>Brotherhood of Steel are the bad guys
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>>315552451
Great, can't wait to smack the shit out of them.
Well, they were the good guys in the previous game... Bethesdas got to make it look different somehow.
Are power armors something that you can wear only for a limited amount of time or is it just like PA from the previous games?
>>315552451
They've always been bad guys. Tech worshippers who would rather hog it all to themselves than use it to better the wasteland.
>>315552451
The Brotherhood of Steel were always fucking assholes, it was Fallout 3 which made them goody two shoes for no reason. Having them as villains will actually be kind of cool.
>>315552560
edgy
>>315552772
>They've always been bad guys.
Did you play fallout 2? Did you play fallout 3?
i can't believe people are defending bethesda's fucking with the lore this much
>>315552451
I hope that's not the T-60 power armor. This is retarded
>>315552451
If by bad guys you mean want the Institute's tech hoard then sure. They'll probably work with the Railroad to bring down the current Institute if they are under Lyons. If not, they'll probably just be a peripheral ally/enemy.
>>315552718
The power armor is more like a vehicle it requires fusion cores but you can use it as long as you have cores
>>315552718
You can wear them forever, but if you run out of fusion core/power you move at a slower rate and cannot power attack.
>>315552838
3 was already a lore rape by having the BoS be white knights in shining armor.
>tfw bostonfag
>tfw finally a game in our shitty city
>People criticize Fallout 3 for making BOS the good guys
>People criticize Fallout 4 for making BOS the bad guys
>>315552451
Can I at least join them? If I have to fight them then this game is already shit.
>>315552451
Surely I can keep to my edgelord ways and side with them, right?
>>315552451
I've always been neutral with the brotherhood. Fighting them is fun as fuck, I'm expecting some good battles against them with the new Power Armour mechanics.
Hopefully I get to pull some one out of their armour and beat them to death.
>>315552451
Uh, isn't there an achievement to join them? They can't be the designated 'bad guys' if you can join them.
>>315552772
>They've always been bad guys.
They weren't in Fallout 3 or New Vegas
>>315552451
The Brotherhood Chapter in the Capital Wasteland went off mission to help the locals, the usual brotherhood are tech grabbing assholes who don't give a shit about anyone or anything besides tech.
>>315552924
>>315552918
That sounds stupid.
Is there at least a variety of PAs?
Or is it just the stuff in OP's image?
I've been completely neglecting to pay any attention to Fallout 4 ever since it was first mentioned.
>New Vegas was developed in under 2 years
>New factions
>New enemy types
>Old factions have evolved from their classic roots, basically new groups entirely
>Fallout 3 and 4
>Hurr remember mutants and brotherhood?
>Don't you love brand recognition?
>>315552964
>tfw DCfag
>tfw air and space museum had jack shit to do with the real one
pretty mad desukara~ sensei~
>Implying
'bad' is a relative term
>>315552451
makes sense if destroy them in fo3 but in reality they are always bad guys taking technology from others
They didn't come off as particularly good or bad to me. Either way, I'm going to join them. They look like the most badass faction.
>>315552981
You mean /v/.
There's no pleasing this board.
>>315552838
Did you even play Fallout 1 or New Vegas or even Tactics, which by the way is considered semi-canon?
In Fallout 1 they send you on a suicide mission intending for you to die and end up completely surprised you survive, in Tactics they form a fascist dictatorship over the tribes they conquer in exchange for protection from Robots and in New Vegas they slip a fucking slave collar on you and force you to do work for them before they accept you.
They're barely there in 2, just small outposts here and there and they're lore breaking white knights in 3.
>>315552997
Achievement list
![[horrific screaming intensifies].png](https://i.imgur.com/CBGIai0.jpg "[horrific screaming intensifies].png")
>>315553039
>pull one out of their armor and beat them to death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLMjHrb_w4
How were they the bad guys in Fallout 1 you fucking idiots?
>>315553068
>implying they don't put an exploding collar on your neck the moment they see you
>>315553050
>They can't be the designated 'bad guys' if you can join them.
What? You could join NCR in New vegas.
Yeah no, the institute is, did you even listen to the trailer???
