![knight1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/POgAjXf.jpg "knight1[1].jpg")
>Approach the boss, clad in thick Knight's armor
>I have just found the rare Makomoto Katana, forged by the great sword sensei Nakayama Kitamora two centuries past, and have upgraded it to +5
>I take a swing
>The sword is instantly bent in half and does no damage
>I switch to my longsword
>Take a swing. It just clanks off his armor. At least the sword doesn't break this time
>die because I can't do any damage
Would /v/ like realism in their games? Or would it make it less fun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q
>>315611813
>swinging at an armored enemy
>>315611813
Yeah I would like more realism in my games
>Approach the boss, clad in thick Knight's armor
>They can't hit me because their armor inhibits their mobility too much
>I'm basically naked
>Kite boss in circles throwing poop at boss
>Boss throws up in helmet, chokes on vomit and dies
>>315611813
"Realism" in games usually means the elements that are against the player are at a realistic level, but you don't get the options you'd have to deal with it in reality.
ie.
>enemy can kill you with a single bullet
>you have to to shoot them for half an hour
>enemy's armor deflects your light attacks
>you are unable to target the blatant holes and weak spots in their armor
Until they come up with proper VR, let games be games.
>>315611813
>fighting armored opponents
>not using blunt weapons
you brought this upon yourself
>>315614215
A weapon is a weapon dipshit
Would shooting you in the head with a ar 15 vs a sg 550 result in anything but you lying on the ground dead?
>>315614434
>A weapon is a weapon dipshit
huehuehue
the ar15 is the katana right? so its firing blanks, wouldn't be to bad
>>315614434
>derr durr slapping a sword against an armoured opponent will have the same effect as something like a mace a weapon is a weapon
>>315614434
>A weapon is a weapon dipshit
That line of thinking is so retarded I think you just gave me cancer, desu.
>>315613985
Did you not even watch the video before posting?
>>315614691
Armor has weak points in the joints. Or you can shove the sword through their helm openings.
>>315614434
>A weapon is a weapon
By that line of reasoning a nuclear weapon and a 9mm are both applicable to do the same job. Every job has its tool.
>>315614897
actually hitting a moving target into those joints and especially into the helmet opening is nearly impossible, you would need to wrestle them and use a specific heavy dagger
>>315611813
Yes and no. It's good for games to incorporate certain elements of realism into it, but it'd be hard to just go full-reality on it if you still want to make it fun.
I mean just the whole basic concept of a game, a thing you can save/load, repeat and start over breaks realism already.
>>315611813
>Take a swing. It just clanks off his armor. At least the sword doesn't break this time
>die because I can't do any damage
You can get that kind of realism playing Age of Decadence.
Sometimes you just can't get through your opponents armour. You may have to try to maked aimed strikes between it, but then it's easier for the enemy to dodge or block those time-consuming attacks. So you may die.
Or you'll have to try to dent the shit out of their armour and then bash them to death inside it.
>>315614784
nnnnnnnnnnope
But still, a naked marathon sprinter would be able to outmaneuver someone in heavy armor when it comes to just running away right?I just want more games where you can throw poop at enemies to kill them
>>315611813
>swinging a sword on thick armor
>sword
>on thick armor
>ever
Only an idiot would whale away at somebody in armor. Get a fucking mace.
>>315615526
Honestly it would work pretty well against the dudes in the video. They wouldn't be able to see if you nailed them in the face, they'd have to take off the helmet with their gauntleted hands. You could easily kill them while they're fucking with it.
Pickaxe, meet armor. OP is a faggot.
>>315611813
>Would /v/ like realism in their games?
No. Realism has never been fun. Reality isn't fun, it's why we play video games in the first place.
>>315611813
Blunt weapons are for armor or a stabbing weapon to go between plates depending.
Also long sword and katana or no more or less durable, Japan had crappy iron access and crappy iron makes crappier steel. Both are just a metal stick.
>>315611813
>guy in heavy armor
>swing my sword at him
>wow nothing happens
fucking retards making games casual and shit
Back in the day they used to fight in heavy plates until one falls down exhausted of the weight. Then gets stabbed through visor. The end.
>>315616270
>plate armour is heavy and hard to move in
When will this meme end?
