So, did Blizzard just forget that Artanis' nerve cords were already cut?
>>316289794
They made him un-cut with surgery.
You can do that nowadays you know.
>>316289794
his model in BW was a DT model, they didn't have the time to make a model for templar.
how did we go from this...
>>316291575
...to this
>>316291684
WoW influenced, everything needs to fit the same style so you can recognize it as blizzard
>>316289794
Do they ever explain how Protoss breed?
There's been like a total of three female Protoss
>>316291317
Except his back story specifically mentioned that his nerve cords had been severed fighting the Zerg, which was why he was the perfect candidate to work with Dark Templar.
>>316289794
Also, why did they need to kill off the dark templar world? Why not just activate the xel'naga temple again instead of destroying the entire world. Seems at bit of an overkill and unnecessary
>>316294503
What would re-activating the Xel'naga temple do?
Shakuras has been over-run by zergs. Literally billions of them, and also count in hybrids.
>>316291575
Damn, he bulked up.
>>316293268
sauce?
>>316295484
That's what they used it for the first time. They used it to wipe the zerg off Shakuras because they followed them through the warp rift...
>>316289794
they grew back, duh
>>316289794
Since Mike "Coke me up mane" Morhaime is in charge of writing, you should not be surprised that he forgets his own fucking material.
>Raynor swears to kill Kerrigan for what she did in BW
>lol no he loves her awwwww what a nice love story!
>Mengsk loses everything he has and pulls all the favors he had in his unsuccessful attempt to kill Kerrigan in BW
>proceeds to be the biggest military force in the sector 4 years later
>in BW broods that don't have cerebrates go feral, that's why Kerrigan had to kill several broods
>lol no now Zerg hierarchy is just like Human or Protoss, with promotions n' shit. Plus all the contrived bullshit with PRIMAL FUCKING ZERG
>Tassadar sacrifices himself to kill the Overmind and stop the Zerg Scourge
>lol the Overmind was CORRUPTED and the Zergs dindu nuffin teehee
Awful, just fucking awful. I grew up with Starcraft and Broodwar and I loved every bit of the campaigns. The writing, the drama, the twists, they were all excellent. I was super excited for WoL and I couldn't wait to see how this universe will progress with this new installment. What we got on the other hand was one of the biggest disappointments I lived since I started playing video games. I am still mad about how Eidos fucked over Legacy of Kain and buried it under ground, but at least I have the bittersweet satisfaction of the awesome finale Defiance provided. Morhaime only provided a big steamy turd that shat on everything SC and BW stood for.
>>316292072
There's a female protoss unit available in the campaign.
>>316296876
>lol the Overmind was CORRUPTED and the Zergs dindu nuffin teehee
Why do you lie? It was specifially stated that the Overmind was fully in control,never corrupted or any such nonesense, but wanted to expand the Zerg enough to fight back, ensuring the Overmind's survival. Nothing more. It's still an evil being that wanted to consume everything regardless of the Xel'naga.
>>316294503
Well, Artanis mentions that it's hard as fuck working the temple without those special khaydarin crystals they used in BW.
But you know the whole planet blowing up is just Metzen trying to be poetic about forsaking old traditions and shit, don't look too deep into this shitty plot.
>>316297295
>fully in control
The Overmind itself says that he was enslaved and his only out was to create Kerrigan as a way to throw a monkeywrench into Amon's machine. Which not only it's retarded and totally ruins the Zerg backstory, but it's also unoriginal as fuck since if you replace the names above with Lich King, Arthas and Burning Legion you get the exact same thing.
>Kerrigan powers up in HoTS
>She powers up again in LoTV
So, in Starcraft 3 she should be ready to fight Perfect Amon, right?
StarCraft II shits all over StarCraft and Brood War. It's a fucking travesty.
>>316292072
>Do they ever explain how Protoss breed?
Well, when a boy protoss and a girl protoss love each other very much...
I mean, goddamn, have you seen Rohana's massive, childbearing hips? That's some purity of form right there.
Itty bitty titties, though.
>>316299425
Wide hips, thick thighs, and small tits are the perfect body type.
>>316297707
Considering the Xel-naga reveal in the epilogue this info is kinda unreliable. Since that space-Cthulhu pretended to be Tassadar he could have just lied to Zeratul about Overmind to make him less agitated towards Kerrigan. I know this is far fetched, but if Blizzard ever want to make Zerg villains again they'll probably pull this card.
>pre order this
>play the prologue a bit
>game won't even launch now, don't even get an error just "Sorry couldn't launch the game"
Wat
>>316299425
Best thing about Rohana are her alien chicken feet. I bet they are really soft since she always floats above the ground.
>>316297295
>It's still an evil being that wanted to consume everything regardless of the Xel'naga.
Are predators evil for killing to live? Is survival at all evil? The Overmind did what it must. It consumed because that was it's nature. There was no good or evil in StarCraft.
>>316300272
Except for Alarak. He's definitely evil.
>>316301385
He was the only entertaining character in LotV.
>>316299425
>small tits
>a con
Dude
>>316299548
This man right here is a genius
>>316299708
Are you on Windows 10?
Have you tried uninstall/reinstall?
Have you used the launcher and reset the game back to it's default settings?
>>316299708
run as admin
>>316299425
Got any other pictures of her? I'll draw her but I need more reference.
>>316297371
but... shakuras isn't the old traditions they're the new ones
>>316291684
More detail + armor and a bit more buff? Gee i dunno family
>>316303078
The whole Khalai and Nerazim separation is pretty old thing and half of the plot was about leaving behind old traditions like caste system, accepting those Nod-Protoss into the fold despite their cultural differences and stuff like that.
