Are people really this sensitive to leaks?
>>315823069
Companies are because you're fucking with their marketing. And I don't even just mean showing off if the game is shit or whatever. Typically pre-release has a planned hype train marketing schedule that will drip out enough information over time to keep people interested in the game. On top of that there are also things like content embargos where everyone is given a fair shot at providing content for the game, videos, reviews, screenshots, etc. With leaks you are getting an "unfair advantage" by producing content before other companies can, which is also potentially a crime (unfair competition law).
It's a big deal for a number of reasons.
If the game is particularly shitty, the last thing companies want is footage out there showing people how shitty it is.
Hines already said that the ending be spoiled didn't matter, what mattered is ~*our experience*~, making the game our own, and that nothing could take that away from us.
So why are they so desperate to take down streams? If plot spoilers don't matter, they must want to hide something else.
Like this maybe I don't know
>>315823792
Companies don't want people to actually be informed about games.
>>315823069
In Bethesda's case they really don't want people to see how shitty the game is. They need this to sell on hype alone.
>>315825073
This
Welcome to corporate America.
Let's face it, they know it's shit. There's a fucking embargo on their embargo.
>you can put your review out on the 9th
>you can tell people when your review will be out on the 6th
This is some next-level damage control.
>>315824926
I'm guessing the only reason that anyone said something like that was because the ending was leaked like a week ago.
But I also have no idea when that person said that, so I can't prove anything.
>>315823069
bethesdrone convinced this will be the next skyrim with gun so they reported it.
I am sure they will severly dissapointed that its not a skryrim with gun and regret it
>>315823661
>Companies are because you're fucking with their marketing.
You mean by potentially ruining some sales because people get to see that the game is shit before they actually buy it.
>>315824239
Why is fucking EVERYONE in the videogames-industry against the consumer?
Fucking hell man, its just unbelievable
Review and media embargoes are a standard of every industry.
Music
Movies
Cars
Even fucking hardware.
>being such a pussy bitch you actually actively try to help Bethesda find leak streams
Continue the fucking streams. How the fuck hasn't this game leaked yet?
>>315825554
Because every so often you need to trim the fat. You know, do a controlled burn. Of the forest. Otherwise it gets so dense and mired with interfering stuff everywhere.
>>315825554
I know right they supposedly want people to play and share their game but when people do just that before this arbitrary realease date they lose their shit.
>>315825554
And it gets worse every year. And on top of that, people defend this kind of behavior because muh beloved gaming company that can do no wrong. Fuck them all.
>>315825554
What kind of idiot would be for the consumer?
>>315825475
That is exactly why. Now you can see why this would be a big deal to some people.
Watched a stream of Fallout 4 earlier today onYoutube. Looks pretty meh, but I'll probably play it anyway.
>>315825554
The people who have the game aren't consumers, they got a leak from someone who was able to get their hands on copies before anyone else or they are reviewers.
>>315826303
right because retail copies never leak
>>315826296
That's fine. Just don't pay for it.
>>315826303
but showing what the game is really like is helpful to the consumers so we don't get tricked
>>315826165
yea a problem to the company that makes a shit game and hopes they can con someone out of their money by suppressing the truth.
>>315826449
You should only rely on marketing material to make game purchases.
>>315826303
The consumer is the one they're trying to prevent from seeing the game
They are cooperating with bethesda on putting a smokescreen on any footage that didn't come directly from Bethesda. They are helping bethesda with lying to the fucking consumer.
You can't tell me Bethesda could potentially sue twitch for allowing people to show a game early, right?
>>315826540
and then you end up with batman arkham knight on pc pre re-release.
>>315826449
That is problematic for the company. If you know the game is unpolished and shit, you have to hype it up as much as you can without actually showing the product.
>>315826664
Right, don't be so entitled anon. Batman was fine and you PC gamers are just spoiled brats.
Please pre-order Fallout 4.
Why do consumers love being fucked in the ass?
>>315826765
>Batman was fine and you PC gamers are just spoiled brats.
This true though.
>>315826917
Because if you speak up you get labeled a entitled misogynist shitlord by every media establishment.
>>315826917
They love the hype. No matter what.