>Using a bladed weapon (that isn't an axe) against an armored opponent
>>315616270
>exhausted
More like they clobbered eachother until one was knocked off-balance, then the guy left standing used his over-engineered can opener to poke him to death.
Knigga Reporting
I would rather be hit with a long sword or a katana any day over a baseball bat
With that being said an unarmored opponent can still be grappled and punched head butted or stabbed as they wouldnt be that much faster and way more vulnerable
>>315616408
>implying swords arent versatile enough to be anti-armor
>>315616853
They are, but only if you use them in a way that does not utilize the blade of the sword.
>>315616910
a weapon is more than its edge
>>315616816
I believe that you're reasonable maneuverable in armor, but there's no way you're going to win any sprints.
>>315616365
http://news.sciencemag.org/2011/07/heavy-armor-gave-knights-workout
literally google @ ur fingertips and u'd rather say something retarded
>>315615645
warhammer > mace
>>315611813
>Would /v/ like realism in their games?
no, it would be retarded, not to mention every game would probobally become difficult as fuck
>/v/ discussing ancient/medieval/renaissance fighting techniques
>/v/ discussing music
>/v/ discussing food
I loved that war of the roses had this. At least until they revised the armor system there were a shitload of glances if you hit metal.
Stabbing into the visor for basically an instant kill was the most satisfying shit ever when you could only nick the dude in the armor otherwise.
>>315616958
Deep.
>>315617275
Yeah, or lopping a head off with a polearm
If only latency didn't exist...
>>315617341
Simple bill for life. People hated it and never used it. But that game let you learn how to use your preferred weapon effectively anyway
>>315616978
That's wrong, though.
>American scientists
Lel.
>>315615069
many types of interlocking plated armor can be easily damaged and rendered inflexible by denting them at the joints which can be done with really any hard striking object
like a rock even
a naked guy with a carpenter's hammer could take down some nerd in plate armor
not to mention it really does not make you a more effective grappler, which is something it also offers you no real protection from.
>>315617459
Yeah you could be pretty effective with nearly anything, but the constant rebalancing got really boring, even when you learned to use something they change it and youcan start over
But all in all latency ruined any chance that game had - as well as the terrible terrible performance
>>315617670
I never had any issues with performance. But it did have some graphical glitches that started with the dirt puffs turning pink/cyan and eventually the whole fucking game goes into this full blown acid mode.
>>315611813
>realism
An excuse for shitty devs that can't make something fun. It has no place in videogames
>>315617861
It was probably the only game performing so badly I had to lower even the resolution from native, for the way the game looked its ridiculous how badly it ran and how strong hardware it took to reach 60fps
Varied patch by patch but it was terrible in the start
>>315617218
/v/ has always been full of casuals. Video games are their only real pursuit in life. Everything else is amateurish at best.
>>315617998
>Not wanting options in your vidya
Go back to your rehashed cods and degenerate some more in their sameyness
>>315611813
You can have realism and magic in the same game silly
>>315617218
Still better than /v/ discussing videogames.
>>315614434
Oh god why are people this retarded
>>315618245
Realism is the peak of sameyness, there's only one way you can do it
>>315615526
>marathon sprinter
>>315616958
True, but the original claim was that you shouldn't use a sword (as one would regularly use it) against an armored opponent.
And even if you do half-hand a sword, it will still be just an improvised blunt weapon and incomparable to using an actual mace or hammer.
>>315618920
>Half-hand
Mordhau, that is.
>>315618920
when facing an armored opponent you dont use a sword like you would with an unarmored opponent, you would use it as a crowbar to wrestle him down.
remember that you dont pick your enemies on the battlefield.
>>315611813
there are skyrim mods that add some "realism" when it comes to armor.
Heavy armor offers way more resistance but slows you down more, i think its possible for enemies to stagger just from hitting you with small weapons even.
Better than vanilla combat at least.
>>315619061
Yeah, but if you use a weapon like a mace, it will be equally effective against unarmored as well as armored opponents.
>>315620007
you seem to be forgetting that a mace has a handle where a sword has a blade.
a sword is easier to handle because of how balanced it is.
so using a sword as a mace isnt as effective as an actual mace.
>>315620007
Not really. A 1h mace won't have the power a 2h sword would when swinging. Not to mention less range. A 2h mace would do better but be heavier and prone to quicker opponents geting thru.
