Pro Tip: Blizzard will be bankrupt in the next 5 years.
and you're basing this on what?
>>315729834
ayyy
Where are original devs of Blizzard now?
I've heard they are in Arena.Net, is this true?
Where are their main artists?
I'm Basing this on the fact that they lost over 5 million subscribers in WoW in the last year?
WoW is 95% of Blizzards income.
>>315730315
Split between Anet, Carbine and whatever studio did Torchlight.
Put all three of their games together and you literally have good WoW.
>>315729834
>Developing games with pennies while making a fortune off of them
yeah sure
>>315729834
The reason being?
>>315730616
>WoW is 95% of Blizzards income.
based on what?
>>315730616
their revenue isn't tied as closely to sub numbers any more, as long as the remaining diehards keep buying server transfers, level boosts, $25 mounts etc they'll be fine.
It's obvious that they don't rely on the WoW cashcow anymore, which is good for them but bad for WoW players.
You made me reply and i should feel ashamed.
>>315729834
>people are this retarded
>>315729834
I'd like you to explain how that's even possible.
Go.
I'm just saying.
>Everyone in this thread suddenly realizes that Diablo 3 sold 30 M I L L I O N copies
>"they're going bankrupt!"
I found the cancer killing video games, and its people with shitty assumptions like this
they literally just bought candy crush for like 8 billion, m8
>>315731065
well its not unheard of for powerful Corporations to go bankrupt or be in serious financial trouble.
However with being owned by Activision it is extremely unlikely that Blizzard could go bankrupt. If they start failing they could be liquidated into the rest of Activision, but the people would still exist/be employed just no longer have Blizzcon or slap Blizzard on everything.
Realistically, this might happen. The days of Blizzcon seem numbered. Even the biggest blizzdrones are starting to wake up and realize Blizzard is bullshit now.
it's like im really reading blizzard forums 8 years ago
>>315731260
>The days of Blizzcon seem numbered.
Are you retards going stupid again just because you would like to hate things to death?
>>315731260
Found the OP
Almost everything Blizzard releases prints money.
>>315730616
>WoW is Blizzard's income
>Not Hearthstone
>>315731396
Im not OP though.
If you are dumb enough to pay to stream Blizzcon just to be disappointed by everything, thats on you.
>>315731334
You realize their fanbase has shrunk by half right? Diablo 3 is a dead game, Starcraft 2 is nearly dead. WoW is at 5 million subs. (used to be 11 mill)
The buzz surrounding blizzard news is considerably less than it was and its still trending negatively for them. But activision is security blanket to ensure they all keep their jobs regardless of performance.
Blizzdrones truly are the biggest retards in gaming though. I'm surprised you havent mentioned the everquest argument again, or is that your next post?
>>315731260
>The days of Blizzcon seem numbered.
>hate assumptions the thread
>people think D3 was a flop
>over 32 million copies
>buy one time game
to put that in perspective
HERE IS THE TOP LIST OF COPIES SOLD IN HISTORY
>>315731678
>You realize their fanbase has shrunk by half right?
[citation needed]
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/hearthstone-now-earns-about-20-million-every-month/1100-6429654/
>Hearthstone
>20 million a month
>20
>million
>month
Nah, Blizz seems to have this shit on lock, scrub.
>>315731334
First of all, dumbass?
Second, Blizzard is constantly bringing flops to the community. Such as Warlords of Draenor and Heroes of the Storm (which has the lowest subscription and lowest amount of profit.) Based on numbers given during the latest quarter.
Sorry but it's fact.
>>315731678
>Diablo 3 is a dead game, Starcraft 2 is nearly dead.
how does this affect revenue....? are you forgetting it's 5million * 15*month?
Nintendo has something like 20 billion in their vault. Do you even know how much Blizzard has?
>>315731731
>denying obvious and widely accepted gaming news.
Blizzdrones everyone.
>>315731773
>heroes of the storm
>subscribtion
OP you're hilarious.
>>315731260
Blizzcon sold out again this year
>>315731814
no blizzard is dead
im an expert on this because i said so
kill yourself
>>315731773
Blizzard's lowest amount of sub fee for their MMO is still the highest amount of Subs for any MMO on the market. Heck, I'll even go on as to say that it's twice what FFXIV gets in sub fees.
>>315731832
So you got nothing.
>>315731678
>Diablo 3 is a dead game
Hey sperglord this isn't fucking WoW sales are sales, D3 sold 30 M I L L I O N copies.
>>315729834
>posting record profits every single year
>bankrupt in 5 years
Why are anons this disconnected from reality?
>>315731832
The figures that Hearthstone is posting seem to indicate it's growing
>>315731879
>twice
Much more than that.
All three of SEs MMOs add up to 1million subs total.
>>315731814
>how does it affect revenue
5 million is less than half of 11 million, I know you're a retard but surely that math isn't too complicated for you..is it?
>games dying
>how does it effect revenue
how fucking stupid can a person be anyway?
You can't possibly think blizzard will go bankrupt anytime in the foreseeable future, that's just retarded.
WoW is dying and on its last legs, yes. D3 is pretty much dead, yes. SC2 is dead, yes. HoTS nobody gives a shit about, yes. Hearthstone is a beyond garbage card game but it's still making them a gigantic profit every day.