>>315825475
>reminder that "Shareware" was a thing not too long ago
>reminder that DooM and Minecraft were shareware
>reminder that they both still sold millions of copies
If it can't succeed as shareware, it's shitware. (TM)
>>315826765
heres youre reply
>>315826917
I don't know man. I'm looking at this tweet and wondering what kind of cunts are reporting early leak streams.
>>315823661
Yeah it's a big deal for companies, but leaks are great for consumers.
>>315826917
Stockholm Syndrome
>>315826765
>There are still reports that Batman is still broken and still needs to be fixed
>Before that Arkham Origins had a game breaking bug that didn't let you complete the game 100% because you would get stuck on a tower
>After they reported the bug the fuckers said they will not fix the bug because they were busy making DLC for the game so they can sell it
>>315827338
It was a joke anon, fuck Bethesda and shitty developers like the makers of Batman
I wish JewTube would stop letting developers abuse the DMCA
>>315827186
It was sarcasm you underage b&.
>>315825554
I thought you faggots didn't likeLet's Plays
They didn't do this shit for MGSV, did they? Cat's out of the bag, Fallout 4 is shit and they don't want people to cancel preorders.
>>315827670
Its about Twitch cooperating with Bethesda in covering up the poor quality of Fallout 4
>>315827542
Not youtube, retards in general that will spend 60 dollars on a faulty product, even tho if it's their money they are paying for a product that it's broken and looks like shit, only promoting the fact that companies can still do that shit because people is retarded enough for eat a big turd with a Bethesda sticker on it.
>mfw people are actually unironically hyped for this piece of shit
Would a company that created a quality product care about this sort of thing?
Why is this shit even legal? Why are my tax dollars going towards helping a wealthy corporation fleece their customers?
>>315827817
I'm too cynical to be hyped anymore.
>>315827721
>They didn't do this shit for MGSV, did they?
They actually did. Pretty heavily too
>>315827867
Just look at Pete's tweets and other guys commenting on those tweets are sucking his dick.
>>315825756
fucking bethesdakeks
>Put stream's category under another game or untitled
>Use a preview for said game rather than FO4
Fuck them, everyone will forget about it in months.
>>315827867
A company that created a quality product would only care for spoilers about the ending so people don't get their experience shit on, but now we have Bethesda and their army of retards getting pissy because a good sanmaritan streamed how bad Fallout 4 was in reality, bet your ass if i preordered that game and saw that stream i would cancel the preorder inmediatly.
>>315827979
Well Konami is also a garbage company now, it doesn't surprise me anymore.
>>315824239
If you're going to post leaked videos, why do it through twitch? Or even youtube?
Why are people so baka?
>consumers helping Bethesda be anti-consumer
Are bethesdrones the worst video game fanbase?
>>315828120
>everyone will forget about it in months.
They don't give a shit. Bethdrones have already preordered, the company literally doesn't give a single fuck whether you like it or not as long as you get your money. The astronomically high amount of shilling and astroturfing that went on everywhere has achieved its goal, now they just watch the money roll in.
>>315826165
It's kind of sad that we live in a time where providing a good product is secondary to making money.
>>315827809
No, YouTube literally lets developers abuse Digital Millennium Copyright Act to censor legitimate criticism. Of course customers are retarded and buy shitty products, but if you limit their ability to make an informed decision, what can you really expect?
>>315823069
>Are people really this sensitive to leaks?
They are when they have something to hide.
If it was good they would happily seek the extra advertising.
>>315826917
They are stupid.
>>315823661
This.
What you see happening here is companies trying to protect their projected profits from their investment into the marketing of FO4.
The more it leaks, the less the marketing was worth.
>>315823661
Capitalism is about having the advantage. Naturally I'm going to seek any reliable information I can about something before I buy it, which naturally means a company will be at a disadvantage via leaks purely because they won't HAVE the massive advantage of controlling information and possibly cloaking low quality work I would otherwise be unable to access.
I think the short of what I'm saying is it benefits me, I don't give a fucking shit about them. You either make a product I like, or I don't buy it.
>>315828479
Oh, if only you knew how far back this goes.http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html
>>315828459
That's what confuses me. What factors exactly makes Fallout 4 that strong in advertisements? The only decent advertisement I saw for it was the small SPECIAL cartoons because it would eventually lead you thinking of the actual product itself.