The enitre point of weapon variety was nothing was perfect. You didn't go in with just 1 weapon. You went in with a few and used what worked best in the situation.
>>315611813
>acquire morningstar
>rape everything
>>315614047
>"Realism" in games usually means the elements that are against the player are at a realistic level, but you don't get the options you'd have to deal with it in reality.
You must be playing some shit games.
>>315614434
>A weapon is a weapon
0/10
>Approach the boss, clad in thick Knight's armour
>swing at him with my English billhook
>it punches a hole in his chest
>use the other end to trip him up
>stab him with the pointy end
>cut his horse in half as I leave
Nothing personnel m'lord
![artf[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aeQHmaI.jpg "artf[1].jpg")
>>315620713
Forgot my picture because I was so excited thinking about billhooks
>>315611813
Man you medival autists are pretty autistic. Hell like most people pointed out you're not even good at being autistic.
>>315617581
Do you honestly think a noble in full plate armour with a top grade weapon could be brought down by a stinky peasant wielding a rock? Did you completely forget the thousand or so years the serfs were under rule?
>>315621414
>>315620781
>punching a hole in plate with a hand weapon
kek
not even the best pole weapon, pollaxes the best, billhooks are literally a pleb weapon
>>315615323
>You can get that kind of realism playing Age of Decadence.
This.
I really dig the combat in AoD, it's realistic in a good way.
You can spend ages trying to kill someone with heavy armor by trying to slash it, but it won't take more than 1-3 hit to the vital spots to kill anyone in the game.
Daggers can bypass armor, spears can keep your enemies at bay, hammers dent armor like crazy and such.
Fast, regular and strong attack, each useful against different types of enemies. Aimed attacks to bypass armor entirely if one isn't wearing a helmet, to strike vital points or fuck the ability to hit/dodge.
Heavy armor doesn't slow you down that much AP wise, but it makes you shit at dodging.
Ranged is OP s long as you are at range.
Can carry preloaded crossbow to unload them all at once.
Repeating crossbows have shit range, shit damage and are generally shit unless used against unarmored peasants or if you coat the bolts in poison.
>>315621515
>frenchmen btfo
But both sides were french.
>Would /v/ like realism in their games? Or would it make it less fun?
Yeah, it would, you have an amazing creative medium for interaction with a sprawling world and you waste it all on imitating fucking real life. What a load of garbage and an overall awful design philosophy.
>>315621739
>Yeah, it would, you have an amazing creative medium for interaction with a sprawling world and you waste it all on imitating fucking real life.
Unless you change the laws of physics entirely in said world, lack of realism doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever.
And no one is going to do that because it's too much work.
>>315621739
>if it's realistic it must mean it strives to imitate all the mundanity of everyday life
Why are you being so obtuse?
>>315621724
>implying the foot soldiers weren't basically all anglos
Newsflash: war is not particularly fun to participate in, and combat is brutal, not flashy.
>play RPG
>sword graces your swordarm for 1 hp damage
>you'll never wield a weapon again
>hero retires
>>315621609
Just excited about these billhooks, s'all!
I want to start doing HEMA becasue of Demon's Souls.
Kingdom Come: Deliverance anyone?
>>315622051
This.
Fuck realism in games revolving around war, unless I get to be the commander.
There's a point where if you make things too real, you lose all the fun. If war was so fun, we'd all be out fighting for our countries instead of having fun playing video games.
The only time I like realism is in survival games, and even then shit can get tedious.
>>315621994
Fighting for their french masters.
>you now realize that if the house of plantagenet won there would be probably even more greater gallicization in england which would result in the british national identity never being formed
What a waste.
>>315622051
This can be done right too.
>>315611813
I would love this, but realistically the average pleb on /v/ couldn't afford plate.
>>315613985
>Yeah I would like more realism in my games
apparently you wouldn't
>>315622405
If some king from a line of Frenchmen decides that he wants to go set some shit on fire in actual France he's OK in my book.
>>315611813
HALBERD TIME
>>315622051
I would quite like to play a game where you're fucked if you take anything but the most trivial damage, but your character would need to have sufficient moves and options to try to avoid getting hurt.
I think the Fallout series or something similar could do with that, maybe item scarcity and stealth would mean something if bullets were straight-up lethal.
Also maybe that leather gear would be less popular if the only metal part was on one shoulder and any non-armour piercing shot anywhere else was fuck you.