Can we talk about the epilogue ending for a bit? Can someone explain how in the fuck Kerrigan came back for Jim? Was that even real or was it just a delusion of his? Why do I have a feeling he just killed himself after realizing how shit his series became?
>>316303564
Well, she's a god now, she could have probably done whatever the fuck she wanted.
>>316303026
Just this one, right now.
>>316304392
And this .webm from the website.
>>316291870
Blizzard does seem to have a universal visual design for all of their games, and I don't particularly like it. Valve has DOTA 2, Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike, and Half Life and they all look completely distinct. Blizzard has Diablo, WoW, and Starcraft and you can't even tell which game a character belongs to.
I think I got the story of lotv
>templar = uncut Christians
>dark templar = Jews
>edgy protoss = muslims
> amon tries to control the protoss by infecting their foreskin
> jews not affected because they are already circumcised, muslims not effect because jihad
> in order to save themselves, the Christians must circumcise themselves.
>to make excuses for the loss of foreskin, they unite the other religions to make themselves look superior penis wise.
>killing amon was a bonus. The bastard should have think twice before infecting the foreskin.
Overall, a decent story.
>>316291008
Yeah
With a race that can put memories of dead people into robots, this seems plausible.
>>316304896
To be fair, once upon a time WC, SC and Diablo all had their own art styles. WC and SC were sort of similar until WC3 struck out into 3D but even then retained the overall design characteristics from WC1 and WC2.
But yeah, at some point when the last shred of Old Blizzard was lost to time and the Neo Blizzard transformation was complete everything got the "WoW" treatment. Flat textures, soft edges and a vaguely illustrated style. It's pretty awful since that style may fit the new direction that Warcraft took with WoW but it sure as shit doesn't fit Starcraft or Diablo.
Overwatch is a weird clash of different styles but overall retains that "WoW" look in the proportions and flatness of textures.
>>316305386
>killing amon
Hahahah, no. He'll be back in Worlds of StarCraft as a raid boss.Not even kidding.
So, what's your preferred unit combination in the campaign?
>respawning robo-Zealots for maximum worth
>dragoons
>warp-sphere emulating sentries
>big deeps nerazim immortals
>edgy red voidrays
>>316309061
>being tal'darim scum
>>316309358
It's not my fault they have coolest void rays.
>SC2 will never have factions for every army in mp a la RA2 because it gotta stay serious gookclick no fun allowed ever
>>316291575
>>316291684
nice gains
>>316295654
no source because here on /v/ we tell stories about heresay and make it up as we go along to further our resolve
This board is always fucking autistic when it comes to Starcraft lore
>>316301385
Alarak is hilarious
>>316311975
>>316295654
Broodwar's manual.
>>316303204
what do you mean by family
...
I finished LOTV yesterday.
I loved the Original and BW, but SC2's campaigns blew them out of the water for me.
I loved the ending of LOTV, and I'm very happy with the way Starcraft's story has ended.
Say what you must.
>>316313737
It's ok anon, denial is always the first step.
>>316313737
That's cool, bro. I wish they'd gone another way with the story. Now I just moan and complain on /v/. You win. I'm sure there a lot more like you than me.
>>316313970
Actually I forgot one thing.
Story aside, I vastly prefer the gameplay of SC2's campaigns, much more variety in general.
In BW, the Zerg campaign was just
>Defend your base
>Destroy the enemy base
>Get 10,000 minerals to destroy the enemy bases
>Destroy the enemy base
>Destroy the enemy base (with a five minute headstart)
>Destroy the enemy base (and some scientists)
>Destroy the enemy base
>Destroy the enemy base (and the Overmind)
>Destroy the enemy base (in 30 mins)
>Destroy the enemy base
>>316314176
I don't hate people that think it's shit, it's not perfect, I'll say that much. Just me personally, I loved it.
>>316313737
Whatever works for you. I liked the toss campaign mainly for the gameplay and establishing all the different toss factions, I didn't like the epilogue in the slightest though gameplay and story.
Someone spoil me
what happens to kerrigan and raynor
I'd love to play StarCraft with StarCraft II's mission design.
>>316314509
Kerrigan somehow turns back human and she and Raynor live happily ever after.
No joke.
ORDER ME... TO WAR
>>316314509
they lived happily ever after
>>316314509
Kerrigan eats a benevolent space Cthulhu, goes super sayan and fights an evil space Cthulhu. Then she turns back into human and walks away together with Rainor into the sunset. Everyone lives happily ever after.
>>316314612
>>316314675
>>316314734
Well then.
>>316289794
Don't forget the fact they reconnect him into the executor
>getting demoted for leading charge against your species arch nemesis
>>316314612
Actually that's probably Raynor in the afterlife. The bar was surrounded by light, dog.
>>316314734
>>316314675
>>316314612
that can't be real
really?
all that dramatic build up and that's what they do with it?
>>316314509
Basically? MASSIVE SPOILERS
>Kerrigan becomes a God and kills Amon
Two years later:
>The Dominion is now a great place for humanity to live in, and Emperor Valerian and Admiral Horner say everything is A-OK
>Zagara inherits the swarm, but out of respect for the Terrans and Protoss, goes and conquers unsettled planets for the Zerg to live on
>The Protoss rebuild on Aiur and live as a single people, except for the Tal'darim, who leave on good terms with everyone else to do their own thing
>Jim Raynor goes back to being a Marshall on Mar Sara, until one day Kerrigan finds him in Joey Ray's and takes him up to Heaven with here
AND THEY ALL LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER
Oh, also, you may not want to read this butZeratul was killed on Aiur.