Even with Hearthstone being their now primary source of income, they still will not go bankrupt anytime soon because Blizzard is sitting on a literal fortune. They've accumulated a fucking treasury over the years. The past 5 or 6 years especially, they have been putting much much much less money into their products (which is why they turn out shit), while still churning out a similar profit that they were before. They just make bank on every product they make now just due to the sheer lack of money they put into anything. They make something for pennies then get dollars in profits.
The upcoming movie is the only thing that's going to actually make Blizzard take a hit in the financial department. Even then, that's not a guarantee. The movie is going to be a hack flop piece of garbage, it's going to be completely awful, that is a 100% chance of happening. But even with the movie being a complete failure, it still may not be a financial failure, enough people might be curious about it for it to break even, or a very small profit.
Blizzard as a company is a complete failure at this point, but they are far from bankruptcy.
>>315731914
>Losing 38 key devs over a 16 year period
Why do people keep posting that, I think that is extraordinary for the video game industry.
It is totally ok to not like Blizzard games, what Blizzard has become or what Blizzard is doing right now.
But making threads like this just makes you look like a massive retarded /v/ nigger faggot.
>>315729834
they could literally reskin a mount from WoW, copy/paste the code to any of their other games and sell it for $500 a piece and it would sell
I wish
>>315731914
with that kind of resume
i dont think theyll have a hard time finding a job or looking for an audience if they go indie or kickstarter
god bless those faggots
>>315731678
>Diablo 3 is a dead game, Starcraft 2 is nearly dead. WoW is at 5 million subs. (used to be 11 mill)
Doesn't matter if diablo 3 is dead. They've sold 30 million copies of it. They've earned money from it by a fucking light year by now.
RTS isn't very popular anymore so I can agree on this one.
WoW is reclining because, well, it's 10 years old. People gets bored of doing the same thing + the older subscribers moves on for new games.
It still has the highest amount of subs of all the MMORPG that has subscription.
They'll only go bankrupt if Activision goes bankrupt. And we both know that isn't going to happen.
>>315732056
I know this is a lot, but the dev community is very inter-knit. A lot of people do freelance work sometimes and a lot of studios get broken down themselves or absorbed into larger studios.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of those devs only worked on a specific part of WoW because they needed the man power durin expansion time.
>>315732056
Because /v/ thinks that devs are some kind of celebrities and should never ever leave their home companies.
I'm waiting for the day that Todd leaves Bethesda just for the laughs on /v/
>>315731920
and when Diablo 4 comes out it will be lucky to move half that because trust in Blizzard is waning moving forward.
>>315731919
Yes, just the obvious truth staring you in the face. But apparently Blizzdrones dont understand basic math.
>>315731946
Hearthstone doesn't have all that many players, it has blizzdrones forking out copious amounts of cash to play it. That doesn't make them a popular company, that makes them great at milking the cattle they do have.
>>315732152
>It still has the highest amount of subs of all the MMORPG that has subscription.
This should really say enough. How many MMOs recently come out as sub based, and then have to switch to F2P exceptionally quickly?
Despite this WoW is STILL sub based. Even if their numbers are down they still have enough people to charge a subscription, and get away with it.
People really are delusional if they think Blizzard is going anywhere any time soon. Don't get me wrong, I don't have very good thoughts of them either, but I can at least recognize they're making a shit ton of money.
>>315732254
you dropped this (You)
>>315731946
not him but the only "evidence" he has is WoW is at about half the subs it was at WotLK. Other than that SC2 having that ded feel.
Although Diablo 3 is going pretty strong along with the new IP's they made, Casualstone and plebs of the storm.
>>315732056
What are you saying? Your statements are conflicting.
>>315732056
yes, this is common in the industry
but the graph clearly shows that blizzard has completely shed it's skin, going public and losing all the talent that established their core IP's, it's basically an entirely different company with deep effects on their game design philosophies
so it's expected their games turned to shit, there's no one to blame really
>>315732254
>Yes, just the obvious truth staring you in the face. But apparently Blizzdrones dont understand basic math.
I couldn't care less what happens to blizz. Their glory days for me is in the past. But you need numbers to back it up even if it is "obvious" in your opinion.
Yeah, and EA will be dead by next year, and Japan will rise again after mobile gaming collapses and they return to the console market. Not only that, but all these new AAA games have more depth and longevity than their predecessors and receive so much free developer support. I'm glad I live in this reality.
>>315732452
It's even more a shame that their only new IPs recently are blatant rip offs of other games, just with a Blizzard spin.
>>315731678
Hearthstone made megabucks this year
Diablo 3 sold ridiculous numbers of copies
Starcraft 2 also sold quite well
Heroes of the Storm seems to be going positively
Overwatch has millions of people signed up just to get into the PC beta and it will be on consoles as well
WoW has stabilized its sub count and to be honest seems to be compensating for its losses through token sales, the pet / mount shop and player services
They're going absolutely fine m8
>>315729834
Blizzard increased profits over 10% last year. They made over 50. BILLION. Dollars.
>>315732535
Uhhhhh
Vikings was a ripoff of Door's door
Diablo was a ripoff of Dragon Slayer in Arcades
WoW was a ripoff of Everquest
Hearthstone was a ripoff of MTG
SC was a ripoff of WC which was a ripoff of other RTS
you're kidding right.
it's not just new IPs.
