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What role do you tend to play in MMOs and why?
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What role do you tend to play in MMOs and why?
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>>285742416
I change depending on what my team needs because I'm not an insecure faggot or a brainless autist
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>>285742640
>not an autist
>leveling at least 3 classes
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>>285742416
solo grinding one

no hells
no heavens
only this
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>>285742416
Always tank because when you're the leader you can just kick the fools. Support is for loveable betas and DPS is for braindead losers.
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>>285742805
>playing a paladin with different sets
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>>285742416
The starter towns cum dumpster.
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Tank all time every time. If you are playing MMOs longer than a year and you play DPS, you're really bad
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DPS, because it actually takes more skill than healer or tank.
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>>285742805
Rift is a lot like WoW. Except they don't fucking make you have to level another character. On a single race / class you can switch out your skill builds for another role.
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>>285743182
__________________ :^)
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>tfw tank
>queueing up and declining the queue right as the timer is about to go out over and over again
>frustrating countless people anonymously

tanks da bes
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>>285743159
>Thinks bosses can be downed with just tanks and heals
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>>285742416

I usually play Tank, Healer or DD.

feels good to be part of the Masterrace
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I usually heal since it's the best position to be able to keep a bad party stable enough to push through. Also the best to watch what is going on in general.

I like all roles but DPS is annoying for me because I have trouble going full 12 year old pissing match about my numbers.
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>>285743138
>playing wow
>autism
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>>285743362
seems like a huge waste of time.
enjoy being retarded.
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>>285742416
Tank
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What's a good MMO without a subscription fee or a small one?
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Buffer/Debuffer.
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>>285742640
This, but I prefer tank. I'm not putting the most important role in the hands of a stranger who might be incompetent, but I will also gladly switch to healer or dps if it helps get the ball rolling.
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dps because i cant get into relevant hardcore guilds playing any other role without a mic

i have aspergers cant use mic :^)
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>>285743596
>playing games
>autism
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>>285742805
>level another class instead of sitting around a city like a literal retard doing nothing after paying for game time
>autist
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>>285742416
The one MMO I played I was a tank. Was pretty fun I guess. Shitty depending on the healer though
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>>285743689
That's mildly interesting. You should be able to play healer though, for the most part they just hang back and heal.
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>>285743839
>Tank has all the threat
>STILL took damage
B-b-but DPS is h-hard!!!!
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Usually Dps, but when I played Mmo's "seriously" I always leveled a tank in case we needed an extra in the guild... Which was often.
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>>285743835
>b-b-b-but I can't possible afford to waste my $15 for this month! That was half my cheeto allowance mom!
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>>285743461
>tfw me and mah bitch did just that all the time in WoW
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>>285744030
Whiteman is pure sex
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>>285743981
>i dont know what aoe/splash/add damage is
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>>285744030
I hate to break it to you but WoW has been a pretty easy game for a while
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>>285743839
Forgot to add ranged DPS, which is both piss easy AND fun because of blasting the shit out of bosses.
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Tanks, or strength-based DPS
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>>285744110
>Not being prepped for that
>Tank suddenly is immune to those
LEL
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Dunno, never got into MMO really.

Should I buy Guild Wars 2? Going on sale for 10 euroshekels tomorrow.

Every F2P MMO seems kind shitty and I'm not gonna pay any subscription.
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>>285743638
>MMO without a subscription fee or a small one
GW1/2.
>good
This is bait and you know it.
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>>285743839
Don't forget archers and mages who just sit in the back and spam 123456 and dont have to worry about anything
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>>285743632
>this is what mmo players belive
all of you are the middle one
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>>285744187
Tank is not immune to it, but he gets heals constantly. If you are in pugs, dps gets ignored by the healer, no matter how aoe heavy the boss is.
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>>285742416
I stopped playing MMOs when they no longer became fun.

Now I watch anime and masturbate with all that free time.
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>>285744030
>thinks 5 man counts

go ahead and try that in a modern raid.
does not work.
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>>285744194
No. Guild Wars 2 was shit, is shit and will always be shit and nothing ArenaNet can do will fix that.
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>>285744123
And? Still fun outdoing DPS 'tards since TBC.
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DPS

Tank and healer should be for people who actually have the time to invest into MMOs. DPS can just hop in and not step in the fire.
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>>285743839
Why add the threat equation and actually worry about it if the tank is holding 9999% of it anyway?

