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Where is the discount CAVE? You said there would be a discount.
inb4 it sells like shit and cave dies.
>20 eurodollars
Yeah, how about no. I hope the discount kicks in soon.
Deluxe Edition is just the game+ost+v1.5 for cheaper right?
>>315556121
patience anon they just forgot to flip the switch
>>315556524
Who knows, there is no dexcription yet.
But that's probably it.
downloadan
idk cave needs the support
>>315556830
Only I can't see the discount, or you just don't care?
>>315557051
Probably he don't care
>>315557051
normal is $20 and deluxe was $25 but a guess a discount is soonish?
>>315557051
>Steam has conditioned its userbase to devalue the fuck out of everything and only pay $3 for every single game ever made
It was cool for awhile but I've realized "steam sale culture" is a real thing and also pretty cancerous.
>>315556524
you're supposed to get everything for ~$18 with the discount, so maybe?
>>315557051
He probably bought it full price to support Cave.
>>315556830
Not going to risk it myself, but they'll probably credit you the difference once it's fixed any way.
what upgraded about 1.5?
>>315557284
If you have the disposable income, it's fine, but some of us have to pay the bills somehow. I bet you're american.
>>315557454
Damn right I am, I have plenty of disposable income.
>>315557284
Are you retarded? Degica have said there will be a discount for the first week of sale, what kind of idiot pays more for no reason? Especially when this is an amount they deemed appropriate and not some sale "forced" upon them as you seem to think.
>>315557439
Different patterns, some color changes on the stages, some changes to the scoring system... minor details as far as I can tell.
It's not really an upgrade, it's a different version. The original 1.5 pcb was considered very rare because Cave sold it for 8 hours only, so it's a nice curiousity that it's available as DLC.
Somebody please tell me.
Can I play in portrait mode?
>>315557743
Yes, the game supports portrait mode
>>315557743
What is portrait mode.
>>315557743
of course you can
>>315557284
I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized that.
>>315557895
>>315557980
This picture makes me want to vomit.
>>315557619
i'm the guy that posted that image and right now i have no expenses so im pretty yolo with money.
but in this case cave actually had their games being emulated in mame WHILE their games were still in arcades, so i kinda feel bad enough to buy full price. plus it was only $25 with the dlc and ost. its not like im buying a $60 console game.
>>315557743
Yes, there's a 4:3 option and TATE support.
What's in the deluxe edition?
>>315558061
Why? Portrait/Vertical mode is the way to play top down shmups
Waiting for torrent.
what's the 1.5 DLC? Just you start fully loaded but the game is harder / faster?
>>315558246
Then why doesn't it fit the full screen, what is even the point? It looks vomit inducing. What the fuck is up with the top 1/4th?
Blackbird@Degica sez:
>Hi everyone. Looks like the launch discount didn't trigger properly. We're aware of the issue and will have it sorted out shortly. Please hang on for now.
Just fucking fix it already, I want to sleep.
just posted on the forum
>>315558493
Dude no shit it won't completely fit on a monitor/tv with that absurd aspect ratio, but on a standard 16:9 monitor with tate/portait support it will completely fill the screen
>>315558493
Because he didn't bother scaling it to fullscreen just to test whatever he was testing?
You get full control over the width, height, X position and Y position of the game's viewport.
Futari when?
>>315558767
>>315558401
Fuck off shitposters.
>>315558767
Try reading next time, retard.
>>315558694
>but on a standard 16:9 monitor with tate/portait support it will completely fill the screen
It won't actually, the game's 3:4, you're going to end up with letterboxing in tate.
>>315558767
Why even try to start a console war, you dumb shitposter?
>>315558751
CAVE said they're already working on the next PC port. So it's probably gonna be "Bug Princess 2".
>>315558751
Buy this and we shall see about that. :^)
>>315558401
This to be honest family
>>315558493
Because the original arcade game was on 4:3 monitor.
Are you retarded?
>>315559004
Oh yeah I forgot about that, my mistake.