>>316315127
It's completely 100% real. The campaign literally ends with all three races going into the void and fighting the evil Cthulu overlords and then Kerrigan becomes a god and then they win.
>>316314734
What's the point being made? Everyone assumed something dumb was bound to happen regarding Kerrigan. Do you know how many posts were made about Kerrigan and Artanis merging together? Or that all along Kerrigan was Xel'naga and she was the chosen one or some shit but really Ouros chose her because she was just the strongest being in the galaxy (which was already established in BW)
It could've gone so much worse but it didn't.
>>316315123
It says in the Epilogue that Raynor went missing and was never seen again, and all they found was the badge he left at the bar.
>>316315123
it was all a dream
>>316315245
You can't make up this shit
>>316315296
It was so fucking crazy I wasn't sure I was still playing Starcraft. I woke up the next morning like "Did I dream that?".
The Terran level was pretty weak as fuck compared to the WOL Finale.
No offense but I was expecting a badass holdout to the death.
Zagara's line never collapsed, and Artanis' line only crumbled when Kerrigan was already at 94% so I didn't really have to do shit.
>>316315127
Yeah, that's it. It felt like they didn't have enough money for a proper end so they awkwardly slapped a really hastily made epilogue on top of a somewhat decent toss campaign.
>>316315331
But they establish during the toss campaign that the strongest, best specimen of the 'pure' races can ascend into the Xel-Nagahood. Kerrigan isn't even a real Zerg (considering events of HotS I guess she kinda is, after becoming true feral zerg and shit). It could as well be Artanis, but Blizzard decided to do the whole Kerrigan redemption thing because she's a popular character.
I don't know why they can't understand that sometimes people like villains for being villains and don't really want to see them "redeemed".
>>316315245
nooooo!! spoileeeeerrs
>>316315245
Zeratul dying was probably the best part.
>>316315654
don't play on normal, then
but yeah the defense in protoss campaign finale was harder
>>316315245
Can't say I'm too surprised, but eh
I'll get around to playing it one of these days
>>316315860
>don't play on normal
Yeah fair enough I guess, that's always my first playthrough.
Fuck, the Last Stand at the temple mission is going to be fucking awful on Brutal.
>>316315654
Is that literally just the same as the last mission of Reign of Chaos?
>>316315720
Blizzard doesn't understand a great many things like: if you have your WoW team work on another game, it's just going to look and feel like WoW.
This is what happened to Diablo. Now, it's what happened to Star Craft.
Co-op mode is fun as fuck.
>>316316035
No it's very different, I just explained it very basically.
Though, you remind me of the time I finished it without the cheap invincible/mine exploit and I managed to save the Orcs.
>>316316035
No, there are actually two missions which are the same as reign of chaos finale. One of them is all the factions of the Protoss defending the artifact and one of them is all three races defending Kerrigan.
Repeat. Reuse. Recycle.
>Artanis was just some punkass Tassadar fanboy when he first appeared, chilling in his little aircraft and begging the Executor to do all the heavylifting
>Now he's Protoss Jesus and even does Zealot shit too
What happened
I've still got my manual for the original StarCraft. Reading through the story section, I'm struck by just how much they had to completely throw out to make Legacy of the Void work.
>>316316285
I don't know, but I'm glad it did.
I haven't played Starcraft since Brood Wars. Can someone explain why Kerrigan isn't evil anymore? I'm confused.
>>316316243
I wish it was like Chaos Rising finale, that one was actually cool. Instead they were more like final Undead mission.
>>316316413
Metzen's mental gymnastics made the orcs, I mean zerg not evil because of corruption.
>>316316413
Jimmy uses the xel'naga keystone to de-zerg her at the end of the terran campaign.
Then she re-zergs herself in the zerg campaign because of reasons. But now she's good.
>>316316413
Raynor used a Xel Naga artifact to purify her so she turned human. Then she turned back into Zerg until she found some Xel Naga ruins and altered her DNA to become part Xel Naga. Now that she's 33% human 33% zerg and 33% Xel Naga, she is good for some reason.
>>316316532
>Chaos Rising finale
you want to fight a non-threatening boss who has so much health it takes 2 hours to kill him?
>>316316413
Well you know
stuff
>>316316220
That mission is insane on hard without cheesing. If you end up as the only base left with some time decent time remaining, there's going to be a wave of 10+ infernals and the Dreadlord
>>316316668
>>316316632
>>316316534
That's fucking convoluted but I guess as long as it's explained?
>>316316779
It's not.
>>316316779
No the word you're looking for is "retarded"
>>316316749
>Raynor didn't shoot Kerrigan and go grab some beer with Tychus at the end of WoL.
Story ruined.
>>316316413
Retcons.
After Overmind died she didn't regain her original free will, instead she stayed "corrupted" by evil zerg genetics. In first SC2 episode she's purified by Rainor that is wildly in love with her now for some reason, in second one she goes back to being a zerg, but a good pure zerg this time (pure zergs are a noble savage culture btw, they good boys and dindu naffin), in third one she eats a god and kills Chtulhu. Also the plot introduces a PROPHECY about an ANCIENT EVIL AWAKENING (same guy that made zerg evil btw) and Kerrigan being the only being able to defeat it.
>>316291008
it's true
http://www.foregen.org/
>>316316779
It's about as much of an explanation as anything gets in this game.