And why is the DPS taking damage if the tank is holding all the aggro?

Sounds like your shit m8
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Dps peasant.
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Have you thanked your healer today /v/?
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Was tank for the longest time until I eventually got fed up with the retards and went DPS. After wrecking shit for a while I stopped MMOs completely September 2012 to enjoy glorious single player games. That backlog is shrinking.
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>>285742416
Tank. If it's a PvP oriented MMO then healer
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>>285743992
>pay a monthly subscription for a game
>dont play it
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>>285744194
>Should I buy Guild Wars 2? Going on sale for 10 euroshekels tomorrow.
If you're into ERP it's fantastic.
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>>285742416
Used to be tank exclusively, but my schedule became too unpredictable so I switched to DPS. I didn't want to join a guild as an important role only to have to tell them next week, I couldn't be there. I don't like DPS but since they're a dime a dozen, I can be flexible with my schedule.
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>>285743839
I hope DPS don't actually believe this
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>>285744250
man gw2 is such a piece of shit. i really tried
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>>285742416
I tend to go go tank is healer is solely a background class, but if healers actually get to do some combat, then I'll probably go that route. FFXI RDM was the bees knees, but there's nothing really like it in other games.
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>>285744537
No, why would I? Do I get thanked for killing the boss? No, of course not. I'm just doing my job and so are you.
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DPS
>raid wipes because healer is a fucking retard and can't keep up heals
>"WOW DPS IF YOU WEREN'T SHIT MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE WIPED"
>okay
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>>285744187
>tanks are always getting healed
you can only prepare so much.
you cant chug pots.
you cant spam self heals some classes dont have constant self heals.

it is like you have never done progression raiding.
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crowd controll/puller.

Two roles which aren't present in wow.
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>>285742416
ranged dps ,with cc if possible, always of the caster theme, as opposed to ranger/hunter
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PvP? Healer.
PvE? Anything. Preferably DPS because PvE tends to be tedious and boring and I can just slack off most of the time.
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>>285744743
>Raid dies because DPS were too busy competing with each other in the charts to follow the tactics
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>>285744423
For the price, GW2 beats all the other options.

Also everyone will always hype up the next Korean MMO, and they will always flop in the West or be Korean garbage like all the rest
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>>285744836
that is because they are rolled in to classes.

but you will just ignore those facts.
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>>285744423
There's any alternative?

>>285744660
No, I'm not.
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>>285744743
>the wipe doesn't matter because dying doesnt make you lose anything anyway
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>>285744875
>and I can just slack off most of the time
You're a perfect example of DPS
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>>285744891
>increasing the overall DPS
>bad at any point
I won't defend the morons who don't understand how to avoid the GIANT FUCKING GLOWING CIRCLES though.
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>>285744537
Always felt awkward as hell when someone did that.

It was awesome when I got a tank that was as good as me and we'd be doing the crazy shit that would piss off the dps.
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>>285744470
>And why is the DPS taking damage if the tank is holding all the aggro?
I can't speak for all MMOs but WoW has a lot of unavoidable damage. Pulsing AOEs and stuff like that.
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>>285742416

DPS master race.
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>>285744891
than you have shitty DPS.
Dead DPS is no DPS.
that is the first rule of raiding as DPS.
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>>285744995
>No, I'm not.
It's never too late to start.
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>>285744743
>dps stands in boss shit
>wonders why healer can't keep up
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http://imgur.com/a/frVfm
only reason to play mmo's anymore
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>>285745197
>DPS take unavoidable damage from boss' AoE attacks
>healers let the DPS die because they're too busy overhealing the tank
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>>285742416
#1 If available, Dedicated buffer (such as bard)
#2 tank, lead the pack, "in the virtual world, I'M the alpha male" kek
#3 dps, cuz big numbers

Healing blows, it is neither fun nor relaxing.
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>>285744752
If your dps have to cast heals on themselves then you should probably look for replacements
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>>285742416

Usually tank because I like sword and board with knightly armor. Also I'm impatient and like to rush through the instance as fast as possible. The only bar I pay attention to is my healer's mana.
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>always play Hunters
>gain no experience for real MMOs
>finally realize what a shitty class it is and switch to Cleric

I have no clue why hunter classes are so prevalent in MMOs. They're good for fucking nothing.
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>>285745197
>healer is spamming heals
>goes oom
>blames DPS
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>>285742416
What's the most difficult class of them all in any and all MMORPG games?

http://strawpoll.me/3797694
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Why is dedicated support/buffer a dead role in MMOs these days? I remember all the fun I had playing Bard in FFXI.
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>>285745368
yea replacement shaman/monk/druid heals

lots of time there is aoe unavoidable damage that "give healers something to do"
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>>285745439
DPS, because it actually requires you to completely understand your class and equipment in order to make full use of it.
1-2% can mean the difference between a wipe and a successful kill.
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>>285745387
If you mean like the WoW hunter class, it's because it makes leveling extremely easy.

