Bad enemy design general.
>>287343405
sounds like you keep getting spotted.
this must be a get gud general
>>287344091
I second this
Instant one hit kill enemies not much i can do against those
>>287344247
Dont get spotted, thats precisely what you can do. In other words, get gud.
wta gema?
>>287344247
I thought you /v/ faggots couldn't possibly have trouble against le filmic cutscene enemies. IDK how you die if there's no gameplay and it's casual shit.
>>287344091
Yup yup. Clickers aren't even close to the most frustrating thing in the game. Stalkers are much, much worse since they're instantly aware of you and run like motherfuckers. Clickers are just the poster child stage of infection.
OP is shit lol.
>>287344782
Are Stalkers that infected type that is in that ONE area when you are separated from Ellie?
I remember those enemies confusing people because they sorta look like clickers but they can still actually see, but they hear super good like clickers as well.
>>287344782
>most frustrating thing in the game
>not the goddamn bloater in the hotel basement
>>287345174
That shits easy.
>>287345119
In the basement of the hotel, with the generator? If so, yes, they're fucking dicks. They can see, and there's no getting around them. On Survivor or Grounded mode you just have to bite the fucking bullet and go full ham on them, beating ass with pipe and shotty, you aren't sneaking out of it. At least I'm not, IDK about you guys. Stealth just falls apart for me in that game, everything becomes a shitstorm.
>>287345174
The Bloater wasn't bad, you can just run past his fat ass no problem. Granted, he's fucking panic attack inducing and seems like a huge threat, but in reality you just get everything in hand before you start the genny, have the key card ready, and do a couple practice runs to that door before activating it.
Yes, practice runs. Just sprint there a couple times, get a real feel for the route, then start moving as SOON AS IT WILL LET YOU after the genny, you'll get out unscathed.
This is now a Last of Us thread.
First order of business: What is the best MP primary and why is it the semi-auto?
>>287343405
what is that supposed to be
>>287345416
The Revolver. I rarely, if ever use a long weapon.
>Revolver
>Reviver 3
>Brawler 2
>First Aid 3
Front Line Medic gives no fucks. Have two on the team and your opponents have to pull some serious shit to get executions, and downs if they're not working together. Combine that with the parts from constant healing and reviving and you have a fully upgraded revolver and endless armor to keep bitches at bay, which is more than enough once you're comfortable with Factions.
>>287345529
It's a person with a fungus infection in their brain.
>>287345398
No not those guys, I'm talking about the other guys, I think its in the Ish area, the sewers and you have to sneak and there are infected fuckin everywhere.
They aren't clickers, but they her like clickers, and they can see normally as well, its like a stage between runners and clickers and they are only in that section of the game.
>>287345416
Bow
>>287345768
Stalkers in both areas. Runners too in the Ish area though. Ish's sewer segment where you have to work with Sam has Clickers, Stalkers, and Runners in it.
Oh ok, then its the stalkers I am talking about I think.
>>287345840
>bow
>best
Haha. That's funny, anon. You're funny, anon.
>>287345416
Sounds like a plan.
>>287345398
>being in that dark as fuck basement
>hearing infected, bloater walking around
>just decide to run for that door
>swipe key card
>there's that brief delay when he opens the door and walks through
>bloater right behind me is about to throw a shroom football
>walk through as it hits the spot I was just at
>>287346502
You get used to it. Just another day on the ride that is the Joel Train. I must've done that part over ten times by now. Normal, Survivor, Survivor+, then numerous replays stacked on my Survivor account just because I was enamored with the game (it's great, fuck /v/). The bloater becomes routine as shit, but there's always a little clench as soon as that fucking genny starts.
>>287343405
I just want to grab the big chunks on its head and just tear those fuckers out.
>>287346029
dude has NO idea how to squeeze a boob
>>287346976
Teach me anon.
>>287347049
get yo palm into that shit and cup it real good, lift and gently squeeze. Bitch it aint hard
>>287346737
survivor isn't fun if something spotted me i'm fucking dead instant reset because i have no bullets to kill them all
>>287345174
I played it on grounded, got to that part and killed the stalkers and ran around the bloater.
>>287347367
You don't have bullets through most of Survivor, learn the tao of the pipe, the do of melee, if you will. It's really not hard at all against infected, the human enemies in that game are much worse to deal with.
>just got TLOU remastered (i played a bit of the ps3 version with a friend)
>start up a game on grounded
>get all the way towhere tess dies
>literally cant' get out with stealth
>spent so much time trying to get out
>just can't get out
jesus christ what a mess. And it's even worse because I used most of my ammo in the building slightly before the capitol building where you have that one clicker and all the runners.
>>287345529
an idiotic zombie design that fits right in line with current zombie culture
I'm so fucking tired of zombies, people talking about zombies, people liking zombies, people using zombies, AND PEOPLE FUCKING SAYING THAT SHIT THAT IS ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE LIKE A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE OCCURRING COULD OCCUR.