>>315552997
>>315553080
>full retard
theyre dickheads
im gonna go out on a limb and assume you enjoyed having the BoS forced on to you in fallout 3
>>315553080
No clue. There is a perk specifically for armor mods, and the E3 video showed a montage of various parts.
You can also give them a paint job
Its not just head, body, arm and leg. Its head, body, left and right arms, left and right legs. 6 parts you can equip individually.
>>315552451
IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING.
Modern fallout fans confirmed for idiots
>>315553084
What a dumb argument you just fabricated.
>>315553068
None of the factions in NV were good or bad, that's one of the things I love the most about it, it's morally ambiguous and there's no black and white good and evil bullshit like in FO3
>>315553139
>>315553204
>le slave collar = bad!
>implying it wasn't standard procedure
>implying they didn't free you later
>implying they didn't need you to help retrieve the tags of lost comrades
>>315552981
>People who played the earlier Fallouts and knew who the BoS were criticized them in F3
>People who's first Fallout game was F3 and don't know any better criticize F4 because they've only ever known them as the good guys
BOS are not the bad guys.
More like Natural guys.
I will not touch FO4
they killed it for me, I never want to touch a Bethesdass game again
nuke them, and fuck Todd, fucking slimey Jewish acolyte
>>315552814
>no raisin
the east coast brotherhood split into two factions, breh. only a few of them wanted to stay and help the people in DC
>you can 'join' then
>implying it wont be a splinter group of 3 of them in a shack who plot to kill the rest of thebrotherhood. again.
>>315553068
>New Vegas
>not the bad guys
Are you kidding me? Maybe not the main antagonist but they were still proper assholes. They were huge idiots, constantly bickering and full of hubris, and they tried to kill you on multiple occasions. All for stupid reasons I might add. There may have been a few good people in the BoS, but as an organization it was ineffective and selfish.
>>315553341
What a dumb rebuttal you just fabricated.prove him wrong, faggot.
>>315553341
Please tell me how I'm wrong, Todd.
>>315552838
Did you play fallout 1?
They tried to kill you for shits and giggles when you first try to join them.
"Yeah, go to the Glow. If you come back you're in."
Plus they're fascists . I mean they're not the worst out there but they're definitely not good guys.
>>315553139
>lore breaking
Fallout Tactics: BoS is semi canon too, dumbass.
>>315552451
>BoS
>Not colossal cunts
Yeah, I'm sure the whole "we're the only ones responsible enough to deal with technology" deal is completely benign and can't go horribly wrong.
>>315553192
God damn that shit is still as nerve wrecking as it was 12 years ago.
>>315553192
You tryna trigger me, nigga?
>>315552814
Technically it was a break off faction of the BoS in F3. They did some really "un-BoS" tactics like interacting and recruiting locals to achieve their goals. They're supposed to basically ignore the natives, gather pre-war tech and hoard it for themselves.
They're like chaotic neutrals.
>Fallout 3
>Brotherhood of Steel splits
>Ones that are doing their job and hoarding tech are called outcasts
>Ones that being white knights and wasting tech are called the normal ones
I don't get it.
>>315553506
>>315553556
There's nothing to prove wrong, you're just implying that it can't work.
>>315552838
To be fair with 3, Beth kind of admitted they fucked up by including the Outcasts who were back to neutral and who actively disliked the regular BoS in the east being good guys.
>>315552838
>fallout 2?
where they are pricks who assist you mostly via cumstance?
> Did you play fallout 3?
You mean the game where the BoS chapter was disowned on the grounds they helped people?
>My first game was Fallout 3
BoS are dicks, they have always been dicks.
>>315553646
IT JUST WORKS
>>315553562
>they're definitely not good guys.
They're neutral.
>>315553654
Please pre-order your Vault boy dildo pack so uncle Todd can lull you to sleep.
It's not like that factions can't have different moral alignments or purposes based on the city they reside in considering communication seems to be difficult over long distances.
>>315553203
They really weren't that bad in FO 1 or 2. In New Vegas they were huge assholes, much more than the first two games. I think it was obsidian's way of saying fuck you to Bethesda for turning them into white knights in 3. Hopefully they're back to being assholes, but not being outright hateable or evil.
the power armor looks fucking amazing ttytt
>>315552451
At least i hope its something more morally grey, instead of just "A side bad, B side good" like Fallout 3.
