition of most AAA releases?

You really gotta dig hard to justify your unwarranted hatred of everything a company does, don't you?
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>>316349880

It's consoles' fault. Consoles customers are used to get cúcked out of their shekels while PC customers aren't nearly as much compared to them, just look at all the people on PC who aren't ADHD kids and always wait for Valve sales / humble bundle / etc.

They put 60$ precisely because of console friends. Inb4 "but we support the industry by getting creampied in our ass and also buying used games".
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ITT Children who have no fucking money.

Stop crying and get a proper fucking education and job.
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>>316344093
>pay $60 for a game
>then pay $10 for each character
>then pay for "mod slots" (rune pages) and "mods" (runes)
>then pay for skins so people know you're a TRUE PATRICIAN and not one of those filthy unwashed basic-characters-and-no-mods plebs, because image is everything

Nice game you got there, Blizz
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>>316351501

weak falseflag tbqh fammie, but have a pity (you) anyway.
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>>316349862
this. i need them
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>paying 60 to pay 10-15 more for each hero

KEKED
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>>316351654
characters are free and there are no runes or modifiers

you tried though, I give it a 4/10
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>>316351654
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>>316351916

Blizzard is fucked if they charge that much per hero. I expect some sort of $20 season pass for like 5 heroes or something shit. They'd find it impossible to justify charging THAT MUCH for one character which, at launch, is worth like 2 dollars.
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>>316352062
And the game's totally free too, right? Because the beta was! Based Blizzard giving us entire games for free!
>blizzfags actually believe this
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>>316344093
>Haters will mindlessly hate this
See I can write as well
>>316344914
>They've already said they'll be adding new heroes in the future and they won't be free
No they said that they are going to see how the game holds up after launch before they consider adding new heroes.
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>>316352062
>characters are free

source source source?

you're forgetting how they're gonna charge for skins though
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Literally Pay 2 Pay.

Genius.
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>>316346669
actually not lol
2x9 18
2x3 27

overwatch has 21 characters
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I can't believe people are still falling for this, anon. I guess I'll have to add this one to the list of " guaranteed replies " posts.
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>buying video games in 2015
thank you for contributing to the downfall of the industry
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>>316352254
>they're gonna charge for skins though

Who the fuck cares? You aren't gonna buy skins are you?
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>People saying that the heroes will be free.

You do realise at Blizzcon they mentioned that only the first 21 heroes out of BETA will come with the purchase of the game, which means that the next ones to be released after it will NOT be free.

>Pay to play a TF2 drone
>Pay to get new 'heroes'
>Pay for skins

L M A O
M
A
O
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>>316353814
>have to pay for them
>free
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>>316353993
You do realise at Blizzcon they mentioned that they will do more heroes after the launch to see how the game holds up.
>2015
>Not paying attention
L M A O
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A
O
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>>316354117
A Blizzdrone in denial.

xD
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>>316353993
How do you know you will have to pay to get new heroes?
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>>316349756
>"huh I bought the games on an illegal cd key reseller site like g2a/kinguin and they were cheap how comes?"
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>>316354117
>tfw you will NEVER EVER be this keked
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>>316354189
A Blizzhater not using his brain

xD
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>>316354319
>blizzhater
I am not that guy, and I am looking forward to Overwatch, but you need to stop talking immediately.
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>>316354281

>MFW Blizzdrones are Anthony Burch

Time for the redpill because why not.

-WoW

>They won't add microtransactions
>They won't add cashshop
>They won't add non-cosmetic microtransactions

-Diablo 3

>The 6 skills limit had nothing to do with consoles
>RMAH will be just fine
>Don't worry, we will deliver the PvP arena in a reasonable time and it'll be a good one

-Hearthstone

>There isn't powercreeped cards that makes old cards obsolete and force you to buy new cards

-Overwatch

>Adding a Field of View option will only make the game more confusing for new players
>Adding more heroes will only make the game more confusing for new players
>We will add as many hero as we can... actually nevermind that, the 21 heros is a good number, we're not sure if we're going to add more
>30 heros on level 20 achievement that was datamined from the beta, prior to the above statement
>If you buy the game, you will get all heros and maps currently announced
>"Will you put new heros/maps behind a paywall ?" It's a future decision whether or not to support more heroes. Focus on fleshing out other parts of the game right now. Want game to be healthy and not overwhelming.
>We can't simply say "no, there won't be a paywall to new heros/maps" because it's something we're considering the possibility, it all depends on how many good goys will buy and keep playing the game (in other words we will make sure to crash the game with no survivors if it goes well). If things go bad, the suit guys will force us to drop the game support we intended to :(, so no new skins, maps and heros because the game would be dead and not financially worth.