Warmly waiting for a performance report.
>>315559114
I don't care about the original arcade game, this is a port of the PC version where most people will have 16:9 monitors.
guy that bought it early
>$19.99
Shit that's a little pricey
I hope it's a good port
I just want to pay 15 dollars to shoot bugs. This is all I've wanted to play since I got home from work, why would they not just release it at 1pm like every other Steam game?
>>315556830
Did you get a deluxe edition? Does it include the DLC or did you have to buy them separately?
>>315559413
At least it's not 19.99 euros.
>>315559531
It is ;__;
I need that discount.
>>315559656
Me too, senpai.
Although i-it's not like I wanted to sleep anyway, I sure enjoy pressing F5 every few seconds just so I could shoot bugs for 15 euros.
Please take your time, dear devs.
>>315559387
How big was the download?
>>315559568
Secured my purchase
Thanks dood
>>315555967
Can it take generic controllers or am I going to break out x360ce again?
well scored 19.5M on futari maniac [spolier]iphone[/spoiler] while waiting. am i gud?
>>315560313
>not using the keyboard
>>315560373
>not using an arcade stick
>>315560373
Eh I prefer a d-pad. I use a PS2 controller.
>>315557284
I agree while actually being a part of that culture, which is a shame but I have a huge backlog already and I don't feel in a hurry to play most new releases.
And while I want to support Cave, this kind of game usually kicks my ass so fucking hard that I'm not able to play much anyway.
>>315559413
it's going to have 25% off discount. youn can get everything for $18.
>>315560313
supports xinput and directinput
>>315557284
Do you actually think devs do sales out of good will or something?
>>315558032
Uh, that looks neat. A shame my monitor can't do that shit.
>>315560630
Oh good, I hope that kicks in soon
I'll just go sleep and buy it once I wake up, have fun guys
>>315560806
Sweet dreams anon
it runs well enough and it has all the side/wallpaper options. like it has the appropriate lag and no stuttering. also a separate menu for keyboard controls.
my only gripe is that fullscreen on my 1920 by 1080 monitor doesn't take up the full screen.
>>315559372
So you are retarded, that's what I thought
This is exactly as stupid as complaining that you can't emulate NES in 16:9 without stretching or letterboxing
>Discount not applied.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
What's in the deluxe ?
The OST + DLC or just the OST ?
>>315560867
This looks shit.
>>315556830
Cave is defunct. A console gen of 3shitty exclusivity in japan will do that to you. Now they're focusing on hardware for arcades. Several developers quit. Also this port is degica, not cave. I know you want your purchases to mean something, but at least read into the matter beforehand. Otherwise you come off as an ignorant fanboy that only cares about ports to your preferred platform.
>>315561016
both
>>315561087
>Cave is defunct.
No it isn't, and please stop spreading misinformation because there will be people who believe your bullshit.
>>315561016
DLC + OST, but you get the OST for free if you buy the game on launch week.
>>315561087
>Also this port is degica, not cave
Cave still get a cut.
>>315561087
Why are you spreading lies?
>>315560867
Looks weird, I would have preferred original resolution with crt filters
>>315560867
How does input response feel? No delay there?
>>315561170
>>315561217
Deluxe it is then.
Thanks
Humble has it for $15. You'll just be missing the 1.5 DLC.
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/mushihimesama_storefront
>>315561290
You can scale and reposition the game window, and I'm pretty sure you can change it to just a black background
Looks like I'll have to go to sleep after all.
It's not like I had time to play now anyway, and I can still buy it tomorrow, but it feels bad. I was really looking forward to this.
>>315561087
>Now they're focusing on hardware for arcades
They've said in recent interviews that they're ceasing arcade development but not shmup development
>Also this port is degica, not cave
Cave handled the port, Degica just added acheivments and localisation apparently
>Cave is defunct
They've said if digital distribution is successful for them they will be developing new games and porting more of their old ones.
