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Enjoying that ultra greed buff /v/?
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Enjoying that ultra greed buff /v/?
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What did they buff?
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>>315787302
>Health coins now make ultra greed more red and heals more; making him faster, decreasing coin lifespan, and making him overall a bigger bitch
>Makes key and bomb coins pretty much impossible to break unless you have god tier rng
Have fun
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>>315787237
Haven´t gotten Afterbirth yet, but from I´ve heard so far is that the DLC is pretty good, but Edmund is trying hard to patch the fun out of the game, so I´m not sure if I even want it anymore
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>>315787940
he's being a big baby ever since they datamined the lost
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I beat Ultra Greed for the first time today as Isaac.

How the hell is it even supposed to be possible to defeat him as the Lost?
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>>315787940
He's updating things way too fast and making poor decisions because of it. It's not all immediately bad, but there are changes that do hurt the game like butt bombs healing the poop-based enemies, making one of the related challenges almost impossible for Afterbirth players to complete because of it.

Maybe in the future, all the issues would be fixed, but right now, nerfs to items and synergies are high priority for him for some reason.
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>>315788575
How long until he puts in all the stuff he's still hiding from the data miners?
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>>315787553
I'd be fine with boss buffs but nerfing characters and items is fucking stupid in a game where the main draw is getting fun synergies and breaking the game.
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>>315788634
Gnawed leaf and the shears or daddy long legs. There's almost no point in fighting him otherwise.
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>>315789398
if he actually buffed the worthless trash items sure but only the good shit gets nerfed

>>315789390
unknown

still missing several items and a new character

>>315787940
just pirate it
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>>315788634
do something like this
:^)
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>>315790517
3 hours to kill the Hush with just the peep is quite impressive actually.
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remember to eat your steaks slowly!
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>edmund literally making his game worse with every patch
so glad i finished greed mode already
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>>315790936
The steak metaphor is so fucking stupid, only americans are retarded enough to actually buy 100$ steaks
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>>315791145
This, looks like I was the smart one for doing the Lost runs first, good luck beating Greed now idiots.
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>>315791168
>retarded
*rich
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>>315788634

Tons of damage and Algiz rune, better if you have blank card too so you get a whole minute of invuln
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How do you even beat the Speed challenge. Shit's fucking impossible.
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>>315791420
One doesn't nullify the other
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>>315791168
>taking a metaphor literally
Honestly that's so retarded that I can't tell if it's bait or not
>>315791414
I just D4'd dr./epic fetus/pyro so I could just reroll everything in the shop into what I wanted
Leaf/Daddy Long Legs meant i literally had to do nothing at all to win
Can't do that anymore since reroll machines have a limit now
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>>315791420
A lot of rich people are actually retarded when it comes to spending their money.
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>>315791623
good rng
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>>315791612
Got to Greed today with a superpowerful Eve + Blank Card Algiz, still took damage and I even used the Algiz rune THREE fucking times. This is fucking ridiculous.
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>>315791414

It's still doable, just abuse 2 of Diamonds and Blank Card while you still can.
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>>315791741
I broke Greed mode on Day one by having 2 steamy sales, the shop had infinite free items and it didn't take long before I reached breakfast. Don't know if it's still doable.
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good thing i already beat him with all characters except the lost
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Ultra Greed was already making Greed mode unplayably unfun by being a boring health bubble. This is effectively no change for me.
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>you don't even get an item for getting greed machine to 999
>you just get an achievement

yeah, that's fun
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>>315788634
Well before the patch I simply got lucky with the d4 and turning all my alright items into superpowered contact lenses tear shots that could never been stopped.
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>>315791623
Hold R and start on a good item like deaths touch or chocolate milk and then hope to god you can get mapping somehow.
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>>315792812
slow down!
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Fuck rebirth, original isaac was a lot more fun to play.
Rebirth made the game a chore to play if RNG is not on your side.