>>315732254
>trust in Blizzard is waning moving forward
I agree anon. Let me give everyone an example: Say you buy a used car off of a friend, he gives you a fair deal for the car. However it turns out not a day later the car has a lot of problems that need fixing and now its more trouble than its worth. You can't get your money back because the sale was "as is." You are infuriated and upset that your friend would do this to you but he doesn't care about your friendship because he already has your money.
Years go by and the same "friend" is in a bind and could really use money. He offers to sell you or anyone else in your family another used car. Are you dumb enough to do it again?
>>315729834
You mean like EA and Blizzard's mother company, Activision?
Face it, fanboys hold up the gluttonous industry at this point.
The only thing you can be is a smart consumer. Otherwise, if you're just going to throw money at Blizz while they continue to screw you over, shut up and fuck off.
>>315732535
The thing about blizzard is they've always ripped off other games and for some reason makes them better and more appealing for the majority.
>>315732673
you cant even call them out on what they stole from right.
why should anyone take you seriously.
>>315732752
or maybe you're retarded for not studying the car/game yourself before buying it.
There are ownership contracts for cars, you can't "sell" the car back to him, there's a lot of shit you gotta do.
>>315732673
If WoW was a ripoff of Evercrack, then why is WoW still going while EQ is a rotting corpse?
>>315732535
>recently
>people are this new
>>315732870
What the fuck happened to Everquest Next anyways? I've never seen a WoW killer fade so fast.
>>315732752
This is why they're not concentrating on older franchises anymore. They're making new ones for new customers on consoles, phones and tablets.
The Blizzard to you and I is dead but is very alive ans well to this new audience.
>>315732870
Because Blizzard does what Blizzard does.
They take thing, give it the Blizzard makeover and then it sells a gazillion times.
Being a ripoff doesnt mean that its doomed to fail.
>>315732870
because everquest didn't have a lore backstory like WoW did on launch?
WoW had several games,books and comics behind it.
everquest didn't.
>>315732820
>>315732870
warcraft is a ripoff of dune rts though
also all their lore is stolen from warhammer
>>315732918
SoE shat the bed.
>>315732752
>comparing someone making a game you dont like to a federal crime
nigger you are an idiot
I'm really conflicted about Blizzard. I think all of their new games and new direction are shit but then they have the Diablo/Starcraft model of keep releasing quality content update for a one time purchase and I really appreciate that still.
It just seems that they have lost so much talent that it's unrecoverable in the short term.
>>315732870
Blizzard can't make anything original or creative, but they always made fun games.
I sleep with 50 women a night, live in an awesome mansion and have a never ending supply of cocaine
I also hold enough shares in the company to sell at any time and immediately retire
mad, kid?
Listen guys. We can all agree to disagree. But the fact of the matter is your childhood game companies are gonna go eventually. When companies start to refurbish their old games into new ones to sell for desperate coins, we start to see a decline in the companies finances.
Besides Blizzard, we can also see this in Bethesda.
This ABSOLUTELY true and there is no denying it.
>>315732752
Just woke up but I doubt I will meet anyone more stupid than you today.
>>315732848
Well let me tell you there were a lot of retarded people that bought Diablo 3 and hated it. But guess what? The customers don't matter because D3 was a SUCCESS. In fact Blizzard turned around and fixed the game but sold the fix as an expansion.
>>315733023
>Not happy that I didn't make a food analogy
You should be grateful asshole.
>>315733071
Blizzard is making more new games than ever.
>>315732673
>SC was a ripoff of WC which was a ripoff of other RTS
There were literally about 10 RTS out by the time Warcraft 1 came out. As far as i know WC and WC2 basically defined the RTS genre along with Starcraft
>>315733071
Even though profits just increased for the current quarter
Alright
>>315733102
What is wrong with my analogy? I will sit here and wait for you to pick it apart piece by piece if you want.
>>315733117
>implying your analogy was even remotely correct in any way shape or form
nigger you are a double retard
>>315733117
>Well let me tell you there were a lot of retarded people that bought Diablo 3 and hated it. But guess what? The customers don't matter because D3 was a SUCCESS. In fact Blizzard turned around and fixed the game but sold the fix as an expansion.
have you been keeping up with facts
2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 have been incredibly successful. It gave me like 200 hours back into D3 and I'm fine with the content patch. They actually listen to the playerbase and people keep coming back despite it being a non-sub fee game. In fact, 2.4 is already on the PTR and they're adding more stash space and increasing Kanai Cube functions while revamping the items people thought were shit
Eat your (You) and get out of here
>>315733130
WC took heavily from Dune 2, which, to be fair, is considered the father of what we consider an RTS these days. Everybody took from Dune 2.
People always rag on Blizzard fanboys, but have you noticed how the company attracted some of the most hateful retards that keep on shitting themselves in anger?
Its like the polar opposite of a fanboy. Hates absolutely everything they do no matter what.
>>315732954
Isn't warhammer just stealing from tolkien
>>315733071
>hearthstone making more money than wow in 2014
>HotS gaining money from disenfranchised lol players, game cost dick to produce
>going to millk SC2 retards once again for a limited edition
>overwatch hype, where even /v/ is excited, is through the roof
>SC2 most likely going to go f2p with skins after a while, ensuring a player base
>black ops 3 is a success despite the issues on PC
>modern warfare collection confirmed, going to bring in shit loads of money
>fat virgin NEET thinks activision blizzard is going to fail
>>315733130
dune 2 laid the foundations of the genre, warcraft and starcraft popularized the genre
>>315733063
I'm actually pretty fucking jealous of this guy.