>>315553802
Can someone please fucking explain this "brotherhood are le bad guys" meme? I've played through the original fallout 3 times now and always thought they were pretty decent. I suppose the initial "quest" was a dick move, but they really turned out to be a positive force in the wasteland.
>>315553821
Retaliate with shitposting, genius.
>>315553808
They just hoard tech and if someone tries to destroy their tech they freak out and kill them
>>315553859
I REALLY hope so too. The idea of synths in general is really morally gray, but I feel like Bethesda won't be able to pull it off without black and white writing. If obsidian had this, it would probably be top notch.
>>315553646
It deals with majorities.
If the larger chunk in the capital wasteland decides that being white knights is a good thing, and a few traditionalists fuckoff because of it, who do you think gets to declare who what.
>>315553939
Don't listen to the retards ITT saying that BoS are bad.
In new vegas they were just fine.
>>315553398
FO3 was my first fallout and understood that the BoS were dicks.
>>315554007
New Vegas isn't canon though.
>>315553787
It's amazing to see how much of /v/ comprise of children who started with Fallout 3. I mean, Fallout 4 is going to suck anyway, but not because the Brotherhood are in an antagonistic role, which frankly is one of the better ideas Bethesda has had for the series. The only reason they ever helped you in the previous games, barring 3, is by pure circumstance and because there is a greater threat on the horizon, whether it be the Master's army, the Enclave or NCR and House wanting their heads.
>>315554007
They were more reserved in NV, they were not good or bad, they kept to themselves.
>>315553939
If not bait, play 1 and 2.
>>315554067
b8ing this hard
>>315552964
>tfw pittfag
>tfw every time it appears in a game it looks just like it does in real life.
>tfw every game it is in features some sort of apocalypse
>>315553939
Not really. It's just that most other factions are outright evil.
The only real good people at the end of fallout 1 is the NCR. Brotherhood's a bunch of elitist pricks that'll casually kill anyone who's not one of their own, kind of like the military today.
>>315553960
If you knew the first thing about FO 1 or 2 you would understand the point I was making before senpai. But have fun up there on your pedestal. :)
There's a lot of mediocre stuff in this game it seems, but the UI is truly TERRIBLE. Amazing how that's what they're going with
>>315554095
Can you not read? I've played through the original fallout multiple times. The Brotherhood did nothing wrong.
>>315553192
that was so fucking bad it was hilarious
>people actually think this is spoopy
wew lad
>>315553939
They're not really bad guys, but they're not good either. They're isolationists that kill anything that looks like it wants to use anything more than a fucking spear to hunt with.
>>315554113
lel, get some preparation h for that buttpain brah.
>>315554067
>>315553646
There were more people in the group that wanted to help people. Loyalty to their leader.
Plus the brotherhood back west technically didn't remove lyons from command, they will gladly take him back if they were to bring them something worthwhile, and if they all die out then no loss of resources. They are just ignoring any requests they make.
>>315552924
Wonder if you'll be able to refuel infinitely at the cities. If you can only find it around or buy at merchants that would mean a hard cap on the time available to use power armor.
Friendly reminder to filter the word "Todd" if you want to actually discuss Fallout
>>315554157
>UI is truly terrible
Pretty sick of this meme
Flat is in. Go take your overdesigned 90's crap elsewhere.
>>315553963
They hoard tech to prevent other disasters, and defend themselves from attackers
They're neutral
>>315553084
>what is the Railroad
>what is the Institute
>what is the Commenwealth Minutemen
At least critizice Bethesda for the actual things they messed up
>>315553137
Hero of justice for male character, crazy psychopath for second run as female. Best way to run things.
>>315554210
this
>that one fucking retard who keeps spamming his pictures thinking he's a comedic genius
we get it. todd lies.
>>315553137
bad news m8no factions
>>315554279
Seriously though, yes it's flat but fuck man I could make that shit in MS paint.
>>315553389
>standard procedure
>It's a standard procedure to attach an explosive slave collar to anyone who comes to see you and force them to do your bidding
>They couldn't have just sent one of their own men to do that shit instead of you.