>shitty devil rooms
>shitty angel rooms
>shitty curse rooms
>pills not worth using anymore
>secret rooms completely worthless

And thats what I can think of off the top of my head. Also rebirth's music is shit.
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>>315794439
0/10
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>>315794439
its funny that you say that since the devil deals in the original game were fucked in the sense that after the first run there is literally no way to manipulate them
they were 100% RNG
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No. I didn't have time to unlock Lilith before the Azazal nerf and it's fucking hell now.
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>>315791145
>Ezzel only function is to be easy
>play it again to see the nerf
>wait a full 6 seconds to shoot a full brimstone charge
>deals almost no damage at all

For what purpose?
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http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Transformations
LOOK AT ALL THIS SHIT THAT DOES NOTHING
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>>315794514
Original isaac was buggy as fuck true but devil rooms aren't even worth entering anymore almost.
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Baby Factory
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>>315787237
Fuck the ultra greed. Can Edward McMuffin nerf the fucking Hush HP? I get that he's meant to be hard, but he's a fucking wall. God forbid you have high damage low firerate, as opposed to low-decent dmg but good firerate. There seriously needs to be a better algorithm for the HP scaling.
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>>315794928
>tfw been waiting since the first game for a bob transformation
>afterbirth adds one
>it's fucking nothing
t-thanks eggmund
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>>315787237
>Decide to get the expansion and pick up playing it again
>Beat Greed mode with Azrael to unlock
>"Oh that character's easy mode, this shouldn't take long"
>Tfw
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>>315794928
>that evil angel transformation
>that fucking nothing it does despite looking all lovecraftian

what the fuck come on

like, maybe a reliable fear shot or something?
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afterbirth is a pretty big disappointment, i feel kinda sad about it
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>>315795840
don't choke on your steak goy ;)
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>>315795002
>Devil rooms are not worth it
>Forgetting about Brimstone, Abbadon,Lord of the Pit, Maw, etc.

There are better hellish items and even if it sucks there is a good chance to get a free guppy item.

You know what the game needs? An alternate route for those who have shitty items, the conditions to get that route is to ignore every devil and angel room items all the way to it lives, then you get a route which essentially like Floors II and III except you take extra damage like you would in Womb and every other after level, the final enemy would be something more like classic Isaac, and enemy with several forms with easy patterns.

The reward for beating it is an automatic Angel or devil item at the start of your next run that applies even if you quit the game, like an Eden Token.
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If I pirate Afterbirth as it was before the updates, will my save file still work?
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>Game is 9/10 on release
>Play every day
>Afterbirth releases
>have no desire to play
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>>315788634
chaos card
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>>315795305
>soy milk is absolute shit for every single thing in the game
>absolutely destroys hush and ultra greed because of their damage caps

What was he thinking? Soy milk isn't that terrible
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>>315796572
didn't it get buffed?

i heard it wasn't a special item anymore too
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>>315796572
worst thing about soy milk is the knockback, and the fact that it actually puts you at less dps than you had before picking it up
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What a gimped piece of shit tedious game this has become. 2 hours of resets and I'll never get anything remotely useful
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>>315797269
they gotta have nerfed the first floor or something
i never see anything good in the first floors anymore

got like 20 hours of afterbirth and i still haven't seen a crickets head or knife in the first item room
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>>315797504
ive had knife first floor but crickets head mostly shows up in the blue womb for me
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>>315787237
Did dr.fetus get buffed? Are there any stealth changes to items?
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>>315798181
>>Did dr.fetus get buffed?
yes
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Jesus fucking christ, what the hell happened with Azazel? His charge takes forever and he literally does no damage anymore. I keep getting dmg up items, but it doesn't change shit.
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>bought the wii u version
>enjoying every second of it
feels good to be behind the update, seems like a lot of shit got fucked badly with this update.
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>>315798803
they allegedly fucked up the nerf

for some reason they decide to wait all this time to nerf the guy
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>>315795691
I couldn't even play the game due to a bug. The same patch that fixed this bug also nerfed Azazel.

What a mixed bag.
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>>315787237
Have they fixed Azazel yet? I want to unlock Lilith, but he was unplayable the last time I picked him
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>>315799307


AZ is still being *tweaked*

Soooo more shit from edmund soon

https://twitter.com/edmundmcmillen/status/663065620787826688
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>>315798803
He's too OP!

Please don't think about how they waited until NOW to nerf him!

Also slow down. Don't play too fast.
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I love the hell out of both Isaac games, but I really do wonder what the hell Edmund's thinking with some of the stuff we've seen so far with Afterbirth.