Imagine if a fight with some raiders would actually be a scary prospect.
>Holy shit what the fuck are you doing
Interesting that they are halfsworing almost all the time.
But I guess it gives you higher accuracy for those stabs at openings in the armor.
>>315622405
The Norman and Angevin kings didn't give two shits about England, anything french couldn't gain traction with the poor and only just with the middle classes. Hell as soon as English started to spring up the nobles had no choice but to speak it.
Simply wouldn't have happened unless they transported whole villages in France over to England.
>>315622780
I like how the guy on the left was so sure his opponent was gonna get bonked, and then he gets his elbow sliced.
>>315622865
Little point in whacking at someone normally when it won't hurt them, also I presume you wouldn't try other method when your opponent is half-sword to prevent things like in this fellow's image: >>315622780
>>315620713
>>315620781
the english army being good is a huge fucking meme
>>315622780
>tfw people on /v/ and in the youtube comments call the left technique; Half-Sword
>For Honor trailer
>HE USED HALF SWORDING GUYS
>>315615867
>No. Realism has never been fun. Reality isn't fun, it's why we play video games in the first place.
How is Mount and Blade one of the funnest franchises in recent history then? Of course the options at the time limited full realism but still it's the most realistic medieval simulator this side of medieval 2 total war
>>315618328
Amen brother.
>>315614434
except you are shooting M16 at a goddamn BMP. In theory, you may have slime chance to do something. In reality you better have LAW, or a buddy with LAW, preferably few buddies with LAWs.
>>315622780
Get a load of this faggot. Can't even hold his sword properly
>>315623128
Why are american soldiers retarded fucks completely incapable of being professional?
>>315623058
>being this autistic about sword styles from your video games
wait, you actual believe this style of sword fighting is anything other than high fantasy? rofl.
>>315616960
And ther's no way you are going to win any battles with sprints either.
>>315614434
nuke = knife
a weapon is a weapon after all
spear = rifle
etc, etc.
>>315623298
it's mordhau and you're stupid
>>315622945
Yeah, the same way the norman conquerors didn't greatly change the saxon culture and the english language?
I mean, I'm not saying everyone would just start speaking french, but surely the two countries being more closer by being ruled by the same dynasty would mean something.
>>315611813
Realism would make 99.99% of games worthless and no fun.
>>315623284
Their water is filled with chemicals. Tasted it when I went to the US and I could feel my brainstem calcifying. Now all I can say is 'Where Is The Burger'
>>315623284
and here comes the insecure minidick yurocancer like clockwork
>>315623532
It's true. The fluoride in american water calcifies the Pineal gland in your brain. It suppresses creative thought.
>>315623439
show me historical proof of that technique was used besides your medieval comic books. find me some kind of battle that was recorded that described this style being used. you can't. it's fantasy.
>>315623576
You took the bait fuccboi
>>315623439
>'Mordhau' english 'Meme Gay' was a combat technique used among German knights during the cockolding restoration. The technique was entirely useless and was nothing but a dank ass meme that spread among knights across european courts.
-Wikipedia
Hmmm...
>>315623284
It's even more petrifying to know that there are /a/utists serving in the US millitary, and in the infantry no less.
>>315623652
>historical instruction manuals created for teaching swordsmanship are medieval comic books
>>315623284
I liked the 'I fought the law, but the law won' one. The rest were pretty eh, though.
>>315623058
Just ignore them. Youtube and /v/ and reddit and pretty much everyone in the internet is pants on head retarded.
They think you can slice through plate armor with swords. That katanas are of high quality.
>>315623652
>you me historical proof
show me historical proof swords were used in combat.
>>315623284
you mean why 19-20yo kids, following daily military discipline, nevermention beign in warzone, look for any opportunity to have fun, or make fun?
>>315616365
The notion that plate armour turns you into an immobile turtle is wrong of course, but it seems 4chan has taken it full circle and now believes it doesn't impair your movement at all. Didn't you see his roll in the video? Obviously you get way less agile, even f you're still able to move decently.
>>315623976
What kind of GAY post is this? I'm calling the cops, enjoy jail
>>315624003
Last time I checked there was no conscription in burgerland.
>inb4 b-but it's muh duty to defend muh freedumbs
They have no one to blame but themselves.
But you know, keep fighting on the good fight for corporate interest.
