what's the verdict on this dota-like?
Looks good
People are ass-blasted that Blizzard is using streamers as a marketing tool rather than letting them play
I hope theres a some character customization/progression but as it stands the base gameplay looks great. I played TF2 for years and the classes and maps in TF2 were a lot simpler than this, logically this should be great.
SHOULD BE
Cautiously optimistic with anything modern blizz puts out
looks like a pile of casual shit
>dota-like
>>315314029
It's an FPS with auto-aim as a mechanic.
I don't think tf2 is even close to that level of casual.
>>315315573
>Casual is bad.
How's those nails in your brain kiddo?
I hope they make a map casual as fuck as ARAM/Murder Bridge/Howling Abyss. I'm going to play the shit of that map and waste money like a mad man on skins and merchandise. :D
>>315314276
>using streamers as a marketing tool rather than letting them play
The funny thing is that Blizzard seems to believe that HotS failed because people able to easily get access to the beta, not because the game was atrociously bad.
>dota-like
but... its a class based shooter..
>>315317156
>>315321294
Am i being rused?
Are we pretending TF2 is a dota-like too now?
>dota-like
How so?
>>315321453
Nice reading comprehension skills./
>>315321575
If you're >>315321294, i misquoted you, i meant to quote >>315320360
Sorry.
>>315321641
You cant just apologize and expect me to forget every insult you threw at me you piece of shit.
are u a dota?
am i a dota?
there's no towers or creeps or water features. actually there are some water features but they aren't a core mechanic of the game.
>>315314029
>dota-like
>all these warnings about the AI singularity or whatever from scientists
>Overwatch's AI sucks ass
Everytime I see another multiplayer game with apparently bad AI.
Sorry for the slight off-topic; this trend will always, always stay true forever.
>>315314029
Shit.
>>315314276
Yes the people who call it what it is are just mad.
>>315321947
We haven't designed an AI that can teach itself.
I wish I could try it.
Modern competitive games are so fucking ass its unreal. DotA and LoL are a carbon copy of a 12 year old mod. CSGO is a carbon copy of a 15 year old mod. And thats basically it.
Arena FPS: dead
Real Time Strategy: dead
Actually interesting 'MOBAs' like Bloodline Champions: dead
Fighting Games: still locked on consoles
What have casuals done to this fucking hobby?!
>>315322351
BLC wasn't a "moba."
>>315321947
Fucking lol
Don't tell me you actually believe game AI is representative of actual AI.
>>315322351
>Blaming casuals.
>>315322178
I don't even think we need to go that far to have decent AI in videogames.
The AI in Unreal Tournament 2004 was decent enough; they can do almost everything a player can do.
But right now, all of these multiplayer-only games apparently did not improve on that. They only regressed further.
>>315322351
>Arena FPS
Dead because of poor business decisions. QL is a perfect example of this
>Real Time Strategy
Dead because EA killed all the studios
>Actually interesting 'MOBAs' like Bloodline Champions
Dead because Funcom killed BLC when it was stillborn
>Fighting Games
They're not dead. Go to a local weekly and see for yourself. Historically fighting games have been arcades and consoles only anyways.
anyone play battleborn? I'm wondering how the two compare
>>315321947
what AI?
>>315314029
Reasonable selection of waifus, husbando pickings are slim. Still has potential as they add more characters.
>>315322459
I know, false equivalency.
But every single time these kind of games come out, the AI don't even use all the features a player can do.
>>315322513
It probably takes more time to actually design decent AI and with modern developers getting even more lazier I doubt we'll ever see actual good AI in a video games.
>>315318830
for a single characters ult
but i dont like it either
>>315322151
I think people data mined that progression will be through unlocking skills. All the heroes will be unlocked from the start (nothing official though and I'm too lazy to look up source, so there's that)
It's a TF2-like, not a DOTA-like. It's 99% the same game as TF2, with different classes and abilities.
slow paced 45 degree fov generic two choke points maps garbage
literally ask me anything
>>315322665
Not him but none of these games are dead because of poor business decisions. They are dead because they put the focus on individual ability, which is something most modern competitive players hate. They play MOBAs and KnifeCollector3.0 because it enables them to shift blame.