Stop talking out your ass.
game looks really good when you disable pixel smoothing
but yeah I wish i could figure out the fullscreen boxed thing. is that a video card issue?
Does the OST include all 3 versions? Just 1 of them? Still undecided but now that it got trading cards I might get pushed to buy it early.
>>315561729
>fullscreen boxed
What do you mean?
>>315561836
>I might get pushed to buy it early.
uh anon
>>315561729
Now this one looks nicer.
Still strange that they didn't bother to up the resolution of the background, so the difference between the HD sprites and the background is jarring.
>>315561729
Shit man that looks so much better than the arcade version.
>>315561212
>>315561281
>>315561497
Why are you talking about a company you never followed? Watanabe and Masahito, COO and CEO, resigned in 2012. They cancelled multiple games in development. Asada quit shortly thereafter because, and I quote, "Cave had announced that they were going to take a break from consoles and stuff that goes directly to the consumer, and that’s really what I enjoy about what I do." Cave has been making nothing but kuso mobage for the past three years. You're not going to get anything out of this port. They left for a reason, they're not going to come back just because you threw money at them. I always threw money at them, some good that did. Don't give people unrealistic expectations about spending $20 on a 10 year old game.
>>315561238
That's not how most licensing agreements work. You pay for the license and the licensee keeps most of what they earn, otherwise there would be little incentive to license.
>>315561729
You've obviously got centered timings enabled in your GPU up-scaling settings. Change it to "Maintain aspect ratio" or "Stretch to fullscreen".
>>315561378
Wonder if Humble'll ever be smart enough to put regional discounts in place. Everything's cheaper on steam in my country.
>>315560806
Good night Windia.
>>315562012
Fuck off man.
Even on fagbook Cave said if Mushi would be successful they might consider a kikestarter.
>>315560336
Absolutely no.
you can buy it discounted in the Humble store
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/p/mushihimesama_storefront
>>315562012
Why are you talking about a company you evidently stopped following in 2012?
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/q-a-cave-on-the-shmup-business-and-mushihimesama-on-steam/0158449
>>315562012
Who fucking cares, it's a good port of a good game at a decent price.
Do you think it will be profitable for them?
That's a niche game still.
game crashes on the title screen when pressing a button
Anyone know how to get past this?
>>315562815
HAHAHA TRICKED FAGGOT!
Discount is up, but only on the base version
>>315562815
Same for me senpai.
FUCK I STAYED UP FOR THIS NOW MY SCHOOL LIFE IS FUCKED LOL! XD
>>315562487
I bought it there and got the OST as well. Don't know if it's the same on Steam
>>315563085
The OST is free on Steam so that wouldn't matter as you could just get it through the Steam store for free afterward.
Looks like all the discounts are up
>supporting the waifu pilot bullet hell cancer which completely killed the genre
>>315563167
Only free for the launch week.
>>315563236
Touhou did that for free
hey this is cool
>>315563248
Yeh but what I mean is if you get it on Humble now, even if you didn't get the OST along with it it wouldn't matter.
>>315562325
They said they would consider crowdfunding, but only at absurd levels of funding. 1/3-1/2 a million for a steam port, 1 million for a ps4 port, and 3 million for a new game. That's never gonna happen and you know it.
>>315562538
You're not even trying anymore. You say I stopped following in 2012, yet I blatantly mentioned Asada quitting, which happened in 2013. Congratulations, you can use google. One port is not a new strategy. It's not like Cave is rolling in money from their ios delusions. Ogura even says it's too difficult to make money from a new shmup to justify development. He further explains that this is an experiment, not some mass migration. Do you even read this shit before you post it? They're not making new games and throwing money for ports of ports is just delaying the inevitable. I fell for this shit last gen and supported them loyally on 360 only to get fucked in return. Don't fall for Cave's lies just because you have some sort of delusion about reviving a developer. Cave is one of the most retarded developers from a planning perspective. They don't understand their audience in the slightest and have dug such a massive hole that they can't get back out. Do you know why people bought the 3shitty in japan? Take a guess. Cave purposely tried to alienate themselves and now most people don't even know who they are. Who would even develop a new game? Their most experienced production staff quit.