>Ultra Greed and Hush fights are tedious bullet sponges because of scaling health.
>Ultra Greed now has a huge fucking health pool and the coins he drops that you're supposed to smash have almost quadruple the health they did before and also seem to activate faster, effectively ruining the one interesting mechanic the boss had going for it.
>Hush has so much health that no matter what items you have it will be an incredibly long, boring fight.
>Curses haven't been reworked, and most of them just frustrate the player rather than provide a challenge. Curse of darkness and curse of the maze are particularly dumb.
>Rooms where damage is guaranteed or almost certainly unavoidable, particularly with the tiny rooms. I've also walked through the door into a devil room only to have an enemy baby devil spawn right on top of me.
>Item rooms where the item is surrounded by rocks and a spike trap, particularly aggravating on the first 2 floors where you won't always have a bomb ready.
>Useless secret rooms where there's nothing but a single poop surrounded by spikes.
>Glass cannon now takes away all soul hearts too, meaning it's only ever useful on the Lost or when you have no health and are using it as a last resort.
>More "neutral" pill types made PhD even more lackluster.
>Judas got nerfed. Apparently the many instances of Devil/Angel rooms with the Book of Belial was a bug, but holy shit how did it take a year to change that?
>Lilith got nerfed. Her spacebar item now takes longer to charge. Apparently this was mostly because she was too powerful in Greed mode, which is dumb considering its just a gimmick mode that really shouldn't have much of a bearing on the main game.
>Azazel got massively nerfed in both damage and charge time, which really has me question whether they playtested these changes at all.
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>>315800392
>mfw I pre-ordered MGSV:PP
>mfw I pre-ordered Afterbirth

Never, ever, ever again. I've lost all hope when a game dev's autistic vision on how the game "should" be played takes precedent over actual fun and quality gameplay
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>>315800392
>all this irrational whining
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>>315800392
Let's not forget
>Somehow making Angel Rooms even WORSE
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>>315800392
Also, I completely forgot to mention Edmund holding back content for a few days for some goddamn reason. It's not much of an issue now but holy shit was that retarded. On twitter he kept insisting it was due to a bug and wasn't to fuck with people.

My main gripe with the character nerfs is how it really doesn't incentivize people to play them anymore aside from getting their unlocks, unless you want to play a gimped character for extra challenge.
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how would you import saves on a non-steam (but still legitimate) version?
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>>315787237
can't even break the damn coins
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>mfw got killed at Mom's Heart
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>>315787237
>Read that as "enjoying that ultra greed butt"
God damn him and his ass
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How do I remove Ultra greed's damage cap again? Bomb Monstro?
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Send reinforcements
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>>315787237
i don't even have afterbirth
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This is my life now
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>>315802727
You can't, his resistances will adjust automatically as you damage him
You can only wait for him to lower them

Going easy on Monstro was always unrelated
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>>315803519
SLOW
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>>315803519
How do you get those stats to show on the left?
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>>315803838
Missinghud mod
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>>315802964
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>>315790517
can you get to hush without crashing now?
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>>315802964
Go peepers eye! You can do it! We always believed it you!
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>>315804448
Havent had any problems before or after updates. You'll have to find out your self ;)
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>>315795880

Angelic rooms are more often than not shit compared to devil rooms.

A half white heart is not that amazing.
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>can't actually beat anything now

Why is this game so hard?
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>>315787237
>lets fix this boss that never hits you but takes forever to kill by making it take a slightly longer forever to kill

BRAVO EDMUND

YOU TRULY ARE THE KING OF GAME DESIGN
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>>315805708
Edmund has always seemed to be in the mindset that more hp = more difficulty from day 1.

Probably why this game can be so fucking boring
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Anyone have the pic of the new char? it had a beard.
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>>315807663

It's Moses.

incoming shitty "parting the red sea" themed use item.
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>>315794612
I got red candle and scattered it around the stage before starting before hiding over a rock or hole or something. Makes each floor a breeze.
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>>315808412
Is Edmund still mad about dataminers?
If he is,then he'll lose his shit when he finds out the new character got mined out half an hour after its' release.
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>>315810423
It isn't the true new character you moron.
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The "risk-reward" ratio in this game is complete shit.

