Who is your main /v/?
>>315592980
Marth. sheik secondary.this and 3rd strike are the only fighting games ive had fun with in years
>>315592980
Link
Metroid
>>315592980
Guess
>>315592980
question man
he's the best
Falco, I love shine pressure. Marth is my secondary
>>315595454
idk but you have sick taste
>young thug in foobar
>young thug in soundcloud
thought i was looking at my own monitor desu
>>315595627
Stay mad nigga, thugger is da best
>>315593159
Smash Bros isn't a fighting game.
>>315595454
>windows taskbar on the right side
my nigga
>>315592980
>>315595842
>Opera
But why?
No tech skill, no problem
>>315595941
i have some weird pop-up virus shit on firefox and I don't have the technical skills to deal with it so fuck it
MARTH
FAIR FAIR FAIR FAIR DAIR
HNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
>>315595795
whatever floats your boat.
>>315592980
Falcon. Forever and always.
>>315596265
It's not my opinion, it's an indisputable fact.
>>315595927
What the fuck is wrong with her up-tilt? Seriously.
>>315595454
>>315595594
>>315596227
only right answers.
>>315596313
no, you misuderstand. i was saying whatever floats your boat because you clearly get off on trying to start fights on the internet. feel free to enjoy that hobby.
>>315596313
It has virtually every aspect of a traditional fighting game except its % system and platform setting
>>315596313
not really
Had by some chance Smash Bros or a game with similar mechanics been created before YAKF or the original Street Fighter or other such games things might have been a bit different.
Ever think that your closed mind restricts new possibilities? I fail to see how it isn't a fighting game just because it doesn't play like street fighter.
I'm not even much of a Melee player these days, but fighting is my favorite genre and I play just about any game in the genre I can. Smash(mostly just Melee and PM) fits in just fine.
>>315592980
Ryu
peach and i can kick everyones ass in the thread
>playing kiddy games
saged
>>315596629
shut the fuck up neo nintendoer
>>315592980
Nobody, because you don't really main characters in beat-em-ups.
Any other questions?
>>315597042
>beat em up
I have never seen someone be this wrong about about a genre name before.
>>315595454
>/tv/
>/mu/
>tabs everywhere
My condolences
>>315596864
how about you make me my manim shoryu-cant
>try netplay
>server mode lags like shit, freezes every 3 seconds
>p2p mode lags way less but kicks me every ~2 matches
Feels bad having a shit connection
>>315596548
>>315596598
It's a brawler, kids. It has no set moves, no combos, no precision imput. It's a platform brawler party game.
>>315596864
Neo-Nintendo is Gamecube and up.
>>315597042
bro thats streets of rage
>>315597272
play street fighter 2 if you want to play ryu
>>315592980
Mario but I also use Luigi
>>315597129
>up to four players simultaneous free-for-all multiplayer
>Basic Four button set-up (Attack, Special, Grab, and Shield. Hell, could even be a THREE BUTTON GAME if you shield-jab to grab.)
>Let me reiterate, there is a button for Blocking
>Platforming
>items
Right, because all of that is closer to fighting games than beat-em-ups. In whatever weird world you live in.
>>315597279
Brawler isn't a genre
>It has no set moves, no combos, no precision imput
You are wrong but I would like you to elaborate.
>>315597279
melee has the design of a golden era game after that i agree with you completely
Falco Samus
>>315597453
A beat-em-up is a sidescrolling pve game like Streets of Rage or Castle Crashers
>>315592980
>>315597594
Is that your only retort? That it's not PvE? Go play adventure mode or Subspace Emissary. Those are straight beat-em-ups. Just because the main draw of the game is competitive multiplayer and not co-operative multiplayer doesn't just make it not a beat-em-up anon.
>>315597482
What combos are there in Smash Bros? None, you're just using moves in succession, not a combination input.
Fighter wasn't a pre-determined genre until games were made that have a similar style.
>>315597279
people make their own unique combos legit fighting games have programming that only allows certain combos. i think melee is a platform fighting game with beat em up as a afterthought
neo nintendoers are the only people who call smash a party game
The only OG that matters.