-Real life

>She is just sleeping on her male friend's house, she won't cheat on me
>She doesn't want to date me because i'm like a brother to her
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>>316354575
Shouldn't you be saying that to both of them?
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What the fuck does the origins edition even have
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>>316354658

Blizzard have 10+ options of how to monetize the game, but the only one they don't want to shut down is the paywall. You only do that if that's the option you're most inclined to choose, as they're scaring off a lot of potential costumers but yet they simply can't say no to that very specific option.

Now, let's compare that scenario to a son getting out of high school. His parents tells: Son, you can choose whatever the hell you want for college, but if you choose being a veterinarian, you will have to do that with your own money and you'll get kicked out of the house. The son, asked a week later about if he will go for the vet school, says he is still thinking about the possibilities. Now, why would the son do that if not simply because he is really inclined to be a vet ? If he had no interest in being a vet, he would say so, because he still has plenty of viable options left. He won't shut down the vet option because he is evaluating that if their fathers are being serious or they'll concede at the end.
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>>316354725
This is what Blizzdrones believe.

L M A O
M
A
O
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>>316354671
When has a shitposter ever stopped shitposting after being asked?
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>>316354575
He wanted to shitpost, so I answer his shitpost with a shitpost.
>>316354658
I'm pretty sure that nobody said even half of the points you made.
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>>316344568
>I'll have you know that you had to buy TF2 once upon a time

And TF2 didn't cost anywhere near that much.
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>preorder now and get nothing for the next 8 months

blizzard cant even into preorder jewing
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>>316354812
So why even respond to any at all?
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>>316344962
>>316344748
>>316344572
>>316346901

Fucking morons.
https://youtu.be/j2BSQk_owgA?t=47m25s
> inb4 you cant deduce from that video that new heroes wont be free
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>>316344093
>blizzdrones will defend this
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>>316344093
> game due in June 2016
> joy if you pre-purchase you will get 1 free skin in a b2p game
> pre-purchase does not give access to the beta
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>>316354658
I take it these are all things you said and are now deluding yourself.
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>>316354848
TF2 was, if I'm not misremembering, 25 usd at launch ( for me, anyway ). Overwatch is 40 ( assuming you get the regular edition ). In terms of sheer content, I'd argue that overwatch has somewhere between twice and thrice as many different tools, abilities and weapons compared to launch TF2. Now, comparing sheer, raw content is ignoring every other aspect of the games, but it's still an element to think about.
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>>316354826

I'm not adressing points made by Blizzdrones, i'm giving evidence that they will put new heros and new maps behind a paywall and this game will turn out to be Evolve 2.0. People will realize they got cúcked and will dump their girl (Overwatch) for wife-material games that charges reasonable prices and don't put gameplay behind a paywall.
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>>316354848
>>316355154
Don't forget people argue that TF2 was better when you had to pay for it and they didn't add all these weapons you can buy.
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>>316354951
>one hour long
jesus christ I don't have the time or willpower to watch this, can someone who's already seen it cliffnote it?
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>>316349330
fake
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>>316355154
20 bucks alone, and pretty much everyone who got it at launch got it with the Orange Box, which was amazing value fro dollar.