>>285745539
>tfw in Asheron's Call people would level mages just to set up bot macros and have them sit in towns buffing people
>there was always at least one dedicated buffbot in each monarchy for whenever the group would go out questing

Asheron's Call had the best community out of any MMO, fuck man.
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>>285745306
>dead role
but why everyone loved a good bard, it made everyone feel like they were OP if you could get your song rotations down omg i miss it the autism is real
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I dabble in everything, but usually end up as dps because there is usually about a 1:1:2 in terms of tanks/healers/dps options.
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>>285745539
I got to experience so much content just because I switched to Bard. God damn I miss ffxi

;_;
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>>285742416
Typically I heal. Most my friends fight over the tank roll and are not that fond of healing so it was a perfect roll for me. I end up choosing a class where I can do a multiple amount of rolls if possible. For WoW I played Shaman and now for FFXIV I play Scholar (can switch to Summoner even if it's fairly boring)
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>>285742416
Priest, I like to heal shit

Take it boy ;^)
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>>285745643
I just wonder how many people on the bottom of the dps lists just coasting through the raids caused wipes and no one noticed at all. Imagine how many total shit dps must have been in every raid and the only reason why the boss went down was because there was enough not shit people there to make a difference.

Or all the raids where no one really questioned it and it was just if you were there that was good enough as the group just wiped because there was five people there who were barely pulling weight.
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Best DD class in any game? This right here.
I remember carefully planning out and timing weapon skills for max damage against counter-elemental type mobs. Parties used to message and invite me even when I wasn't LFG. Was good times, friends. Never again though.
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>>285745643
So even a 0.00001% chance in stat requirements can break down an entire guild by failing a raid the guild worked their asses off to pull?

Butterfly effects are my favorites.
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Dps is actually the hardest, but only the truly enlightened understand. Tanks simply stand there and mash cooldowns for important abilities and taunt when necessary. Healers are next hardest, but still only have to play whack-a-mole and pop cooldowns for certain phases. Dps have to understand the intricacies of their rotation, manage cooldowns, avoid abilities, do extra random shit depending on the encounter, pull good dps, position themselves, etc.
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>>285742416

Tank.

>These threads come up
>"Ugh you know that feel when you've got all your DPS but can't find a tank and/or healer"
>I have never known that feel
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>>285742416
>tfw dps is just a number game
dps should be about dodging shit counterattacking and timing, not a fucking braindead addition game
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>>285742416
DPS. No comfort zone, ever. Always pushing for better numbers. No rest.

Tank: Get aggro. Sit there on comfort zone with a giant amount of aggro. Tank swap here and there.

Healer: Comfort zone all the time. Have to push yourself here and there, usually only when your teammates suck and you have to compensate for it.
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>>285742416
tank for reason related to your pic
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Tank:
>spam three to four abilities, hold aggro