>>315597736
brawl in a melee thread what the fuck is wrong with you that game sucks dick
I main none other than the best girl, of course.Been trying to get back into Marth and learn Ganon lately though. Both are giving me trouble. Any tips?
>>315597765
They aren't combos if the input doesn't allow for a specific action to follow the combonation. That's like saying 'I just input random numbers into my combination lock, it works just as well'.
>>315597736
>Is that your only retort?
Looks like you didn't even read my entire one sentence reply. If you had understood what being similar to actual beat-em-ups implies you would understand the difference.
>Go play adventure mode or Subspace Emissary. Those are straight beat-em-ups
Multiplayer is the primary gamemode of smash bros. Even if it wasn't, those game modes are not similar to beat-em-ups. For one thing, beat-em-ups as a genre feature free, isometric movement, not locked sidescrolling like in fighters.
>>315598013
Nothing? No? Okay, it's settled then, it's a beat-em-up. Thanks for seeing things clearly, anon.
Pikachu. It changed a lot since I first played the game (Ice climbers, Samus, Fox and Link were all characters I mained for a while), but in the end Pikachu was the one who ended up fitting me as a player.
Which is kind of funny because he's half the reason I ever played the game in the first place.
Tailspiking is my favorite thing to do. It's just so satisfying.
Where my Pikabros at?
>>315597753
>What combos are there in Smash Bros?
waveshine is an actual combo following the same criteria of combos in street fighter 2, which was the inception of combos in modern fighting games.
If you're looking for an actual, hard-coded combo, off the top of my head Marth's side B is an actual combo that fits all your criteria.
e92a4d57
>>315598703
location and approx skill level?
>>315598127
Different poster, actually. Don't you get embarrassed posting like this? Do you really think you are presenting a good argument with a position of "I guess I am right because I am not acknowledging your reply."? It'd be one thing if other posters were intentionally trying to skirt around your primary objections, but you are getting direct replies to your central point.
>>315598750
midwest. i'm probably bad.
>>315598960
i'm east coast and pretty bad myself, I'll join you
>>315598123
And fighting games, as a genre, feature health bars, and only two players.
See, I can make up rules to fit my narrative too anon.
I understand your point, but just because there isn't depth on the ground for isometric movement, (to make it EXACTLY like the games you mentioned, you fucking annoying stickler), doesn't make any of the other statements not true. And also, it has Platforms for upward and downward movement, as opposed depth-based movement. Basically replacing that aspect of the game with one that vertical instead of horizontal. So what about the items, simple inputs, blocking button, platforming and multiple players? Those are all features from Beat-em-ups, not fighting games.
>>315596031
Firefox is a gaping open whore vagina for malware, much like Firefox is the same thing when it comes to recovery gimping.
King Dedede is the only character I find fun, but I keep getting knocked out in semifinals and finals in local tourneys so I really do need to pick up someone better.
Consistently making top 4 with Dedede is still pretty good though I feel.
>>315599340
Oh right it's a Melee thread. Sheik main and Falcon secondary but I haven't played Melee competitively since 2005.
I main Link partly because he's one of the few characters I can somewhat control (and only after hours of practice); I can't shorthop with most characters for the life of me and I am very slow at pressing buttons. I'm working on it but I've been playing for ages and I can't even keep up with L cancels and I rarely have time to input a fastfall. And I don't wavedash n stuff.
What are some other characters that are easy to play?
>>315598091
it requires twitch movements to do the most advanced combos, your argument is invalid.
Marth, with my alts being Samus and Luigi, I can also play Fox and Captain Falcon
>>315597753
>What combos are there in Smash Bros?
>you're just using moves in succession
>>315599440
>I can't shorthop with most characters for the life of me
I feel you. I've been practicing and I'm having a lot of trouble doing it consistently.
The lightest of taps as quickly as possible still seems to give me a full hop most of the time.
The most consistent I can get is when I just sort of slide my thumb over the jump button so it just barely registers an input, but this often leads to not jumping at all and it's difficult to get an aerial in after doing it.