People who got it later on mostly got it on sales with big updates.
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>>316355167
Where is this evidence?
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>>316355154

>Only game mode is payload (capture point is basically static payload)

Nah, fuck that. 21 heros can't compensate that shit.
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>>316355306
Screwed up the timestamp, go to 47mins 25 secs.
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>>316355301
I'm one of those people and I still firmly believe that the game was at it's best either before any weapon patches, or before the whole manconnomy sham began when each class had one alternate loadout each.
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>>316344093

reminder that the game will be discounted on website selling keys, right now you can buy the last starcraft expansion pack discounted -3x%
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>>316355167
No you aren't, you haven't even given evidence that there will be new heroes after launch.
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the last patch made this game go from decent potential to clusterfuck trash real quick
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>>316355350
It's 249,99 you donut, so 250
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>>316355006
Fuck EVERYTHING in this image.
Fucking x-men Kerrigan.
Fucking doom crystals of doom, they're stronger than Kerrigan ffs.
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>>316355376
For the style and speed of game that Overwatch is doing ( which is to say, similar to TF2 ), Payload and CP are the two best gamemodes. The only other one that I'd argue is maybe as good is two way CP, and those get tiresome fast and heavily favor the more aggressive team. They'll probably add deathmatch or CTF at some point down the line, and I can guarantee you that they'll blow ass. There's always the possibility of something new being introduced, but out of the widely recognized gamemodes, the two good ones are the ones in the game.
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>>316355448
>People bitching bout price
>Buy regular Overwatch key for 28 EUR from a reseller
>No problems at all

Bought Legacy of the Void for 25 EUR as well
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instead of
>all heroes and maps after launch will be free with optional skins to purchase

we get

>right now we habe no plans for an ingame store for heroes at launch

>b-but they said they dont plan to add new heroes

how fucking retarded can people be?
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>>316344093
Shit...what's that other game that kind of looks like Overwatch but it has an actual co-op split scree campaign with like factions and actual decent looking gameplay? I keep mixing the two up.
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>>316355382
Right, okay.

Well, the guy said that they don't even know if they're gonna add new heroes, and that that if they do they don't know if they're gonna charge for them or not. So that's what I'm going with, " Probably no new characters for a good long while, and then we'll decide based on how profitable cosmetics have been whether or not it's worth it to charge for the new characters "
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>>316355508
Care to elaborate?
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>>316352210
we literally know the game will cost 40 dollars, stop being such a dumbass.
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>>316355886
You better not be talking about that garbage Gearbox is making, Battleborn or whatever
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>tfw based Blizzard paygating the game to keep the F2P LoL shitters on /v/ out

Truly based.
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>>316355395
Well when we were going through that phase of a lot of games going F2P. like TF2. People laughed at them saying they were trash, dead, just going to attract retards. F2P is shit because all the fucking idiots just flood the game making a shit community. Now suddenly F2P is a good thing and not being F2P is a bad thing.

Double standards all over. I wouldn't be surprised if Overwatch got loads of shit for being F2P with people saying it is just going to be full of retards creating a completely fucked community ruining the game. You can't win.
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>>316356034
Thanks anon that's it! Game looks like it be fun to buy used and return within a week.
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>>316355675

It's not being about the best game modes, it's about having some variety. If you eat the best food in the world, you'll get tired of it in no time.

They just had to make you drop the flag for CTF to work, but apparently Blizz is too stupid to even do that.

In the gamemodes that exists, your team is already forced to pick one or two healing heros if you want to win anything above the bottom MMR, so if CTF heavily favored mobility classes for them being easier to get in (gettting out would be hard with no mobility skill), there would still be plenty of mobility options just like there are plenty of healing options.
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>>316356065

> implying b2p is the problem

not talking about blizzard selling a game including a cash shop without giving any info about what will be inside this cash shop and what will be the pricing policy
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>NEETs and underage getting booty blasted because they only get 5 dollars a week allowance and will have to stop buying hot pockets for months to afford the game
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>>316356179
Markets changed

Blame LoL
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>>316355154

It'd buy it for 20. They can fuck off for anything more than 20 bux. Monkey Island taught me well.
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>>316356203
How often do you eat shit to get a good variety?
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id rather it be 40 bucks and get everything out the box than F2P with a shitty character rotation and some 100 dollar bundle to get all the characters
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>>316356228
its literally tf2 except this one costs money and its made by blizzard

i dont understand why anyone would play it other than new shiny toy / made by blizzard

its retarded
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>>316356273
LoL is an example people give showing F2P leads to trash communities.
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What the fuck is "pre-purchase"?
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>>316356221
>pricing policy

Expensive, that's for sure.
If it's only skins well fools and their money.
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>BRs, Ruskies and poorfags being used as smoke screen by Blizz PR team

One of my favorites shill-related memes.
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weeb heroes with infinite ammo clip and double lives, if you own the beta you must have noticed how much of a clusterfuck the game has become since the last patch, especially the tiny hollywood map its so narrow and tiny.

still beta i suppose though
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>>316356386

give money now get product later

(but we will definitely put the money to good work in the bank)
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>>316356065
they're gonna release a F2P model by the end of the year. They've done it with just about every game on Battlenet outside of D3, to bolster the player size and claim how well their games are doing.