>>315733359
This board has been shitting on WoW for 7 years
>>315732954
oh man you got it halfway right.
the orginal Warcraft was infact gonna be a Warhammer RTS but the deal fell though. they had got most of the game done at that time so they reworked it in to their own fantasy universe with designs closely tied to warhammer and 40K for star craft.
>>315733249
Define successful.
>It gave me like 200 hours back into D3 and I'm fine with the content patch.
Okay well I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it.
>They actually listen to the playerbase
What fucking planet are you living on? Because if I recall correctly it took them years to get rid of the RMAH, despite players wanting it removed at launch.
>They're adding more stash space and increasing Kanai Cube functions while revamping the items people thought were shit
That's fine and dandy but when are they going to add PVP? Something players were promised at launch? But I'm sure its on the way they are listening to their playerbase after all.
Eat Blizzard's Dick and get out of here.
>>315733454
>years
TIL less than a year is "years". baka desu senpai senpai
>>315733454
PVP is in the game, you mongolid.
Nobody plays it because its not fun.
At all.
>>315733406
funny how they started to hate it once it became super popular.
what is gonna be really funny is in about a decade from now /v/ will demand WoW is the best mmo of all time and all these newfag underage b&s dont understand how a REAL raid goes.
>>315733361
From plenty of places.
>another Blizzard is dying autismo
>the only proof is "I don't like them"
>meanwhile from the business side of things Blizzard is doing better than ever
>>315733454
They do listen to their fan base. RMAH wasn't their focus though, and to be honest, there was only a sound minority at first.
I was one of them. Although, I earned myself about 900 bucks on it.
Also, PVP is in the game. But it's shit. Can't say I enjoyed D2 PVP either.
>>315733406
Also playing the shit out of it and being nostalgic about it to no fucking end, i mean shit there's at least 5 thread a day about how WoW was so gud.
The love hate relationship with Blizzard games is pretty crazy.
i'm glad.
haven't played wow, but i didn't realise how much i didn't enjoy diablo 3 until i played 1 & 2.
i was disgusted.
>>315733519
Diablo 3 launched in may 2012, the RMAH was removed around March 2014. Checkmate sensei
>>315733569
>>315733691
Okay I admit I am a massive faggot then. I'm going to look into the PVP
>>315733361
And Tolkien stole shit from several cultural folk lore.
>>315733454
spread that misinfo.
im sure more people will buy PoE because of it.
>>315730616
>Hearthstone posts 10-figure revenue annually on the regular now
>this is somehow less than 5% of Blizzard's income.
Either Math or Reality isn't your strong suit, eh?
>>315733730
have you tried the true game yet
>>315733267
Fair enough. However when everyone is stealing ideas, nobody is in a sense. You can't talk about RTS games without talking about Warcraft series.
To me warcraft 3 was like the perfect game. Custom games was such a marvelous thing, and only recently did valve give custom game support to dota so the modding community finally moved on to dota 2.
We don't call every shooter a ripoff of wolfenstein or doom, so i assume we can say the same for RTS.
>>315733660
nope, blizzard's going to fail. pic related, it predicts certain doom
>>315733660
>doing better then ever
>"we d-dont wanna release subscriber numbers a-anymore"
>>315733631
>>315733698
the day the /v/ consensus of UO being the best MMO of all times turns into WoW being the best MMO of all times is the day I stop browsing MMO threads altogether
OP getting completely BTFO
>>315733767
Anon just wants to live in a reality where Blizzard is dead. Let the man be.
I want to live in a world full of lesbians, and you can do just as little to stop me from imagining that world as you can that Anon from imagining Blizzard is dying.
>>315733754
and the folk loreist stole that from natives.
the natives made the shit up to explain their world.
Good thing the cavalry's here.
This will sell 30 million as well.
Plus DLC and skins.
>>315733801
Ragnarok online was the best MMO of alltime
fuck you
>being a blizzkek
>2015
>>315733795
>thinking only WOW gives them money
How's in 2009?
>>315733754
Exactly it never ends. There is no such thing as a fully original idea anymore.
Its very common to steal aspects of popular things and call it your own original idea
>>315733863
Exactly! You get it!
>>315733795
>An 11 year old game is finally starting to decline
>Still has a million more active subscribers than it's closest competitor
>Meanwhile Hearthstone literally made Blizzard a BILLION dollars last fiscal year.
>A billion.
>One billion dollars.
>$1,000,000,000
Yeah, nah. They're fine.
>>315733869
>TF2 clone nearly a decade after TF2 releases
>It will still sell like hotcakes
So this ... is the power ... of Blizzard clones ...
... not bad ...
>>315733801
Sandboxes VS Theme Park
They can coexist, and both games were great for different reason.
>>315733769
i go RoS if that's what you mean.
slightly better, but it could only do so much
>>315733945
Yes it is. Are you high? It doesnt matter if it's a rip-off or a shitty game, as long as it's made by Blizzard it's not gonna fail
>>315731678
>Diablo 3 is a dead game
By what standards? Tons of people still playing that. Either way they aren't making much more money off it unless they make another expansion. Apparently it's still selling well enough that they're constantly churning out updates with new areas and new items and new monsters, doing seasons, etc.
>mfw serious acti-blizz-shills in the thread right now
>>315734010
They can't really make any money out of a game you pay once per expansion for.