>If they were worried that you found their base they could have just kept their door locked and you wouldn't have known they were in there
So we can all agree that East Coast BoS>West Coast right? They were fucking retards in New Vegas and are almost irrelevant in the NCR, since they are small in numbers and dying out. Meanwhile the FO3 BoS grows everyday, won multiple wars against the Enclave keks and stole their tech, help people, have an air force base with multiple vertibirds, and have a fucking giant robot.
>>315554135
>I'll tell him he didn't play the original fallouts, that'll show him
You still have yet to tell me why it's a crime to reuse old factions.
ok
so cats are now alive again
there are robots everywhere stripping towns of parts
brotherhood of steel are the bad guys
the institute are now the good guys
the railroad is now helping the bad guys
and.... just what the fuck?
>Make BoS good
OMG BETHESDA, STOOPID. THEY R SELF SERVING DICKS
>Make BoS bad
OMG BETHESDA, STOOPID. THEY R JUST PROTECTING THE WASTELAND
>Make BoS ambiguous
OMG BETHESDA, STOOPID. THE BOS IS OBVIOUSLY GOOD/BAD. PLAY FALLOUT 1 & 2 DUMMIES
Can't win with /v/ desu.
>>315554446
>They couldn't have just sent one of their own men to do that shit instead of you.
Did you even read anything in that entire story line?
Making your own settlement sounds rad. I hope I can add a bunch of colorful NPCs to keep around providing useful services and even provide quests, as well as a waifu.
Wait a second... isn't the Brotherhood AGAINST the synth?
How does that make them bad? Can I really not side with them?
>>315552451
It's pretty clear Beth hates the T-51b but does anyone else? I mean shouldn't the T-60 be a Player exclusive armor?
>>315554395
That's blatantly false. It says in the achievements you can join various factions.
>>315552624
They were always grey -- much more so in FO1 and 2
>>315554210
>>315554342
>you see those mountains over there?! You can climb them!
>>315554549
>cats are now alive again
Brotherhood of Steel isn't canon.
I liked the Tactics Brotherhood the best, but then again that whole game is you as a BoS recruit. R Lee Ermey should be in every video game.
>>315554585
>fuck up BoS characterization
>180 and fuck it up again
>only time they get it right is in a fucking awful dlc, and they attack you for no reason
Can't win with bethesda senpai
>>315553137
ive got some bad news for you friend......
>>315554639
synth are the good guys.
That quest in fallout 3 pretty much establishes them as the innocent androids a la Blade Runner
>>315553562
>They tried to kill you for shits and giggles when you first try to join them.
>"Yeah, go to the Glow. If you come back you're in."
That was fucking awesome.
I remember doing it and getting hopelessly addicted to rad-x.
Then I died of withdrawl symptoms hiking across the dessert on the way back.
>>315554290
Yeah, that's why in New Vegas they attack caravans and travelers if you go the independent route.
>>315554478
Ok friend, let me spoonfeed you! In Fallout 1 the player character destroys the super mutants and their only means of reproduction. In Fallout 2, the player character destroys the entirety of the Enclave's organization and equipment. Bethesda in their infinite creativity blatantly pulled excuses from the dank, dripping depths of Todd Howard's asshole just to slap those groups (along with the Brotherhood of Steel) in the game for no other reason than they couldn't think of anything better.
>>315553139
>lore breaking in 3
>they specifically said that the branch went off the brotherhood main mission due to its leader's particular wish to help the wasteland
>there's even an angry faction that wishes for them to return to the original mission of gathering technology and being completely neutral
You fags will grasp at straws to talk shit about Fallout 3.
After playing so many great japanes games and so much western garbage I have developed a strong bias against western developers and don't give a shit about western releases in general. But since you niggers are constantly spamming these threads, so, can someone explain to me why of all places is /v/ so excited for a fucking Bethesda game? Did I miss something, is the game supposed to be actually good or what?
>>315554171
You don't understand, seeing that shit as a kid was horrifying.
>>315552964
The Last of Us?
>>315554746
>180 it
>implying
The Brotherhood try to keep technology to themselves and take it from others because they feel they can not bet trusted. Synthetic machines are a danger to the world in their view.
>>315554304
Don't you love how all of those groups are from FO4? And don't say they were in FO3, because namedropping doesn't count. We'll see how their new ones hold up on release.
>BoS have a flying fortress
Why wouldn't you side with them?
>>315554796
Well, I'm going to kill them all and side with the Brotherhood if I can.