Expect a HotS model of rotating heroes and likely some kind of currency system for poverty players to buy their Mei's in full force after hundreds of matches.
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>>316356540
Nice speculation bro.

And no, Starter Editions are not the same as a game being F2P.
SC2 and D3 both have them, but are still classic buy games.
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40 bucks for all heroes is actually good price if you look at hots pricing of individual heroes.
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>Splatoon
>releases with few maps and one online game mode, but a nice singleplayer campaign, loads of weapons and customizable outfits
>gets free, regular content updates, now has 4 online gamemodes and many, many more maps and weapons
>"WOW, $60 for this!? Fucking stupid nintendo, should have been free!"

>Overmeme
>releases with very few maps and a handful of characters
>other characters must be bought, will have paid DLC left and right
>"Based Blizzard! best $60+ dollars I ever spent, can't wait to buy more weapons and maps!"
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>>316349516
>Says "implying I bought it at launch"
>I'm not
>WHERE DID I SAY I BOUGHT IT AT LAUNCH
nowhere you dumb faggot. He said it literally nowhere.
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>>316356540
>they're gonna release a F2P model by the end of the year.
>They've done it with just about every game on Battlenet

Ah, you must be referring to that newfangled, poorly understood advance in video game marketing called a " Demo ". Truly a revolutionary and turbulent time we live in.
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>>316356872
Well, one costs two thirds of the other, for start.
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>>316356540
Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone were always announced as f2p.
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>>316355350
I weep for my nation
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>>316356987
It's bait, you fool.
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>>316352062
>characters are free
LOL,they specifically WRITTEN THAT YOU BUY 21 CHARACTER, NOT ALL CHARACTERS BUT NUMBER 21, YOU THINK WHY THEY DID THIS YOU FUCKING TWAT?
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>>316356446
>>316355964
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>>316356446
>>316357086
Oh, that was aimed at me, right.
Well, I'd love to be in the beta but I'm unfortunately not right now.

I've been looking at streams and stuff though, the new characters don't look that bad, it's probably the thing of " it's new and different and it terrifies me ", but we'll probably see some rebalances yet, they DID just get added after all.
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What I always get out of threads like these:

-the hatred of a company completely blinds people to reality
-there are a shitload of poor people on /v/
-there are a shitload of entitled people on /v/ who think that game companies should give them everything for free
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>>316356872
>splatoon
>like 6 different weapons a ton of reskins and 5 maps on launch
>60 bucks
>10/10 GOTY sonyggers are just mad they can't play it

>overwatch
>21 unique characters
>40 bucks
>WOW fucking jews should have been free


ITS OKAY WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT
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>>316357002
WoW and SC2 now have f2p options.
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>>316356356
tf2 is 8 years old by now

how is it so impossible to conceive that someone might be tired of tf2 by now and want to try something similar but new
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>>316356540
>they're gonna release a F2P model by the end of the year

you mean this year?
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I'm going to wait and see.
If its 40-60 bucks, with only cosmetic microtransactions, it won't be too big of a deal.
I wouldn't mind if they did like two characters a year either.
But if it's some League shit, I'm not interested, which would suck cause I'm really excited for this game
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>>316357239
>make clearly free to play game with microsactions in mind
>hurrr entitled!
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>>316355905
You are a moron if you think Blizzard won't reap that sweet microtransaction money.

