>Everyone hates aimbot
>Sentries are completely fine though
???
>>315602926
>Sentries are completely fine though
Could've fooled me, judging by the fact that shitters complain about sentries all the damn time.
>>315602926
learn to play issue
>>315602926
it doesn't move, unlike players
it can be picked up and put somewhere else, but it never truly moves.
Players move.
If they use aimbot, there's nowhere to hide. that won't miss and you can't do anything about it
you can do things about sentries
don't act dumb, OP
>>315602926
false equivalence is a fun way to bait
>>315602926
sentries are retarded and immobile and they take time to rotate so you can circlestrafe them / if you catch them unaware they cant attack u fast enough before you unload 3 rockets into them
obvious bait aside minisentries with their +50% whatever rotation speed are aimbots though
Sentries have always been retarded because they can effectively remove Scout from the game on certain maps, whereas no other class has that kind of effect on the game.
>Sentries are completely fine though
You don't play around many Scout mains, do you?
>>315602968
>>315603008
>block an entire area for 7 out of 9 classes
>the single reason why stalemates even exist
>Just get good its fun lol xDD vagineer derpina rancho relaxo
Sentries are not fun. Every time there is one I just have to switch to soldier and tryhard my team to victory
>>315603234
Just corner peek them.
>>315603234
they die easy as fuck. how about you l2p
>that time your sentry remained active on the loosing team and slaughtered the winning team coming to rape everyone in the spawn
>>315603213
>>315603220
>muh scouts
Classes are allowed to have hard counters
>>315603234
>7 out of 9 classes
Scouts can use walls to hit them quickly and run back to safety
Soldiers use any rocket launcher, especially the Direct Hit
Pyros can take advantage of the flamethrower's weird hit detection... thing OR airblast the rockets back and possibly kill the engie outright
Demos can not be a demoknight
Heavies can kill them if they are close or around a corner
medics can uber someone to easily take out the sentry
spies can do anything to take them out
7 out of 9 classes can deal with sentries.
>sentries are literally the equivalent of two heavies and 4 soldiers pocket medics
>valve thinks this is okay
>>315603621
snipers can get line of sight from further away than most characters, and can take them out in two full-charge shots
literally the bane of sentries on viaduct
>>315602926
Hit them once with t cow mangler and it EMPs them for like 5 seconds. It basicly turns the into bricks for your team to wreck easily.
Get good, negro.
>>315603793
>Bane of sentries
What is the Stickybomb launcher or Direct hit?
Direct hit can 2 shot a sentry and 3 shot a wrangled one.
Scout>Sentry>Spy>Pyo
Learn2Play
If sentries and ubers weren't in the game, TF2 would be a lot more fun
prove me wrong.
>>315604251
hey silkee
>>315603793
>>315603621
all this assumes that there is no engie at the nest, he has no support, and the sentry positioning allows for any of this
which really means you are arguing that empty engie nests are easy to destroy, which no one is arguing against
make these same arguments for 3+ nests with full time engines, at the last point with full spawn and team support, and you might not be talking out your ass
>>315604353
Without sentries spycaps/backcaps would be happening every game unless you have 1 guy just standing on the point waiting.
>>315603032
Engis can pick up and move sentries now fagbag
An unbalanced game is more fun than a balanced one, desu
>>315604510
>make these same arguments for 3+ nests with full time engines
Its easyif you can get a team of shitters to cooperate for a coordinated attack with ubers and kritz
>>315604609
you didn't fucking read his post fagbag
>>315604648
>>315604648
Bullshit
Its not even easy if you have all that coordinated
>>315604510
and that implies that you're the only one taking on this engie stack
>>315604364
Silkee?
>>315604723
all of the bad examples stated that you could alone dipshit
Read a quote chain BEFORE you respond to it
>>315604510
All you need is one medic with uber and a competent demoman to destroy an enginest with turtle engies
If the engies are competent then youll need 2 uber demos. Its not enginests are impossible to destroy
>>315604657
lol
>>315602926
Do you level 2 sentries shoot faster than level 3 sentries?I need an answer for the sake of shutting some faggot who says that it does
>>315604794
No one said they are Impossible, just take relativity way more effort than anything else, and the entire game is defined by this one boring aspect
>>315604719
1 person alone can easily take out a sentry you gay nigger
>>315604886
no, its doesn't.
>>315604793
>Take on 3+ nests with full time engines, at the last point with full spawn and team support
>Alone
>Complain that you can't
Are you genuinely retarded?
>>315604886
They are the same
128 dps each
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Sentry_Gun
but the statistics come out to lvl's 2 getting more damage out because people don't prioritize them
>>315603621
>Scouts can use walls to hit them quickly and run back to safety
Super vulnerable while you do this.
Not a good idea.
Pyro requires bad placement (which isn't all that unoften) but still means you need to stand there and make yourself open.
Those two are particularly vulnerable to sentries if they fail or even if they are partially or wholly successful.
Not good classes to take out sentries. Especially if the engy uses the rescue ranger or just repairs the sentry.
>>315605005
>expecting teamwork in this year of our lord 2000 + 15, in hat fortress forever
>>315603354
Can't do that if there's literally one person of any class, including in some cases the Engineer, in the same area.
>>315604886
It either does or the bullets have more knockback.
I remember playing Saxon Hale and the only way to beat him was to keep Sentries at level 2 so that he could never even approach you, then some new guy would upgrade them to 3 and then everyone dies.
>>315602926
sentries cant move dip shit
sentry is pretty much all an engi has so it HAS to be good
>>315605134
you can leapfrog 2 m8
Name one other class that can effectively stop you from playing another class. Even if you have 4 pyros a spy can still continue to play...