If youre playing on a team you can always blame your team for losses. That way you dont feel shit about yourself after losing. Thats the one and only reason why these games are so successful. MOBAs basically absorbed the WoW PvP audience, who blamed losses on broken team compositions instead of their inability to hug the pillar.
Most of these people dont even give a shit about actual competition.
>>315322993
is it fun
>>315322895
Also because a good AI will beat the average player. I don't think it's necessarily that modern developers are getting lazier, I think it's a change of design philosophy (for the worse)
I've heard very good things about the original DotA and CPMA AIs.
>>315323109
fun is very subjective, but lets say if launch / early updates tf2 was 9 on the fun scale, this would be a 6, 7 with good teammates
>>315321809
>water features. actually there are some water features but they aren't a core mechanic of the game.
What the fuck is a water feature and why do you think they are in Dota?
>>315314029
I watched a stream and it seemed to play so much like TF2 it was almost dreadful.
>people keep comparing it to tf2
the only similar between tf2 and this is that they have classes and guns
game is WAY more similar to dirty bomb
>>315323035
>They are dead because they put the focus on individual ability
But that's false. SC2 still exists. Melee still exists.
SF5 is about to come out.
You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. The industry people running those genres are all fucking retarded.
For fuck's sake, even Quake Live went from free-to-play to buy-to-play on Steam because how retarded they are.
How are you going to grow a community around a genre when poor business sense kills your game?
>this is what all my waiting for TITAN has culminated into
Blizzard lost me as a fan years ago...but this still sucks to see.
>>315323316
>What the fuck is a water feature
its a kind of architectural feature, with water. they are pretty important to dotas come on man do you even dotos?
>>315323541
>WAY more similar to dirty bomb
The only thing they even have similar is use of unique abilities for each class, even then they work differently. Game is really not that similar to DB.
>>315323541
>the only similar between tf2 and this is that they have classes and guns
No, the gameflow is extremely similar. That payload map felt so much like goldrush it was uncanny.
You have the big meaty guy in front, sniper in back, medic healing the frontline, RL guy spamming, not-scouts roaming around the "side alleys" of the map.
>>315323816
and the unique abilities in overwatch are a big deal, just like they are in dirty bomb.
TF2 is more about shooting people with different guns, not using a special or an ult
really the only special abilities in tf2 are uber and arguably airblast
>>315323565
>SC2 still exists. Melee still exists.
>SF5 is about to come out.
I find it hilarious that you compare these games to titles that have 800k+ concurrent players daily.
>How are you going to grow a community around a genre when poor business sense kills your game
If people had been interested in QL they would have played the F2P version. Which brings us back to people simply not being interested in the genre as a whole. Same applies for bunch of other F2P titles.
>You don't even know what the fuck you're talking about
Coming from a guy who compares a Gamecube title that only has a competitive scene due to glitches to something like LoL, that makes a billion in annual revenues. Wonderful sample size you got there, my illiterate friend.
But go ahead. Keep thinking that people are actually interested in competitive games as soon as they dont give them the ability to blame shift anymore.
>>315323565
sc2 is deader than death
>>315323316
both teams literally spawn in fountains
How is Dirty Bomb anyway? Is it as P2W as LoL or less? After Dota I really can't handle LoL degrees of price-gouging.
>>315321294
>not because the game was atrociously bad.
it's not even bad, Blizzard is just so fucking slow at delivering updates that people are quitting because they don't update shit
>>315324058
Mate, Overwatch abilities have low cool-downs and are essential part of the character. DB abilities are niche additions to a character and have piss long cool-downs. The games hardly have anything in common. You know, apart from classes and the atrocious escort missions. They simply are too long in DB.
>>315324384
The fountain and river being "water features" is completely cosmetic. They have no relevance to genre-defining mechanics.
How is overwatch anything like dota?
>>315324613
Like half of the abilities are taken directly from DotA. To make Tracer they just took the giant bug Weaver from Dota and turned him into a young girl.
>>315324613
Heroes have cooldown abilities and ultimates
I wasn't expecting it to be all arena shooter/quake so yeah it's pretty fun
>>315324760
But overwatch is first person shooter?
Casual FPSmoba autoaim noskill
>>315324491
>it's not even bad
It is desu.