>Waste a key on a golden chest and get 1 penny
>Enter a spike room and get nothing or just enemies
>Bomb a hidden wall, room is full of fire or poop
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>>315811253
>you gotta read down to up

Twitter is so retarded
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>>315811909
mayb cuz it was meant for super short messages instead for autists to tell their shitty life stories in

basically if you have to use more than 1 tweet for what you meant to say YOU FUCKED UP
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>>315811332
TROLLED
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>>315811253
>FUCKING GAMESTOP
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>>315787237
Is there anyway to just mod in infinite money? I just want my Lilith god damnit.
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PS4 when
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>>315812997
the game may be fun, but its anti-intuitive.
Every aspiring gamedev should look at BoI and see how not to do it
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I'll never understand nerfing shit in a god damn singleplayer game because you think people aren't being punished enough. what a whiny cunt.
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>>315811253
Followup to that.
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>>315800392
Given the fucking SPEED challenge, I don't think they even playtested at all

Holy Christ on a cracker how the fuck am I meant to beat it without retarded luck?
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>IV bag is making our little fun rush mode a joke
>lets remove it from greed mode!
>sack head that gives pretty much infinite batteries in all modes is still untouched

I don't get it.
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>>315816352
It really isn't that hard to figure out. The developers made the game to have a certain level of difficulty, then they learn that they accidentally made it too easy.
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>>315816630
>ugh
thank GOD Edmund is one of the anti-cis people

#progressive #transgender #ps4owner
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>>315799480
I hope his idea of "tweaked" isn't just changing the stat values because his problems are all because of the fact he can't use any item whatsoever.
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I want the old cooldown for box of friends back, why can't breadmund just make box of friends 4 charges on greed mode and 2 on normal?
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>>315817283
Sack head+any other battery item on Lilith is fucking insane.
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>>315794439

pretty much this

also if you don`t get good items in the first two levels, you might as well restart
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Why couldn't edmund just make the IV bag really rare in greed mode?
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>>315819135
because I'd still replay it hundreds of times to find it and get the win
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>>315818125
It's still super good even with the Nerf in greed mode
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>>315819512
eden can still spawn with it fyi
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>>315819135
You can still get it on Eden
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>>315819637
I didn't update fyi
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>>315817015
You're not supposed to, that's why it's a challenge anon :^)
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>>315789398
>>315787553
I don't understand
He nerfs the game for the 1% that have thousands of hours into the game who bitch about tooeasy and the rest of us have to fuck around betatesting
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>>315817283

>sackhead
>blank card
>finding a card against humanity from a sack
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>Cube of Meat
>Halo of Flies
>Infamy
>am now immune to bullets
>reach Hush
>stand on the left side of the room
>hold down the right arrow key for 10 minutes while browsing 4chan on my phone
>win without taking a hit

Bravo Edmund.
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what does the greed penny machine at the end of greed mode do?
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>>315821223
blows up
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guys im not motivated to play boi anymore

what do
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>>315821819
Push through it.

If you play it long enough, eventually you'll start enjoying it again.
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>>315821819

Watch a Northernlion video. Become so enraged by his shoddy performance that you feel compelled to play again and beat eggscum into the dust.
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>go into a resturaunt
>pay for a full course meal
>the waiter comes with only a single bag of french fries
>ask him wheres the rest of my meal
>"Stop eating so quickly."
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>>315822352
>food analogies
Don't you fucking dare.
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>>315822212
can't stand the way that guy spends like 200 words just to say "oops"
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>>315821819
Play greed mode lilith only

It sure injected fun into my dick
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>>315822352
>amerifats
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>>315822212
>Northernlion
>The guy who beat the Chest as the Lost on his first try
>Shoddy performance
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>>315822352
>restaurant
>full course meal

>bag of fries

nigga what
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>tfw I keep mistaking Chemical Peel for Ipecac
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>>315822724

They're both great so just take 'em. Also so is Isaac's Heart and fuck anyone that says otherwise.
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>>315822997
Didn't Egghead nerf the exploit with Isaac's Heart and no damage taken from Blood Donation machines?
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>>315817015
That challenge is based on nothing but getting a good starting item.
I got extremely lucky and managed to get a D4, and just rerolled my items until I managed to get Mom's Knife with the Holy Mantle.
I didn't feel any sense of accomplishment when I finished it, that challenge isn't fun in the slightest.
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GUYS
I just did a run fighting the hush as Judas and when I killed it, light grey veins starting coming after me. I remember seeing a webm of this happening to someone else, anyone have it? anyone got an explanation?
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>>315823626
>took screenshot too late
well fuck
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Blood donation machines aren't in Greed mode anymore?
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>>315823992
nope, removed because it was too fun
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>>315823992
That's right.Replaced by devil beggars.
Also, if you try to use temperance card, it'll spawn a devil beggar instead.
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Why does Edmong hate fun, /v/?
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>>315824348