Pretty sure they forgot almost everything and just made shit up on the spot.
>>316316926
Yeah, really. The dude turned his back on his bro4lyfe for some alien bitch that he didn't even have sex with once.
>>316316943
It sounds like they made her into Thrall.
>>316316676
Fug, I was sleepy and mistyped, I obviously meant Reign of Chaos. It was cool how you needed to desperately defend your allies from the onslaught of the undead and daemons coming from one side. Trying to keep up defences on 3 sides at the same time is just less fun and more annoying.Ulkair didn't even take that long to kill if you took the Avitus lascannon to the fight
I just finished Legacy of the Void.
The only time I have felt angrier about StarCraft was after reading Liberty's Crusade.
And I was very angry about that.
>>316296876
I feel the same, anon.
I usually just don't care, but SC2 made me rage like no other game before. I was butthurt when I played it at release. I'm still butthurt. My ass will forever be sore at what happened to SC.
>>316316749
It's been a long time, but were Jim and Kerrigan an item in StarCraft 1? I remember Kerrigan called out for Jim when she was in the Zerg chrysalis, but that's about all.
You speak of knowledge, Judicator? You speak of experience? I have journeyed through the darkness between the most distant stars. I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities... Unto my experience, Aldaris, all that you've built here on Aiur is but a fleeting dream. A dream from which your precious Conclave shall awaken, finding themselves drowned in a greater nightmare.
>>316317373
They flirted once if I remember right.
>>316317167
Thrall is tame compared to the amount of Mary Sue bullshit that is shoved into Kerrigan
>>316316479
>I'm actually sorry you have to deal with the bitching.
Hey no, don't be.
I'm not some SJW faggot, people are allowed to have different opinions to me, whether I like it or not.
>>316316749
To be fair, that was four years ago.
I mean, in the story.
I'm gonna catch some serious heat for this, but I'm gonna say it.
Raynor changing how he felt about Sarah was not a totally out-of-nowhere-makes-no-sense thing.
People seem to forget that there was a four year gap between BW's end and WOL's start. It wasn't a four day gap, it was a four year gap.
A lot can happen in four years, a lot can change.
Raynor was on the run for four years, fighting a losing war against the Dominion, his chances of success growing slimmer and slimmer everyday. Over that time things got really bad for Raynor. He turned back to the drink, sinking into alcoholism. Maybe he started thinking about his family, the wife and son he'd lost. Maybe he started thinking about how foolish he'd been to be tricked by Arcturus. Maybe he started thinking about Kerrigan before, on Antiga (where they were for six months IIRC). Maybe he started thinking how none of this would've happened if Kerrigan hadn't been turned, if Arcturus hadn't betrayed, if he'd just been able to do something. Maybe that hatred he felt about Fenix's death (no disrespect, but he only knew Fenix for about a month or two, they were hardly old friends) slowly simmered away into a mixture of profound regret, at how everything had gone so badly and how it all was. Maybe he just missed the way things were before, the way Kerrigan was before. Maybe he just longed to have that back, to wish for any way, any way at all, to make things right. Maybe those thoughts overcame what he said on Korhal, what he said in a brief fit of anger.
I honestly feel that it was a bit of a stretch to say he loved her, but anyone who honestly can't understand how his feelings could've changed probably needs more human interaction in their lives.
Why don't they exterminate the Zerg?
>Protoss united for first time in millenia
>Terrans free of infighting for the first time since early Confederacy
>both factions are now allied
>Zerg are at their weakest ever. Kerrigan states there is fuck all of them left
>led by Zagara. No Kerrigan or Overmind to save them this time
>>316299708
That'a what you get for pirating the game ;)
>>316316534
speaking of corruption
can we get a list of all the metzen 'plot forwarding' corrupted characters?
>>316317417
Not even. There was some mild sexual tension in some of the dialogue.
But between that and the way Raynor reacted to her "death" and subsequent rebirth, it was enough to solidify the impression that there was something going on between missions, off-screen.
It was actually a really effective method of character development. Show, don't tell, what the characters mean to each other.
>>316317553
You really think Raynor didn't get laid even once in those 4 years?
>>316317609
They good boys they dindu nuffin
>they aren't even led by a "good" primal zerg, Zagara is one of the old zerg "corrupted" by Sargeras
>my nigga Stukov isn't even mentioned, even though he'd probably be a better leader and the one that can actually work diplomacy with the humans
>>316317609
Because the Zerg are a species of peace!
>>316304896
>Valve has DOTA 2, Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike, and Half Life
Half life and TF2 are really the only onse they designed
>>316315405
I remember joking with friends about extremely retarded shit that Blizzard could do to the campaign. They were all in line with shit like that.
It's good to know that I'm at the level of a billion dollar company when it comes to this.
>>316317402
Zeratul is best hero.
>>316317782
Getting laid =/ developing an interest in someone, believe me.
>>316317701
the whole Protoss race (except for dark templars) for starters
>>316317824
Broodmothers were created by Kerrigan, not Sargeras
>>316317402
The end of that makes me think of the gorilla warfare copypasta.
>>316317609
because that's reserved for Starcraft 3: Death of the Zerg
Followed by.
Starcraft 3: Revival of the Zerg
>>316318028
But she was still corrupted when she created them.
>>316318002
Regardless, the only reason he would consider not finishing off Kerrigan is if he was so sex starved that his dick told him not to. Because his brain was sure as shit not telling him to spare her.
