Wich one should I pick?
Jelly?
Vanilla Quake >>> Vanilla Doom
But Doom has a lot of wads and mods that are better than both.
Doom. Quake is fucking garbage in single player. One of the best multiplayer games though.
mp : Quake
sp : Doom
Neither because they're both boring, simple, outdated pieces of shit.
You'll get a lot of /v/ cred though if you pretend to like them.
>>293480279
>Quake is fucking garbage in single player
That's a myth.
Quake's single player may not be in par with Doom's, but its still fun as fuck.
>>293480410
Go back to your 3ds faggot
>>293480242
Very
>>293480069
Doom. Easily. Music, colors, fun.
>>293480460
>myth
What the fuck are you talking about? It's boring as shit.
Doom, brown and grey castles bore me.
>>293480242
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Id_Anthology
>>293480948
Fucking beautiful
quake is an insanely good game. i wish quakeworld, quake fortress, clan arena, etc were all popular right now. these mods are just as fun to play as they were back in the 90s only better with better graphics and custom engines and netcode for smoother play. i'm honestly baffled why there hasn't been more widespread big money funded efforts to revive them on a competitive level.
>>293480563
Nah, I'll play some Enemy Territory.
An actually good game.
>>293480069
Is there sourceport support of quake as good as doom's?
Is there quake campaign coop?
Is quake as fun as doom?
>>293481416
Why would they? The fan-base is very tiny, and most people just don't want to play arena shooters so you won't be able to change that. You need a sizable fan-base to have a healthy competitive scene.
>people actually enjoy 90s arena shooters
enjoy your bland as fuck GOTTAGOFAST mp with zero depth or skill ceiling
>>293481825
Who cares about multiplayer?
>>293481651
No
Yes
It's better
>>293480290
>mp : Doom
>sp : Quake
>>293480242
You know I am man.
>>293481825
>no skill ceiling
>bad
non-bunnyhopping keyboard-aimer detected.
>>293482137
Is right except for the last part, it's still a great game though.
>>293482023
I forgot quake and UT are known for their single player modes
>>293480069
Quake if you want to play something skillful
DOOM if you are one of the faggots at /vr/ that likes to pretend they are patrician because they play an old game and jerk off to wads
>>293482509
I bet you prefer HL1 to HL2 as well, faggot.
>>293482258
>>293482137
Which sourceport is good for Coop?
How many players can enter Coop?
Does quake offer a good Coop experience? The way Doom handles coop isn't as good as how Halo handles it even if Doom itself is better.
>>293480069
What do you mean? They're both free.
>>293483050
Anon, every game is free. What OP is asking is whether he should play Quake or Doom first.
>not even Doom nor Quake are safe from shitposters
Is nothing sacred?
>>293480069
Which series has the best lore?
I fucking loved both as a kid, and read all the details about them in whatever big guidebooks I could get my hands on
>>293483156
Release order or course, that way you can appreciate all the things that are different in Quake
>>293480257
This. It's really hard to give a concrete answer.
>>293483296
Story in video games is like having story in a porn film. It's expected to be there but its not that important.
>>293483296
Not much story to either of them, but...
There's tons of shit out there to read about their development, especially Doom, and it's also pretty engrossing.
>>293481812
Quake's fan base is one of the biggest in the world. You're smoking crack. The only thing stopping it from being one of the most popular games is a lack of funds. If someone who knew what they were doing and had the IP to do it, Quake could be insanely successful competitive megagame right now.
>>293483761
>>293483441
>>293483296
Realtalk
How many people say "story" when they really mean atmosphere, setting, or something else?
What's the most fun Coop First Person Shooter?
Keep in mind it needs to be a good fps but also handle coop well.
Doom doesn't handle coop that well.
My favorites are CoD Zombies and Halo coop, especially 3 (since it has 4 player, but the campaign itself unfortunately isn't that great)
Is quake Coop handled well? Is exploring some ancient bloodstained fortress with you bros, gunning down the monsters any fun in Quake?
I love Doom but Quake didn't quite do it for me. The way the weapons felt, the level design and the enemy types worked really well together in Doom. Quake's enemies were bullet sponges that didn't react to getting shot and the levels had too much annoying shit like platforming sections.
>>293484054
>How many people say "story" when they really mean atmosphere, setting
Who does this?