>>315554741
>I liked the Tactics Brotherhood the best
people actually played that piece of shit game?
>>315554698
There's more than one way to skin a cat, as the saying goes. {beat} Or {emphasis} went, that is - cats being extinct.
>Robert House
>>315554067
I actually wouldn't have a problem with this.
>>315554930
FO4 looks like it's going to be making the same mistake as FO3, and many long time fallout fans like myself are once again disappointed.
This is why there is lots of discussion, anon. We do talk about video games on here from time to time, believe it or not.
>>315554591
What that his own men were too shit to do it and you had to?
>>315552451
Proof?
>>315554930
Normalfag scum shitting the board
>>315554930
>why of all places is /v/ so excited for a fucking Bethesda game?
why can't people be excited about something you don't like?
how the fuck do all of you know that synths are the good guys
yes the trailer had the BoS saying that they needed to be destroyed but we don't know if the Synths are like ghouls with individual personalities and wish no harm to the wastes or if they're like the Master and view themselves as superior to humans.
>>315554834
What if I told you Rad-x is not addictive and that Radaway addiction can't kill you?
>>315553338
>Parsa R
>that face
kek'd
>>315555138
Tactics was a good game, and an alright Fallout game.
>>315555190
watch the trailer. the leader of the brotherhood literally making speeches like he's next hitler genociding the poor jews (synths)
>>315555318
synth are good guys because they were in fallout 3. see >>315554796
Just arrived from work and saw the trailer.
Let me guess, the protagonist is a cyborg with the transplanted brain from the female or the male character, and he was on stasis for 200 years.
The plot and choices will either lead your character to become the savior of the cyborgskin or the ultimate hypocrite who sides with the organics even 'tho he is a robot and destroy the good guys.
I will refund my pre-order and pirate the everlasting shit of this game. I can't believe bethesda just wasted commonwealth in a shitty I robot/mad max crossover. I'd rather just have the place on my imagination based on what the lore tells. Fuck.
Just make a fucking game about vaults, vault tec and mutants then, fuck it. Didn't new vegas taught them anything?
>>315555152
New Vegas isn't canon either.
>>315552451
>implying they were never bad guys
Please OP, at best they've always been gray.
Can I ask, who the fuck are the synth?
First time I've ever heard of them.
Fallout 3 and NV fag here and for the record NV was better.
>>315555431
No he was frozen your kid is made a synth
>>315553137
What direction is it swirling?
>>315555504
3 had a quest that set them up
>>315555504
The replicated man in FO3
>>315552772
This. They were never good guys. If anything I'm glad Bethesda finally fixed that shit. Brotherhood of Steel is canonically supposed to hate anyone without technology and think they're savage shitbags who deserve to wallow in mud.
And if you do have technology you're just a Savage playing with Fire that doesn't belong to you and you better give it up or you're gonna get lasered.
>>315555504
Look into The Replicated Man from FO3.
>>315555504
3 had a quest on that boat city, with youhaving to choose whether to save a synth or let the Institute take him back to Boston.
>>315555504
Androids. There was a quest in Rivet City in 3 where an escaped android was hiding from the Commonwealth, you could side with either of those two to complete the quest.
FO4 is going to have a lot to do with Synths and the Commonwealth, as Boston is where they're mainly located.
>>315555415
There are synths attacking you in the original reveal trailer. Synths are the bad guys
>>315552451
really?
undropped for me.
>>315555415
The fallout 3 one was one that had escaped, while the others are supposedly kept as slaves to the Institute, so I guess it could go either way.
>>315555561
Then you're will smith and your kid is the robot?
>>315555613
>not knowing the epic NV isn't canon b8
newfag
>>315555165
I played through Fallout 1&2, gave a try to 3 and it was nothing like the old ones. Bethesda hasn't made a good game since ever. It's really weird to see cyncial /v/ hyped for a new Bethesda shit, I guess reddit did really invade.
>>315555306
You can be excited all you want but we're talking new Bethesda game here. You need to be really new to video games to be excited for that. But whatever, enjoy your disapointment.
>>315555757
The Synths are morally gray, if Bethesda can do it right. You'll want to kill them because they're robots, but you won't because they resembles humans so perfectly.