Healer:
>spam heal on tank

DPS:
>DON'T STEP IN THE FIRE
>INSTANT RAPE RADIUS HERE
>DON'T SPEND MORE THAN A NANOSECOND ATTACKING HERE OR YOU'RE FUCKED
>THE HEALER DOESN'T KNOW YOU'RE EVEN PART OF THE GROUP
>IT'S POWERING UP AGAIN, RUN AWAY
>DON'T DO TOO MUCH DAMAGE AT ONCE HERE OR YOU'LL GET ITS ATTENTION
>COMPETE WITH EVERY OTHER NIGGER IN THE GROUP FOR A SWORD THAT MAY OR MAY NOT DROP
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>>285746513
Welcome to the age of WoW, where damage is guaranteed and skill is nonexistent!
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Either a reactional healer, buffing support or highly technical melee class.
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I was really great tank at first but then I got really irritated by something and switched to dps. I can´t remember why
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>>285746162
Yes, and in my experience it's happened. I was in a pretty decent guild doing normal progression back in Cata. Me and one other were the only good DPS doing a consistent 25k+ DPS with the others coasting around 15-18k.
After one too many wipes the entire guild just collapsed and everyone scattered.
Having good DPS is vital to a guild because the entire encounter relies so extremely on them to do their job well in order to finish the fight before the healers go OOM or the tank fucks up.
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>>285742416
Healer or tank because I like to socialize when I'm playing an mmo.
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>>285746119
Many. The most obvious example are LFR where typically there are 1-3 DPS actually doing well and carrying the entire raid while the others slack off or go AFK.
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>>285746719
why does everyone forget that healers and sometimes tanks have to get out of the fire too?
also, aggro management is dead
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>>285746719
>Tank armor drops
>Everyone lets the tank take it
>Healer armor drops
>Everyone lets the healer take it
>DPS weapon/armor drops
>A battle between 3 or more players to see who is either lucky enough to nab it, or who needs it the most
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>>285742416
Melee dps. It's the most fun
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>>285743159
If you are playing MMOs longer than a year and you have this mentality, you are even worse. I played healers and tanks, especially healers though, for over 8 years and those two roles are all about staying on the comfort zone as much as you can. Sure you can push yourself all the time as a healer, but why overheal people? As a dps you are always pushing, cuz your numbers can always be better, you can always do better. Always. There is never a moment for you to rest if you want to keep going up.

Now I'm not saying there aren't comfort zone dps all around any MMO, but the role brings you the possibility to push yourself more than you can even think of when healing or tanking.
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Here is the end all be all of the trinity in mmos.

Once you have done the content once, healing/tanking is an absolute fucking joke. It's why you have so many people switch away from tanking/healing and others ADAMANTLY defending it to their deaths, for self validation.

They are both the most simple roles after performing their jobs once.

If you are ANYTHING but a massive fucking casual, you are competing for world/US/EU rankings, etc. This means your dps make or break you. Most of you fucking suck at mmos so you think that because you had to actually read a fight mechanic as a tank for normal modes/lfr shit that you are doing a hard role.

Heres the spoiler alert. You are fucking nothing without dps, sure you can down some content with just tanks/healers (which is all irrelevant old shit) but dps is what makes mmos competitive.
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DPS mainly. Sometimes i like to tank dungeons but tanking in raids is a fucking nightmare. I just like blending in to groups, i don't want people nagging at me for every single thing i do.
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Tank in modern WoW is just a dps that needs to move less
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>>285747043
Because generally speaking they really don't have to? Healers always stand a safe way back in some safe zone while the encounters rarely have the tank run arond as much as the DPS.
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>>285742416
Healer, mainly because of two reasons:
1) No one wants to play a healer.
2) Those that do play a healer are awful at it.
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>>285746719
If you dislike gameplay so much, why do you play DPS? It must be really hard for you playing a video game.
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>>285747043
>aggro management is dead
It has been for a long while. Some tanks just refuse to acknowledge it.
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>>285742416
Tank because 1 minute queues and even if you are terrible, no one wants to kick you because they don't want to spend another half hour looking for a new one.
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tank

fuck those long ass queue times
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>>285747717
>even if you are terrible,
For you to even consider that a valid point at all, I take it you are terrible then?
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>>285747519
I'd love to know how you got "I HATE GAMEPLAY" out of a post that basically boils down to "DPS is not as braindead as you think"
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I can say without a doubt as a healer, that people generally blame dps for things because it's an easy out. But when you have a tank or a healer who is bad it is very obvious. I remember running a 24 man raid in FFXIV with my friend and we were both healing the one 8 man. It was my first time and we had to split up because the 2 healers in one of the other 8 mans couldn't keep them up and I ended up healing my 7 man group alone.

If you have a tank that doesn't know how to position or to take aggro off of healers you know very fast.

DPS is just a go to because it's easy to blame when everything else is going well.
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>>285747373
>mfw our healers talk about healer rankings
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>>285747717
>tank is doing terribly
>outright tell him he's shit and initiate a vote kick
>the group refuses, then initiate a kick for me
>removed from the group and forced to sit back in an 30+ minute long queue

Fucking faggots.
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>>285747883
For new instances/raids I have trouble because I haven't run them through before. All other instances and raids I could run in my sleep.
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Healer because I enjoy being used and passed around like a good little slut
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>>285747414
Low quality bait but I'll bite.