Fuck every single person who bought this game, dayz, the walking dead, or whatever the fuck else there is. There's not a fanbase alive most disgustingly cancerous than those who like zombies.
>>287345416
>not the hunting rifle
git gud
>>287347721
Take a breath bro, it's not that bad. You're going to have to beat some people to death with your fists, accept that. They'll drop you a little ammo. Don't be afraid to get too hurt, good old Ellie-bean will give you health kits, just live from fistfight to fistfight.
I don't want people getting turned off this game, it's too beautiful of a journey to not see it through. Just buckle down and beat some ass, harder times than the Capitol are coming down on you later.
Really, just go balls out. People love to preach careful approach and all this stealth horse shit, but sometimes you just have to dip your hands in brine, clench your teeth, and be the Joel.
>>287345416
Jesus that webm is amazing, saved.
>>287343405i never beat TLOU, it kept stressing me out even though i rarely died.what really killed it for me was having to reloot entire areas if i did die though
>>287348451
I'm interested in the mp more than the single player at this point, though to say i'm not interested in the story would be a lie. It's pretty cool. definitely not as great as lots of people have said so far though, the part I played at my friend's was at some power plant or something? Everyone had guns and it was a big ass shootout.
>>287344519
Last of Us
Git gud xDD
Was that weird zombie elephant fusion real, or just concept art? Do last of us zombies get much more creative than clickers?
>>287347991
Medieval fantasy is worse
>>287347991
You are one unlikable cunt mang. Get the fuck over yourself. You sound autistic as fuck
>>287348614
It's very much worth it to get through the campaign. The thing about TLOU is that because it was good, everyone overhyped its story to fuck. It's a very simple tale, the entire thing is just a vehicle to show you this slowly unfolding relationship between a terrible man and his second chance at a daughter, and what he's willing to do not to lose a second one.
TLOU isn't a masterpiece of writing by any means. It is, often though, a masterpiece of characterization. If you're not a character driven guy, and you love some intricate, multi-faceted plot, you won't love it.
The magic isn't in how amazing the story is, but how far you come with these characters through playing it. You feel really close to them, the way you do after a good JRPG or a novel. At the end of it I felt that every nigger I beat with a pipe, every motherfucker who got peek-a-goo shotty'd, all the death and frustration and close-calls weren't just me getting through the levels, I felt as though I'd actually come all that way.
When you look at Ellie's face at the end, you feel the toll of that trek, you know the weight behind Joel's few words and the pain behind Ellie's eyes. I may sound like a romantic faggot right now, but that game got me, it got me good. And despite what /v/ says, the gameplay itself was hugely entertaining. I've never had more fun beating ass in a TPS.
Addendum: get into Factions, the multiplayer, and the campaign's combat will be nothing to you. The dicks you'll face online are much more dangerous than anything in the game.
>game
Aw shit a Last of us Thread?
i fucking love Last of Us Threads.
Frontier Rifle a best.
really hate having to pay for the best shit though.
ok guys, i have 2 more dollars in my wallet and i might as well use it on TLoU. what should i buy?
i already have Frontier Rifle and Agility
>>287348821
Horseshit.
>>287349393
Honestly, nothing they've released as DLC as been worth it to me. I still opt for the Revolver, or the Burst Rifle in the rare event that I opt for a long gun. Revolver is the ultimate counter-sniping tool, and the BR can kill in one sweet Burst to the head.
As far as the DLC perks go, it's still just Reviver, First Aid, and Brawler for me. Nothing else cuts it with the way my team plays.
>>287349143
The game just isn't fun, and it's often stressful.
I just want crash bandicoot back
>>287348879
I don't give a shit.
![5478476+_9573dbcd8ab1b0dd26e2ed4830f112de[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nApfvRD.jpg "5478476+_9573dbcd8ab1b0dd26e2ed4830f112de[2].jpg")
>Yfw being the last guy on your team while the other team still has 5
>>287349557
>team
god i wish i had one.
im really fucking good by myself and i cant even imagine the good id do with a solid team.
no one is better at flanking then i amno one
>>287349763
Completely pointless elbow blades.
Last of us was such a fucking disappointment, it's amazing how much people eat it up.
![The_Last_of_Us_Concept_Art_Blob_Monster_OnePixelBrush[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/T6RJZvn.jpg "The_Last_of_Us_Concept_Art_Blob_Monster_OnePixelBrush[1].jpg")
>>287348685
Unfortunately the really out there enemy designs never made it beyond the concept art stage.
>>287345416
Wow look how useful Juno is being
>>287349639
Well, yeah, it's very stressful, it should be stressful. Many of the segments are actually designed to cause stress, because, you know, trying to stay alive here with two bullets and a rag, and that's if you're lucky enough to find a rag.
Beating hordes of fungal ass to death with a pipe never got old to me, the animations for swinging and the reactions for being hit still satisfy. All the melee just feels like a good, solid shit-kicking.
>>287349818
It's pretty much a necessity, I never play alone, that shit's not fun. Me and a bro just run dual Front Line Medics and keep each other up, winning using only revolvers most of the time. Even that's just meh compared to actually having four people, which I used to. Two moved on to remastered though.