>>315624109
>he doesnt know heavy armor improves your agility
It gives you momentum, so that you can run even faster, because the armor swings you forward. You can also jump higher because the moon drags you faster due to gravity being higher becauuause you ahve the heavy armors??
>>315614434
If a weapon is a weapon, then this wouldn't have happened.
>>315624186
I don't see how it invalidates my point
>>315615645
Or a Katana and just slice through it. XD
>>315623284
>he doesn't know about the italians
They are completely shitfaced at all times.
>>315624391
*unsheats pants*
*telepoos behind you*
ABU IS THIS THE DESIGNATED STREET
*breaks into dance number*
>>315624319
it doesnt
>>315611813
There's room for realism and fantasy
>>315624319
You're making it sound like they are being forced into a war, they're not, it's their choice.
>>315611813
That's not even full plate armor yourlegsis exposed,your joints too
Kek, post similar to this with full plate not some shit like this
>>315625274
You want elves to have eSJayW movement?
>>315625430
His point was they're just kids and will act accordingly Baka desu
>>315625430
they're still kids, man
brats younger than you have gotten into firefights and come back to talk about it on facebook
>>315612784
Point.
>>315611813
A proper katana wouldn't break, it would slice the knight in half.
Mount and blade has crushing, piercing, and slashing damage. If you attack someone in full armor with piercing or slashing you will deal no damage. Its not exactly that simple but simply put thats how it is.
>>315626431
>Japanese steel folded over 500 times
>>315626464
Mount & Blade also has acceleration based damage values, if you speed up your attack more by charging or being on horseback you will be able to punch through armor with weapons you normally wouldn't
>tfw OHK heavy armor by having the fastest horse and the longest lance
>>315625430
where did I say that? My point is that it's natural.
Contrary to opinions of some, joining military does not turn you into emotionless machine. If anything it makes your life more regulated and stressful, which is exactly why need to have fun and relax also goes up.
>>315623128
Cringy till I saw Racket Lawnchair
I hope that was written with Metal Slug on the mind
>>315626691
>some new recruit accidentally steps on a bullet
>it goes off making a chain reaction
Why are americans so stupid?
>>315623128
I am the LAW
>>315626815
lol europeans
>>315626827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCN0y4BHiGs
>>315626815
>bullet
>it goes off making a chain reaction
little piecies of metal can't exactly make a chain reaction, unless you talk about bumping into each other.
So why aren't you in the military anon? Don't you want to make your father proud?
to date, the most realistic game i ever played is still Bushido Blade.
no hp bars, no move list, no stamina bars, no time limit.
>start losing, the other person runs away
that's real.
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:
(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork
(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork
Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?
tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.
>>315627190
Because bullets are scary and hurty. And I'm a huge coward. Also, being the last male heir to my last name I need to have at least one male child before I die to pass the name on.
>>315628510
you're not gonna get laid sitting here faggot
go and make your testosterone levels worthy
>>315627190
>make your father proud
Not when he is a shit father.
>>315628356
You forgot Sacred blacksmith gif.
>>315627190
Dying for stupid causes is not exactly right up my alley.
>>315628801
you already live for stupid reasons
don't confuse a sense of higher purpose with a sense of higher meaning
>>315628356
Good pasta
>>315628908
Living beats dying.
>>315627098
also these are clearly empty cases
>>315627190
Because I'm not some mindless sheep that needs to resort to murdering strangers to get paid. I have an actual skillset.
>>315628998
living is a question and the answer is death
how good will be your answer?
>>315629009
I never said they wasn't, I was quoting.
>>315629080
Why should I care? I will never hear my own answer, because I'll be dead.
Also, you make it sound like every soldier dies a meaningful death.
>>315627190
I was. Not to solve my daddy issues though
>>315629205
you're going to know whether you died at the peak of your life or withering assaulted by regret
>>315620007
>it will be equally effective against unarmored as well as armored opponents.
No it wouldn't. Blunt weapons didn't ignore armour. Rarely were they even able to dent armour. It was simply that more force would be translated through to the person underneath than with an edge. The armour still massively reduced the damage. The most effective method against plate armour was always grappling and stabbing into weak and open points, it's just that blunt weapons were the easiest method to do at least some damage (and usually to attempt concussion rather than damage the body or limbs).