He's listening to Reddit.
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>the item that gives double room rewards doesn't work in greed mode
well fuck me
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>>315825405
you arent allowed to have fun
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How the flying fuck am I supposed to do this?
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>>315825648
ugh, its supposed to be challenging!
If you cant survive 40 minutes fighiting him, you dont deserve to win, simple as that.
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It took me a while to realize I became guppy.
I just figured that Guppy's Head had bugged out.
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>>315826416

A giant ring of flies is usually a big giveaway
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>>315825648
don't get hit
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>>315798803
enjoy your steak.
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>>315824603
Nah, Reddit is complaining about this so much more than over here.
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>>315794928
Wow almost all of those transformations are shit
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>>315827278
>yfw he Phil Fishes it because everyone is complaining.
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>>315827352
There's literally only three there that are interesting.
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>>315827278
There's a thread on top of the BOI subreddit with like a gorillion upboats right now that's just a wall of text on everything he finds wrong with the updates.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rwwkd/on_meaningful_difficulty/
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>>315827578
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What are the chances of getting Super Bum while consumables are still relevant during a run?
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>>315827695
guppy and baby, what else?
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>>315827758
I have to give them credit, it's pretty much valid commentary. I didn't even realize updating was a thing and tried to play as Azazel. Obnoxiously long charge and couldn't even kill enemies. They're is a different between upping difficulty and just being unplayable as a character.
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>Half the fun in Isaac is getting crazy item combos and doing a fuckton of damage
>Hush and Ultra Greed both scale based on damage making both fights a painful slog

Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>315827918
Super Bum sounds pretty neat, but seems almost impossible to get without D6 shenanigans.
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>Finally trying all the challenges
>Beans
video games are fun, right guys?
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>All this dumb changes
>still no bomb bum
>still no spider transformation
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>>315828103
It's becoming more and more evident that they rushed it all and didn't bother to play test it. If you take Soy Milk into either it destroys them because >low damage
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>lilith nerf
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>balancing things in SINGLE PLAYER GAME
I will seriously never understand this shit.
Unless it's making a boss or something easier or harder items should never be balanced.
the same shit happened with Terraria.
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>>315827695
To think I was excited for all the new transformations.
You got me, Edmund. Good job.
Transformations, especially ones that have that few items to get them, really ought to be a bit more special.
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>>315828103
I thought they had damage mitigation, not scaling health. like, they still have the same health, but they won't take over x amount of damage per hit.
>>315828184
yeah, I've only gotten two bums even while trying. it's a cool addition, but you'll see it maybe once every 100 hours. I think there's a lot of stuff focusing on people who will play for 500 hours, and it made it harder for people just getting into it.
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So what's all the new shit to actually clear in Afterbirth? I know there's Greed Mode and Hush, but is there anything else?
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>>315828475
Terraria is more enjoyable as a multiplayer experience though. At least my friends and I think so.
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>>315828475
Terraria is also a PvE and PvP game with multiple people, though

But yes, they did fuck around with Moon Lord a lot
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>>315828196
>the goddamned Brains challenge
Yep, they sure are
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so is everything that was supposed to be there in the game yet? Should I just wait until edmund actually fixes everythjng?
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>>315828196
The only thing you can hope for are bomb upgrades

Just as well on my first run I got Mr Mega from Super Wrath first thing.
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>>315828627
Mega Satan actually gives rewards for killing him now.
Spoiler: They're shit
There are a few new bosses and new variations on levels, both of which don't add a whole lot.
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>>315828735
I recommend waiting it out, maybe try the older challenges if you haven't done them already.

Is it me or did Rotten Baby become more potent?
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>>315828870
I'm just sort of blasting doors and hoping to find the boss.
I would like to see if car battery does anything for the bean though.
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>>315828710
Moon lord was dogshit last I played. The only ways to beat him included ludicrous amounts of cheese, and they patched a cheesing method out with every update. Is he less shit to fight now? It was horribly tedious to beat him "legitimately"
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>>315828489
Lets play a game of improve the transformation
>Poop transformation gives the butt bomb effect when hit plus a revenge fly
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So I was playing greed mode and instead of a normal run with enemies, I just got fuckload of dead shopkeepers in the room (arround 10) and nothing else with the round ending immediately with no enemies.