>>315828479
Making money has always been the number one goal. It's just that somewhere along the line, they realized that they don't even need the "good product" part of the equation anymore and people will still buy products anyway with the right amount of manipulative set up.
>>315828459
If the leak and the "this is not what was promised" gets out of hand they could end up with much reduced profits actually, this is probably the only time + the day one patch the game will need when this company is tirelessly working on damage control.
Day1 is where they see the most money roll in after all, it must be protected from all harm
>>315828929
>1920s
I knew there was something I could blame those fuckers for, thanks anon
>>315828959
Pretty much every single ad is banking on brand recognition, which is always a sign of potential disaster.
>>315828959
>FROM THE MAKERS OF SKYRIM
>>315824239
>tfw i have an express written permission
>>315830684
Show me your chest please totsuka.
>>315826303
German retailers literally sent out copies yesterday instead of monday - its not even a "back yard under the hand leak" thing
>>315825756
>people think companies and corporations give two shits about them
Literally next level whiteknighting. These are the same people who were teacher's pet in school and never grew a pair.
>>315825756
I told bethesda about a leak. Someone must've done one on the game, because it looks like piss.
>>315825554
Gaming sites aren't the only one that do this
>Movie is about to come out
>Actor goes on a talk show as a guest to promote the movie
>"Oh Actor that movie was to great/funny/scary!"
>Author releases book
>Author goes on a talk show as a guest to promote the book
>"Oh Author, that book was great/a really good read!"
Are the people helping Bethesda getting these leaks pulled down at least getting paid?
>>315832675
>>315823069
If you are peddling a shitty game and want to make as much people as possible buy your stuff blind (ie. pre-order), every stream becomes a problem.
>>315826303
They're clearly doing this so people don't cancel pre-orders or change their mind about the game. Use your fucking brain.
>>315832675
what a fucking faggot
>>315832764
they do it for free hoping todd senpai will notice them
I cancelled my preorder, so I'm guessing they ought to be.
>>315832604
Thats probably because they don't want to scare off potential guests and give those the benefit of the doubt, which is fair in my opinion
thanks to everything that's been leaked I went from DAY 1 HYPE!!! to week 1 pirate!... to not giving a fuck
i'll watch funny youtube videos of all the retarded glitches in Fallout 4 instead lmao
>>315832675
>stop enjoying my game you fuck!
Why even give out review copies then? The best way to prevent it is to not send them out at all.
>>315833103
What did you just say?
Why the hell are people helping a company hide their product? What's worse is that they'll likely doing this for free.
Do they get some 'high' abut helping Bethesda?
>>315827721
Lol yeah they fucking did for both mgsv and witcher
>>315832764
>>315833430
they are literally anti-consumer consumers.
zombies created by a potent mix of denial, self loathing, shattered dreams and buyer's remorse
>>315833665
its seriously terrifying to me knowing these people exist.
>>315825554
Because the one person in the industry who claims to be "pro-consumer" got cancer.
>>315834769
It's the same deal
>>315823069
>pete hines
>>315823069
Buttblasted because leaks nullifies every shills they operates
>>315834980
>people grow up learning to love and cherish corporations that want to sell them things
>>315827176
True but Fallout looks boring when watching it then actually playing it.
Minecraft can be fun to watch and play.
>>315823069
yes
why do people keep falling for bethesda trap every single time?
I'm sure elder srolls VI or skyrim II will sell like hotcakes and will be praised by blind people.
I don't get it people hate cod popularity but go and jump into todd's dick.
It blows my mind that one game can cause 90% of /v/ to constantly have their asshole tied in a knot. Like seriously, it makes you all so mad just that this game exists. It's fucking hilarious because regardless of the quality, two things are assured
>/v/ will hate it
>It will be GOTY
God I hate this place and love it at the same time.
>>315835423
FUCKING HATE LEAKS
>>315835519
>Like seriously, it makes you all so mad just that this game exists.
You totally missed the point of /v/'s complaints entirely.
0/10 apply yourself.
>>315835697
I don't care what the point of constantly complaining is, I just find it humorous. Like it's genuinely intriguing to enter a F4 thread and see massive amounts of circle jerking about how bad it is. It's just crazy so many people dedicate their time to something they hate lol
>>315826917
Because they're untermensch who degenerates whole mankind into shit.