>>315555709
>Brotherhood of Steel is canonically supposed to hate anyone without technolog
Don't they think they're the only ones who should have it? I didn't think they even liked House
>>315555331
That's JW, one of the top CS:GO players in the world
>/v/ actually knowing anything about video games
>>315555757
From what I gathered those appeared to be feral, or rampant synths.
They're most likely just going to be a new feral ghoul kind of enemy.
>BoS are good guys in Fallout 3
STOP FUCKING WITH THE LORE BETHESDA
>BoS are bad guys in Fallout 4
STOP FUCKING WITH THE LORE BETHESDA
>>315554078
> how much of /v/ comprise of children who started with Fallout 3
I just wanna say that I'm 22 years old and F3 was my first Fallout game (it came out when I was 15) but because I played that game I ended up playing the first two Fallout games and enjoying them quite a bit. I can't imagine I'd have ever gotten into those game had I not played Fallout 3 first.
>>315555504
Robot peoples.
There was a really stupid sidequest in FO3, where one of the guards at Rivet City was actually an android and his owner was looking for him.
Beyond that the closest theres really been is Eden and The Master, and I guess the scientists at Big Mountain.
Personally I think its stupid.
>>315552451
Looks great, Todd. Can't wait to play New Vegas the day this comes out.
>>315555848
All /v/ has done is shit on this crap you dumb motherfucker
>>315554792
Are you retarded? No really.
>>315555898
>shit tier esport fag
>game
kek
>>315555826
Your bait is weak
>>315555751
Sounds weird, might have to go back and replay 3.
I put so many hours into NV I can barely remember anything from 3 apart from the colour green and THREE DAWWWWG.
>>315555457
fuck you it is, its been mentioned in 3 separate games that cats are extinct.
fallout 3 isnt cannon, fallout 4 isnt cannon.
ARE THE BROTHERHOOD IN THIS GAME LYON'S BRANCH OR MIDWEST CHAPTER OR OUTCASTS
Kinda hard for them to go with the "protag's a synth" twist when you'll probably have a ton of animations of you dying in all sorts of gruesome ways as a human.
>>315555991
By making 20 threads per hour about it?
Factions that you can join:
BoS,
Minutemen,
Railroad
The institute
Number of quests they have
BoS > Institute > Railroad > Minutemen
BoS have 18 quests, while the Minutemen only have 8. Go figure.
>>315555898
>Caring about CounterScum
I think we need to have a talk, anon
>>315555848
>Bethesda shit, I guess reddit did really invade
You're just now realizing this? Reddit has taken over every board except for /pol/. It's at the point now where people aren't even ashamed of admitting they're from reddit.
>>315554930
Why are you here then instead of masturbating over the shitfest that's gonna be Xenoblade? No one is stopping you.
>>315556118
Have you been in any of those threads? It's just people shitting on it faggot
>>315556095
yes
>>315552952
That was clearly explained as Lyon's group being outliers, though.
>>315552838
>liking fallout 3
>caring about the lore
Pick one and only one
>>315556060
Fallout 1,2,3,4, NV, Tactics, and BoS are not canon.
Only Fallout Shelter is canon fag.
>>315556054
Are you frogetting the highlights of the game? These were mine:
>Eden
>that brunwick or w/e building
>point lookout was neat and worth mention
>>315553859
this but bethesda probably can't write morally grey factions it has to be good and le bad guys
>>315555896
Yeah they did, but they didn't have the strength to challenge him so they left him alone and picked like wounded dogs at the stuff outside of New Vegas they could touch. Like the Helios Plant.
>>315553139
Not to mention in new vegas they will massacre an entire outpost of the FoA just because they think veronica might have given them secret technology.
>>315556381
i will fuck your mouth with a bar of soap.
>>315556381
You Fallout Shelterfag are pathetically persistent.
The only thing canon is the boxart from Fallout 1.
>>315556469
If they got the Archimedes back up and running, could the BoS have taken down House?
>>315556397
I, indeed forgot all of those.
>>315554964
Horrifying as fuck.
IT JUST WORKS
They were the bad guys in NV.
>>315556606
Probably depends if you activated the platinum chip or not.
>>315553192
>That one hardass still standing at the very end.
How the fuck many robots did he put in the ground before that part?