I'll keep practicing, I guess. My goal is to get 50 shorthops in a row without missing one.
>>315599529
If you do not jump and do the attacks at the perfect second it will not mean shit because another person will combo you and kill you.
ce79e597
East Coast.
I'm shit, I can barely shield drop. Gogo.
Ride or die
>>315599152
>Windows is a gaping open whore vagina for malware
Fixed. Anyone still using Windows in 2015 is an idiot.
>muh gaymz
Fuck your games. Stop using Windows and your games will follow.
>>315598028
Marthfag here, learn that ariels are your friend, and that you don't need to be a super fast wave dashing faggot, use up tilts and short hops
>>315599073
>See, I can make up rules to fit my narrative too anon.
That's moving the goalposts though. You're also assuming that I am arguing that super smash bros is a traditional fighter, which I am not, so posting specific definitions of what makes a fighting game a fighting game does not prove right your assertion that super smash bros is a beat-em-up. Super smash bros being dissimilar from beat-em-ups should be the primary focus here.
I think not having the movement plane of a beat-em-up is a huge reason why it doesn't fit the criteria. Movement and perspective are by and large what separates genres from other genres.
>Basically replacing that aspect of the game with one that vertical instead of horizontal.
That would make it a platformer. I don't think it would be wrong to point out how much smashbros has in common with platformers when trying to define what genre it fits into, but platforming is not an aspect of beat-em-ups. It's also worth noting that vertical movement is an important part of any fighter with aerial attacks, like MvC2.
>So what about the items, simple inputs, blocking button, platforming and multiple players? Those are all features from Beat-em-ups, not fighting games.
Soul Calibur featured Button Blocking, so I don't really believe that button blocking makes a game no longer a fighting game. Simple inputs is kind of a non-argument in terms of genre, as complexity of gameplay is not what makes a game fit a genre or not, it;'s style of gameplay. As for items, platforming, and 2+ players, I agree that those are unorthodox for a fighting game, but the larger criteria of genre are vastly different from beat-em-ups, and saying that having some elements makes smash a beat-em-up is like saying that Portal is not an FPS because it doesn't have guns and healthbars.
>>315599734
>>315597453
you realize when the main point of the game is fighting each other, it's a fighting game, right?
>he thinks adventure mode is the central part of the game
>>315599734
How do you play video games without windows?
>>315599632
What I do is I flick the edge of the Y button with my finger nail to do short hops. People say that doing this will fuck you over and shit, but I've never ran into any problems.
>people still taking the fighting game bait
>>315595927
That's my girl.
>>315596365
What do you mean?
>>315592980
>Tr4sh
Game & Watch
>Memee
Dr. Mario
>>315600093
This
Link and Captain Falcon.
I basically just wanted to see how far I could get with link and I'm pleasantly surprised so far. Sadly I think I do best against people who don't know the matchup. I tend to get figured out mid set.
>>315597453
Oh we're just goign to talk about obvious non-competitive portions of a game? Ok
Mortal Kombat you can play with "pickups" that give you powers and whatnot, stage hazards and etc.
>>315599661
>>315599661
Join faggots
>>315600208
Yeah, my buddy who mains Link has this problem. We go to locals and he does okay, but whenever we go to anything serious he may start strong, but link's moves are easily predictable and aren't very diverse. He is probably the best link I've seen in person, but still can get shit on by an average Fox.
>>315593513
i want u in my but
Peach.
Love those turnips.
>>315600084
I'm trying from the opposite side now, flicking the left side of the button with the inner side of my thumb and I'm getting it a bit more consistently. Still failing to get jumps sometimes but I think I could do it with a lot of practice.
Although an approaching/retreating nair seems impossible.
>>315599640
What are you talking about
>>315600336
Yeah he's ultimately just too slow I think to really be effective. His up B out of shield is just so fucking satisfying though.
>tfw shielding a fox usmash and following it up with up B
People get real surprised by how far that sends them.
>>315600847
Melee is always about instant punishment, if you fuck up on an attack the other player will capitalize on it and kill you.
Its- Its been a hard life.