Although, I heard china buys their micro transaction like all hell.
>>315733027
I'll give them credit for still keeping the Diablo 1 servers up.
>>315733945
>TF2
>TFC clone nearly a decade after TFC releases
>it still sold like hotcakes
>>315733881
But that's every single company nowaday even Nintendo is selling dlc and other shit now, it's over man.
>>315733795
Because people take it as a measure of performance when they just brought out the ability to buy WoW gold by purchasing an item which is sold on the auction house and redeemed for 30 days game time. The item costs $25 US which is above their $15 US sub cost.
Blizzard said it has completely absorbed all of the subscriber losses
>>315734062
Its like everyone forgot how anally raped we were at D3 launch. We're just turning a blind eye now and pretending like it never happened. Is this neo-neo /v/?
>>315733875
plz man
I can give RO the trophy of best massive player vs player in a MMO, but it took me 3 goddamn months to drop me a whisper card that's inhumane
>>315733983
the game design choices that UO got right go way beyond sandbox vs. theme parks
WoW doesn't even have housing come on dude step it up
>>315734092
New players. Met six people over the last year through work that either bought RoS or vanilla + RoS in the last year. And I work construction, lol. Also like you said, China micro.
Also the console version is popular as fuck. Hacked to hell and back, but.
>>315734153
>WAAAH I can't play muh game for a whole hour after it launched WAAAAAH
Jesus fucking christ, you people need to let this shit go already. The servers were unavailable for basically no time at all.
>>315729834
Who's going to drive them out of business? Let's face reality here: the core video game consumers are hopelessly addicted regardless of quality. TF2 and WoW are fantastic examples of games way past their prime, yet widely played.
Blizzard exploits the social aspects of games in order to make it harder for their fans to quit. Take a good hard look at both TF2 and WoW and you'll see they're just things to do while you smoke, drink, bullshit while on VOIP. It's not about the gameplay or competition, but rather a virtual hangout spot for people with inept social skills.
>>315734235
>this mad blizz baby
I think you might be more comfortable on there sub-reddit
It's pretty common for blizzdrones to lash out and cry when anybody mentions anything negative about blizzy
>>315734153
I'm not even sure what you're talking about. The server issues that were cleared up after a day?
>all these fuckheads not wanting blizzard to die
What the fuck is going on here on /v/ lately?
>>315734235
>implying that was the only bad thing about its launch
If you like blizzard having you by the balls that's fine but I'm not giving them anymore chances.
>>315734306
Bullshit. Unless you were on EU severs or something. I was there, you can bullshit me on this.
>>315734302
>Still this mad over servers being unavailable for about an hour after launch
>30505 hours later still mad about a 1 hour delay
>>315734262
It's fun to watch their strategies succeed
>>315734279
ding ding ding
this guy gets it.
>ever expecting quality from Blizzard post-Activision merger.
Old fans knew what was to come. The ones in denial, I felt for them once. No longer.
>>315734370
No, I was playing day 1. Disconnected a couple of times and there was some lag. That was about it.
You should critique WoW BC's launch more that had some very large issues for about a week.
>>315734373
I never even played Diablo 3 man
I could just tell you are being an ass-ravaged blizzdrone
>>315734327
shills, bro
i know i know that's the go-to excuse used, but no really. in this case its definitely true
>>315734489
>Doesn't even play the game
>Calls it a launch failure
>Goes on to be one of the highest selling games of all time
Call me what you will, but at least I'm not a fucking moron like you.
>>315734327
>literally the day after blizzcon
>everyone suddenly sucking mad blizz dick even though they showed practically nothing good besides a movie trailer
I wonder who could be behind these posts? Only 50 posters too hmmliterally shills
>>315734506
But mostly this thread has just been people dispelling bullshit that a couple of posters keep bringing up. I think most of us want to see them stop raping WoW, Diablo and Starcraft
Blizzard has their foot in every popular genre of game with millions of people playing each genre and yet people wonder how ANEONY can say positive things about blizzard.
>>315734506
yeah, the way they deny every bit of negative statistics and post "muh money from hearthstone" really does seem fishy.
No gamer is that braindead, not even the dreaded fanboy.
"we don't care no one likes our games anymore, muh money!"
what kind of argument is that from a gamer perspective? It defies logic and therefore likely isn't coming from a gamer but from a marketer/shill still trying to keep the blizzcon "hype" going.
Even just yesterday most threads on /v/ were slamming Warcraft/Overwatch, now all of the sudden today /v/ is full of people standing on their head to defend Blizzard...yeah...right.
>>315734572
How fucking retarded can you be? I'm not the first person you replied to
Nice job being a shit flinging retard
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So what are ya'll playing now that you realized you don't like hearthstone anymore?
>>315734327
Blizz deserves to die but the likelihood of it happening are nearly zero.