>>315611813
>+5
>Realism
Nice try anon.
>shit swordfags say
Use a real fucking weapon
>>315629309
Regret over what? Not throwing my life away for one of the many causes I don't even believe in?
You have one life. Only someone unwise would gamble all of his money on one unsure bet.
>>315628356
>>315629556
>The single most prevalent and constant sidearm across all classes in warfare for millennia aren't real weapons
Are you legitimately retarded?
>I have just found the rare Makomoto Katana, forged by the great sword sensei Nakayama Kitamora two centuries past, and have upgraded it to +5
Where did you find it?
>>315629729
Not that Anon, but sidearm is a keyword here.
>>315629729
>implying swords can do anything against armor
are YOU legitimately retarded?
>>315629993
But they can.
They aren't optimal, but they can.
>>315611813
>basically wrestling and pinpoint one hit KO thrusting moves
FUCKING FUND IT
>>315623069
>moutain blaze
>fun
>>315629556
sword is assault rifle of old times.
For every job it does, there's weapon that does it better. But none of them can do half of its jobs.
>>315623780
all japanese young male read mange watch anime at some points in their life and work in many different position. What is terrifying about some guy reading comic, watching cartoons joining the army?
>>315613985
The armor wouldn't hinder his movements. This isn't toontown bub
>>315614897
A heavly armored trained knight (not a pansy man at arms but a fucking appointed knight) letting you get close enough 1 on 1 without sheild bashing the shit out of you if you're lucky.
How about the game has grapples and can be countered and blocked etc, like in wrasslin games, the idea is that with heavily armoured enemies you would wear them out with attacks and then grapple them to hit the small exposed areas, which is the only way to actually kill them. Never seen a game with melee weapon combat really do "grabs" even though it would make sense.
>>315630647
I'm fairly sure someone without armor is capable of running faster and longer than someone wearing one.
>>315631049
If you are running away from the knight the knight wins, all he has to do is stand there.
>>315631369
Unless you throw shit at him, or gain enough distance to shoot him.
Fuck off I just want to have my crazy animu sword combat action not watch a bunch of neckbeards trying too hard to make the combat into what they thought was realistic based on some history books and a bunch of faggots doing some bashing themselves with blunt swords and shitload of protection where some shitty pointing system decides all the "sport".
Not to say all of those ideas are dumb from the very beginning because nobody can translate it all to a workable control scheme and implementable mechanics.
>>315621881
WHAT? WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?
>>315631538
The knight is armed with a kitesheld, and a mace along with an arming sword. Unless you're an lowbowman and its a cover less environment you are fucked.
>>315611813
So the best way to kill each other there would be to knock the other one over and then jam your sword straight up their anus?
>>315614434
I mean, a sig and an ar15 shoot the same caliber, so so long as you fire the same load (M855, m193, mk262) it should be the same effect, given minor differences in velocity due to barrel length.
a katana and a mace do damage in different ways.
>>315611813
>implying people wielding fantasy weapons made out of fantastically hard metals with strength far beyond that of the normal human wouldn't be able to cut through armor
>>315632196
>Unless you're an lowbowman and its a cover less environment you are fucked.
Or a crossbowman.
And I don't really see how cover would help- if I'm read to shoot, what stops me from getting close enough to shoot and running away again? Surely getting hit with an arrow/bolt would be enough to buy me enough time to run away again.
Are there any historical sources describing a 1v1 duel between heavily armored knight and a longbowman/crossbowman? It must have happened at one point.
>>315632602
His armor is made from unobtainium and then it was blessed by the anime gods. Lil shitter has no chance
>>315632602
>weapons are made from fantastically hard metals
>but somehow armors are not
>people have strength far beyond that of the normal human
>but no the resilience
>>315632705
Imagine the banter at a stand off.
>>315632602
>Hard
Guess what's harder than raw iron?
Glass.
>>315633036
He was talking about hard metals, not ceramics.
>>315611813
>hit him with a well placed crossbow shot.
>Wait for him to bleed to death
Lol gg nobleman fag.
>>315614897
Well to be fair if he is a knight he would be on horseback. The warhorses they had back then were quite large and were trained to bite,kick and stomp on enemies.
>>315633192
>Better not be a heavy crossbow
>Better not be close enough for retaliation if you miss.