>>287349446
It's true, medieval fantasy is way more overdone than zombies and it's a shitty setting, especially since 90% of the time it's pretty much just LOTR with the names changed.
>>287350087
Sweet mother of fuck...
>You'll never have a bff like Riley
>>287346027
>aimhelp
this is literally the easiest shit
>>287347991
but the infected in The Last of Us arent zombies
>>287350065
i was ready to tell you that you were wrong but meh
i was sort of let down campaign wise because of how much people hyped it.
and a lot of things broke immersion
the multiplayer more then made up for it though and id consider it a 5/5 if it was just the multi.
the best ive ever played actually.
>>287350205
>two moved on
survival of the fittest.
R.I.P. in peace.
>>287350087
I'm really fucking glad they didn't. I'd love to see that shit in something else, but that art looks like John Carpenter's The Thing, not a human being infected with Cordyceps.
Yeah, I know, hurr durr muh realism, but for this setting it doesn't make any fucking sense to have super fungus monsters. I didn't even like the Bloater, I thought it was really pushing it. People get infected, they lose their shit, live like filthy animals until they die, then the fungus eats the rest of them and makes their corpse into more spores. Life cycle. Horrifying fungal Gravemind doesn't fit into it.
>>287350475
Har dee fucking har har.
>>287350087
What would the name for that thing be?
Reminder.
Also, There is fucking nothing wrong with the Infected in TLOU. It's really cool how they took a interesting spin on the whole "zombie" thing and made it more believable and more human. Fuck you faggot.
>>287350087
It's a retarded idea for a "zombie" mutation, but as a stand alone creature, it looks pretty cool.
>>287350475
well the victims of Cordyceps are described primarily as zombies so ehhhh
>>287349763
mfw I feel the team judging my every move
>>287350604
Rape orchid
>>287350665
Actual animals infected with IRL Cordyceps are described as zombies a lot of the time, that's what it does, except usually to ants and Tarantulas.
>>287350205
I felt physically disgusted playing the game because of how much attention they put into the melee combat, slamming some poor assholes head against a desk and watching him bleed out in a ever growing pool of blood was too much for me.
Yeah I know it isn't real but even the thought of that kind of thing makes me wince.
So because I don't like third person shooters or stealth games in the first place I had no desire to move past the first few chapters of the game.
Only reason I had it in the first place was because it came for free with my ps4.
I remember when naughty dog used to make comfy fun games, not stupid cinematic experiences.
>>287350647
so true.
>>287350604
Your Mom
>surviving the wasteland
>see pack of guys running past you
>"run run its Your Mom!"
>wtf
>turn around and see it
>>287350665
they are not undead, they can be killed by ways zombies supposedly cant be (shot in the stomach, choked, beaten to death)
all they are are feral humans who lost their minds from an infection.
why is every feral humanoid seen as a fucking "zombie"? would you call a homeless man a zombie because he ran at you and tried to bite you?
>>287349763
>End up 1 on 7
>Win
Thank fuck the PS4 has a recording feature.
>>287350647
>It's really cool how they took a interesting spin on the whole "zombie" thing and made it more believable
This is exactly what I was fucking talking about. People like you need to be removed. It's not in the slightest believable.
>cordyceps
Fuck. off. The creatures it infects are a million times simpler than human beings.
>>287350826
yeah thats what i meant sorry i wasnt more clear
>>287350850
Just remember...
>Crash Bandicoot is dead
>FOREVER
>>287351032
because thats what a zombie has become in our culture today.
>>287350647
>>287350925
>p-people only don't like TLOU because it's a sony game!
no anon, it's just a mediocre game and story that you neogaf faggots praise as the second coming of jesusguess what faggots, I own a ps3 and played it, it's massively overrated and youthe walking dead is also shit, as are all tell-tale games
>>287350850
>attention to detail
>bad
If the crunch and bleed of melee made you sick, I think they did something right. There's nothing more comfy than to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
>>287351062
>It's not in the slightest believable
it actually is, if anything were to cause a "zombie" outbreak it would be a fungus.
and if we have no natural defense or immunities then it doesnt matter how more complex we are, it would infect us.
>>287351119
They have to reanimated his abused pulverized corpse for something eventually or they'll lose the trademark
>>287351237
or you just have bad taste is games
>>287351242
Fuck off conan, you're not even real!
>>287351259
Please fucking remove yourself. Go to Atlanta and get cast as a zombie on the walking dead or some shit, I don't give a fuck, just stop posting.
>>287343405
>yfw the first time going through a stealth section and Juno is running around enemies who don't react to her at all
>>287351237
If Remastered came out on PC with some nice graphics settings and all the DLC bundled in a nice Steam deal, you'd see a shitton of threads on /v/ day and night about it, especially the multiplayer. Just like Dark Souls, it would get a ton of attention and a "place" on this board.
>>287351149
so you would call a homeless man who runs at people and bites them a zombie
>>287351287
That's my girl.