>>316318070
>Starcraft 3 being about evil racist terrans attacking good boy zergs for no reason
>>316318028
So we got Kerrigan
The protoss
Orcs
Garrosh
who else? I'm blanking pretty badly right now, Ive been playing nonstop MH4
>>316317373
They flirted a bit and you also get the vibe zerg Kerrigan holds back against Raynor. I think she even let's him leave in one mission. It's not outright said but she clearly loves him.
>>316296876
Personally I really like the idea that Raynor's love for Kerrigan was stronger than his desire for revenge. It talks about the very nature of humans, how love blinds their judgement but its also the reason why humankind is different than the protoss or zerg.
And dere kerrigan in HOTS is goat.
What if Amon was actually corrupted?
>>316318265
Also, Raynor was pretty deep in the bottle by the time we see him again in Wings of Liberty. He actually has his moment of clarity during the campaign.
>>316309061
>Robo zealots
>Carriers for the retarded repairs
>Purifier colossus
>Taldarim imba havoc for max range
>Supplement with dragoons and taldarim immortal
have the emergency shield so that units don't get killed allowing your carriers to heal them back to full, havocs for max range colossus as well as the extra damage on tougher hybrid
Nothing ever dies.
My children, the hour of our victory is at hand. For upon this world of Aiur shall we incorporate the strongest known species into our fold. Then shall we be the greatest of creation's children. We shall be... Perfect.
>>316318246
Demons in Diablo, obviously.
>>316304896
Blizzard lost all of it's talent years ago.
>>316317553
Mate, she didn't do some mistakes or dumb shit.
She fucking betrayed him and his friends, killed plenty of them, and simply used them all to her advantage while being completely conscious of what she was doing. It wasn't a "oh my I got drunk and fugged your best friend", or "I used you or your friends for my own gains but didn't majorly screwed you up". Her actions resulted in the deaths of millions and she did it all on purpose.
Nobody "gets over" that kind of shit. I could believe if the writing was believable instead of DBZ in space instead of "T-they love each other!". And I even read the god damn novels where they explore a bit of their relationship.
>>316318228
it's neither evil nor racist if they're not terran
>>316309061
>corsair
>dark templar
That is all you need to win.
>>316317609
Why don't they exterminate the Horde?
>Kirin Tor and the mages at your side
>King of Stormwind has finally returned
>The Scourge is no longer a threat
>Ogrimar is under siege
>The Horde is led by Garosh and not Green Jesus
>>316318425
Alright, how about just singular plot focused characters. Never played Diablo 3 so all I know are: the wander, blood raven, The worldstone?
But wasnt D2 before metzen took over writing? I'm pretty sure he was still an artist
>People sit around worrying about starcraft story
>>316314436
The gameplay was shit
>You found the enemy base, please bro don't go and destroy it
>Dude please, really, don't destroy the enemy bases, even though that's generally the whole fucking point please just leave the bases and go do the objectives, please dude
Some of the missions were retarded as well as the units they give you, the mission where you get phoenixes for example where phoenixes are entirely useless (yea phoenix vs terran and protoss, brilliant Blizz!)
Or those fucking retarded "hints"
>Dude bro, builds cannons to defend your base dude
>Oh oops, cannons literally don't do shit because the enemy attacks with tanks/colossus/carriers/battlecruisers/hybrid that disable turrets
>But dude bro wait, you have those stronger turrets (that actually deal fuck all for actual dps, cost far too much and take up too much space)
Fuck off, turrets and defensive structures are a complete waste of resources considering what the missions throw at you.
>>316318621
Because Blizzard cut Varian's balls off. I'm surprised the horde leadership didn't start laughing in this pussy's face.
>>316317824
>>316318028
>Sargeras
what
>>316318767
you know, the fallen one
>>316317417
The starcraft book kinda explains their backstory. They never really got "into" a deep relationship and yes there was a little subtle flirting but nothing like "holy shit lets fugggggg".
Other than that, they respected each other and because of the way kerrigan is now she mainly just fucks with raynor and raynor wants no part of it. He misses kerrigan from before the whole shit hitting fan moment but he "wasn't" happy with her now. Not sure of anything in SC2, just SC1 and Broodwar + the book.
Last I recall the book was canon unless they scrapped it so who knows.
I'm sure others here can give a better detailed explanation if you're looking for more..
I believe this book is the one. http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft:_Liberty's_Crusade
I hold nothing as 100% as this was ages ago when I read this so don't take anything I say correctly. I just remember small tidbits.
>>316318579
Raynor could've rationalised that away to himself with a simple "Oh, that wasn't really Kerrigan, the Kerrigan I know, that was Infested Possesed Kerrigan".
Remember, the issue isn't "What I would do knowing the whole situation of Starcraft", it's What Raynor would do knowing only what he does.
>>316318767
A God from Warcraft lore that was corrupted until they reconnected it so he became the one corrupting people, until they reconnected that again and he was again corrupted
>>316318904
I hated that book so much. It read like something off of fanfiction.net, with the original character (do not steal!) who everyone loves and is at the center of all the big events from the game.
>>316316413
Love changes people, it's a powerful thing.
>>316319028
>>316318854
but isn't he from warcraft universe?they're the same universe arent they
Fellow Terrans, I come to you in the wake of recent events to issue a call to reason. Let no human deny the perils of our time. While we battle one another, divided by the petty strife of our common history, the tide of a greater conflict is turning against us, threatening to destroy all that we have accomplished. It is time for us as nations and as individuals to set aside our long-standing feuds and unite! The tides of an unwinnable war are upon us, and we must seek refuge upon higher ground, lest we be swept away by the flood.