![H._P._Lovecraft,_June_1934[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iFzXCrE.jpg "H._P._Lovecraft,_June_1934[1].jpg")
>>315556397
>that brunwick or w/e building
Nigger I will slap you.
>>315555823
I think that's not true, there was a guy fromBasically turns into a "I joined the institute because it's what might be best for mankind"and"I got rid of the institute because they were a bunch of sekrit club kids and I think we can only progress together"or some shit like that, so yeah.
However, they've been saying thatShaun is in fact, alive and well and became the leader of the institute as he was taken as a student at an early age and is the creator of the synths.I'm not really sure about the last part but that's basically what people have been saying.
Honestly it sounds much more believable to me that than the "Shaun is a synth" thing.
>>315556917
Even then, what's a securitron with a rocket launcher going to do against a fucking space laser?
The MC has to be an android, only way he would live so long.
>>315553162
>railroad
that subplot in fallout 3 was stupidthe railroading was also bad in new vegas ayyyy
>>315557025
Pic related.It's Shaun.
>not being a wild card and killing everyone on both sides
God, I hope this is possible
>>315556142
>Reddit has taken over
Whatever, people have been saying this shit for several years.
So anyone has the latest leaks, or was there nothing fresh after that escape from Mutant Tower with perpetually wet man and benign supersmurf?
>>315557025Shaun's the leader of the Institute called "Father," but he didn't create the synths. A guy who has the game posted details and screens on /vg/ last night.
>>315552964
>tfw when Vegas fag
>tfw north Vegas looks pretty much the same in game as it does here
>>315552451
Nowhere in the trailer does it say they are going to be bad or evil. BoS have always been well known douche bags. More than likely they will be a side faction fighting the Institute for that delicious tech. If anything, you get in their way due to ideological reasons.
Is it wrong if I actually liked the Brotherhood and kind of agree with them in some ways?
Plus I just love the neo-Knightly order thing.
>>315557584
>Nowhere in the trailer does it say they are going to be bad or evil.
>trailer
Where have you been?
>>315553695
That doesn't admit you fucked up, it's just the game acknowledging that Lyons' unit is not the norm.
>>315557584
>Nowhere in the trailer does it say they are going to be bad or evil
>the leader of BoS literally says "GAS THE SYNTHS RACE WARE NOW"
>>315557192
>>315557456
>Mfw his model kinda resembles james'
Shit Todd, get it together.
Thanks for clearing my doubt anons. How the hell did they even manage to get that far into the game? I remember watching the little clips that a black guy and some other guy uploaded into the vid something site but were later taken down.
It's kinda stupid to me how they said "the game is going to have 8 endings" when it all boils down to two. Maybe they included the other 6 as the factions fate? That shit is pretty misleading but then again, what can I expect from these guys.
Also, do you happen to have by any chance said info or screenshots? I'd like to look at them.
>>315557598
That's fine, anon. In 1, 2, and NV all the factions have decent writing and you can sympathize with them to some extent.
>>315557598
The BoS in 1,2, and New Vegas are the shit. Fallout 3 BoS go home.
>>315555504
Synth=Synthetics=Androids=Robots that act like humans=Harkness
>>315557362
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
For years 4chan has made fun of newfags being from reddit or neogaf or tumblr.
Now these people actually lurk here now that moot has put forth preventative measures to deal with "problematic" posting. The only thing he can't do away with completely is censoring hate speech as that would make him a complete hypocrite and force him to abandon his ideals.
>>315553068
Every faction were the bad guys in New Vegas.
>>315557843
>moot
Who?
>>315552451
Tbh as someone not at all looking forward to this game, this seems to be one of the better ideas of Bethesdas.
Outside of FO3 BOS have never been good guys, and making them antagonist makes more sense then the White Knights we got in 3.
Of course I say this knowing that asking for a faction with a little more nuance then being Good or Bad is too much to ask of Bethesdas writers.
>>315556142
>except pol
OH IM LAFFIN
It could just be the Midwest Brotherhood. Those guys became so zealous that they would probably ally with the Enclave if it meant wiping out muties.
>>315557662
They aren't evil. Even the BoS proper isn't evil. They don't go around purging entire settlements for no reason. Yeah, they hate mutants, as they should, and if you don't give them tech they will blow you away.