This is the company that pulled of box price + subscription + cash shop.
The one that tried to get that sweet real money auction house. You are seriously naive if you would even think for a second blizzard hasn't already made skins and shit that they are going to put in a cash shop. That origins edition should already give you a huge sign for that. And the only reason they are not announcing paid heroes in the future YET is because they know it will hurt sales and become evolve 2.0
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>>316356228
>Babbie using mommies credit card
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>>316357513
> cosmetic (body skin especially) in a fps where most of the time you don't see your character

this is retarded
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>>316357738
Retarded or not, it works.
Look at TF2
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>>316357038
they said 'all 21 characters'
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>>316357268
>6 different weapons a ton of reskins
You have to actually know what you're talking about before you start baiting, dorkus.
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>>316357530
Jesus christ stop calling me names

There's gonna be microtransactions for sure, but we'll see how they handle it and how much they put behind them. This is still one of the companies that actually realizes that being good to their community pays off, you know. Diablo 3 has had so much free shit added since they removed the auction house it's unreal, and they haven't put in any other bullshit since. WoW is admittedly a clusterfuck today but that's what happens when a game's been running for so long. I'm not saying blizz is god and they can do no wrong but for fuck's sake, wait for concrete evidence before burning people at the stake.
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>>316357738
it's not about looking at your character, but about showing poor-fags that you have something they don't
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>>316357515
>I love assuming things!

Let's wait until we get an official quote from Blizzard before we lose our minds in rage and hatred, hm?
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>>316357810

And they could have said 'All Characters' But they didn't. They drew the line at 21 which implies that should more than 21 characters be released, say a 22nd after you've paid 40 dollars, you're not entitled to that 22nd character and will have to pay for it.

I know atleast a dozen people who were hyped for this game that are now aprehensive, and its not because of the 40 dollars, its because they could go full League / HotS / Hearthstone with the 'additional content' only this isn't a free to play game.
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>>316357842
Yeah, where does he get off? Making such inaccurate statements about the game, and in reply to that other post which was super accurate and fair, too.
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>>316357890
I find this more shameful than fan service with excessive amount of tits and ass
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>>316357948
So we're now basing our " facts " on semantics, as delivered by a nerd on stage who had to deliver an answer on the spot, without time to think up wording that leaves absolutely no room for speculation? Come on, now.
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>>316344093

Whats the Problem?
Its a full new Game.

Millions buy for the same amount of money, Fallout 4 and its an 1998 Game.
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>>316357852
No, because if you don't give them full flak now they will think it is acceptable to pull of this triple jew shit. Remember how games used to come without that microtransaction shit? Now it has become acceptable to have microtransactions in a SINGLE PLAYER GAME or to triple jew the fuck out of people with sub+box+microtransactions. That's how low it sunk. You truly are the disease that's killing this hobby and if you can't handle it go back to reddit, you can lick blizz ass all day long there.
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>>316358065
>as delivered by a nerd on stage who had to deliver an answer on the spot, without time to think up wording that leaves absolutely no room for speculation?
>implying they dont have all the questions/answers before they get on stage
how new are you
i bet you think magic tricks are also real
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>>316358065
Come on, are you this stupid. Imagine what good PR it would be if they told you all future heroes will be free. It would BTFO of diablo 3 + black ops 3 sales combined. There is a reason they avoid to answer that question like the plague.
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Fuck you
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>>316358260
>>316358190
They said they're going to wait and see how well OW does before they think of working on new characters and other content as well as announcing prices for such things. That is a fact. What you people are doing is speculation and assumption.
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>>316358158
Holy shit, back the fuck off. I'm not fucking disagreeing with you, microtransactions are bullshit and should die off, but this is two people talking in a thread that's gonna disappear forever in the next hour, not on the official blizzard forums or something. Cut down on the insults, you fucking over-reactionary spastic retard, I'm having a conversation about a future video game that may or may not have a thing, not assaulting your core belief system.
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>>316344093
between the time of release and now if you go outside and scavange for some money you could probably have enough to afford this game

poorfags ruin games
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>>316358260
He can't SAY they're gonna be free because he doesn't know that, though. He literally said he doesn't know on stage.
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>>316358065
>on stage
They always say either "21" or "all 21"
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>>316358065

Never said it was a fact. I just think its a likelihood that they've yet to outright deny despite many, many opportunities since announcing their pricing structure.