Marth and Falcon
what tech should I grind/practice when I'm trying to practice these two?
>>315600925
Yeah that's what my buddy likes about Link. I main Luigi... You should see how far his up-b sends me.
>>315600969
Do you think that the v1.0 flame canceling is important in the slightest? Have you ever brought/requested a 1.0 disk at a tourny?
Where are my Marth/Falco mains?
Ganondorf
Anyone wanna netplay? West coast here, better than a scrub but nowhere near pro
be7ccb55
>>315601047
moonwalking obv
>>315601164
I'm East coast, tell me if no one joins you.
>>315601164
washington state here coming in
>>315601113
no and no.
>>315601298
I highly doubt anyone will join me based on past experience but it'll probably be unplayable unless you just want to exchange tech knowledge.
>>315601339
oh shit never mind.
>>315600004
Well, yes, it's the single-player mode that unlocks all the characters. It's a pretty central part of the game unless you and your friends, oh who am I kidding, unless you want to play bots for literally days.
>>315599931
>moving the goalposts though
Yes, I was putting them back. You're the one who was setting arbitrary rules, saying a game has to basically be Streets of Rage to be a beat-em-up.
>it's also worth noting that vertical movement is an important part of any fighter
Yes, which is why actual fighting games have no platforms and balance the characters so that everyone, when standing on a literal even playing field, is nearly evenly matched.
>Simple inputs is kind of a non-argument in terms of genre,
Here's where you're pretty wrong. For example, games like Castle Crashers have no real input strains outside of "press button AND direction and your attack is different". So, in a manner identical to Smash, Beat-em-ups don't require stuff like 236p, rather Tilt-p is enough of an input for all the variance in moves you'll have.
Going back to Castle Crashers for this example, also, literally two attack buttons in Smash. Like a beat-em-up. Not to mention blocking in a 2D game with a button is unheard of, unless it's a beat-em-up.
Also, for the record, you're severely misinformed. Portal is a fucking Puzzle game before it is even close to being an FPS. the Shooting isn't nearly as central as the Puzzling
>>315601421
jk it's failing to connect
>>315601465
Are you using Anther's Ladder settings? NTSC 1.02, Dolphin version 4.0-7840, netplay community settings on under Gecko Codes.
3928f224
east coast, i suck
>>315596365
grab --> dthrow --> up tilt --> side b spam
>>315601515
yeah i just double checked everything and it's still not working
>>315599073
>So what about the items, simple inputs, blocking button, platforming and multiple players?
>Items
What about them? They are not used.
>simple inputs
Elaborate?
>Blocking button
Other fighting games have this. Don't see your point.
>Platforming
Pretty much required for a movement based fighter that has aerial attacks. Again what exactly about this feature renders it not a fighting game?
>Multiple players
So the game has a 2v2 mode, that isn't even taken that seriously when compared to 1v1. Is Quake not a FPS game because the most popular mode is 1v1 where other games tend to favour 5v5?
Why PPMD lost so hard today?
>>315600941
What has that got to do with combos?
>>315601773
is that quake 3?
i wish there was a shooter with that speed.
proud pichu main
>>315601921
If you missplace a combo someone can see that opportunity hit you and start their own combo.
>>315602059
>pichu main
>not using goggles pichu
>>315601432
>Here's where you're pretty wrong
>literally two attack buttons in Smash
uhhh...
>>315598028
upthrow someone onto a platform and uptilt them. shit's cash.
>>315602017
Yes it's q3defrag with cpm physics.
>i wish there was a shooter with that speed
You're looking at it
>>315602282
so how would one get a hold of playing this majestic game.
>>315602112
I am quite aware. That's typically a trait of any competitive game. Thank you anon for your wisdom.
Peachy.
>getting the turnip snipes
>getting a stitch without even noticing
>downsmash in general
She's very fun.
32647c40
east coast, anyone?
>>315601773
>they are not used
See, if they never included an item availability setting in the game, would people even be considering it a fighting game? Would it even be played competitively? Would it have ever been at EVO? The realistic answer leans heavily to no.