>>287351237
What games do you like anon, I bet you play mobas or touhou games.
>>287351410
why would i want to be on a terrible show?
>>287350602
They are not, you retarded chimp, watch cordyceps infection on youtube.
It is relegated only to insects and other simple small organisms, but the concept in itself exists.
>>287351460
people would call a man on bath salts who runs at people and bites them a zombie
>>287351583
and that still doesnt make him a zombie
>>287351329
>>287351420
game's a mediocre cover shooter with zombies
story is water world tier
go back to neogaf
>>287351517
i've never played a moba or a tohou whatever, i like pretty much anything so long as it isn't shit
WRPGs or CRPGs are my favorite though
>>287351287
Fuck yeah Ellie.
Going through a bit of Grounded Mode a few weeks back one of the fucking soldiers in the Capitol Building snuck up on me and started choking me out the way you can do to them, I thought I was fucked, but then Ellie jumped up on his back and knifed him.
I didn't know whether to be proud of a daughter or attracted to a complete badass.
>>287351552
Har har har.
>>287351548
Because you like terrible shit like anything related to zombies. Now go on, your casting audition awaits. Go and limp and groan at the director like the dejected gay pornstar you are.
>this thread
shoo shoo
neogaf.com
>>287351460
Watch out, you´ll turn into a homless too!
>>287351660
>Water World
>bad
No wonder you don't enjoy things.
>>287351062
Wow. Fuck off. So what if it's not 100% realistic? It's a fucking game, creative liberties are allowed to be taken. My point was that at least the infected aren't mindless cliche zombies with no explanation behind them. The infected in TLOU are based off of a real thing and it is PLAUSIBLE that a similar event could happen irl. It's fascinating. ND did an amazing job creating a story behind the Infected that is told both through words and gameplay.
Jesus christ you are stupid
>>287351660
>story is water world tier
>WRPGs or CRPGs are my favorite though
lol opinion immediately discarded
>>287343405
>they "see" using sound
>dont make any noise by them or you will get spotted
>this should mean fuck all because they are constantly making clicking noises
>>287351701
dude i hate zombies.
>>287344091
>>287344180
No. The design is just bad.
>uses clicks to echolocate
>can't 'see' you if you're quiet
you could be dead and they'd still know something is there. Literally a retarded design.
You know what enemy pissed me off the most? Not bloaters. Not stalkers. Not humans.David
Fuck that Fucking piece of shit fight on survivor. My butt clenched so hard it didn't unclench until I saw giraffes.
>this fucking webm
my sides, here's one of my webms.
>>287351837
>Not knowing how echolocation works
Are you just pretending to be dumb?
It's even worse that the thing is in Hyrule Warriors and that it automatically gets up after you drain half of the weakness gauge
>>287351921 meant for >>287351768
Fug this game is fun.
>>287351410
How about you stop posting, since you bring, and probably are, nothing of value or merit?
Of all the explanations of the "zombie-genre" this one is by far the most probable, that doesn´t mean that it´s likely at all.
Nothing more was said, you monogloid.
>>287351902
but hearing something would tell it if that something is a food source/threat
just knowing something is there, that doesnt make noise doesnt tell a feral mindless human anything
>>287351773
But it's not fucking plausible. Quit claiming it's 'realistic', when it fucking isn't.
>>287351837
are you 12
>>287351837
nigga u stupid
There are a lot of animals like bats and whales which make calls and then listen to the echoes to locate and identify their surroundings.
It's called echolocation like this anon said >>287351954
>>287351773
Calm down bro. The Cordyceps in TLOU is based off a real fungus that does similar, terrifying things to insects and arachnids, yes, but there's no reason to get up in a fuss over some jackass who's sick of zombie fiction. I'm sick of it too. I love TLOU, but it would certainly be considered a branch of Zombie fiction.
Hell, the real life Cordyceps infected creatures are described a zombies. Doesn't mean it's bad, but it's certainly zombie fiction of a sort. Doesn't mean it's cool to go full autist and dismiss it over that, but it's not really something to argue about.
http://exhentai.org/g/776485/ea7b9ce133/
>>287351701
>Har har har.
Okay, stay an idiot then.
You seem to flaunt it proudly and relish in the ridicule you get. good for you.
>>287352039
humans can be infected by a fungus.
>>287351653
there isnt a strict formula for what a zombie is/isnt
if someone made a movie where a bunch of people were on hella bath salts and ate people and they were called zombies then that would do it since the only thing we have to go off of what is/isnt a zombie is if someones made a movie or a form of media out of one.
what a "zombie" actually is is constantly changing and saying what is/isnt is irrelevant since you have shit from the originals that werent even called zombies to World War Z sprinters to the tv show Izombie where the zombies have super human strength and can see crime after they eat brains and then look completely normal
who are you to say what isnt what a zombie is when the very definition of what a zombie even is is changing every day
>>287351837
I get what you're saying, but human beings aren't equipped with the hardware or software to properly echo-locate the way bats or whales do. Best Clickers can do is what a lot of blind people do, which is to tell what's in front of them with a sound, in this case a clicking, and to keep their ears very fucking busy listening for movement.