>>315324613
Tracer = Weaver
Hog = Pudge
Junkrat = Techies
>>315324958
good argument
>>315324594
m8 if theres no fountain, towers, and creeps, it aint a dota
they literally are a genre-defining system.
>>315324838
Oh, you mean something that was originally in a blizzard game called warcraft 3?(and probably other shit that was also before dota)
>>315324463
There's loadout cards in DB
Lead 1 buff
Iron 2 buffs
Bronze 3 buffs (Everything past this point is cosmetic only)
Silver
Gold
Cobalt
Event Cards
You get cases randomly in matches, there is no daily/weekly limit. Most contain lead/iron. But you can trade up 3 lead to an iron and 3 iron to a bronze etc
Took me 2/3 days of playing to unlock a bronze for every class I play
>>315323273
dont listen to this person they are a serb
We wouldn't know because we haven't played it. Only an extremely small handful of normal people even got into the beta, the vast majority of the players are blizzard friends and family, activision friends and family, then a ton of streamers/youtubers.
>>315325084
Towers and creeps are genre-defining. Fountains are not. You could easily have a game that plays very similar to DotA with no fountain.
>>315314276
>I hope theres a some character customization/progression but as it stands the base gameplay looks great.
well if the lead designer really does like TF2, then I expect we'll see this soon-ish.
>>315325064
About as good as yours, isn't it?
>>315324968
>Tracer = Weaver
Howso? Just because she rewinds time sometimes?
>Hog = Pudge
Because he pulls people closer? You're really stretching it.
>Junkrat = Techies
Um, hes a demoman if anything
Holy shit, I've forgotton how much worse dotards are compared to halofags, which are already pretty fucking bad.
If you love valve so much, why don't you compare overwatch to TF2 instead of dota? That'd be far more accurate you dumb faggots.
>>315325092
You do realize Butcher in WoW 3 is a reference right? And allot of games have hook characters like pudge.
>>315325462
lol this tripfag went from posting in dota generals to this
what happened
>>315325092
And also that other game called... dota?
i know tripfags are innately retarded but c'mon son
>>315325482
>doesn't seem to get that I'm saying pudge is the unoriginal one
>"WoW 3"
I'm fucking done.
>>315324968
>Hog = Pudge
>every hook character is a ripoff of Pudge
Mortal Kombat says hello
>>315325586
Fags happened.
as far as modern blizzard goes, overwatch actually isn't that bad.
however, it is NOT competitive in any sense. the skill ceiling is very low.
>>315325462
>Howso? Just because she rewinds time sometimes?
Yes, the fact that she has an ability that does the exact same thing as Weaver.
what a shitty kek thread baka desu senpai
post overwatch waifus
>blizzard balance
its going to suck
>>315325618
Warcraft 3 came out before dota.
You're more retarded than the tripfag.
>>315325673
because scorpio is a giant obese cunt, right?
>>315325665
Good, now fuck off shill.
>>315325750
Alright, who's to say Pudge isn't a ripoff of scorpion?
>>315325947
>Pudge is a ripoff of scorpion.
0/10 bait. Seek medical attention.
>>315325092
do you go in to every plataformer thread and sperg out how they are blatant rip offs of old games from 80s as well? Oh no, in TF2 you have to shoot other player, someone sue valve from copying multiplayer fps games before them! They even stolen the rockets! Why is this allowed?
>>315325921
>calls me the shill
>"DOTA IS BETTER DOTA IS ORIGINAL PLAY DOTA PLEASE PLAY DOTA"
I am laughing so fucking hard right now.
Go back to /vg/, aka the board created just to contain your faggotry.
>>315325863
>because scorpio is a giant obese cunt, right?
does't Hog literally say "GET OVER HERE" when he pulls people? He's hardly a direct ripoff of Pudge, and "guy who hooks people" and "fat guy who pulls people" are hardly different character archetypes
>>315326086
Seriously though, are you actually autistic?
And why do you have a trip?
>>315326086
Read
>>315325947
Why should I listen to a faggot so clinically retarded? I don't even like Dota and I think you're a fag.
>>315326082
>thread about overwatch
>dotards sperging out about how overwatch is a blatant ripoff of dota because someone has a ability that grabs a player and pulls them closer
>point out that this was around way before their baby's first rts
>"OMG WHY ARE YOU SPERGING OUT OVER HOW A GAME I LIKE RIPS OFF OLD GAMES!?"