The Confederacy is no more. Whatever semblance of unity and protection it once provided is a phantom; a memory. With our enemies left unchecked, who will you turn to for protection? The devastation brought by the alien invaders is self-evident. We have seen our homes and communities destroyed by the calculated blows of the Protoss. We have seen first-hand our friends and loved ones consumed by the nightmarish Zerg. Unprecedented and unimaginable though they may be, these are the signs of our time.
The time has come, my fellow Terrans, to rally to a new banner. In unity lies strength; already many of the dissident factions have joined us. Out of the many, we shall forge an indivisible whole, capitulating only to a single throne. And from that throne, I shall watch over you!
From this day forward, let no human make war upon any other human. Let no Terran agency conspire against this new beginning. And let no man consort with alien powers. And to all the enemies of humanity, seek not to bar our way, for we shall win through, no matter the cost!
>>316319146
No, but they may as well be.
All Blizzard storylines summarized in three words: "There are Demons!"
>>316319223
I MADE YOU A MONSTER
>>316319093
I read it when I was 12-13 but I enjoyed it then. Dunno about now so I may agree with you if I were to read it again. I completely forgot about "liberty" being the main guy in the book as well.
Now looking into it, apparently he's in SC2 as well. Huh...alrighty then.
I wish Valve would get all the licensing to Blizzard games, or maybe Obsidian or somebody so we could get actual proper games.
>>316316943
Don't forget this was all foretold in ancient prophecy, murals of Kerrigan included.
>>316318743
Pandaria was such a fucking retarded expansion
what and how do protoss eat?
Honest question.
never was into lore of SC..
>>316317402
I really wish his VA didn't die before SC2 came out and Blizzard had time to record his lines
>>316319146
They've got the same backstory essentially
>a member of ancient group of gods that make worlds and species and shit
>becomes evil and wants to destroy everything because reasons
>uses corrupted species to achieve his goals
I'm honestly slightly surprised we only got one proper void demon in LotV. It felt lazy how he was just shitting out ghost versions of normal units.
>>316319345
He gets mentioned once in passing, I think. He might've appeared on one of the news reports.
>>316319347
Seems like that was Obsidian's job. Come in when shit gets retarded and save the franchise.
Too bad they have their own funding now since that means they'll never pick up someone else's franchise ever again.
>>316319408
Photosynthesis.
Post yfw you played as Artanis in the original game's protoss campaign
>>316308187
>worlds of starcraft
I would pay good money to have old blizzard make this similar to that new warhammer mmo coming out. Would be great to have a starcraft mmo, not an rpg. just an mmo where players battle it out for control of planets etc.
>>316319223
I loved the writing in the SC and BW. It was kinda cheesy, but good.
So basically Raynor, who hated Kerrigan, decided to save her instead of making good on his vow to murder her, and went to incredible efforts to purify her. Then Kerrigan went back to being corrupted again for reasons despite all of Raynor's efforts to purify her, flies to this super special planet full of noble gene devouring monsters who dindu nuffin 'till the ebil oberlard corrupted them. These primal zerg somehow look exactly the same as regular zerg except with more pointy bits, even though regular zerg are made from species extracted from other planets and the primal zerg are explicitly said to have remain isolated on their own planet. Then in Legacy of the Void, Kerrigan becomes God to fight space Cthulhu, then uncorrupts herself again and Raynor tries to get some of that alien pussy.
>>316316943
This sounds like a huge gigantic clusterfuck just to make a cliche "LOOK EVERYONE IS HOLDING HANDS!" ending.
I'm waiting for the starcraft 2 battlechest for 30 bucks so I can just snatch all 3 at once.
>>316319703
Yep, this should be the back-of-the-box summary of SC2.
>>316318153
Dude, love is more powerful than sex.
It's the single most important thing that fuels humans.
>>316319718
It's a huge clusterfuck made for the sake of "redeeming" Kerrigan. The question is why they fuck Blizzard felt that she needed redemption in the first place. She was a beloved character because she was a cunning backstabbing bitch.
>>316319534
And now, ironically, they made a setting/game that is so god damn awful it needs saving, or would that be salvaging considering how much of a disaster PoE was...
>>316319703
You could copy paste this shit into a SC2 manual and it would fit perfectly.
>>316318153
b-but muh zeratul prophecy
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wglwiE6.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
ZERG! The very mention of this terrifying race once brought fear to all who heard it. But now we can all rest easy as our own forces now occupy their very home world of Char.
Months have passed since our initial confrontation with the Zerg and now Directorate forces have taken control of the planet Char, long since rumored to cradle the malevolent Overmind of the Zerg. The Overmind itself -- an enormous, living brain-like entity -- dictates control of all the myriad Zerg forces, and it was believed to be planning an invasion of the Earth itself. Once on the offensive, our highly-trained Directorate forces were more than a match for the beast-like Zerg. Even their fiercest warrior breed could not defeat the greatest military technology in the galaxy. The Zerg forces on Char were completely decimated, and their losses were tallied in the millions.
But all wars have casualties, and, while Directorate losses were minimal, the fleet's Vice Admiral Stukov gave his life during the final valiant assault on Char. Memorial services were held aboard the Directorate flagship Aleksander. Vice Admiral Stukov truly knew the meaning of sacrifice.
Yet, his sacrifice was not in vain; the Overmind itself was the prize of the battle. Even now, Directorate psychics and powerful drugs are keeping the creature pacified. The Overmind will undergo extensive research to ensure the continued safety of the United Earth Directorate and of all Mankind!