>>287350214
Most medieval fantasy settings are very very far from LOTR now. These days its all Warcraft copycats more or less.
>>287352162
I cannot give less of a shit about your meme posts.
>>287352163
Remove yourself.
>>287352021
Then their own AI behavior doesn't make sense under this pretense. Why click at all if they're just gonna wait to hear a sound in the first place?
I never got into the MP for TLOU. Is it still alive?
I know this is now a TLoU thread because /v/ has the attention span of a coked out orangutang, but no Tales of game has good enemy designs.
You get to spend the entire game learning how to get good at combat on squirrels and bees and shit with the occasional cool boss battle that, should a character die, will initiate a series of unfortunate events where you almost lose but miraculously come back after spending four or five life bottles.
It's weird how the Tales of games are simultaneously cool as hell and extremely shitty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTsBn36yPrg
name one thing wrong with this review
>>287352236
no, this is a zombie
a corpse said to be revived by witchcraft, especially in certain African and Caribbean religions
nothing in movies, or modern fiction is a true "zombie". people can call them what ever they want, Steve, but it doesnt make it what they call it.
>>287352424
I believe so, but don't quote me on it.
Unrelated but did anyone else here get out of the final segment where you run with Ellie out of the hospital in the first try? I barely made it and even today I still don't know ow how I did it. All the screaming and alarms and dark rooms and soldiers popping out everywhere;it really gave the segment a a nose of desperation, confusion, and urgency. I loved it, so well done.
>>287352397
get rekt
I didn't like how the majority of enemies in the ROTT remake are hitscan, it is not necessarily bad enemy design but not that fab game design. It gets annoying as shit too
Doom only had roughly five hitscan enemies, two were cannon fodder, one of them was a boss, another is made to pin down the player, and the other was part of an easter egg. The rest were either melee or fireballs for the most part (with two or three others of note having unique attacks) but had other properties that the map maker can use to great effect.
>>287352404
>Why click at all if they're just gonna wait to hear a sound in the first place?
to get around, clicking lets them see their surroundings to move about, hearing another noise alerts them to another thing in the area.
>>287352039
>>287352039
Yes it is. It's entirely possible. It's a fungal infection. It has the capability of spreading to humans. Will it? Probably fucking not. Can it? Technically yes.
While this certain type of Cordyceps currently do not affect humans, it's possible that the organism could eventually evolve and start infecting humans. That's how most modern diseases are. They start out as not being able to infect humans, but eventually evolve and are able to, in simple terms. Small pox came from cows. Because cows are domesticated, the disease was able to be around us for long enough that it eventually evolved and became able to infect humans.
>>287349639
Go cry somewhere else faggot
>>287352424
absolutely fucking positively alive and well. get into it now
play some if not all of the campaign to learn how crafting works though.
>>287352542
ok buddy
>>287352594
yeah i did
i didnt like how i know those soldiers couldve put a hundred bullets into me if it wasnt scripted though.
>>287350850
Christ, fuck off to /vr/ or something
>>287343405
>Don't make a noise
>Be perfectly still
>Still get detected
>"maybe my breathing?"
>fuckers run full speed across the room at me
Shit AI it is, then!
terrible design
>>287352940
lets be honest with ourselves
>>287352760
I bet you're part of the same people who hyped up all that shit about the bird flu in 2012 or the swine flu in 2008. You legitimately believe such a thing is would happen, and you spread it to other people. You and people like you are the source of all this fucking shit.
>>287352940
They detect you if you are like right in front of their face.
>>287350214
>medieval fantasy is way more overdone
I can't think of one game that's actually done medieval fantasy, they don't research enough to have an actual time period.
>>287351003
Chuckled like a 12 year old
>>287353072
but those arent zombie like at all, atleast pick something that comes close to the real thing in nature
>>287352542
You've got no source for that definition and the English language doesn't have a governing body to give it to you.
>>287353125
They mean generic mid-fantasy. A bit of magic, but not supermassive magic societies, swords, maces, axes, horses, etc. I can see why they would think such a way, but I disagree with their assertion that it's overdone.
Though I would like to see more low fantasy like Mountain Blade. Maybe Bannerlord will sate that, who knows, but I really want a nice big open-ish kingdom to explore as a peasant making my way up society (which isn't technically accurate to real medieval society, but whatever).
>All these fucking zombie games
>A huge boom in the zombie genre
>Zombies fucking everywhere
>Not a single fucking game where you play the zombies
>Countless fucking "PLAY GRIZZLED SURVIVORS SURVIVING A SURVIVAL SITUATION WITH ZOMBIES AND BANDITS" and parkour zombies
>NO FUCKING ZOMBIE RPGS
FUCK EVERYTHING I JUST WANT TO CREATE MY OWN ZOMBIE AND GO OUT AND RUIN HUMANITY ONE BITE AT A TIME
WHERES MY STUBBS 2
>>287353072
>I bet you're part of the same people who hyped up all that shit about the bird flu in 2012 or the swine flu in 2008
Uh no. Why the fuck would I? That's a totally different topic altogether.