>pray to god he isn't on a horse
>>315622051
Even chainmail would protect you from glancing blows.
>>315633475
>pray to god he isn't on a horse
That's cheating, what if I'm on the horse too?
>>315633950
What if he's on two horses
>>315634002
>>315622415
what game
>>315633950
A knight usually fights on horseback, enen if you get a horse you are at a disadvantage. And if you're going the crossbow method on hoseback.... Good luck. Use a lance or even a flail
>>315634002
That would be too much for me to handle as a footsoldier.
I wouldn't be able to continue my job and I would want to go home.
>>315627190
I tried i was medically disqualified. Hopefully when the next war starts they will start handing out waivers like candy again.
>>315611813
Why not just using a bigger sword?
>>315627190
I'm a huge babyman coward with lewd anime figures.
I'm gonna join the RCMP though.
That way I can keep my lewd anime figures.
>>315634241
>And if you're going the crossbow method on hoseback.... Good luck.
It's not like you can't reload a crossbow on a horseback, that's what pull level and crank designs are for.
>>315633950
>on the horse too?
>the
>this implies you're on the same horse as him
anon pls, what are you doing riding with a knight
>>315634170
Age of Decadence.
>>315634501
Going sneaky beaky like.
I ain't gonna miss if we sit on the same horse.
>>315627190
Dad was in the army and eventually the UN. He actually warned me against joining the military.
>>315634586
This looks like a really enjoyable game, thanks anon!
>>315634647
But what if he tries to seduce you mid gallop, i mean why else would he elt you ride on his horse with him
>>315622415
>The motherfuckers...
That last sentence is so cringe and unnecessary. Would've been just fine without it.
>>315634716
It is, as long as you don't mind shit graphics, not being able to master everytyhing and dying a lot at the beginning.
>>315614047
Survival games are the worst for this
>Have to start a fire.
>Moss and leaves hanging from trees, table cloths, curtains etc.
>Can only use paper or special moss that only exist in small amounts.
>Holding a hatchet and surounded by dozens of wooden chairs and tables.
>Can't cut any of this stuff up, have to use precut firewood that you find in unlikely places.
>Need food, will literally start dying if you don't eat like an American every day in the game.
>Barely need any water.
>>315634491
>Focusing on reloading mid gallop with an agngry fucking knight closing in on you with his thurobreed top of the line horse his lord graced him with.
You better have nerves of steel.
>>315634752
Some say love is stronger than anything, but bolts shot from point blank range are pretty strong too.
>>315634997
I wouldn't really have any choice, would I?
>All these fags not using an axe
What the hell is wrong with you?
>>315631049
So would you say someone who weighs 20kg more than you has inhibited movement and sucks at running to the point where you can beat him easily?
>not just throwing a pilum at their weak spots
>>315611813
>swinging a sword at a heavily armoured opponent
>realism
try retarded
Use a warhammer and suddenly this whole fight changes.
>>315633157
Never seen hard steel shattering like glass?
Hardening makes steel brittle, tempering makes it tough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FClJ1M64kc
Can I pierce a steel armor if I trust a glass dagger through it?
>>315636783
What is the shape of the dagger? What is the thickness of the armor? What is the force of the person thrusting the dagger. It could be possible if it was a fat extremely short cylindrical dagger sharpened to a point and you have enough force. This is if couse if the knight is wearing thin ass plate with no mail or cloth underneath whatsoever
>>315636065
>roman pilum
>used for throwing
>>315621515
Daily reminder that the english bow>french knight is literally wwii paratrooper>german tank propaganda.
The only function of the longbow was as deterrent for unarmored cavalry charges in conjunction with stakes.
The sources from the time talk about arrows bouncing off plate and the men at arms worrying about arrows slipping inside the visor and nothing else.
Th english knights who did the actual killing wore heavier armor than the french.
Also, the english lost most of the time and ultimately lost the war, that's why the couple battles they won are so remarkable. And most of the deaths were pows, that is people who survived the arrows, survived the melee and ultimately surrendered, but were slaughtered while in chains.
In addition the french tried using longbow mercenaries later on and they were literally a joke with songs and illustration being made about how useless bowmen were.
And Warren Ellis is an edgelord
>>315624287
Bad example, see Zulu dawn.
Even in Zulu both forces had rifles and the British were often using bayonets
>>315632205
Yes.