Extinction of humanity is only cure, however. The cancer is terminal and hopeless.
>>315825942
This. Companies have always had this mindset. We just live in an age where they can get away with a lot more shit now.
>>315827817
>>315827817
I'm hyped but just hyped for doing random stuff and quests. But my hype level is just moderate. I think it'll be a solid good game but it annoys me how these fanboys who are hyping the fuck out of it are really insane. There triggered by the pic of you meeting your son only to realize he's the leader of the institute.
>>315835454
"jump into todd's dick"
i keked
I am honestly surprised that most people aren't like me. I never pre-order or buy the game on day 1. I ALWAYS wait a few weeks or months to see what all the reviewers say. Even then I almost always wait for it to go on sale at a heavily discounted price on Steam.
>>315837296
I just wait for the first torrent.
>>315837296
people want to be able to talk about the game with each other as they progress and they can only really do that at launch because conversation dies after a week.
>>315828479
Making money has always been the primary goal, its that its now cheaper, and now risks less bodily harm, to fool people than to actually create a good product.
>this game is shit but we need to sell it anyway, fuck the gamers, find the ones who leak and take down their shit permamently'
pretty much. and with twitch having a monopoly now on video game streaming (especially being backed up by amazon) you can bet amazon/twitch are going to be payed by publishers to shut down shit they don't want to see on twitch.
You would not believe how much they spend on marketing vs developing a game nowadays.
>>315837513
Normalfags who buy into preorder hype don't even play games. They just buy shit like this to fit in with their friends.
>>315837296
I'm pretty much the same, after playing x amount of ea games I've become disillusioned with the industry and my hype meter is incapable of crossing a certain threshold. I've permamently lost a small part of myself that enjoyed games.
>>315823069
>being this buttblasted about people seeing your shit game
What's a matter, Peteyboy? Scared that people will know the truth?
>>315838820
>no one can play until release date!
>except the special snowflake reviewers we sent free collector's edition copies a week early :^) please understand
Only reason I see for companies to get buttblasted about leaked footage of a finished product is if they have no confidence in said product and are trying to retain as many preorders as possible. I don't fault Bethesda because history has shown a few times before that they are awful at everything they do and the footage so far has cemented this fact. There is no other reason to be hunting streams and leakers of an early release copy.
>>315824239
Twitch is still a bunch of retards
Stefanie Joosten got banned on twitch for streaming GZ a few days before the TPP release because someone there thought it was TPP
There will always be the company fanboys who will do anything for them, see nintendo and their more rabid fans when they report things like 3DS hacks
As for companies of course they don't like it. They spend millions of dollars on a carefully crafted marketing campaign that when all goes right, will result in a lot of sales. Thats all they really care about, that initial burst of sales and carrying a momentum from reviewers who say "YEAH GAME IS GOOD GO GET IT GUYS" cause then the fence sitters have 2 people saying the same thing, the word of mouth folks and the reviewers
That kind of gets ruined when it gets out like a week early and people are already talking about what a shitshow it is
>>315833349
>my game
It's not even his game, he says he's 'feedback' which means he's just bottom of the barrel user testing
>buying bethesda games
>after oblivion
shit, I gave in and actually bought fallout 3, but how can people be so retarded and buy their games 11 years after their downfall was apparent?
>>315834929
>totalbutthurt
>in the industry
Dude, he's a fucking let's player. He's bottom rung pond scum at best.
>>315828657
>companies trying to protect their projected profits from their investment into the marketing of FO4.
>The more it leaks, the less the marketing was worth.
Then maybe they should spend less on marketing in the first goddamn place and spend it on making the game not plop out like a steaming pile of shit.
>All this beef around F4
> I haven't even started witcher 3 and genuinly don't know a thibg about its plot
Feels good man.
>>315839475
AAAAAAHHHHHHHH wtf
>>315840329
Come on, we all know that's a load of bullshit. No marketing = your game doesn't exist
>>315825073
Yeah because the consumer has no choice but to run out & buy the game immediately upon release. Especially considering that shortly after release there won't be an abundance information/videos/opinions out there.
Just a bunch of braindead baby boy zilch faggots with a severe case of the OH NOES carrying on about nothing. Kill yourselves.