>You legitimately believe such a thing is would happen, and you spread it to other people.
Like I said, It's POSSIBLE. I'm dealing in fucking facts here, bud. It's POSSIBLE, that's it. I'm not fucking hyping up anything, and i'm not saying it's going to happen either. It's basic fucking biology. Christ, man... What the fuck is your problem?
>>287352163
but a fungus cannot control humans
>>287353324
Reminds me of a game idea I had laid the framework out for, except instead of zombies, you're an interdimensional beast who's powers have been sapped by [a hunting force] and sealed away for thousands of years. Then, when you manage to break free, the original people who stole your powers had passed on their powers throughout society, and you have to kill thousands of people to eventually gain back your powers and continue on your conquest to wipe out everything in [the dimension you had gone to].
The worst fucking part is I don't have the skill, technology, or ability to make such a game and have it be good.
>>287347991
Zombie outbreaks do occur. Just look at the Republican invasion on /v/
>>287353349
It's not. You're part of the wish fulfillment crowd. For some fucking reason, you have it stuck in your head that a zombie apocalypse is needed, and you're fucking naiive enough to think that you would not be one of the millions of zombies. So, in order to sate that desire, you pretend like OH NO, A FUNGUS COULD POSSIBLY TURN US INTO ZOMBIES MAYBE and conveniently ignore all of the facts stating otherwise and instead live in your fantasy world.
>>287353508
Kind of like Megaman but with mass dimensional murder
>>287352236
izombie is just a Buffy ripoff and people don't use Buffy as the standard of what a vampire is.
What a zombie actually is are brain damaged slaves from Hati. George Romero made Night of the Living Dead and called them Ghouls. He was making a Ghoul film, not a zombie film. For whatever reason people associated the Ghouls with zombies and it stuck.
In reality bathsalts guy is closer to what a Hati zombie is as it's caused by a "drug".
I for one like the Ghoul types of Zombies when I think of them. I don't care much for the parasite, spore, or rage infected monkeys etc.
>>287353274
I know what they mean, I disagree with the assumption those qualify as the medival fantasy. Fantasy of a sort, sure, but not medival.
Then there's the issue of settings not being genres.
>>287353435
any currently living fungus cant, but its not impossible to have the modern Ophiocordyceps unilateralis to ether evolve to the point were it can infect larger creatures, which can include humans
>>287353072
Wow, you are very retarded son. Try not to display that fact so willingly in future
>>287353645
Yes it is.
>>287350432
You can literally see him manually aim for the bomb, go ruin another Bloodborne thread you autismo
>>287353645
I'm pretty sure the human immune system combined with the countless drugs and medicines we have in our possession could counter any fungus attempt at establishing a mushroom slave empire.
Not to mention cordyceps don't turn living things into raging blind monsters like the game shows, if by some chance humans were infected by cordyceps, it would make a person wander around like a braindead idiot and climb to a high area then die in an explosion of spores so the wind spread more
>>287353435
Cordyceps control lower life forms, and, although it isn't a fungus, Toxoplasma Gondii control human behaviors
>>287353613
WHAT? Dude what the fuck? Are you literally retarded? You are just making shit up in your retarded head. I stated a fucking biological fact that it would be POSSIBLE that Cordyceps could eventually evolve and infect humans, and you are bringing up all this bullshit about me wanting a zombie apocalypse and shit? What the fuck? You have issues, bud. Get help.
>>287352725
>see their surroundings to move about
so they cannot see something that is moving? You know the thing that echolocate actually is used for
>>287353613
You are a complete idiot, I sincerely can't imagine what it must be like to you
>>287353867he's one of them
>>287353615
Yeah I suppose so. It would have to be open world, and I would want the city to be pretty big, and have every house be fully explorable. There would be really no more objective than killing everything you meet and to make up for that, I'd planned for a pretty robust combat system, with a large variety of abilities and fighting styles. Also there would be a set amount of people in the city, and you could kill each and every one of them, no respawning. As well as expansions that add more cities, abilities, and combat scenarios.
Maybe someday anon. I'll hold onto it until then and just hope that I don't end up the next Molyneux.
>>287353867
>I'm pretty sure the human immune system combined with the countless drugs and medicines we have in our possession could counter any fungus attempt at establishing a mushroom slave empire.
true, we can have counters for a possble infection, but that would mean the person was infected for any treatment to be needed.
>Not to mention cordyceps don't turn living things into raging blind monsters like the game shows, if by some chance humans were infected by cordyceps, it would make a person wander around like a braindead idiot and climb to a high area then die in an explosion of spores so the wind spread more
yeah the modern fungus would be this way, but the game's fungus is a fictional evolution that infects other creatures, and does different things.
the basic point is, there is a thing in nature that takes control of bugs and controls them, making them mindless like a zombie
>>287352069
Bats find their prey without them makeing anykind of sound that's how echolocation works.