You're so fucking retarded holy shit.
>>315326181
>can't think of anything to come back with
>points out I have a tripcode
You just got raped harder than a feminist in detroit.
>>315326493
Enjoy your vacation.
>>315326493
Ok, good response
>>315314276
>people who don't care about the game and probably didn't even subscribed to beta are in due to friends and family lists
>we are not
Now, this make me mad.
>>315326670
Just checked again. My mistake it was mentioned. It wasn't quoted on the post with the image, but its there.
>>315326573
Vacation from what?
Are you announcing you're reporting me? Thats against the rules mate, unlike anything I've said.
>>315326670
>Nobody mentioned pudge's hook until you attached that image to your post.
Want round two of your argument rape? Bend over:
>>315324968
is first time pudge is mentioned.
I'd say gg wp, but that debate was 2ez, so bg commend me.
>>315325947
To be fair, out of context that sounds extremely retarded. But it's not like Dota invented time rewinds and hooks, just as much as TF2 did not invent Rockets and classes and nobody else is allowed to have it ever.
Give me a fucking beta invite already Square Arts.
>>315327016
Exactly.
Dota also didn't even invent the genre it is part of, so calling the genre a "dota-like" is asinine.
And even if it did invent the genre, that'd be like us calling RTS games dune-likes, or fps games wolfenstein-likes. It's just a term dotards use to make themselves a ego boost.
Which funnily enough, most people who play dota, especially those on /v/, are worse at dota AND league of legends than league players are at dota and league.
Theres a reason why most only watch tourneys and boast about large prize pools, because they live vicariously through those people in said tourneys. Thats probably a form of mental retardation.
>>315326378
You started this shit, so shut the fuck up and go back to your /vg/ tripfest.
>>315327645
He didn't tho.
>>315327790
Yeah he did, find someone saying Overwatch is a Dota-like before this post >>315324613 (apart from the OP's obvious bait).
>>315327645
>You started this shit
Uh?
READY FOR THE RAPE TRAIN!?
>>315314029
>picture of overwatch
>what's the verdict on this dota-like?
bg no re 2 ez honor me zzzzzz
>>315322351
>Arena FPS
Halo killed it.
>RTS
ASSFAGGOTS killed it
>using MOBA unironically
You killed it.
>Fighting Games
Nothing changed except variety.
Why don't you guys just join the Unreal Tournament Alpha? Oh that's right, because you can't walljump, you fucking scum. All you people want to do is get "multikills" by pressing the ultimate button.
>>315328204
>part from the post saying overwatch is a dota-like find me a post saying overwatch is a dota-like
WELL APART FROM MY POSTS SHOW ME A POST WHERE I SAID HERPA DERPA
Man, I was laughing so hard my sides started to hurt.
It's a TF2-like you idiot. Dota has nothing to do with it.
>>315322351
>Fighting Games: still locked on consoles
Not entirely true any more, although I have to admit that PC online support sucks ass.
>>315324760
Weaver is a cute young girl, desu.
>>315328392
Trip's a retard, who would have thought.
>>315328564
The bait that failed did cause it you fucking moron, you did.
>>315328750
*did not cause
>this entire thread
>>315329143
It was actually decent before the trip showed up.
>>315329143
What is happening here?
>>315329426
The character named GOOFY is being GOOFY.
>dotards in charge of having a brain
desu
>>315328750
1.OP post bait
2.Trip (among others) asks how the fuck is it dota-like
3.Legions of dotards appear and try to convince everybody that some heroes copied totally original hero mechanics from dota, therefore it's dota.
4. It's trips fault.
This thread is basically who can bait harder. Everybody loses
>>315329541
I meant what are the silver disks in the basket?
>>315329857
Pins I think.
>>315318830
>A call of duty character gets added to the game
>Suddenly the entire game is call of duty
>>315330093
>mfw I want to play bastion because he seems to work like a devastator marine from 40k space marine
So fun just sitting on the point deployed with your heavy bolter.
>>315322351
>Fighting Games: still locked on consoles
For obvious reasons. It doesn't work to have standardized hardware for tournaments with PC so tournament can't be held on PC. This means people will always prefer to play on consoles (which is usually a playstation system).