>>315734649
But who is actually supporting Blizzard in this thread? Point to the posts. I've just been bringing up revenue figures to contradict the assumption Blizzard is dying. I don't like what they've become at all
>>315734279
tf2 is a perfectly fun game still though
just logging into your usual no faggotry allowed server, playing against the usual guys you've been playing against for years and know their playstyle inside out despite never having exchanged a word, rocket jumping and shitting crockets all around while listening attentively to a new album you've been meaning to listen
it's pretty comfy, but yeah all the jew stuff with the hats I can't understand
>>315734204
This one time as a swordie I was hanging out at glasheim (back when making warps there was a thing)
So I was in a party I paid to leech exp off just sitting in a corner chilling and minding my own business when out of nowhereliterallya whisper slaps my ass, i fought it with my trusty VVS windI don't rememberthat my brother made me and killed that raging homo
>a card drop
>party members off to the other side of the map
>loot it
It took time for me to down the goddamned GHOST especially when every other faggot player just wants tomuse their sp on the zombies and kinda wanted me to die so that id have to pay some priest to resurrect me but it was worth it since I became the first swordie in my serverand townto get a legit whisper card drop through a 1v1 battle against a ghost
>>315734727
not a browser card game, that's for sure.
>>315734697
This, why the fuck would a gamer care how much a game makes for the company?
If a game is good, people will say it's good.
If a game is shit, then it is likely to be shit, no need to defend with sales figures and company profits.
>>315734727
I went back to MTG
Even though it's expensive and full of neckbeards it's better then games being decided on coinflips
I also like being able to interact with my opponent on there turn and use more than one brain cell
>>315734706
>I was just pretending to be a retard the whole time
Time for bed kiddo, you may not have school in the morning, but you should still get your full 8 hours.
>>315734727
Well first, thank you very much for asking anon.
I'm playing You Gay Ho 7 Trials to Glory on GBA
>>315734649
You are a goddamn imbecile Anon.
You think you are clever for spotting people who are marketers in disguise but most likely you are either a jaded man who doesn't enjoy games anymore or just trying to fit in an anonymous image board by parroting the same dumb shit buzzwords as anyone else.
>>315734474
Well that wasn't the case for me and my entire group of friends that were playing together at launch. I'm glad to hear you had no issues though. I remember trying to play Hardcore. do ho, that was fun.
I'm done sperging though I just need to cool off. Will you help me bb?
>>315734697
Because it's fucking retarded to say something is dying when it isn't, no matter how much you hate it.
>>315734727
I play hearthstone time to time. Maybe 5 games a day for dailies.
Might spend10$ on the expat since I don't have the gold
>>315734151
>Blizzard said it has completely absorbed all of the subscriber losses
There's no way even the biggest fanboy believes that. At best they're in their deepest lull since vanilla, to say otherwise is to deny reality. At worst the game is dying off and 15 months without any new content is too long, this move to stop publishing subscriber numbers isn't a sign of strength. You can't keep a 10 year old game polished and desirable forever.
>>315734936
Couldn't agree with you anymore. Hating something is one thing, but spreading misinformation is something only faggots do to get Yous
>>315734786
You just proved my point. You aren't playing it for the gameplay, it's just something to do while you listen to an album and hangout with friends. The most popular video games don't demand your attention anymore and that's a big problem.
>>315733128
>>315733373
You can make as many games as you want little dude, but the fact of the matter is nobody wants those games. They're making games not based on quality but based on quantity and trying to get grab the most cash they can with the little time they have left.
You'll start to see a trend in free to play games very soon. In Legion, WoW subscribers will go up to the 10-11 million range in the first month of release. But, within a couple months based on projections from graph charts the number of subscribers will drop to an all time low. In which they will be forced to make WoW free2play. THUS bankruptcy
>>315735003
Have you seen the demand for the WoW tokens? It's insane. Particularly in Europe. Every time they sell one they make a $10 margin over the usual sub fee
blizzard have got to be one of the wealthiest companies in video games with the retarded success of WoW + literally all of their games selling millions
>>315734857
Fair enough! MTG just takes too much travelling nowadays I think. I don't really live near an active MTG community so I don't think it's really a good option for me. I do have a bunch of cards lying around though, maybe it's time I get back into it. It's been a few years since I've played with any consistency.
>>315734887
of course dude, ur a cool bro. i went back to playing pokemon card game on gba because its the best meme ever
>>315734951
I've found I've only really enjoyed the last few Tavern Brawls. I hit legend 2 or 3 seasons ago and after that I feel like I acheived what I wanted and don't really feel a desire to play anymore. It's seriously just about playing a BUNCH in one month and that's not really much fun. You also have to play fast, boring as fuck decks until you are legend too.
>>315735049
Where can I read more
>>315734649
>they showed practically nothing good besides a movie trailer
that movie trailer was fucking AWFUL
it is going to bomb HARD with the critics, I can't even stand looking at it, it's worse than beowulf all because they decided to go with a dumb impressionist color palette, now it looks like a long ass cutscene taken from a videogame instead of a proper movie
let's not even get into the story, the reason video games don't translate well into movies is because the stories are all infantile subdeveloped ridiculous black and white power fantasies, even when they try to show a little complexity it is risible
videogame movies are never going to work and the warcraft movie will just be the final nail in the coffin
>>315735049
>, but the fact of the matter is nobody wants those games.
[citation needed]
>>315731205
lol blizzfags on suicide watch
>>315735116
They did pretty good before WoW too. I mean D2, Warcraft 3 and Starcraft had like a cult following.
>>315729834
I don't even.
>all these blizzshills on /v/
Fucking hell, what's going on?
I've started to actually like Hearthstone. It's simple and easier to learn than MTG and it's less random than pokemon TCG.
>>315735102
Yeah okay dude. Everyone moved over to using WoW tokens and Blizzard doesn't say shit about it or add it to their subscriber count because reasons. They just don't ever log on or play the game but still pay for it. Got it. Fucking excellent m8 you're a regular Sherlock Holmes.