Go Demo or direct hit soldier. Maybe even a spy if your not one of the 7 on the team already
WOW SO HARD
>>315605152
Actually, I just minisentry in an obvious spot and then use frontier justice to BTFO enemy heavies.
>>315605093
>Bawww! Why can't I take out the entire team alone at their spawn! Sentries are broken! ;___;
Faggot.
>>315605093
So its the communities fault then for being retarded
why are we complaining about sentries then?
>>315605246
You have to admit engies are the only class who need class limits on by default
>>315605131
Saxton Hale servers are chocked full of mods like alternate dispensers, so your server may have just added that feature as an alternative to lvl 3's and it just happened to be the most effective tool
In vanilla servers lvl 3's have the same if not more knockback due to rockets
>play mini/frontier 24/7
>the tears
>they keep flowing
>MMMMHHHhhh
>>315605262
Because I don't have to depend on shitters for anything else
>>315602926
You'd start to complain if it had legs to walk with.
>>315605312
I don't really care because anyone except BR's and preteeens stopped playing this heap of shit when it went F2P.
You're a retard.
>Play Engie on Defence on Gorge Event
>Only one other on team
>Set up Sentry in pit to take out enemies coming to sniper to the right of the point or attack anyone on bridge
>Score 7 kills before BLU actively goes out of their way to send atleas 5 players to ruin my spot
>Finally die and pass other Engie also coming out of spawn
>He has a Gunslinger
>Leave server
I don't deserve to play with those kinds of people...
>>315605495
If you really don't care why the fuck are you responding?
>>315605461
Mini
Frontier
Wrangler
Am I the cancer?
>>315605587
Why bother with the wrangler?
>>315605663
I have no clue and I'm probably going to switch to the stock pistol.
>>315604784
THEY CALL ME SILKEE CUZ IM SMOOTH WITH THE LADIES
IF SKILLS WERE CARS ID BE A MERCEDES
CAESAR SALAD YOURE THE ONLY POTATO
WHEN I WIN THE MATCH ALL THE LADIES WILL SAY
OH
THATS RIGHT
SILKEE
BOOM BOOM
YALL KNOW ME
SURFIN
FRAGGIN
IM SILKEE THE BOOM BOOM KING
>>315605545
Because picking on children crying because they lost is easy.
>>315605461
What do you think about the mini change?
>>315605725
Then its not much of an accomplishment is it?
>>315605774
Who posts here in order to accomplish anything, retard?
>>315604510
So you're saying that in TEAM Fortress 2 you need TEAMwork to take out an engie nest, while the other TEAM will naturally try to support the nest to lock down the point?
Crazy.
>>315602926
see
>>315603354
>>315603621
These.
The fuckers are immobile. Engineer has to move them himself and that means no defense, kill him and you kill his sentry.
>>315605868
Then why bother if it doesn't validate you?
Then why does it matter if its easier?
Just keep digging that hole, I'm sure china is just another shovel full away
>>315606007
Why do I need to be validated?
When does showing retards their retarded ways ever become a challenge?
Who's digging what, retard? You were proven to have no sensibility by someone posting without aim, how pathetic are you?
>>315606090
>heavy gave me a boner
I've been here too long
>>315605461
>initiate votekick against minisentryfags even if I haven't been off their team once
>kicks go through a nice 80% of the time
>>315605005
>>315605246
>>315605935
So one guy doing nothing just putting a sentry down warrants 3+ skilled players to work together?
>>315606323
>Can't even read
Give it another shot, champ.
>tfw circlestrafing a level 3 sentry as scout
>>315602926
team FORTRESS
Don't sentries have shit range though? I haven't played tf2 in years but I seem to remember them not shooting very far
ITT: people who don't play TF2 with friends and medipair to destroy everyone and everything when necessary
>>315602926
>>315606628i don't have any friends that are good enough to stomp everyone while being pocketedor friends
normal sentries are nothing special, if anything mini sentries are more useful because how unexpected people are against them
and i only played in 24 man at least servers back then
>>315606669
I'll play with you if you want. Post your Steam.
>>315605461
>Always hated the mini sentry because it allowed for offensive engie with absolutely no thought or planning
>Start going offensive engie with stock + Frontier Justice out of spite
>Just put level 1s in out of the way corners or ambush spots
>Destroys entire fucking groups because everyone ignores level 1s to fight my teammates despite the crazy DPS lvl1s have
>1v1 soldiers, demos, and heavies with my constant crit shotgun + pistol combos
Fuck minisentries, just use the stock
>>315606831
quit
>>315602968
Sentries are only OP in pubs where team coordination is nonexistent and the defending team has twelve engies which cause endless stalemates.
Classes like heavy, pyro and engie all have low skill floors but get destroyed against a decent team, which is why shitters complain about them yet they're the butt of every joke in high levels of play.
Valve even said the entire point of sentries is to slow the game down.
>>315603793
you have to be clinically retarded to place a sentry where snipers can shoot at it safely.
>playing tf2 after the engie update
>>315606776id/uglygirlsandboys
>Spy uses Cloak
>Sentry cannot see them and can't shoot them
>Aimbot cannot see them, shoot them to death anyway
>>315606090
Dark times, man, dark times...
>>315602926
>slow rotating auto firing targeting system that requires line of sight and only extends to a certain range
>aimbot
okay lad
>>315604353
>no uber to help your team push through choke points and take out sentry nests
>no kritzkrieg to constantly pressure the enemy with crits
>no quick fix to spread heals and keep your team alive longer>vaccinator is objectively shit anyway
Are you fucking retarded?
>>315605705
Wat
>>315606881
Level 1's are also easier to hide in bushes, minisentries have that retarded light.
>>315606881
>stock wrench