Also, This is the modern video game industry and fucking Activision/Blizzard of all companies. They don't get the benefit of the doubt. They lost their right to respect and trust half a decade ago. Expecting them to do the right thing and not asking for answers directly and as loudly as possible is just setting yourself up for pain down the road.

But seriously, here's how its going to go. They won't address this shit. They will sell the game and make a lot of money. Then when they want to make more and have people invested enough they'll introduce paying for 1 hero. Then they'll release a new hero every other month that people have to pay for, and by this point those people who would be turned off by this are already so invested they ain't going to do shit about it.

Classic frog boiling. It's how the industry gets away with all it's shit and its how Blizz will get away with this. Mark my words.
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>>316358448
Once again, go back to reddit where you are not allowed to do anything but suck up to blizzard.
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>>316355350
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>>316358523
And I'm saying I'm the CEO of blizzard and I want you to empty your life savings into our pockets.

Being this gullible should be capital punishment.
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>>316358575
I don't know if you've been paying attention to media recently, but the industry is most defintately NOT getting away with it. People are more up in arms with every instance of it, and Blizzard isn't gonna get under the radar by doing it. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, I'm saying they have not once dodged the question, they have always replied with " We haven't decided yet ". There's no proof that this is not the truth, so that's what I'm going to cautiously believe until there's anything to demonstrate that it's gonna be otherwise.
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>Poorfags

Will they ever learn?
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>>316357203
From playing the beta, I can tell you this:

dVa is ridiculously fucking strong, but her slow look/move speed and surprisingly loe health means that if she ends up fighting two or more people or someone who's quick and has lots of cover, she gets fucked. Her pilot mode is only useful for finishing off people.
Genji is, like Reaper, an ambush class. If someone sees you and you don't kill them before they can loose a few shots, you're fucked. He has incredibly low HP.
Mei is annoying as fuck. Her ice beam means that if you have more than half HP, you can just about anything by spraying it long enough, and you can completely fuck nukers with an ice block. Ice walls are fucking obnoxious, both to fight against and to place. Her ulti can easily change the game. (I haven't played much Mei though, so take that for a grain of salt)
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>>316358680
All we're saying is that if you can't afford clean drinking water, how are you going to afford this game?
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>>316359013
>we're saying

Speak for yourself hamburger leftover.

They have more clean water than this shithole ever will.

Damn rednecks.
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>>316358765
>We haven't decided yet

Games been in development for years. They're a seasoned developer with experience in practically every payment model available to modern games. They know precisely what they're doing and they're fucking LYING when they say they don't.

You're the reason they get away with this shit by the way. By being permissive and trusting them they know they can just shrug their shoulders and say "Heh, i don't know!" when they've got a team of developers, marketers and business minds working on making the best decisions to make their company money.
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>>316358986
Yeah, this seems like just about what it should be. D'Va is the siegebreaker/anti-infantry, Genji is the ninjamann, Mei is random bullshit. The roster seems nicely filled out with those, primarily because there weren't really any sneaky/assassiny types outside of Reaper and maaaaybe Hanzo.
I want a beta invite so bad ;_;
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>£45
Nah.
I'd probably of bit the hook if it was like £15. But the fact that it looks like an F2P game + all signs point to further microtransactions/grinding is a big "nope" on top of the AAA price.

I foresee them either dropping the price by 70% or going F2P within the year.
£45 is too fucking steep for the "eh what have i got to lose" attitude. It also means that you can't just "get your friends to try it".
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>>316359109
>America doesn't have cLean drinking water
>south America does

Might want to pull your head put of your ass their bud
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>>316359139


>ABOO ABOOOO WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR VIDEO GAMES

Jesus Christ get a job. Its 40 bucks for 8 maps and 21 characters.
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>>316359139
They haven't fucking gotten away with anything. If they reveal heroes that you have to pay for, I'm not gonna fucking buy them. There isn't any fucking trick here, if they're gonna do it without telling us then they're gonna fuck themselves more than by just being straight up and telling us that they're gonna do it ahead of time. I know you like to think that you're the only sentient being capable of critical thought and everyone else is caricatures with two character traits tops, anon, but this isn't the case. I can look forward to something and be able to spot bullshit within it at the same time, believe it or not.
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>tfw no interest in shooters for 5 years after playing in tournaments
>tfw new shooters look like piss easy baby garbage