Story=what's happening in the game
Setting=where the game takes place
Atmosphere=how well the game can make you believe the setting is real/immersive
>>293483932
You serious? If you count "people who played and liked the game" as fan-base then sure. But the people actively play the game, or have even played the game in recent times is very small. Just look at Quake Live, sometimes I can't even find people dueling in America, and sometimes can't find CA servers for T4.
Am i the only one who really doesn't mind platforming sections in fps?
>>293484403
everybody just sucks like me
>>293484328
L4D2, Portal 2, Sven Co-op
>>293484457
I like them too, I'm not too bad at them either.
The first Quake fucking sucks. The levels are boring as shit and the music was a gigantic disappointment.
The multiplayer is the only good aspect, which is a damn shame since Doom had kickass singleplayer.
>>293484054
I never said "Story" i said "lore," the other buttfuckers can't read.
By that I meant all the weird little details about enemies, like the Grunts in Quake 1 having their brains fucked with and their pleasure centers wired to light up like Xmas trees when they kill things, or random notes on the pecking order of Hell's demons and shit.
Those little details kick ass.
>>293484546
L4D never appealed to me. I don't like how it plays.
>>293484694
Well lore is just bits of story attached to each thing isn't it?
A lotta things "are" just because. As far as I know that is.
Why didn't the Quake modding scene ever reach the level of Doom's?
>>293484328
Quake co-op is horribly boring. Monsters aren't really threatening at all.
Doom co-op is hilarious because of the mod to turn all enemies into revenants.
>>293485967
Fucking this.
Was the quake sourcecode released?
>>293480069
>Wich one should I pick?
(assuming sp)
Doom is more frantic, but the level design in Quake is stronger and skill cap is insanely higher.
I recommend Quake more, but I will note what I consider its flaws:
> shotgun is completely unsatisfying for starter weapon/balance reasons
> retarded enemy pathing, which matters more than Doom because of more compex level geometry. Carmack was the god of software renderers but was complete shit (or just negligent) at writing enemy AIs.
> even browner and uglier textures than Doom
> fewer enemies, only 1 flying type that wasn't even a damage tank
>>293485967
Higher entry barrier, I'd say. Making Doom maps is as simple as drawing lines on a grid. I've never tried my hand at Quake mapping, but even with modern mapping utilities I doubt it's as easy as Doom.
>>293486015
Well is there a mod to make the quake coop more threatening?
>>293485967
2.5D is more manageable than full 3D.
You can read and hear about how taxed everyone at id was when making Quake, even Carmack was at his limit.
Hell, Sandy Petersen used to be able to roll out practically half the levels when working on Doom/Doom2, but only made 7 for Quake.
>>293480948
>>293480242
Jesus Christ dude, can I be your friend?
>>293485967
>Why didn't the Quake modding scene ever reach the level of Doom's?
3D level design, modelling, and texturing were a lot harder than Doom's, which was basically drawing sprites and making levels of 2D floor polys with set heights.
On top of that, doing the vis and lighting calculations on Quake levels took forever back in the day.
>>293486263
Since forever.
All id games until Rage are open. (Rage is NEVER EVER)
>>293484672
I guess you liked Quake 2?
>>293486795
Hopefully, Doom 4 is.
>>293487704
so uhm
how old are you
>>293487704
Anon pls... be more gentle.
>>293487530
I wouldn't count on it now that Carmack is out of the picture.
Though if they did do it, it'd be awesome of them.
>>293487704
Did anyone else order a Doom II CD just so they could get the original wad with the Wolfenstein levels?
Quake for both sp and mp for me, just a much better experience in my opinion. After getting used to Quake/qw movement and weapon mechanics, it's very hard to go back to Doom, Q2 also feels clunky and boring in comparison.
I can agree that Quake shotgun kinda sucks, enemies might feel like bullet sponges if you're used to Doom, music is very different and color palette is super brown. Some of those things are personal preferences, and overall I just much prefer Quake gameplay and aesthetics, being a fan of early 3D stuff certainly helps.
Coop in quake is pretty much effortless to get working properly but the vanilla experience isn't really the optimal, I had a mod I made myself to make coop play better, including features like damage buffing when close to friends (otherwise damage was lower than normal and you took more damage from enemies), and actually having to restart level if all players die in a rapid succession. Sadly I've lost the mod and need to remake it one day.
I know that there are some coop wads for Doom. Are there coop levels for Quake?