>>315840329
Anon I think we both know the more marketing a game has the lower quality the game tends to be. They never wanted to make the game good, just good enough for people to have fun for an hour or 2 and thats it.
And nobody really cares at the end of the day. Isn't it great?
>>315840374
Geralt can either kill Ciri or nuke Velen.
>>315840508
Minecraft became a huge success on the back of word of mouth alone.
>>315840508
>products have never sold on word on mouth alone
>>315823069
If it's being put in the open on places they go I guess
>>315840329
How would you justify the retarded amounts marketing monkeys are paid then?
>paid loads to throw away loads in a braindead manner
>>315840508
Hell, I didn't even have to respond yet and you already got BTFO
>>315840558
>Isn't it great?
The sooner the shills are bored with it, the sooner I can pick it up at the bottom of the discount barrel three months down the line.
>>315827204
Clearly you haven't seen the defense force at /r/fallout and /r/fo4
>casual friends who loved Fallout 3 but never played Vegas because they heard it was bad come over for some beers
>I show them New Vegas, and they all go and buy it
>Show them leaked gameplay of Fallout 4
>Casual friends are disgusted, and say that Bethesda are shit at making games
Only idiots enjoy the mechanics of 3 more than Vegas, and only idiots will look at the game and think it's not a disappointment.
>>315840912
You know its probably gonna get GOTY awards no matter how good the game is, I mean what can really stand toe to toe with it? MGS5?
And thats gonna keep the games price inflated for god knows how long
>>315840950
children and retards
>>315840842
>How would you justify the retarded amounts marketing monkeys are paid then?
Simple. I'd reallocate them. If they weren't good at anything else, then they weren't good at anything to begin with. Not my fault they have shit for "skills."
>paid loads to throw away loads in a braindead manner
wut
>>315840661
>>315840715
Word of mouth is unreliable as fuck though, anecdotes are not evidence. Plenty of good or decent things have failed to such an extent due to shitty marketing, that no amount of word of mouth advertising can compensate.
>>315841038
>And thats gonna keep the games price inflated for god knows how long
Didn't New Vegas have a GOTY year edition for $20 like two years later?
>>315841072
Stop trying to justify shitty anti-consumer behavior, Todd. We all just read the Twitter cap where you got BTFO and your DF came to rescue you.
>>315825554
I love that image set.
>>315841006
tbqh they're all retard garbage & your an intellectually challenged tool for enjoying any them familia
>>315841224
>/v/ universally loves their meme game Dragon's Dogma
>it's still literally who tier and nobody has ever heard of it or knows about it or even talks about it
>doesn't even have a lasting general on /vg/
wow, so that's the power of word of mouth, stay fucking delusional.
>>315841406
>stay fucking delusional.
Ah, the cherry on top of every "I have literally run out of fucking arguments" sundae.
>implying I ever said shit about "word of mouth"
Moron
Stay mad, /v/
>>315827817
I'm super fucking hyped,
like my levels of hype cannot be contained, I've been a diehard fallout fan since the first game and I SERIOUSLY can't wait for the game to come out!
I think they've really outdone themselves this time, I will be super excited when the game comes out and I canshitpost about it to an exponential degree, due to the large amount of butthurt that the day one-game breaking glitches will cause
Just admit it guys, you are all hyped inside.
>>315825942
The long term survivors who want to stick around.
>>315824239
By express written permission, do they actually mean hand written, or typed will do?
I can cook one up real quick.
>>315827338
They actually just offered free refunds for Knight on Steam.
>>315841643
Signed, sealed with Todd's precum, & delivered.
>>315841740
worst launch of anything ever
>>315841594
They stick around because they thrive on creating new users instead of keeping old ones. And you don't need to cater to new users because they don't know any better.
So the new users either wind up becoming long term because they're used to being treated like shit, or they wise up and drop it. Either way, there's a new generation of potential new users to fuck over so it doesn't matter.
>>315841072
>anecdotes are not evidence
>marketing from the only person who benefits from the game selling is more reliable
>>315833398
i kekd
>>315827156
This. All of this fucking hype makes people feel like they're part of something bigger than themselves. Someone comes along and suggests that maybe their ridiculous amount of blind hope are misplaced, and they lash out because you're cutting down something that makes them feel something in their otherwise empty, boring life.