>simple inputs
Beat-em-ups don't require stuff like 236p, rather Tilt-p is enough of an input for all the variance in moves you'll have.
>don't see your point
Tell me a well-received 2D fighting game with a block button.
>Pretty much required for a movement based fighter that has aerial attacks
Yeah, except those don't have literal platforms making the stages asymetrical.
>So the game has a 2v2 mode
And a free-for-all mode you're totally forgetting about that is in no way at all competitive and the actual main draw of the game, also the mode it drops you into initially.
>>315602219
How is that wrong? There are two actual attack actions. A and B. "Z" is a shortcut, for shielding and pressing A. C-stick is a shortcut for pressing A simultaneously with a direction. Please, enlighten me to the function of this third attack button you've come across.
>>315592980
Palutena
>>315602415
http://router.download.maverickservers.com/?file=/quake3/EZQ3Setup_2.0.exe
You need the Quake 3 pak0.pk3 which you can just get from google. If you wanna play defrag just make sure tick it.
I want to learn how to play Ice Climbers.
Where do I start?
>>315602798
If you can't pull off the infinite chaingrab, they become shit tier in your hands
>>315602798
Learn all their cool hand offs.
>>315602918
Well, I can do Lightning Loops in Marvel 3 and Leg Loops in USF4.
I think I can learn the execution. I doubt it's that hard.
Kinda sucks that I won't be able to use my trusty DS3 but eh.
>>315592980
Falcon, or Ganon/DK when sandbagging.
>>315602606
>See, if they never included an item availability setting in the game, would people even be considering it a fighting game?
Does it matter? I think if you're argument is based on hypotheticals then you've already proven how shit your argument is. Especially when almost every other competitive game comes with different rulesets, modes, modifiers, mods and settings. Items are not part of competitive Smash.
>Beat-em-ups don't require stuff like 236p, rather Tilt-p is enough of an input for all the variance in moves you'll have.
You wanna elaborate? If you have an argument about why simple inputs doesn't make a game a fighting game then please put it forward.
>Yeah, except those don't have literal platforms making the stages asymetrical.
I don't know any other movement based fighters that don't have platforms. There's also a reason it's only symmetrical stages used.
>And a free-for-all mode you're totally forgetting about that is in no way at all competitive and the actual main draw of the game, also the mode it drops you into initially.
Again irrelevant. I am pretty sure fps games stay fps games despite how many of them put you into shit modes by default that nobody in the competitive scene plays. You can bitch about shit that nobody actually plays in a competitive setting all you want but it really doesn't change anything does it? People are not going to drop Quake because of FFA are they?
>How is that wrong?
How can LP vs MP be any different from fair vs bair? It's not. Both instances require completely different button presses. If you're going to be a pedantic retard and try claim that having your two inputs mapped to a stick somehow removes melees ability to be a fighting game then I don't know what to say to you other than go study some other games nigga.
>>315598028
For ganon, don't fastfall -> L cancel your aerials like up air and bair. You can throw those out from a short hop and have them end before you hit the ground so you have no lag. It's way quicker that way.
>>315603160
Ice Climbers aren't just about execution though. They're kinda abstract. Contrary to popular belief wobbling isn't super free. At low or mid levels yes but at high levels people will have a good idea on how to separate the climbers or mash out below 30%. Desyncs are pretty good to learn. I'm pretty sure that Fly Amanita has some good guide to them on Smashboards.
Falco andPichu
>>315592980
When I grow up, I want to be high-tier!
>>315604501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2_AIdsqYQw
>>315603931
Here, I'll put the same thing I've been saying into simple, small sentences so even you can understand.
Playing the game, as it was designed and intended by its creators (I. E. Items, four-player-free-for-all, no exploits) it is not competitive.
If you have to mod Skyrim to make it closer to a Puzzle game, for instance, Skyrim still is not a puzzle game.
If you have to change the game's very focus to make it more like something else, it is not that other thing. It's just trying really hard to be that other thing.
>>315604604
>Playing the game, as it was designed
Stopped reading here. What a retard.