>>315563236
>completely saved the genre
Fixed
>>315563236
What does it matter? The core gameplay's pretty much the same shit.
>>315563362
Good god you're an actual retard. If you followed them on twitter you'd notice a lot of people from Japan are hyped for their Steam release.
>>315563329
>touhou
>free
>>315563362
>Get a game I want, Ogura might not be full of shit
I fail to see the issue here
>>315563583
Source on twitter analysis? Wouldn't be surprised if the most idiotic fans haven't given up yet. They got a couple hundred rts on announcement and that's about it.
>>315563832
>get a game I want
Why didn't you get it before if you wanted it?
>>315563386
Waifus always save games.
>>315563329
Touhou is not free, you pirate it.
Where the Torrent at
>>315563445
Yes sure, and Otomedius is the new Gradius VI. what's there to complain? All completely the same...
>>315563386
Yea look at all those awesome new games coming out! Touhou 34 is amazing! Thanks a lot Cave!
I can see how much better than Touhou this game is already.
>>315565260
the refund button is right there
>>315564956
Damn, that game looks like shit. And seems to play like a crappy flash game, too. Can't blame the artstyle for that, though.
Fuck the shitposters, this game is beautiful and feels great to be able to play it on my PC.
Worth every penny.
>>315565565
I'm not just blaming the art style (althouhg this is very important too), but also the gameplay. Bullet hell is merely about dodging thousands of bullets. Good shooters are about aiming precision, strategy, dodging enemies/bullets/environmental hazards, route memorization,
Cave games are merely about squeezing yourself through le epic bullet patterns of doom
>>315566091
I only played Gradius Gaiden, but I agree that it's a completely different experience. Enjoyed it a lot.
What you're saying is that that kind of experience is completely gone in new games, then? That would be a shame indeed.
>>315566052
This.
Ive been too busy playing to be in this thread much.
Even if further ports don't pan out the future is bright for CAVE on PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBQ47gfXfQw
Shamefur release DLC
Other than that it looks great.
I can't decide if I want v1.5 or not
>>315566815
Unless you played Cave shooters before it isn't really needed. By the time you master the game it will be on sale during Black Friday or Winter.
>>315564916
It's already out, just google it. Some chinese site has it. Only one initial seeder for now.
>tfw no new games like r-type delta, gradius 5, or border down anymore
b-but at least we have our w-waifu bullet hells
I CHALLENGE EVERY SCRUB IN THIS THREAD TO AT LEAST 1CC ORIGINAL MODE.
1.0, OR 1.5, DOESN'T MATTER.
I EXPECT RESULTS BY TOMORROW. SEE YOU THEN
>>315566995
Can't even call that a new game. already have it on PS2 and X360. The only reason I'm pirating this is so I can play it at work or on the go without having to move my X360.
Anyone seriously into Cave already own this.
anyone get this running properly in 1920x1080 fullscreen?
there's an ini you can mess with but it doesn't want to for some reason.
>>315566995
Isn't there a new darius on pc next year though?
>can't bind shift to anything
are you fucking serious
Can anyone explain to me what those rapid shot and rapid full auto settings are and how they differ from the regular shot that's already auto?
Is there any way I can set it up so there's no delay on entering focus fire? It seems strange that there's a delay on that given that even the original arcade version had a separate autofire button
>>315567354
Yup. Looks like Degica is bringing it.
http://gematsu.com/2015/10/darius-burst-chronicle-saviours-rated-brazil
>>315567434
just pretend shift is Z, problem fixed
>>315566908
Alright thanks anon, I'll do that.
>>315567262
Where is this INI?
I can't even get the game to go past the the first prompt, maybe fucking with it will help.