>>316319906
>The question is why they fuck Blizzard felt that she needed redemption in the first place
Waifu bait, same reason they are now trying to absolve Sylvanas of her crimes
>>316316943
>After Overmind died she didn't regain her original free will, instead she stayed "corrupted" by evil zerg genetics
what do you mean by this? the overmind dieing should not have any effect on kerrigan, she was made to be independent.
>>316319906
>She was a beloved character because she was a cunning backstabbing bitch.
This. I fucking loved the Queen of Blades.
>>316319347
>Valve
>making games
>>316319703
Did they ever bother to explain why Mengsks zerg-killing Dalaran magic bubble thing hurt Kerrigan after she became feral zerg and feral zerg were supposed to be unaffected?
>>316320108
yeah the xel'naga keystone is the most powerful plot device in the universe
it can do ANYTHING
>>316320108
The magic bubble fries zerg by overloading their psionics, Kerrigan still has those. The Primal Zerg don't.
>>316320228
Yea that shit got retarded quick, I mean now it's the magical plot device that'll somehow purify the protoss as well? Eh... great?
>>316312358
What page? I just looked up Artanis' bio and it doesn't say anything about severed cords.
>>316320108
It was an orphaned plot device from an earlier draft of the story. Originally, Mengsk had a Kerrigan clone that was somehow psioncally linked to Kerrigan, herself. Zapping the clone zapped Kerrigan. She appears in the leaked ending for Heart of the Swarm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkX4Yt4ek8
Dearest Helena,
By now, the news of our defeat has reached the Earth. The creatures we were sent here to tame are untameable, and the colonies we were sent to reclaim have proven to be stronger than we anticipated.
Whatever you may hear about what has happened out here, know this: Alexei did not die gloriously in battle. I killed him ― My pride killed him. And now my pride has consumed me as well.
You will never see me again, Helena.
Tell our children that I love them, and that their father died in defense of their future.
Au Revoir.
>>316319996
Alexei should have stayed dead.
And SC2 fucking ruined the voices of everything.
>>316320281
Isn't it supposed to work specifically with Void energies? They mention it in LotV - that it initially purified Kerrigan by sucking out all the void corruption out of her and then using it do fuel Sargeras somehow.
>>316320314
The Keystone basically emprisoned Amon's presence in the Khala for a bit(or until it broke through) but Protoss has to severe their nerves or they'd immediately get controlled as soon as Amon is out.
>>316320508
> void corruption
This is actually a thing in StarCraft now?
>>316320459
It was retarded either way
>Big problem is a big problem
>Have a magical plot device that can completely take her out
>Let's wait to use it until after she's destroyed literally my entire empire (again)
Come to think of it, I can remember a ton of memorable lines from people like DuGalle, Raynor, Arcturus, Zeratul, Duran, Kerrigan, and Tassadar from Starcraft 1.
When I think of quotes from SC2, all that comes to mind is TIDINGS OF DOOM.
>>316320610
Sure. "Void" is essentially warp from 40k now. They open portal to it in the epilogue in LotV to go there and fight Cthulhu because he's imprisoned there and will eventually come back. It has it's own daemons and shit too.
>>316320508
It also made zerg completely explode (WoL), and is used to isolate Amon from the Khala (LotV), and is used to taze Kerrigan at the press of a button.(HotS)
>>316320525
Because apparently, it can do that too!
>>316320714
I remember the scene where Kerrigans complain that her hair got too zerg while she's hanging out with Raynor.
It was cute.
>>316320480
Campaign power rankings
1. Terran BW
2. Protoss SC1
3. Terran SC1
4. Protoss BW
5. Zerg SC1
6. Zerg BW
>>316320459
Holy SHIT. I can't believe there was actually some kind of oversight in this plot design... we may never know the depths of retardation from which the current shitty writing was rescued from.
>>316320049
Dota 2, CS:GO, Left 4 Dead, Portal 2, TF2, what are those?
>>316320816
I'd say Blizzard is creatively bankrupt, but I don't think anyone needs to point it at out now.
>>316320829
and also shows the way to the xel'naga world because why not
>>316319669
>warhmmer mmo
The what. Eternal Crusade is fucking dead and buried. The Dark Millenium died with THQ. The only Warhammer MMO existing is return of reckoning fan project.
>>316320865
I'm okay with this.
>>316320816
Blizzard has basically reached peak 40k at this point. I've been defending StarCraft as its own work able to stand on its own merits for seventeen years, already. I'm fucking done.
>>316320000
Quads have spoken.
Sylvanas will be a goody two shoes in the next arc.
>>316320829
Well, the Khala thing can be explained with the Keystone sucking out Amon's void corruption out of the protoss on Aiur, allowing them to sever the nerve chords. I don't know how to explain the Kerrigan stun though.
>Prepare yourself, Cerebrate. Your first jump through warp space could be... unsettling.
>>316320872
Still better then the rape the Warcraft lore is going through
>>316320948
Polished mods, anon, not even joking.
>>316320973
And lets not forget it's also supposed to be used to awaken the Xel'naga
Do they mention the Cerebrates in passing even once in SC2?
>>316321124
Yes. Kerrigan killed them all;_;
>>316309061
Stalkers and those Tal'darim immortals, and dump minerals into Dark Templar zealots (centurions I think they're called?"
The one solitary thing I liked about the campaign is that the Tal'darim got transformed from mindless cultists into the Old Republic Sith. Naturally I switched all of my units to the Tal'darim counterparts after that.