Is this just a very weird thing or I need to blow them up for something?
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>>315827578
>implying they aren't the same person
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>>315828949
>beat one of the most difficult bosses in the game
>heres a co-op baby that you probably will never use :^)
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>>315828627
they added a fuckload of new player 2 babies but because there's no online mutiplayer they're basically useless
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>>315828949
Nothing new with the boss rush, then? If I cleared base game rush do I get a different reward for doing it now, I mean
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Nope because i beat greed mode with every character a few hours after it came out.
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>There are plebs who can't beat the 'Speed' challenge and want him to nerf it
Top fucking kek
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>>315829425
But you haven't unlocked all the items from donating to the greed machine at the end.
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>>315828489
>>315827695
>>315827352
>>315794928

It's worth pointing out that none of the new Afterbirth items related to flies count towards the Lord of the Flies transformation.
I got confused as fuck earlier today when I didn't get it. Took me a while to realize why the hell it wasn't working.
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>>315789398
>the main draw is getting fun synergies and breaking the game.

What? Isn't the game inspired by roguelikes? Isn't the main draw of roguelikes that you die in most of your runs and only beat the game on a few? And that is why they are short and randomized since it's expected that you will die and replay the game a lot?
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>>315829664
I got the 109 in about 5-6 runs so i got what i need.
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>>315829206
>gives three neutral flies at Distant Admiration's distance that block incoming shots
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>>315829206
>Drugs gives PHD effect and/or a large damage or speed boost
or
>has a random (smallish, can't be increased by luck) chance to drop a pill after each room

>Mushroom causes green gas explosion when taking damage

>Mom gives stompy effect

Really most if not every transformation should have either flight or some other ability that helps navigation.
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>>315829680

Not him, but the main draw and the core design isn't necessarily the same thing. People can be drawn to a game for things that the designer either didn't intend or didn't focus on.

But that's neither here nor there, because he very obviously focused on making more synergies with the newer versions of the game. It wasn't necessarily the primary focus of the original, though.
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>>315829810
But it was fixed. It isn't capped at 109 anymore.
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>>315828489
>mom transformation
>only benefit is a knife that trails behind you, can't be fired, and is so short that it will never do anything of any real value
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>Finally get a Devil Room
>Most of the time it's always Krampus
>Looking to get or replace an activated collectible? Always coal
>Hoping to get a passive? Always his head
>Not even the NO trinket is cockblocking the latter from appearing

Fucking hell I just want a deal or something I can actually utilize
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>>315830331
If there's no new items after 109 i don't give a shit. if there is then it's still not a big problem because i found greed mode pretty easy all things considered.
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>>315801324
wait how
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>>315829129
If you last played 1.3.1 then no, they haven't updated further. A healbox with the nurse inside and a weapon that hits through walls is still the best way to kill it
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>>315830058
>Mom gives an effect similar to guppy except with spiders instead of flies
That plus stompy should make it almost as good as Guppy, at least