>>315567631
I can work around it, it's more just that a game not supporting binds for all main keyboard keys is kind of a problem
>>315567580
The rapid shot and rapid full auto are for maximizing score. IIRC you can cheese bonus score out of bosses by going in their face and mashing the shit out of the normal shot button or something. People started modifying their cabinets' auto fire buttons and CAVE just decided to add that as an option for the port(s).
tldr: they're for autistic scoring purposes. just use the normal auto-fire
Why did so many shmups start appearing on steam recently?
>>315567865
The japanese discovered that it sells?
>>315567709
Steam\steamapps\common\Mushihimesama\Mushihimesama.ini
>>315567434
I fucking hate this. It's especially bad when the game has you stretching your hand across z,x,c and v.
Shift is just so natural and I feel not having it bindable is really unintuitive.
>>315568218
>stretching your hand across z,x,c and v.
those keys are literally right next to each other. you don't need to stretch
>>315568218
You can leave a finger above each key, but just get a controller nigga.
>>315567857
You are completely retarded if you believe they're just for scoring.
C+A does more damage as well and would help someone trying to survive by making boss fight shorter.
https://youtu.be/V01CmSd59Fc?t=5m31s
The more you know.
>>315568767
Maybe it's just me then but I find it a rather uncomfortable position. Stretch was a bad choice of words as the hand does easily cover them but it just feels strange. With that configuration it's leaving the z key which is often the most important up to the ring finger and I'd much rather that job go to the middle one.
It might be because I started with 2hu but using shift just seems so much better to me.
>>315569280
So uh
Which autofire setting shoiuld I bind to my main shot, and what delay settings should I have it on
And I can't make focus instant, right
>>315560469
shaking my damn head this to be honest family
>>315567067
already done but replays are fucked rip
>>315569495
Check the video at 2:00, it gives all the info you need.
Also start calling button properly.
A = Shot
C = Full Auto
A+ = Rapid Shot
C+ = Rapid Full Auto
B = Bomb
Lot of guides already exist since this was released in a while, going to be easier for you to find one, instead of me copy/pasting every answer to question you may have.
Man, this game looks a lot better with smoothing off, why is it even on by default. Anyway, what would be the best way to play this game? I already finished it the scrub way and want to git gud, I'm thinking that trying to do a 1cc from the start can easily tire me so I've decided to limit myself to 3 continues at first with an additional rule of not dying once during the first stage because it's pathetic. How do you play these types of shmups, anons?
>>315570610
>Check the video at 2:00, it gives all the info you need.
it's just footage of a guy playing
>still no torrent
>>315570742
Practice mode. Save states on MAME. Throw on something on my other screen, or a podcast or something and just grind shit out until I get angry and ragequit. That's how it usually goes.
>>315570742
when in doubt, bomb. never waste a single bomb.
>>315570742
Start at the lowest difficulty I can 1cc or get really close (continue on last boss or level) and play until I am good.
This game is great by the way, I am realizing I love Crimzon Clover so much is because it must draw heavily on CAVE shooters. The bullet patterns and general movement feel very similar. Also any game where you select your weapon and don't have to avoid pickups that switch it mid game are the best.
Am I missing something when the game goes fullscreen?
I'm trying to play tate but the game itself doesn't reach the sides of the screens, it just leaves massive black boarders. I'm not talking about the playing field but the actual background wallpaper doesn't reach as if the aspect ratio is fucked up but no matter what I do I can't get it fixed.
>>315570742
I get as far as I can with 1 credit. If something in particular is giving me difficulty I go to practice mode and spend time there until I can get past it consistently. Practicing individual stages is useful but it doesn't force me to play as well as if I play the entire game in one go. Trying to maximize your score is great for making those early stages you mastered feel engaging.
>>315571753
go into nvidia control panel/ati catalyst control center and fix it
>>315560723
Buy a mount. Your monitor should have a VESA mount if it's worth anything.
Is there any reason in playing 1.5 over 1?
>>315573291
I meant 1 over 1.5, whoops
the bullets are really fast in this game sometimes. i'm not used to this! its tough!