Try tanking any of the last four raids like that on hc/mythic and see what happens. If you're going to tell me encounters like shadow shamans in SoO, Iron Qon in ToT or Imperator in HM don't require skill as a tank on the highest difficulty, you are a special breed of retard. I don't even play a tank.
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>tfw you cannot choose a role you like and flip flop between them constantly

anyone know this feel
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>>285747898
Shut the fuck up, weeb
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I played in a top 200 US guild when I played WoW (stopped after the first patch of cata). And I played healer. The thing is, every role is equally vital to the success of the raid. On actually hard content every single person in the raid is key.

But usually tanks are bros. Dps can be elitist and obnoxious, but healers are the fucking worst. They constantly have this god complex that they are SO invaluable and they are some kind of fucking saint because they CHOOSE to play support. They get bossy, use their rarity as a bargaining chip, and constantly guild hop like the faggots that they are.
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>>285742416
Mainly Tank, and sometimes DPS. I like tank just for being able to crowd control what goes on, and being able to tell if I mess up or not. DPS is also fun but I don't think some folks realize that when playing DPS you have to maintain a constant watch and uptime on your attacks.
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Tank because I'm a masochist and I enjoy being used.
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>>285748141
>I don't even play tank
Then don't talk, shitter. I'm a tank and it's still piss easy, just like the rest of the dungeons when they were released.
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>>285742416
I like to play healer, my friends force me into tank if they play.

If a multi-pet/minion class exist (summoner, puppeteer, necro, durid ect... ) I'll play them no matter what, but only if they can control two or more pets/minons at a time
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>>285747951
Healer rankings suck. It's the most obnoxious thing in any raid.

I used to play healer on a server top guild and it was ridiculous. My day consisted of trying to heal everyone as quick as possible in order to "steal" heal from the other healers and make them overheal, which didn't count for the meters, so I would be the top 1 healer. It's all about fucking your guildmate so his cast is useless [overheal] by the time it goes off.

At least when you are doing dps you aren't taking away dps from your other friends.
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>>285748342
Ruri a shit
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>People trying to make their class seem harder than it actually is.

Let's get serious. No role in any modern MMO is actually hard. It all boils down to a rotation. Hell, some addons in WoW actually tell you when to do things and what attacks are coming. Some even tell you when to switch tanks and everything.
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>>285748141
>I don't even play a tank.
You sure showed him with that mid-quality bait.
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>>285747373

Great post
Well meme'd

You DPS sure get buttblasted when you're clogging up LFG, huh? You're the dime-a-dozen role and no one wants you because they can always find another person with the same "skills" you think you're bringing to the table.
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I used to always play tank cause typically I wanted to run in and kill shit, but I honestly like being a healer now. Even when you travel alone, you can't help but stumble across a party that wants you in. Plus, managing people's hp and buffs is surprisingly fun.
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>>285747978
Serves you right.
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>>285748209
This is true for every role you fucking faggot. I was in a better guild than you and went through easily 5 guilds over the years and experienced people just like you are describing in every role.

The one dps that is fucking amazing and is part of the reason for your guilds success acts like this just as much as "healfag" that wants special treatment to keep healing.
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>>285748314

Actual tank here

>SoO
>ToT
>HM
>dungeons

Jesus christ anon, are you even trying?
How retarded are you, anon?
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>>285744537
If a random healer comes by and heals me when I'm not on a team with them I'll thank them because they didn't need to do that.
If I'm on a team with them it's their job to heal so I don't thank them.
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>>285748563
How retarded are you? They're literally just bigger dungeons, you sperglord.
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>>285748475
>LFG

good joke shitter

2/10 because you got me to respond
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>>285748542
Serves me right for being the one to have the balls to tell a stuck up tank he's shit and finally having enough wiping on shit. I should have kept my mouth shut like a good boy.

Get bent.
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>>285748412
Caring in the first place is fucking retarded.

Did anyone die/almost die?
Did you ever run out of MP?
No? Congruatulations, you did your job perfectly. You can't quantify healer skill like that.
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>>285742416
Whatever is needed. If I have a choice, though, it's usually healer.

After you scroll past this post you'll forget me forever.
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Healer, because you almost never get to play as one in single player games. But I haven't played a mmo in years
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>>285748729
almost all upper end guilds care, its fucking retarded but it's the product of logs

REALLY good guilds dont worry about it, but average-upper average absolutely do
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Healer because MMO's are boring as shit and keeping the party on the verge of death gets my blood pumping a little bit. Also fast queues.
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I play every role.
>EVERY
>FUCKING
>ROLE
>EVER
>MADE
You need a healer? BAM! Holy Light.
What's that, the tank died and you need a new one for the last 5%? BAM, shield time.