>>315823661
>>315828657
Those fucks shouldn't have shipped the game this early then
>>315841847
>There will someday be a singularity of extreme cynicism, wherein even small children will be wary of anti-consumer policies.
I dreamed a dream.
>>315825554
>release dates are anti-consumer
Look I'm all for consumer rights and everything but we're talking about illegally acquired copies of a game being broadcast without the copyright holder's permission before the specified release date when consumers are allowed to purchase it. That shit's not gonna fucking fly and you know it. Maybe you should push for more principled videogame media instead, magazines actually criticizing preview builds instead of sucking down everything a company gives them? Oh wait that takes membership dollars and not free* advertisement revenue, I'm not THAT interested in unbiased reporting.
>>315823069
Problem are the rabid fanboys. Not only do they defend the game in question against all sorts of logic, announcements, screenshots and videos, they rat out anyone divulging this info to warn potential customers.
It's one thing to love a game despite its faults, it's another completely different to be a complete rat fuck doing policework for free.
>>315842385
the shitty thing is that there's a TON of cynicism. It's just directed in the wrong direction. New generations are super fucking cynical towards the idea of fighting back against corporations and government bending them over the barrel. They fucking chastise you for not falling in line. They'd rather roll over and die than stick up for themselves because they see any other option as futile.
What the fuck is happening to society
>>315839892
Seriously? Goddamn people are morons. Twitch should also double check that shit before throwing out the ban
>>315842678
Don't be so dramatic. You sound like my hippie grandfather.
>>315843229
Look at every pro-fallout 4 thread so see my point proved.
>>315843363
to see* fuck now it won't sound as cool
What turns people into such beta fanboys that they actively try to get people banned for playing a game they got early? Like some dude could have just gotten a copy early from gamestop because he knows an employee, decides to stream it, and he gets banned. Like if you don't want to be spoiled, don't watch it. But these people are actively searching for people steaming to report them.
If you participate in leaking Fallout 4 you will be caught and will face charges. Please report any leaks you know of.
If you participate in leaking Fallout 4 you will be caught and will face charges. Please report any leaks you know of.
If you participate in leaking Fallout 4 you will be caught and will face charges. Please report any leaks you know of.
>>315843363
Yeah, all zero of them.
>my opinions don't dominate 100% of conversation, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO SOCIETY?!
Why don't you go to an LGBT rally you weeping liberal cunt?
>>315840638
>kill waifu sidekick or destroy important town
That sounds like every western game nowadays
>>315843658
Bruh literally every person defending fallout 4 prove my point. Look at the plethora of tweets in this very thread. Did I strike a nerve or something? You seem super assmad.
>>315843961
fuck your thumbnail and fuck you
>>315826942
>Batman was fine
>True
Ok you got me. Having a game that has glaring issues in performance and crashing isn't exactly fine.
>>315826917
actually they dont, hence the blockade
its like someone felt itching and pain in his anus and Todd convince him not to look behind until its come over
>>315825942
Well fucking over the consumer does not settle well when things go to shit.
Why do you think Monsanto has set up emergency plans for when the entire world wants to rip them apart?
>>315843797
>wah why don't people hate a specific videogame i hate, this proves that kids these days are corporate zombies and government stooges!
do you even listen to yourself
this is a fucking videogame, not apartheid. do you expect people to get all riled up because a videogame company is trying to stop leaks like literally every company in the world would do?
>>315844234
That was just an example, friend. You do a good job of twisting words though, even if that's a shitty way of arguing a point.
Have a comic, maybe you won't be so assmad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxWUtShF_pE
SPOILERS: End Cutscene of Fallout 4
>>315823661
In this day and age with instant access to everything and anything on the internet, how did they not expect a leak?
It's more of an issue with content delivery, companies are stuck in the 20th century.
>>315835519
The hate levels is getting pretty high, I think it's the most /v/ has hated a game since ME3
It's really strange when you juxtapose it with the unconditional love it's getting on reddit
>>315844358
It's a bad fucking example. Call me when a corporation breaches public trust in a significant way and isn't severely reprimanded. Fuck, did you miss the whole Volkswagen thing?
I seriously can't wait to pirate it. It's like watching the Room. This actually seems worse than Fallout 3 from what I've seen. Pretty impressive in its own right.
*dances*
>>315844730
>Fuck, did you miss the whole Volkswagen thing?