>>315573291
1.5 is a different mode, not a straight upgrade
Seeing as the only shmup I've ever been able to 1CC is Perfect Cherry Blossom on normal, shit this game is hard.
I like it
>tfw Arrange is SO MUCH better than the base game
Holy shit /v/ even though I paid full price (no discount, asked for a refund though), it was worth it. Damn so many clutch moments in level 4. Level 3 is a nice shoutout to huge base levels from R-Type and shit.
>>315574445
So assuming I'm new to the game and genre, I should just play 1 and move onto 1.5?
>>315575295
From what I understand 1.5 is kind of a remix of the game with slightly different enemy positions and patterns. I think it's also more difficult so it may be advisable to play 1 first.
>>315575295
1.5 is like a ROM hack. You play it when you feel like something different.
>>315575767
>>315576019
Thanks friends, will play 2 first.
>>315575290
Boss fights in Arrange start to get a little crazy for someone who can clear Original without much trouble. I was not ready ready for those stage 4 patterns.
Am I the only one who has more trouble with original than maniac
Fast bullets are the bane of me
I kinda wanna splurge and buy mushi and 1.5
Does 1.5 add anything other than black label?
pls give tips on gitting gud
ugg i can't wait to run through this.
if this is anything like mushy futari, novice/normal/arranged/1.5 all have different mechanics and scoring methods, not just enemy spawn changes and patterns.
cave games are great for replaying
>>315578610
shoot at things without getting hit. also read the thread
>>315566091
>Good shooters are about aiming precision, strategy, dodging enemies/bullets/environmental hazards, route memorization.
What makes you think Bullet Hell doesn't require these? The different is it's rare to see enviromental hazards.
And don't give me "it only requires memorization" as if aimed bullets and random patterns don't exist in Bullet Hells.
Is there a good reason to pick anything other than S-Power? Shit's incredible.
I'm playing. If anyone wants to add a good taste bro, feel free
http://steamcommunity.com/id/rokettopanchi/
>game doesn't let me write "ASS" or "FUK" on the score screen
CUK is allowed. haven't tried COK or FAG
>>315581424
>CUK is allowed.
why the fuck would it not be
>>315581424
>>315580807
doing god's work
I woke up early just to buy it, now I can't sleep because I want to play.
I have an arcade stick meant for fighting games, is that the same stick used for shmups?
Also I suck at shmups.
>>315582650
are you really this retarded?the answer is yes
>>315582650
yes, but try out keyboard or dpad, a lot of people seem to find digital input more comfortable in shmups
>>315582650
Most people prefer seimitsu sticks for shmups over the sanwa ones that come in most fightsticks, but yes, it's the same kind of thing
Fighters and shmups are run on the same candy cabs with the same inputs
>>315583121
arcade sticks are digital input you baka
>>315583748
Oh yeah, right, I guess I used the wrong expression, I meant buttons and shit as opposed to a stick
Changed from 16:9 to 4:3 by accident, game crashed and wont re boot.
Anybody else glitch here?
>>315582947
Well cause the video posted earlier seems to have a much shorter stick than the one I have, so I'm asking.
>>315584486
I haven't experienced a crash, but you can try to change your configuration back to 16:9 manually.
Right click the game in Library > Properties > Local files > Browse local files...
Open Mushihimesama.ini. Change AspectRatio to 1 (16:9) or 0 (4:3).
HOW THE FUCK TO I SET TATE MODE
FUCK IM FRUSTRATED.
>>315586932
nigga
Game is fun. Is maniac the default difficulty? I would have assumed original but its description makes it sound like easy mode.
Also there should be a mini tutorial at the start like in Crimzon Clover or something because I have no idea what I'm doing with these power ups.
>>315588615
Original is default.
Maniac for "scoring", as it adds a chain system.
Ultra for ass rape.
Going across the board: Novice is for babbies on all modes. Original is the standard setting as above. Arrange for tweaked shit like max firepower, autobombs and no continues. 1.5 for a completely new scoring system.