Thank goodness I can resist this garbage.
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>>316359330

Again, i don't care about paying the 40 dollars. I care about paying 40 dollars to get access to a League of Legends style grind shop to unlock all the heroes.
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>>316359281
Bye Pepe

Also fuck BRs
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>>316356356
i personally prefer tf2 but guess those shiny animu characters and the diversity actually will appeal to wider audiences. you know some /v/ users think thats sjw and weeb and shit, and they get mad over it. But in fact, things have been changing.
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>>316359234
>>316359345
>>316359139


I wipe my ass with 40 bucks. The fact that you poorfags are crying about it is disgusting. Did you not go to college? What have you done with your lives?
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>>316359281
>You're going to extract HIM?
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>>316359447
Have you actually read the posts you linked, or did you just tag the first three bigger posts you saw to flaunt your non-existant penis at strangers?
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>>316359507


I do know that this game is packed full of content and 40 bucks is a reasonable price EVEN if you have to pay for all add on characters. You are clearly just being a baby about paying for video games.
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>>316359181
If you're cool with playing through remote controlling my computer, hit me up on skype and maybe you can try it out. Geotec / Antagocat.skype, pic related is profile picture
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>>316359447

This isn't a fucking poorfag debate you shit brained moron. I'm glad you can wave your dick around like a 6 year old but this entire chain of comments is about Blizzard and the industry turning to even more shit than it already is by introducing a F2P hero unlock model in a traditional Buy 2 Play game.

Go bitch at the actual people complaining about the 40 dollar price tag, because it sure as shit ain't me. One of my biggest laments is that buying games has died out in favor of this retarded F2P menace we currently see ourselves in.

>>316359345

> I can look forward to something and be able to spot bullshit within it at the same time

So what if you can spot the bullshit, even if you don't pay for the heroes, you support the game and the company that introduces this ass backwards duplicitous bullshit of a system, and by not telling the people about it they don't fuck themselves, they get idiots like you to buy their game and just shrug your shoulders 'Eh, i won't buy it!' when you've already given them your fucking money and tacit support of their bullshit that further harms the industry.

Well fucking done Mr Not a Caricature.
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>>316359447
Posting things that you clearly don't genuinely believe aside, £45 is about $70.

But anyways kill yourself for thinking that post was witty in any sense.
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>>316354274
>nuuvem
>illegal
anon I'll fuck you up
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Where's all the Tracer porn in this thread holy fuck.
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>>316359578
thanks but nah, it'd be weird. I've got other things to do while I wait, anyway
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>>316354848
>Posting the shill bonus pack, not the $40 regular priced version
Can't believe people are falling for this b8
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>>316347469
>good reply
>no responses
I noticed you, senpai
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>>316355006
F
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>>316344568
But it come with 3 extra games
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>>316344093
Blizzdrones truly are the worst of all, even worse than sonyggers.

They will keep giving their money for games that utter hype shit and eventually never get more than an 7.5/10 after all the hype has settled.

Its good to see Blizzard is losing more and more money since most normal people see there products are just as vile as the usual Activision crap they are trying to piss down the customers throat.
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Post Overwatch female characters backstory
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>>316347469
> This is the same company that introduced subscription with paid expansions AND cash shop
>This is the same company who tried real money auction house despite everyone and their mom telling them it would ruin the game (yes the removed it but only because it would hurt reaper of the souls sales)
>This is the same company that owns a pay 2 win card game

So how do you conclude from that they are going to ask a 40 dollar box price and leave it at that?
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>>316344093
I would
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>>316360135
Why is super Kerrigan the Kerrigan that lost super powers?
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>>316354658
>Blizzdrones are Anthony Burch
I have my wiiu though
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>>316359578
Do you have a source on that pic?
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>>316355154
>content

This is a poor argument

Stop it.
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>>316359732
>if you are not WITH me, then you're AGAINST everything I fight for!

Stop being so fucking dramatic, it's VIDEO GAMES, A CHILDREN'S HOBBY. Blizzard is a business, they make money just like all businesses by providing consumers with a service. They need to MAKE money to continue making games while paying their rent, employees, bills, and everything else. Anyone with a fucking JOB can easily afford a grand total of 40 bucks now and whatever else they release further down the line.