>>315604691
How can someone with such little patience play a fighting ga-
Oh wait. nevermind. lol.
>>315604604
>there's just one correct way to play a game
>>315604604
You're equating turning items off to modding senpai thats dumb
>>315604501
Gen 1 Mewtwo is still the strongest pokemon in the history of the franchise.
Be happy to have that.
>>315604604
hey shithead
in one of the nintendo powers they talked about l cancelling and wavedashing
>>315604958
Not saying that, just saying the game isn't a fighting game, and the design shows that its roots lean towards beat-em-ups more than it does actual fighting games.
>>315604973
>modding
>short for modifying
>turning Items off isn't modifying the game
Are you actually this dumb?
>>315604808
Are you mad?
>>315605128
>turning Items off isn't modifying the game
No, it's toggling options you fucking faggot.
>>315605128
>the game is what the designers created
>not what the fanbase made it
>not what the overwhelming majority of its modern players believe it to be
>being this fucking delusional
>>315605128
Fighting game or not, its just semantics. It doesn't matter. Try to care less m8 maybe then you won't get so booty blasted because of other people have fun playing smash.
>modding comes from modifying, so your argument from earlier still works
Quite a stretch
>>315605207
Oh, you really ARE that dumb. Well here's a new word for you to use.
>>315605203
Nah, I'm fine, I actually have the patience to read through everything and rebute points
>>315605362
So are people marketting Skyrim as a sex simulator? Because that's what the fanbase and majority of its modern players have made it.
>believing Smash was ever intended to be competitive
>being this delusional
>>315605524
nobody ever thought smash was intended to be competitive, you fucking troglodyte, it's why melee players hate sakurai so much
>shiggy diggy skyrim sex simulator
yeah alright give me some solid evidence of the percentage of skyrim's player base that would actually fucking admit to having used it as one
>>315605686
>nobody ever thought smash was intended to be competitive,
But someone must have, because they insisted that the genre of the game is fighting game, when clearly, that isn't what it was designed as.
>>315605524
Other people had the patience to reply to you earlierread: take your baitbut got tired of talking to someone who clearly just wants to argue over something that doesn't matter.
>So are people marketting Skyrim as a sex simulator? Because that's what the fanbase and majority of its modern players have made it.
Something added to the game afterwards by fans =/= a toggleable option that was in the game when it released
Anyway, I think you're mad dude
>>315605895
alright let's get something straight
street fighter isn't a fighting game either. it's a two-player platform game where players use moves in a 2D plane that cause no visible damage or scarring to their opponents. there's no consequence for losing except what the players make of it (bragging rights, e-sport competitions, etc.) and anyone who takes it seriously is autistic
>>315605895
No one insisted it was a traditional fighting game. Its not, its a platform fighter, focused more on movement than fighters like sf, mk, etc.
You got triggered hard by someone saying it was a "fighting game." Fighting game is a broad term. Its a kind of fighting game. Sub-genre if you will.
Arguing the semantics of it just pedantic
Guys the Project M elf file won't stay in my registry, I can only play it if I drag and drop it into dolphin.
Wat do
>>315606350
delete system32, it's the only way
>>315606509
Sure thing man I'll get right on it!
>>315605936
>Something added to the game afterwards by fans =/= a toggleable option that was in the game when it released
Yes, I understand that, but it's literally the easiest analogy to make when you're shifting the focus of the game THAT MUCH through the option of removing items.
Also, yes, me, the guy who has not been insulting people while getting called names, is the guy who is mad. Where does that make sense?
Anyway, to give this argument a final point, Smash is a beat-em-up because it draws more from beat-em-ups than fighting games. They have gone on record saying this game, The Outfoxies was a huge inspiration. Skip in, watch a little, and tell me, wholeheartedly, that this is a fighting game, and not some Versus Beat-em-up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lxapXSAijw
>>315592980
Fox, Falco.
I'm quitting afterTipped Offtomorrow.
who /upairupairupairfair/ here?
Falcon with Marth and kind of Fox as secondaries.
I like playing as most characters though.
The one and only Doctor.