>>287352249
so they can map the entire sorrounding with their clicking but cannot spot moving things in their sorrounding with their non echolocation clicking?
>>287354047
they can see it, but what they use echolocation for is not hunting, its for moving about its surroundings. the thing that triggers them is hearing another thing make a noise, if something doesnt make a noise, they ignore it
>>287354152
because thats what bats use echolocation for, hunting.
the clickers dont use it for hunting, they use it to move around
>>287353645
The fungus would work different and wouldn't create anything like clickers. Fungus has no motives to get a host to eat people. The Fungus' only goal is to get it's host to a location to die where it can grow killing it's host and spreading more spores. Most likely it would try to affect your brains hypothalamus gland which regulates body temperature to make you cold. In animals this would cause them to seek other animals to be around for warmth. Then it would paralyze and kill the host to grow and release spores.
That however would take days and in humans would be easy to spot well before the fungus could spore.
>>287354369
They use it for hunting and moving around.
>>287354391
The infection is transmitted by bite as well. It's not too much of a stretch to say that preferential behaviour could be staying alive and biting tons of peeps.
>>287354297
>>287354369
>Hey GUYS I CAN SEE YOU BUT I AM NOT USEING ECHOLOCATION FOR HUNTING THAT'S WHY I AM NOT HUNTING YOU EVEN THOUGH THIS IS MY ONLY INSTINCT I HAVE. YOU NEED TO MAKE A NOISE BEFORE I START HUNTING YOU. BTW ALL THE OTHER CLICKERS I WILL CONVENIENTLY IGNORE EVEN THOUGH THEY MAKE ALSO A LOT OF NOISE.
this is just stupid
>>287353349
>It's POSSIBLE, that's it.
It's kind of pointless to argue possibilities, isn't it (especially with that anon)? It's possible an earthquake could cause Japan to sink into the ocean tomorrow. Will it? The likelihood is so low that most people would just laugh at you and say that it's impossible, despite the possibility existing.
>>287354493
>They use it for hunting
no they dont, them clicking around you and not seeing you clearly debunks this claim, because it it was for hunting they would attack after they detected you, but they dont, its only when they hear YOU make a noise that they attack, their echolocation has nothing to do with them attacking you
As much as we rip on this game, I gotta admit the multiplayer looks fun as fuck and those takedown animations are realistic and brutal. I wish more games were like that.
>>287354658
Depending on the sophistication and cognitive function of the infected, echolocation could be impractical for hunting for any number of reasons.
>expecting a bad enemy design thread
>get a thread of people who don't know what the word design means
>>287345416
I remember this part, i just alerted them all and funneled them into a room where i molotoved the lot of them and went on my merry way.
>>287354789
if it is good enough to see the entire sorrounding it is good enough for hunting.
>>287352249
There's some blind nigga who can echolocate shit.
>>287354912
Refresh rate might be too slow my nigga.
>>287354912
Bats can use echolocation for hunting because their ears are straight fucked. Like, astronomically better than humans.
Human ears are extremely primitive by comparison. It's not even a stretch to assume that human echolocation would be ghetto as fuck and probably not suitable for hunting.
>>287355268
>It's not even a stretch to assume that human echolocation would be ghetto as fuck and probably not suitable for hunting.
If it is that bad than they CANNOT USE IT FOR ECHOLOCATING THEIR SORROUNDINGS.
>>287355098
If that is true they cannot run because they have to wait until they can see their sorrounding again.
>>287355483
>If it is that bad than they CANNOT USE IT FOR ECHOLOCATING THEIR SORROUNDINGS
they can use a basic form of echolocation for seeing inclose surroundings, but not for moving things
>>287354717
Sorry I thought we were talking about bats for a moment.
>not even our secret LoU Threads are safe
well at least its arguing about the logistics of an in game enemy rather than blatant shit posting.
carry on.
>>287355483
there's that blind kid who can echolocate by clicking his tongue/fingers
>>287355617
HOW? YOU GODDAMN DUMBASS IF THEY CAN SEE THEIR SORROUNDING WITH ECHOLOCATION THEY CAN ALSO SEE MOVING OBJECTS IN THEIR SORROUNDING. OR DO MOVING OBJECTS HAVE SPECIAL ANTI ECHOLOCATION DEVICES?
>>287356054
and? What has that to do with anything?
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
SHUT THE FUCK UP
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
DO YOU GET IT?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND??????
????????????????????????
DO YOU FEEL STOPID NOW?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW BATS WERK.
????????????????
>>287356120
sound will reflect off a solid object alot better/stronger than a soft fleshy object.
or would be picked up alot easier by a creature not designed to use echolocation
also it seems they cant see very far with their clicking, maybe only a couple feet away from them, given the way they move
>>287356258
bats are blind like berserkers and so hunt by sound and smell.
>>287356258
i dont get what you are trying to prove
a bat's face is designed to take in sounds, a human face isnt
>>287356358
if that's true they cannot run at all
Dr. Scadden has written of his experiences with blindness. He was not born blind, but lost his sight due to illness. As a child, he learned to use echolocation well enough to ride a bicycle in traffic.