>>315735283
>>315735254
It's almost like over 100 million people have played a blizzard game and had fun.
Anyone have this comic in a good image quality? It summarizes this thread nicely
>>315735319
it's babby's first CCG but i like some of the legendaries
>>315735338
It's kind of a subs fee since the tokens are first bought with real money being sold for gold.
>>315735340
>people say game is shit
>instantly redirects to sales figures and company profits
Yep, blizzard shilling is definitely in here.
>>315735340
It's not about that - I had my fun with WoD but I would never say that it was a good expansion and that it was a good game in general. Do not defend Blizzard's laziness.
>>315735184
uuuhhh have you been to Blizzcon this year.... because... yeah....sorry
>>315729834
How are we even discussing this? You are absolutely retarded if you think this OP. Stupidest bait ever.
>>315735446
What does that have to do with anything I said? Do you have fucking brain problems lad?
>>315735116
>>315735229
if they were doing so well they wouldn't have gotten bought by a bigger stronger company in Activation.
Logic: 1
Blizzdrones: 0
>>315735338
They are part of the sub numbers
>>315735447
The initial thread was saying blizzard was going bankrupt. Not about whether it was shit.
>>315735568
Then it's even worse than the guy I replied to is trying to make it seem.
>>315735045
the reason I play it is because it is familiar and comfortable so it's not too much of an effort but also because the gameplay still holds up, yeah it gets old from time to time, but every now and then I come back to it
but I get what you are trying to say, TF2 is not doing anything to advance the medium in any form (aside from testing microtransaction formulas, digital commodity markets and player-creator remuneration, all cancerous), just like Blizzard
>>315735513
>stocks over a short duration
Oh Lordy. Please graduate high school before posting. They still teach economics right?
>>315735593
But all evidence points to Blizzard heading towards bankruptcy within the next decade.
All points against it in this thread were just outdated sales figures and irrelevant bullshit to make Blizzard look better than it is.
Now can you blizzshills finally fuck off out of /v/?
>>315735513
Such as? I can only think of EA
>People actually defending the god awful launch of D3
Not just in this thread either. This place has become quite the shit hole.
>>315735254
I was actually with him when he said "You're getting a complete replacement to your current WoW game experience on all fronts", then I remembered he was a blizzdrone and defending that toilet of a game. This is why Blizzard is retarded, their expansions do not expand, they replace, and that's just wrong.
>>315735712
There has been literally no evidence to support bankruptcy. And for "outdated sales figures" they just posted record profits like, 3 days ago. Are those out dated?
>>315735712
You're not even the guy I'm replying to. Here's your you.
>>315735712
Suddenly its next decade
Also
>all points
What drives people to act retarded on purpose? I will never understand this.
>>315735513
Not sure how to answer that. I could give you a chart of another successful company everyone loves and show you a declining stock price the last hour, but you wouldn't even understand the point.
>>315735513
>Activation
You activated the (You)
>>315735635
It's really not that bad. I would estimate it's the equivalent of about 2 million lost subscribers
>>315735860
Are you retarded?
>>315731717
>Sales = Quality
>>315736025
So... the less it sells, the better?
Blizzard needs money?
all they need to do is squat in the corner and shit out Warcraft 4.
just think about all the xpac!!!
then they can do WoW2.
this company can never die,senpai :^)
>>315736106
Everybody knows that quality defines a companies success, not sales.
Thats why Ubisoft went backrupt a year ago.
>>315736106
So with your logic W101 is a fucking awful game and Pewdiepie is the voice of our generation.
GIVE ME WARCRAFT 4 BLIZZARD
GIVE IT TO ME
>>315736106
Are you fucking retarded or what?
We're saying that Sales doesn't = quality, then you imply sales = quality again.
>>315736203
he could be, but that would just speak more about the current generation than him.
>>315736106
The only reason diablo 3 even sold that much is because of its predecessors
>>315736310
This is a thread about blizzard going bankrupt.
So whats up with that quality strawman?
>>315736310
I don't think you got the sarcasm here.
>>315735712
as a business undergrad
you don't know shit about the principles of marketing and branding; financial health/performance indicators; bottlenecks and potential synergies within their productive structure; or how public companies or the stock market operate at all
you also have no idea of the long term strategies that the execs have in mind, like potential shifts to console and mobile users and even merger and acquisitions, which I'm sure are all based on deep analysis and forecasts of the industry landscape
you are in no way qualified to judge activision-blizzard as a business
but yes, their games have turned to absolute shit, despite any sales numbers shills throw at you
Blizzard are the most bankable dev in the world, everything they make prints money, how would they go bankrupt?
>all these faggots not wanting blizzard to die
What the hell is going on?
>>315735712
>Outdated sales figures
>Released literally 4 days ago
Kill yourself immediately
The undeniable truth is that WoW is Blizzards biggest source of income. With expansions getting worse and worse, all faith will be lost to blizzard by their customers. This is a fact because of the many other gaming companies going through the same thing. Like I said when I started this thread...5 years.
>>315736590
I'm pretty sure a minority wanted and wants blizzard to die even here on /v/.
>>315736651
Didn't heartstone gross more money within a year than WoW done like the last two or three years?
>>315736668
I'm pretty sure everyone that appreciates good videogames wants Blizzard to die and stop shitting on their legacy already, but wanting it does not change the fact that it won't happen any time soon, that's would be just delusional.
