so where's the horn then kojima
>>315612349
I'm honestly amazed you haven't been spoiled yet
>>315612468
I just finished the game (and mission 46). The picture in the opening post is from MG2 in Zanzibar land. Clearly you didn't finish MGSV nor play MG2 and thus don't understand the problem here
>>315612625
The Big Boss in MG2 was the real Big Boss. It was the one in MG1 that was Venom.
>>315612349
The horn was a metaphor of Big Boss becoming a demon. No one else sees it, only the player who controls his actions. How retarded are you to not know it?
>>315612349
that's MG2
>>315612879
lol
>>315612829
MG1 SS infiltrates Outer Heaven
MG2 he goes to Zanzibar land
...In the epilogue of V Ocelot says BB is making Outer Heaven.
I guess this makes sense since BB ordered SS to infiltrate Outer Heaven in MG1
>>315613027
>Outer Heaven
OH is often tossed around in the series, Motherbase in PW and in TPP is referred to as Outer Heaven at times.
>>315612879
If that's the case then why do Russian soldiers talk about a guy with a horn?
>>315612879
But senpai, sometimes enemy soldiers talk about horned dude who runs around
>>315613150
the other poster is retarded
>implying Venom Snake doesn't also fake his death in MG1
>implying Venom Snake didnt learn from the best when it comes to faking your own death
>>315613119
So then why doesn't BB in MG1 have a horn?
>>315613027
You skipped the credidts, didn't cha.
>>315613154
>>315613150
>ITT: People who haven't played MGS5
There are no facts, only interpretations
Friedrich Nietzsche
>>315613217
Because it was 28 years ago and nobody would plan their series that far in advance.
>>315613282
So why the horn? MGSV could have been IDENTICAL except no horn and this glaring continuity error wouldn't exist
>>315613276
But he does have a horn, the Russian soldiers and myself saw it.
>>315613420
>Game of Thrones game
Why is the retarded theory that Big Boss and Venom were ever enemies still floats around? Ending scene begins with Venom checking himself in mirror, he sees his real face and gets all nervous, but then BB voiceover starts and when he says that they are both the Big Boss now Venom smirks, he is calm and collected now, scene ends with him smashing mirror to pieces and walking away proudly, he went from being unsure who he is and scared to accepting his part as other half of legendary soldier with his best bro. Also, he is head of Outer Heaven now, meaning real BB both trusts and values him. Solid just got lucky and wrecked their shit
>>315613420
>guardians of middle earth
For what purpose?
>>315613707
Big Boss orders Solid Snake to infiltrate Venom's Outer Heaven in Metal Gear 1.
>>315613282
Are you for real?
It's not a matter of
>why didn't he know 28 years ago that he had to put a horn to his character's design
but
>why did he retroactively give a horn to a character that didn't have one
>>315614051
Demons
>>315614051
it was all a ruse
>>315614116
>>315614263
I'm not interested in the answer, I was just explaining the question.
Kojima can't write
>We need an explanation for BB surviving the destruction of Outer Heaven!
>Even though this already explained and it's not unusual for characters in this series to survive such things
>There were TWO Big Bosses!
>Solid Snake killed both and wasn't shocked or surprised at all when he discovered that the second time he met Big Boss he wasn't covered in scars and had no horn whatsoever
It was a all a dream, he used to read word up magazine
>>315614620
Venom took a rocket launcher to the face.
Then the whole place exploded with him still inside.
Then NATO went and carpet-bombed the remains.
Even by Metal Gear standards, the odds of survival are next to none.
>>315612349
That's the real BB not Venom.
>>315614794
That's very non-canon.
Anyway, Zanzibar Land is the real Big Boss.
Venom is the one who dies in Outer Heaven, he had the horn. You're playing as him in MGSV
>>315612349
>>315612349
first this
>>315612879
second
Venom is in MG1
BB is in MG2
you are retard in so many levels it may be a win.
>>315615139
better than anything kojomo could come up with
>>315615380
That's actually far worse. And I didn't find the ending to MGSV stellar either.
Quiet's disappearance is ambiguous.
Big Boss would have no reason to contact Venom, though that's kind of the point isn't it?
They didn't work together, they created their own Outer Heavens, who different men, two different ideals.
And ending like that is completely silly.
>>315615139
We already know that anon...
The original Big Boss builds up the real Outer Haven and later gives control to Venom Snake.
Then one day Big Boss sends Solid Snake on his first mission that is to attack Outer Haven.
He was expected to die that, but instead he destroyed the whole place and killed Venom Snake in the process.
The in MG2, Solid Snake attacked Zanzibar Land and "killed" the real Big Boss.
>>315612907
They are talking about his penis
>>315615707
>The original Big Boss builds up the real Outer Haven and later gives control to Venom Snake.
No, no anon. Venom builds Outer Heaven.
>>315613515
>>315613959
You two are elitist fucks. I love RPGs.
>Guess who just refunded fallout 4
>>315614794
This image makes no sense. The whole point of Venom is that he dies alone, for a cause he didn't choose to be a part of. There's no redemption for him, he's the ultimate tragic character.
>>315616506
Venom builds Diamond Dogs which later becomes the Foxhound base where Solid Snake and Gray Fox are trained,then later gives it to Big Boss in exchange for the Outer Heaven base in MG1.
This would explain why Miller later abandoned Venom for Solid Snake and why he joined Fox Hound
>>315616795
How come you have only 21 achievements for 110 hours of gameplay? Do you like do only FOB?
>>315617056
Like I've said, I love RPGs.
I've just finished episode 19. All I do is gather materials, stack GMP, capture soldiers, build all the weapons and trying to S rank the missions. I've already built all of the mother base expansions and my staff are A++.
>>315616795
>Guardians of middle earth
>fun RPG
>not a shit moba.
>>315613192
>everytime you think you killed big boss, uou just helped create a new one
>>315613379
Because Kojimbo himself said he doesn't give a fuck about continuity anymore.
>>315614794
That shit was terrible, just so you know.
>>315613217
We never see a good image of BB or Venom in MG1.