Kirby or Ness
oh wait, I can't play them because they're fucking garbage in this shit game riddled with shitty clones
I'll be over here, playing the only good smash game.It's not Brawl or Tr4sh, by the way.
>>315607672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzYHFh5mO_E
how do I get into 64
>>315607730
>An experienced player good with a shitty character somehow makes that charater good
stop being retarded, you tard.
>>315607838
You can still play your guys like simna and do crazy combos
he is always on anthers ladder if oyu want to face him and learn
>>315607982
Or, not play a shitty lazily pasted together sequel when there's already a superior and more balanced predecessor.
>>315608086
>I'll be over here playing 64 where Kirby is almost broken because it's more balanced than any of the other ones!
Are you retarded? This has to be bait.
>>315608086
>choosing to play a game more dead than Melee
>>315608086
SD remix nigger.
>>315608210
>I can't even beat the scrubbiest of Kirbys: The Post
Nice job, meleescrub.
>>315608221
Rather play a good game than a shitfest brimming with autism.
>>315606691
Nobody is arguing that the game you posted is a fighting game.
The reason you seem so mad to me is because you are so insistent that people understand that under no means is smash a fighting game. Your opinion on what genre it falls into doesn't matter. Even if everyone agreed that it was a party game, that wouldn't fundementally change the games mechanics. It would still be played competitively.
Basically you are fucking infuriated that someone mentioned melee and 3S in the same sentence as fighting games, causing you to go on to disrupt a thread where people just wanted to discuss the game over your autistic need to argue semantics that don't matter relative to discussion about the gameplay in anyway.
You, my friend, are mad as fuck.
>>315608294
>It's good with mods!
Oh wow, Meleefags really will go the farthest.
At least in 64, most choices are actually viable and aren't slapped together clones who have the exact same animations but "with different properties".
>>315608519
I love 64 too, but if you want to play melee you can as well my non neo nintendo nigger.
>>315602776
So what do i need to do with the pak0.pk3???
>>315595795
What this guy said
I really wanna get into melee but tech stuff is de motivating me. I hate to ask but can anyone provide advice?
Falconman with Young Link and Luigi as secondaries
>tfw always get props whenever I play Young Link
What's your go to low-tier character /v/?
I usually go straight to Mario and DK
>>315608886
ok
choose a character
go to training mode
do the combos the quickest way possible and come from every angle and every way you can. Learn how to make the moves faster and the combos faster
Now do the same thing in 2x the speed
practice and then after that you should be super speedy at 1/1
Go get 20xx and spam abilities practice running up to the guy shielding
then power shielding then wavedashing into shielding
Then make the dude down smash continuously and learn to wavedash away from it and if you do attacks to disrupt them and then learn to grab that person and do the combo shit and 0-100 them.
Then you should practice di which you press the control stick in different ways to control your velocity of the char hitting you.
Find what you think is the best for your char and then after that when you get hit hit l right after you get hit and it will decrease the velocity by 5 10%
Then after this go to the hardest mode and do the combos on all enemies in the game.
rinse repeat and ur golden.
>>315597279
bait
Yoshi
Zero Suit Samus
>>315609268
>>315608886
>>315609268
>8
>>315608886
Also get an infinite shield code for player 2 and then practice attacking the shield as fast as possible if you do it correctly you should be able to 0-100 people if you do it correctly
Also use all abilties you got on the shield
use your quickest attacks to the shield then grab after
Also do combos like fast attack to grab or grab to fast attack.
Combine everything.
>>315608886
I'm happy to say that the techinical aspect isn't as hard as many people make it out to be. On the highest level? Yeah obviously it is, and even then it depends on the character played as far as how intensive the techskill will be. But if you just want to be able to play against your friends or netcode with /v/ on a level above >total fuckign casul, all you need to do is practice l-canceling. Flirt with trying to wavedash after you understand how to l-cancel. Besides that it helps to watch good players, and it helps even more to play good players. Doing these to things will really help you to understand combo theory. If you do that I promise that in time you'll feel a bit more confident and if you really want to get seriou you can get in the lab and really practice your techskill.