>>315329681
>4. It's trips fault.
Yes, it is. Have you even read the thread?
I'll ask again: find a single dotard saying Overwatch is a Dota-like prior to this shitter showing up.
In fact, find a single person saying Overwatch is a Dota-like outside of the reply chain this guy started.
>Trip asks
And no, the guy posting bait images and insulting people is not merely "asking"
>>315330626
>In fact, find a single person saying Overwatch is a Dota-like outside of the reply chain this guy started.
Gee look at the time.
Its time once again for.
REDS
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YOUR
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Featuring this post:
>>315324384
gg no re wp 2 ez honor/commend me/like/favorite/subscribe
the verdict is that its going to be
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
for Blizz
>>315331119
fuck off no one cares
filtred
>>315321294
Where are people getting the idea it failed?
>>315331263
>2015
>not already having REDS filtered
hownew.ru
>>315331119
No, this guy is talking *about* Dota.
Try again you illiterate shitter.
>>315331175
this
not samefag desu
It looks fun. Nothing amazing or anything, but something I can pickup and play. That's honestly better these days, as games that try to boast how incredible they are like Fallout 4 tend to be incredibly disappointing and forgotten about.
If it gets support like all their other games and maintains a solid player base it might be one of my new favorite games.
>>315331393
>already
i filter him every time i see him post. you dont know that you have to click the triangle and hide post every time he posts? lol and you call me new
>bunch of anonymous posts ask how on earth is overwatch like dota
>no one tells them
>tripfag says why
>dotards come out of the wood work
>later blame the tripfag for the ruination of a thread that they themselves has a bait OP
>>315330626
>In fact, find a single person saying Overwatch is a Dota-like outside of the reply chain this guy started.
OP, but since he apparently doesn't count for some reason, you're right, he asked literally an empty void. The problem is, he was not the only one (and not the first one) asking that question.
>>315331546
>being this retarded
>not knowing you can filter names/trips and never see them again
>calling OTHER people new
holy shit
>>315314029
I didn't get invited
>>315331887
put your trip back on
>>315322897
two, actually
James Marston and the Neo-Nazi both have autoaim mechanics for their ults, though the results are slightly different
>>315332121
Doesn't one guy have an autoaiming lightning gun?
>>315329293
>not filtering trips
>"savior of arena shooters"
>"TF2 killer"
>ONE-WEAPON LIMIT
I wish there was more porn (rule 34) of the Russian muscle girl.
>>315314029
What's with the cyborg ninja? That guy isn't in the game.
>>315332303
Even if I did, he still would have shat up the thread.
>>315332379
But you can bash with that weapon!
>>315332502
DLC
>>315332502
In one of the streams (I think Ellohime) dev said that he's next to be released
It looks fun. I'm cautiously optimistic but from what I've seen on streams the only real beefs I have so far is that pressing a button to auto-aim seems like a bullshit ultimate and the HUD and flashiness of all the explosions and such can be annoying and clutter the screen.
I got into the beta yesterday and I've been playing it since yesterday.
It's...okay. Not great but not terrible. It doesn't require personal skill at all besides clicking on mans.
Case in point: I was just playing as Symettra (or however you spell her name) and just ran around spamming shields on people and putting her sentries on the corners of walls. I never went into the battlefield proper. Round ends, 15 person killstreak somehow.
Bastion is even worse. Sit in a corner, fire, win. He's worse than any sentry in TF2.
>>315332670
>The robot samurai with the long sleek sword and a fullbody suit covering his face as well is DLC.
I would call that quite well played to grab cash from weebs, mommy's credit card kids and blizzdrones
>>315314029
I take it you've never played dota
>>315327539
>And even if it did invent the genre, that'd be like us calling RTS games dune-likes, or fps games wolfenstein-likes. It's just a term dotards use to make themselves a ego boost.
Or like calling rogue-likes rogue-likes.
Also
>Dota also didn't even invent the genre it is part of, so calling the genre a "dota-like" is asinine.
Which game did then?
>>315333508
http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Aeon_of_Strife_(map)
I'm bored, I want to play overwatch
>>315314029
Does this game have a warzone type match?
It's made by blizzard and it's not 2007 anymore so I'm going to assume its bad.
It's shit
Source got the beta