Do tell
>>315844820
They were polluting more than they said they were and they sold millions of vehicles that violate emission standards.
>>315845006
So were they reprimanded then?
>>315845184
Sorta
>>315844820
Emissionsgate, look it up
>>315845326
well then aren't you sorta proving my point?
>>315828459
poor crab
doesn't look like that's a good way to be cut.
>>315845184
Penalties are pending, could be up to 20 billion dollars. Several class-action lawsuits are in the works with Volkswagen expected to offer money to consumers for tanking resale value. Stocks in Volkswagen have dropped over 25% and the CEO was forced to quit. Analysts predict sharp decrease in US sales due to public misgivings over the trustworthiness of the brand.
It's a real shitshow right now.
>>315845546
I was a different guy from the guy talking with you before. I just was letting you know about Volkswagen.
>>315845731
Welp. Never mind then.
>>315845725
I can't believe I haven't heard about this yet. Thanks for the info. I'm gonna look more into this
who fucking cares you nigger obsessed keks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3GOiPBfxk
>>315832238
Umm m-miss you forgot to collect the homework
>class faces when
I fucking hated those fucks
>>315845725
German credibility in the toilet. I was offered a choice between a kia and a volkswagen, my papa told me to get a kia, because the german auto industry is 'a bunch of lies built on corruption and money'
seems like my papa was right, and my kia hasn't broken down yet
>>315845849
It happened a couple months ago, I dunno how you missed it. It's been all over the news.
>>315845725
And its not only this, porsche also had similar things, as did some other brands
Deutschland industry getting blown the fuck out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJFVPxBpezk
>>315846303
I don't really watched tv andyou guysnever talked about it, so I guess I didn't catch it.
>>315846498
You should always have some form of news anon. Yes a lot of news is corrupt and clickbait but if you check various news sites and pool them together, you can then make your own judgement
>>315842678
>the shitty thing is that there's a TON of cynicism.
Fuck you, you agreeable cunt.
>>315846798
>can't even read a whole post
>>315846773
Or if you're a total casual you can at least keep yourself abreast of current events by occasionally checking google news and listening to NPR.
>>315843445
It's also "proven" not "proved".
>>315846773
Oh it's not that I don't trust news. I just never end up watching it.
>>315846996
fuck
>>315846939
This too is fine. What if a meteor is heading towards earth and you're unaware of it? Or a hurricane showing up? Or where there are local riots, or whatever form of calamity? These are all extremes however , its absolutely imperative that you know whats going on on some BASIC level.
fact is if people were oooohing and aaaaaahing beth wouldn't give a shit. but guess what the game looks and plays like an aborted sequel to rage and dissenting opinion is not allowed until after you can't cancel you're pre-order. watching pete hines' tidal wave of butthurt on twitter just proves they know the game is trash.
>>315823661
>content embargos where everyone is given a fair shot at providing content for the game
Yeah embargos are about fairness.
Kek.
oh jesus I hope this game bombs.
>>315846773
Finding a news source that isn't shit is a pain in the ass, though. I think the only one that's generally above-par I've found is Reuters.
>>315840527
>Fallout_4_facial_animations.gif
>>315845006
Not just that though, they had sensors that could tell when they were being emissions tested and knew how to properly downthrottle processes leading to increased emissions to avoid being found out.
Not, "They lied about their emissions testing" everyone does that. It's "They created a vehicle which knew how to lie for them, and instead of creating a properly functioning product, went out of their way to hide it."
>>315846227
Here's to hoping my newish hyundai holds up the same as a late 80's early 90's camry.
>pls
>The more it leaks, the less the marketing was worth.
Good, maybe they'll put some budget into the fucking game instead of fucking nuka cola from a who soda company.
>>315825073
Bingo.
>>315827817
The last time I was hyped was for MGSVI still had fun with it but it left me empty.
>>315825942
A smart business
>>315850698
Did it leave you with aphantom pain?
>tfw Bethesda is so angered by all the leaks they cancel the game.
>>315850780Yes.>No Eli boss fight
>No playable Battle Gear
>No way to bring Quiet back.
>No fun boss fights except Extreme Sahelanthropus
>>315825073
This.