>>315729834
>>315736360
And WoW players buying all Blizzard games even if they're not a genre they've played before. That's guaranteed multiple million sales right there.
>>315736903
Thank god I was starved for a maymay. Trading sex for memes fellow anons!
>>315736651
Hearthstone is rapidly increasing its growth and already has income at about half of WoW. WoW is also selling tokens, pets, mounts, helms and character services quite effectively. They're not going to die because WoW is losing subscribers.
Though another 10 months of this Hellfire patch isn't encouraging
>>315736723
Don't know where you got those factoids my man, but you seem very confused so I'll let it slide.
>>315736904
All Blizzard fans always buy all Blizzard games.
Always been like that.
Always will be like that.
Its why all of their games have cross promotion shit now.
>>315733767
>10 figure revenue annually
>just Hearthstone
yeah ok mate
>>315736992
I was wrong, but Hearthstone did pretty good during its naxx release.
http://venturebeat.com/2014/08/05/hearthstone-and-diablo-iii-push-activision-blizzard-to-bigger-digital-revenues/
>>315730616
>WoW is 95% of Blizzards income.
>Hearthstone my good friend.
WoW was the kickstarter ...Hearthstone is the Jewish bank
There is no other objective way to judge the quality of a game other than pure sales and sales trends.
Everything else is just opinon.
>>315737685
literally argumentum ad jewery
>Blizzard's income is all WoW
too bad Warcraft 3 sold almost as many copies as Starcraft 2.
they could survive off of just Starcraft and Diablo sales, WoW was more like a launch pad into their CGi cinema venture.
you knew as soon as you fired up Starcraft that they had 10/10 cg cutscenes.
they also could've just developed DOTA sooner and charged for that, with all the microtransactions.
they even could've made Warcraft 4 and sold another 5 million.
pretending WoW was their only option is laughable, imo, i know we're on 4chan, but you've got to respect the scope of a company that accomplished, even if they are corrupted now.
>>315731205
Blizzdrones don't realize people bought D3 because of previous Diablo games.
Also, one of the reasons the numbers are inflated is because they counted the copies sold with that WoW one-year subscription promotion. If you take that out, then those numbers would be 1/3-1/4 less. Still a huge number, but it still goes to show how much people loved the previous Diablo games that they fell for the casual babby shit that is D3.
After everyone realized D3 is casual shit and pay-to-win (for some time), some of the fans of the previous Diablo games left. Some went to PoE. Some went to GW. Others played other games.
Seeing how "profitable" the RoS expansion was, which didn't even pull 1/2 of that 30 million, I'm guessing those who left stayed the hell away from Blizzard after D3. After being burned with D3.
They could've named it something else and it would've been mildly successful, but they need that "Diablo" name in there to sell copies.
D3 isn't even a Diablo game.
It's too fucking colorful and WoW-ish. How hard is it for them to use earth colors, neutral colors, make everything gritty, and make the architecture more gothic and realistic?
It's too casual that it was pay-to-win at one point. Loot drops revolved around the RMAH and them getting their cut. Yeah, they eventually killed the RMAH, but the damage is done.
It's too dumbed down that skills, stats, gearing, etc. are simplified. Part of the immersion in RPG games is how stats affect your character. It was bad when the game came out, then it got worse when everything was dumbed down to either Damage, Toughness, and Recovery.
They changed the story so it's like WoW and Warhammer-ish, because Jews are offended by a lot of the Christian themes - they took most of that away.
Bosses with cartoonish dialogue further breaks immersion. I know Metzen has a lot to do with the hammy writing and script, but this is Tumblr-grade horse shit.
>>315737759
Its not, its basic common sense.
Your opinon is just as relevent as the normies. Your money spends just the same, and blizzard is in the entertainment business.
They are better entertainers by appealing to the broadest audiance. A product that appeals to 100 people is better than one that only appeals to 10. By appealing to the larger crowd, they are objectively better entertainers and have a better product than the product that is only liked by the smaller niche.
>>315737194
>can't read financial reports
>>315738004
>A product that appeals to 100 people is better than one that only appeals to 10.
Literally argumentum ad populum.
>>315737912
>but the damage is done.
And it still sold a lot more than the previous ones. maybe more companies should ruin their games. Seems to be profitable.
>all these blizzfags defending such a shit company
Jesus christ /v/, what the fuck is going on here?
>>315738153
yeah okay you don't need to keep spouting your latin phrases to convince /v/ you're somehow intelligent
>>315738153
With a medium that is inherently subjective, yes, there is no other real objective way to go about it. Any arguement against it is just opinons, one countered by many.
>>315738213
Will you stop posting this? You got completely blown the fuck out in this thread. It's just pathetic now
>>315732053
The movie may fuck them up.
Remember when Square pulled the same shit? That's why they're Squeenix now. Whoever suggested that they should make a movie should've been forced to commit seppuku before it got greenlit.
They're banking on the Blizzdrones to ome in droves to watch the movie.
Would anyone watch a WarCraft movie? You know it's gonna be Horde "chosen people" shit, which will piss off a lot of Alliance people, who makes up the majority of the WoW population.
>>315738330
>everyone who doesn't have the same opinion as you is the same person
Why won't you fuck off back to reddit, it's more your style, fucking shill.
>>315737912
>people are THIS asshurt