>>287354642
Fungus can't really travel through blood. You can get fungal infections from breathing in spores or touch depending on the fungus.
As for mind control it could only go so far. At best it makes people irrational like Rabies which can cause attacks. However like rabies it would most likely kill it's host within the first week of symptoms. So with something like that we would have people dropping dead faster than they could infect.
Fungus just doesn't work as fast as a virus or bacteria, and would be noticed much quicker. By the time the fungus would have grown enough to affect a person they would most likely be at a doctor being treated. Even at that point the fungus wouldn't be mature enough to spore, and the host would have to be dead by the time it did spore.
>>287353324
In l4d you can play a zombie, you can also be a zombie in Dying Light.
>>287356258
>>287356398
>>287356428
I KNOW, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND. LOOK AT OPS IMAGE. IS THAT A REGULAR FACE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Was Joel wrong?
>>287357794
yes
>>287356428
A Bat's face isn't designed at all you americans and your litterally believe in the bible.
Why was the story so bad?
>>287353543
wow sick burn top notch banter
>>287357852
>A Bat's face isn't designed at all you americans and your litterally believe in the bible.
>>287351420
PC games are inherently better.
Even shit games can be saved once they get onto PC where they can be fixed with mods. PC users aren't afraid to fix consoleshit mistakes to make games enjoyable.
>>287357957
What didn't you like about it?
>>287358314
Everything it made no sense.
>>287358378
What didn't make sense?
>>287358403
clickers
human companion AI
hip high walls everywhere where you will encounter Human enemies
>>287358495
>human companion AI
>hip high walls everywhere where you will encounter Human enemies
These don't have anything to do with the story.
>>287358495
>clickers
What didn't make sense about these? You can't just say "clickers".
>>287357794
he did nothing wrong
>>287358560
>What didn't make sense about these? You can't just say "clickers".
read the thread but in short for your their "vision" and how they can only find you when you make a noise
>These don't have anything to do with the story.
yes they have gameplay is part of the story and the most important part of a video game.
Or do you think when they have a shoot out in a western that the shoot out has nothing to do with the story?
>>287358403
Why did Joel made the long as fuck journey if he never intended to let Elli go?
>>287345416
>Press /_\ to shiv
Casual difficulty
>>287358878
>he never intended to let Elli go?
I doubt he knew that at the start. He developed a relationship with her throughout the story.
>>287346027
underrated webm
>>287343405
>Chill as fuck TLoU thread
Thank you
>>287354047
If you get too close, move too fast or make noise, they attack. Otherwise they assume you're nothing important, probably another infected.
>>287359101
so other infected don't make noises or move fast?
Which they actually all do.
>>287351904
>My butt clenched so hard it didn't unclench until I saw giraffes.
Holy shit I am laffin.
I needed that so much. Thank you.
>>287359082
>Chill as fuck TLoU thread
you havent read the thread have you
>>287358907
Sure still makes now sense. He could have just stayed with his brother.
>>287359190
The infection doesn't infect whats already infected, it wants new hosts.
>>287359190
I imagine they can differentiate between infected and non-infected. Most living things are capable of doing similar things.
>>287359370
Compared to the usual shitposting to oblivion the game gets, yes it is.
>>287357465
What exactly are you trying to say
A bat produces sound then listens for the rebound and determines his surroundings depending on the rebound
"Clickers" can only locate you if you're the one making the noise and continue tracking you after you've made noise. That's not how echolocation works.
so why is joel so handsome for being late 40s early 50s?
honestly, even if its a game. my goal is to be as handsome as that.
>>287351963
It's super fucking easy in Hyrule Warriors though.
>>287358495
>hip high walls
No shit, how else are you going to get behind cover and shoot when standing up? Game design 101
>>287351902
>If you're spotted try standing still
>>287351954
Bats don't fly into walls and shit because they aren't moving.
Turn your fucking brain on.
>>287353324
You know, years ago they slated an open world zombie rpg where you played as some kind of voodoo evil priest and the idea was supposed to be a big city with a population and you'd just infect the population how ever you wish and try to overcome shit like quarentine zones and stuff with special infected you'd have to sacrifice normal infected for.
Fuck man, that was going back years though, like early xbox 360 years.
>>287353349
It's possible that the zombies could fly.
I mean, we don't understand gravity 100%, maybe when you're a zombie you suddenly do?
>>287358495
>hip high walls everywhere where you will encounter Human enemies
I love this meme, simply epic. You literally can't make a third person cover-based shooter without these and yet braindead morons like you think they're the worst thing on the planet since yahtzee made a joke about them.
>>287359754
Not eatting fatty foods, working out regularly.
Joel would look better than he would were there no apocalypse.
>>287359690
i said the same thing earlier actually.>>287355931
>>287360270
>2 hits with the bat
>it breaks
![1406548328821[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/54cBIXt.jpg "1406548328821[2].png")
>>287360270
why does this game have such satisfying punches
>>287359560
how?