What they don't realize is that in many cases, they're just making people who would have watched it on twitch and then bought it, instead pirate it and then never pay for it.
>>315841568
They won't admit it but they'll rev up the game asap
>>315841875
That's not what he's saying though, you retard, learn some reading comprehension before posting on a Cantonese wheel-spinning forum.
He's saying that word of mouth is unpredictable, and depending on who plays it at what time, it may or may not get known.
Dragon's Dogma is a great game but people didn't talk about it. Minecraft was passed around easily, partly due to the fact it used to be very cheap and could be run on garbage computers so lots of kids played it and it passes around.
Investing in Marketing definately brings results and increased sales, the question is how much it was worth it. It's a cost-value thing, but it almost always gets positive results. Every publicity is good publicity.
>>315850923
TRAGEDY PLS GO
>>315850923
>The copies in the wild are copied and cracked. Everyone gets the game for free. Bethesda loses again.
lol, did they give up? couple streams are on twitch
>>315842392
Are you retarded? First, the commercials don't have to be gaming related.
Second, your alternative to not buying shit games is to pay to a news outlet to tell you not to buy shit games?
Fucking hell m8, just gtfo and ponder abit on your stupidity.
>>315846143
We used to beat the everliving shit out of those fucks.
It's not about what he reported itself, maybe it's important for the class to go over the assingments so people won't fail the exam, or to report an incident to prevent harm.
No, that's not why he reported it. The little faggot reported just to gain brownie points for himself and fuck people over. These are the same people that report leaks.
Bottom of the barrel shit eaters, I wish there was something like what was in Winter Soldier that could identify those people and eliminate on-sight.
>>315825849
yeah, ask indonesia how controlled burns work
but because you're too lazy to google and I KNOW you don't keep up with current events, the entire country was razed, burnt to a cinder
>>315823069
>tfw I've been watching almost uninterrupted for the last 2-3 days
Doing a good job there, Pete. Keep up the good work.
>>315823069
>>315823661
It's crystal clear that companies want to protect their marketing. What I am truly appalled by is the fact that consumerist fanboyism has reached levels where consumers actually defend their favourite company like it was a fucking god.
>>315823661
You mean fucking with having journalists and youtube keks lie for them, what a tragedy.
Alrite people, please link those unbanned stream so i can watch how shit it is like the rest of you mongrel.
>>315844605
Nigga it's because it's so universally loved that it's hated.
/v/ is contrarian by nature. Witcher used to be loved here, as did Diablo and MGS.
Nowadays you find people shitting on all of thrm because there is lots of love for these games. Just you wait, Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out or PC release of DD makes it super popular, Everyone here will shit on it.
Whenever a game seems to get a disproportional amount of support, /v/ will make it a point to hate on it disproportionally as well.
>>315846137
mac tonight theme?
>>315823661
>people think companies don't want this
what
it's all part of the hype.
they know people who get early copies will want to show it off, and they know that the consumers will be barking at the gates to see the content.
if they just let it happen, people see the content and the hype dies before they could have purchased the game; the mystery is gone, and even if the game looks good the lack of mystery will lower the chances of some people buying the game
however, if they don't let it just, happen, and instead do a half-assed job of shutting down streams and the like as they appear, it keeps the game in the public eye as it is an interesting spectacle (e.g. this thread). though they may lose some people's interest in the streams, they gain the interest of other people who don't watch the streams much but still hear about the publisher shutting the streams down
>>315836119
what a cringeworthy memespew, try not to sound like this guy
>>315826574
REUNTAL DID NOTHING WRONG
>>315825554
If I made a spoiler heavy game, I'd want that shit behind an NDA and embargo too.
>>315840175
god i wish someone would just tweet at him
>"since your son is evil and you either kill him or blow up the commonwealth, will there be a fallout 5?"
>>315825196
>America.
Yes, because this doesn't happen in other countries you sheltered neckboar.
>>315823661
>potenshally a crime
todd, pls.
>>315842392
>illeglaly acquired copies
>video game corporations now make laws and release dates are binding contracts that the entire country has to agree with because reasons
fuck. you.
>>315841406
But anon, it's the literally who type of games you should look if you want to play new games.
>>315840232
> he's a fucking let's player
>never watched a single video
>>315823069
Only if their games are shit.
>>315861834
well, every purchase is legally a contract.