>>316301385
he was coldsteel the edgehog and it was awesome
>>316321124
Yeah, that Kerrigan killed them all and replaced them with brood queens.
>>316321076
Not as unsettling as looking at your face Daggoth
What the fuck have we let this become
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4GbGmvNRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZndkKew65Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9MqInsKyf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHjuJaqk_DU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTLv8Uzczno
>>316321258
His voice acting made him 1000x better.
>>316318265
>>316318358
>>316296876
guys what if raynor got mind fucked by kerrigan
i mean does he even have any psi resistance or something, kerrigan very easily could've just forced jimmy to love her and forget his anger towards herthis is just my theory and i know the writing is retarded
>>316321298
Get it right, young cerebrate, I am Zasz
>>316321108
The last Warcraft game I played was 3. I have a hard time believing that it's shittier than what happened to SC.
Then again, this is Blizzard.
>>316321124
Apparently they were removed to make Starcraft less like 40k
No, I don't think anyone knows how that makes sense
>>316321108
I'd want to disagree, but I don't think even LotV's complete retardation can top "Garrosh travels back in time to an alternate timeline and unites the horde without drinking the demon blood, then he makes a portal back so he can invade modern Azeroth while he doesn't even control his own shit yet" I mean, how could anything be worse than that shit?
So glad I stopped that abomination very early in Cataclysm, which was already after it had gone full retard with "durrr mast alwuys be a Luch Keng" and "He was doing it all to make the worlds strongest fighting force, he couldn't do this after killing and mind-controlling you for... reasons..."
>>316321298
That's Zasz you fool.
>>316321119
And yet, those polished mods are 100x better than the shit Blizzard has pushed out.
>>316309061
mass void rays buttfuck everything, especially the edgy red ones
>>316321417
>I have a hard time believing that it's shittier than what happened to SC.
Warcraft now has time-travel and a multi-verse
Wonder if those Nova DLC missions will be based on what was going to be in Ghost.
>>316321557
Jesus fucking Christ. I'd call you a lying faggot if I didn't know any better by this point.
>>31632150
Not about to argue with that, but that's hardly Valve making games, which was the point. Portal 2 is the last game they made.
>>316321206
I liked Taldarim immortals, but that ability on Nerazim immortals was way too stronk to pass on. It could be used on air units too.
Nerazim zealots were cool too, I used them before I got the robo ones and switched just because two-use cannon fodder is better than one. Robo zealots are healed by that repairing passive too.
>>316289794
Honestly, without the epilogue LotV was only half/three quarters retard. That epilogue though, holy shit.Super twist is that all of SC2 is a dream Jim is having at the Mar Sara bar while drunk.
>>316302326
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
>>316318621
Because the Aliiance on it's own cannot stand against the true big baddies, the Burning Legion.
Besides, as mch as people would like to aruge, at that moment it would have been fucking retarded to try to behead the Horde.
Thrall alone can hold against Jaina and in the same room you got the other 5 leaders of the Horde.
Nigga's not dumb
>>316321691
Better, Jim got high on mineral harvesting while dragoon Fenix is still around trying to make jokes with a group of marines.
>>316321316
he's the only protoss who doesn't speak in all caps
>>316321691
>Super twist is that all of SC2 is a dream Jim is having at the Mar Sara bar while drunk.
After that, we get the REAL sequel to BW.
I would cry tears of joy.
I don't know why everyone bitches about Raynor not blowing Kerrigan's head off at the first opportunity. Zeratul showed up on his ship and said "don't kill her, or really bad shit happens".
>>316321720
Jaina could have wiped Ogrimmar off the map then and there, she was persuaded not to by Kalcegos
This is canon
>>316321942
Pretty much this. The only way Raynor's about face regarding Kerrigan makes sense is if you play through all of Zeratul's visions in Wings of Liberty AND all of the corresponding conversations with Tosh while he tries to process his feelings about them.
After that, saving Kerrigan makes sense.
>>316321837
Nah man, there's also Kerax the MVP. Literally every other protoss is like:
>FOR HONOR AND GLORY I SHALL CLENSE THIS PLANE FROM THE VILE BLIGHT OF THE SWARM
And Kerax is like:
>Hey check it out I made these cool robot arms, upgraded your robots, made the core increase its capacity and installed gentoo on the mainframe! Good luck out there!
So, we hope you have enjoyed the remastered version of Mass Effect 3 and hope that this unique RTS gameplay has inspired you to take a look back on all we've done in the past!
En Taro Shepard, friends.
>>316317934
They did all of the designs for Dota 2 and CS GO though family.
>>316317934
He's talking about artstyle you dumbass.
fuck off I don't care if this reply is late
>>316321942
People bitch at Blizzard for writing the game this way. Introducing an ancient prophecy and retarded Sargeras clone to the story just for the sake of redeeming Kerrigan and making her the main hero instead of the main villain.
>>316322118
Also, he has a beard.
>>316321957
So she didn't just have a lady boner for Thrall?
>>316322118
>Kerax the MVP
I lost all respect I had for the guy when I saw his motherfucking walking animation.
>>316321942
Everyone bitches about ~prophecies~ too you know. Just because something is justified in game doesn't make it good, especially when that justification is contrived and lame itself.
And at the very least he could have acted like he was choosing the lesser of two evils (again) and not like he was saving his long lost love.
>>316322163
Except Sargeras isn't even the worst big bad right? There's still the bunch of Old Gods.
>>316322131
T-Thanks Blizzard