They've always been ass holes, but not evil. Except the main BoS in F3, which was retarded. Outcasts FTW.
>>315557752
>How the hell did they even manage to get that far into the game?
He said he kind of blew through the main quest, and even then it still looked like it was far from over.
As for other detailsthe Institute took Shaun in the first place because pre-war humans make perfect models to base synths off of. The guy who killed your spouse is an ex-NCR trooper turned merc named Kellogg, who's been working for the Institute for decades because they've extended his lifespan. After discovering Shaun is Father, you have to decide whether to side with the Institute or not.
>>315558150
>ftw
Am I being baited right now?
>>315558150
>FTW
>>315552451
Bravo Bethesda, once again reusing old factions from the first two games as your villains rather than coming up with something original.
>>315558250
the fuck a ncr trooper is doing all his way down in boston
>>315557465
Oh hey, a fellow Vegasfag.
Shame there's almost nothing of worth from the city beyond the strip in the game, and places are in the wrong spots (the novac dino is in Calif).
Still, they more or less got right where the Mt. Charleston lodge is.
>>315558424
looking fornuclear winter
>>315558351
I have a theory on that.
I think the reason they force all this shit that shouldn't be on the east coast like super mutants and ghouls and the various factions is because they know we don't respect them.
If they released fallout 4 with no brotherhood of steel, no super mutants, no fev mutants, no death claws and made up entirely new enemies and allies everyone would see their games for the farce they are. So they mask their ineptitude by clinging to inventions of other, better writers.
>>315558424
I presume he walked.given how old he has to be, he's also been working for the Institute since before FO2.
>>315557969
It's true. The only other board I can think of that has somehow kept the redditors at bay is /jp/.
>>315558738
>NCR trooper from when NCR was little more than a failing city state on the west coast
I know Bethesda likes to reference things against all reason, but come the fuck on
>>315552451
You're being silly now
Yes the game looks shit, but for once Bethesda taking things in an interesting and lore accurate direction is good
>>315557124
Shoot the solar collector
>>315557969
You and me both know that your typical redditor couldn't go 20 seconds on /pol/ without getting triggered and committing suicide.
>>315552451
Still not a fan of how the power armor looks now.
It looks like plastic and the visor looks like shit
>>315552814
Well it wasn't no reason. The leader of the contingent they had at the time was like the one level headed good guy in the organization, and he recruited in a lot of the locals.
I'm not sure these are the same brotherhood from 3. Here's hoping they're the crazy ass Chicago brotherhood who mod their shit to off the street illegal degrees. Even integrated Enclave armor into their own.
>>315558932
It still had its own guards and shit. It's really not that far out there that he had been one of them.
Also that leaker only said that he had an NCR background, not that he was specifically a trooper. Although it's likely given his change of profession.
>All these leaks
>Chinks have all game files except the dlls and .exe
>No leakers willing to send them the files
>>315558250
does anyone have any videos of this?, was a stream or is it just screenshots?
>>315552451
hopes on F4 restored
>>315559442
Just screenshots. It was just a guy on /vg/ posting what he'd come across.
>>315558250
>the Institute took Shaun in the first place because pre-war humans make perfect models to base synths off of.
>Have a vault full of pre war people
>Only take the babby
>>315559379
Yeah, they even had a west coast enclave troop in Fallout 3 who fled California all the way to the east coast somehow. You know, that dead guy in Grayditch. This guy wouldn't be the first to make the long trip.
if you join them who cares. and does anyone know if the enclave are in it?
>>315555931
Same, though 29. I mostly played C&C and goofy LucasArts Adventure games on pc when young, not stuff like Fallout. 3 got me to play the rest.
>>315559627
The player's called the Sole Survivor for a reason. Everyone else in there died. And Kellogg even comments on how they have you as a back-up as they're taking Shaun.
>>315553241
Well, at least they learned that people like factions more than they like generic good vs evil conflicts.
>>315560289
Skyrim's conflict was more interesting that 3's just because it was more morally grey. It was still shit compared to NV, though
>>315559835
>he player's called the Sole Survivor
It should now be mandatory to make a black dude who looks like he should be in Earth, Wind, and Fire.
I shall be the Soul Survivor and I shall smite the enemies of funk with my bass guitar of smooth groove