It's funny how you people these days are both so tired and angry at video games for not being what they were when you were children and proclaiming how you will never ever buy a game again while at the same time whining about having to pay money for video games that you'd likely never get the legal way anyways, all seasoned with your self-entitled "Why should I pay for anything?! Hand me whatever I desire on a platter!" attitudes.
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>>316361982
I said as much in the post, yes.
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People were going to complain no matter what monetization method they used. The only one people wanted was the Valve method of monetization, which no AAA dev ever uses because they don't have Steam as a fallback.
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>>316344093

>$60 game with cash shop.
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>>316344483
Your newfag ass probably don't even know that TF2 once upon a time was actually a paid game.
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>>316364113
I think skins in games are common at this point

I don't like you can't earn them by playing but skins are fine

Blizzard never confirm heroes in the shop but if they were add any it should be in expansion packs
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>>316364404
But there are skins in Overwatch you earn by playing.
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>>316364467
Then why is everyone complaining about the cash shop? Optional to pay or play for skins I don't see the problem in that
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of course they will.
Blizzdrones are kind of cute honestly. I remember reading the WoW forums back when they were expanding the in game cash shop.

>Before the cash shop was implemented
lol Blizzard will never put a cash shop in WoW as long as it has a subscription. Man that would be so greedy I would quit for sure. Those screenshots of the cash shop look fake link a source they wouldnt do that.

>Cash shop gets implemented
W-we've had a cash shop forever anyway its just been on the bnet website now they put it in game. Besides its just cosmetic stuff!! No one is forcing you to buy it! Blizzard will never start selling p2w stuff.

>Blizzard starts selling level 90 characters
leveling is boring anyway, its overpriced so people will be dissuaded from buying it. I-its not p2w.


How can you even blame Blizzard for being greedy fucks when their fanbase is so exploitable and retarded?
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>>316349330
DUZENTOS E CINQUENTA DILMAS! MEU CU QUE EU PAGO ESSA MERDA!
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>>316364567
Because this is /v/, and complaining is the only form of productivity here.
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>>316355675
They already said no CTF because Tracer was just too op in that mode.

Also I doubt they'll put in DM considering just how hard it died in TF2.
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>>316344514
wtf??
now we pay full price for all games, but our salarys are 10x shittier.

thanks Put_in
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>>316364613
The paid boost thing is kind of smart on Blizzards part, since people were selling pre-made high level characters back during vanilla. Now you can just get an official boosted character pretty much.

But Blizzard hasn't given a shit about leveling since WotLK, they've been adding ways to blow through it since with things like Heirlooms and recruit a friend bonuses. It's the flaw of themepark MMO design. Even FFXIV gimped the vanilla leveling experience so people could get to Heavensward faster.
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>>316364613
>leveling is boring anyway, its overpriced so people will be dissuaded from buying it. I-its not p2w.

They did that for ALTS. Yes, people new to the game can also use it, but the reason Blizzard implemented that was for people who make alts and want one or more of them to catch up to the latest material, especially if they've already played through everything else a dozen times already. And it's not "pay to win", you still have to play the last five or ten levels yourself and you can be a shitty retard the whole time.
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>>316344093
they defend diablo 3 Real money AH, what do you expect?
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There is always Dirty Bomb you guys!

;_;
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>>316364613
It's still not p2w, being that level boosts don't give you an advantage over other players that they can't obtain themselves.

That being said, its still bumfuck retarded to pay for level boosts, because you are paying to skip content on a game you are already paying for.
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>>316365010
>>316365064
They are literally selling max level characters in an MMO. Kill yourselves drones.
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>>316364567
Because that's unconfirmed and there's no reason to suspect that it is it the case, Anon is a retard.
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>>316365243
No, they are selling character levels at the starting point for their newest expansion.
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>>316344093
are Blizzard putting the game in steam/origin now?
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>>316361969
Sorry, I don't. Here's the full image, though. Hopefully that'll help.
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>>316344093
>full price multiplayer only game that will include microtransactions for cosmetics

This was going to be my first Blizzard game
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