The new transformations aren't complete trash, i guess, but they're just so outclassed by the old transformations that they're hardly worth it, especially once you've got a bunch of items and already look like an ungodly horror and can't see the cool transformation anyhow.
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>>315830528
Why the hell isnt the Fruit Cake in his rotation now?
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I got all of greed mode out of the way before the patch, so whatever
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>>315830576
More angel room layouts that are shitty making the odds of getting anything good even lower
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>>315830576
More designs with just hearts in them, some are even locked off. Angel rooms are worse than ever
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THE MASTER TROLL HAS ENSNARED US ONCE AGAIN
Is there anybody who can stop this cunning son of a bitch?
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>>315830576
I've only found two angel rooms since the update and both had locked (blue) chests inside instead of an item. First time I didn't have any keys of course and the second time I only had one, so I could only open the chest once and guess what, all I got was a penny
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>>315830576
He added a variation that just give you 6 FUCKING COINS.
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>>315830926
Those chests can actually give you nothing at all
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>Finish doing all the unlocks
>"finally, I can just go back to doing regular runs again"
>...
>close game
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>>315831016
Wow awesome
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>>315830528
>have tiny planet
>need to get coal for it to be useful
>it's the head
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>>315831016
>Have six keys
>Open both chests three times
>Get a penny and a soul heart for my troubles
Thanks, gambler's fallacy
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>>315793206
Death's touch got nerfed.
still good though.
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So is Blinding Baby still bugged in the newest patch, or what?
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>>315829206
Oh I got one
Mom transformation should make all of the tear modifiers from her items that you've collected come out 100% of the time.
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So what's the WORST new transformation?
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>>315831510
Really? What are the stats now?
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>>315831794
Tumors hands down
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>>315831892
>not the mushroom
It literally only gives you a heart.
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>>315831892
>Tumors adds the effect of dunce cap ON TOP of your regular shots
>Mushroom man is literally just a HP up
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>>315829680
In proper roguelikes the expectation is that you learn something about the game every time you die that will better equip you for your next run. Most of the time when you die in Isaac it's because you didn't get the right combination of items. Hell, it's not unusual to abort a run before you get to the womb because you know your damage output and survivability isn't up to snuff. Sure, with enough skill you can bridge the gap, but why bother when there's a potentially better loadout waiting on your next run? Playing a roguelike with that mindset, relying on the game to give you what you want rather than persevering through tougher parts, would result in very little overall progress. The problem with BoI is that that same mindset is a viable strategy for most players.
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>Arcade Room
>Still no arcade machine
wew lad
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>>315831892
Haven't gotten that one, do you lose your straight forward shots like when you get R U A Wizard? Cause if so that's fucking run ending, avoid babies like the plague.
I never really liked babies anyways. Aside from dry baby, that is. I'd rather do more damage myself then have to worry about aiming something that's following behind me.
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>>315832084
>>315832068
Tumors is glitches to all hell and randomly just gives you the dunce cap effect and nothing else.
Or maybe that's how its supposed to work, and you being able to frie normally is the glitch?
Who fucking knows with Nicalis
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Why isn't there a Cricket transformation?
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>>315832850
There's just 2 cricket items and they are rare.
Edmund really fucked up, angel rooms are dogshit and we got very shitty transformations instead of actually good ones.
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>>315833112
How bout a mutated cat Frankenstein monster from picking up Tammy's, Cricket's, and Guppy's heads.
That would be cool
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>>315832850

Because Cricket and Tammy aren't issac's cats.
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>Little horn in the big boss rush room
why yes I DO love playing hide and seek with explosives
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>>315833328
Yeah and also requires coding and not being a lazy fuck and Edmund doesn't want to do either.
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>>315827237
more like misteak am i right
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Nobody asked for this.
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>>315833914
What it do?
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>>315833710
Upvoted
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>>315833964
Homing ipecac shot.
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Ultra Greed is fine, I just beat him as Maggy, had fucking terrible luck the entire time. Greed Mode is EZPZ.
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>>315831841
Damage up, piercing, tear size up.
But now it lowers your tear rate by 3. Or rather, it increases it by 3. Whatever makes you fire slower.
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What transformation would you replace the shitty tumor one with?

I'd do a book transformation where you transform into a nerd get a permanent AAA battery effect for books only as well as increasing the rate of generating a library on the remaining floors.
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>>315834083
Oh, fuck.
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>>315834197
Zodiac Transformation.
Your body turns black/purpleish and is covered with stars.
Get flight and permanent compass/map/blue map because muh stars of guidance.
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>>315834094
Honestly, I think buffing the coin health was good.
But making him move around faster and having the coins instantly hit the doors is dumb.

>mfw he says he's still working on balancing it
JUST STOP. Seriously, we'll deal with whatever fucking shitty boss you put forward. But changing it constantly is really pissing me off.
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/r/ing this but Edmund
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>>315834161
That is a terrible tears down, but if the damage is still 1.5 it's worth it anyway
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>>315834197
Zodiac tranformation
Not entirely sure what the effects would be, just having it shuffle between three random zodiacs per room seems lame.
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I haven't seen any other item an an angel room other than this.
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>>315827278
When even Reddit is shitting on your game, you know you've fucked up.
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>>315822627
If you can reach the Chest as the Lost you're probably gonna beat it.
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>>315834652
Oh wait yeah what >>315834421 said
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>>315834421
>>315834652
now kiss

also there's already an item that gives you a random zodiac effect per floor
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>>315795074
>tfw my fetish
>tfw I just got a hard-on from a kid playing dressup as biblical figures
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