Whats that, the stupid Druid and Huntard can't do fucking squat?
BAM, Hammer of Justice.
>Paladin Pro
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tanks and healers. You can throw a rock hit a DPS have it bounce off and hit another, and their response would be "LFG?". Also, anyone who says it takes more skill to play DPS than tank or healer needs their head checked. Lets be honest, I can teach a dog a rotation. And lets be more honest, that's all most MMO's are, learning a rotation (providing most dps, best damage reduction, highest threat, lowest threat, best mana/force/whatever efficiency, blah blah blah), and paying attention to everything, all the time, knowing your class and the gear you need/should have and the spec you need/should have for what you're trying to do.
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Tank is boring and easy. The only good part of playing Tank is knowing at least you don't have to deal with a shit Tank ruining your run.

Healing is where it's at, most important role, always carrying the group in anything but the lowest level content, if someone fucks up you are there to patch up their mistake. Maximum awareness needed tracking yourself, the boss and the entire party while the other roles only track 1 or 2 of those elements at a time.

DPS are faggots. DPS checks exist so they actually have a purpose. They still fail that.
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>>285747370
What the fuck are you talking about? It's just dealing damage! It's all you do! You and two other assholes, just deal damage! No pressure you, you just have to keep plinking away at the enemy. I can go to any pub and get any number of guys that deal damage, jesus.
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>>285742416
mmos are shit
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>all of these terrible fucking tanks/healers talking about how they play that role so they dont have to sit in dps queues

Holy fuck do you absolute shitters not have guilds or friends? What is the point of playing a mmo other than runescape if you're just going to do lfg/lfr? It's like a fucking facebook game.
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>MapleStory
>Pick spearman because I knew the lease about them and wanted to try something new
>Surely when they level up enough they'll rival other classes
>Mages still best class by the end
>Thieves attacker quicker AND harder
>Spearman and the classes they split into never gain the ability to hit more than like six times per hit
>tfw most interesting melee class is worst class in entire game
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>>285748729
That's generally how I rank it. Even when the tank fucks up a little and loses aggro, I get them saying sorry for that and my response is always "Did anyone die? No? Then I don't care man, no worries."
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>>285748724
Hey, it's ok to criticize, but initiating votekick out of sudden is a dick move. You should have suggested him to go try some other raid instead.The fact that people were more eager to get wiped yet another time then to stay with you should tell you something.
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>>285748724
>Telling someone they are shit and having enough of wiping

Yeah, see this is your fault. Maybe next time try and help by explaining to the tank what he could be doing to better himself instead of shitting all over him.
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>>285748475
Quite the other way around. Anyone can heal enough to go through content. Anyone can tank enough to go through content. And there is nothing else you can do really besides that when you are tanking or healing. Just heal enough so people don't die. Just tank enough so you don't lose aggro.
You can't have an excellent healer that will blow every other healer away cuz, well, after a certain point you are just overhealing and who wants that?
You can't have an excellent tank that will blow every other tank away cuz well, every tank is keeping aggro and taking little damage, whats the major difference?

For dps there is no roof like there is for those 2 roles. There isn't "enough" for a decent dps. He will always be pushing to do better numbers, all the fucking time. Every second of the encounter he will be perfecting his play so his damage can grow even more. That means you can have some excellent dps that will blow the fuck out of anyone else, and those are extremely valuable for any raid leader with a brain. If you have any experience you will know those kind of dps players are worth more than any tank or healer.
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Is there any MMO that is actually worth playing? GW2 is going to be 10 dollars tomorrow and its B2P, ESO is going B2P later this month but that just looks like trash all around.
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>>285749593
It's not my job to babysit him, all the info he could ever need is on the internet. Even if he's a 12 year old he can just google it and find out what to do.
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>>285748412
>At least when you are doing dps you aren't taking away dps from your other friends.
>mfw people start complaining when i solo add waves with TG reckstorm
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>>285749628
You are absolutely correct but cutting healers down in exchange for dps spots makes healers able to do that.

That's very rare though, and 9/10 times a farm mechanic to delay boredom.
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>>285749272
Spearman was definitely better than White Knight, not by much, but better. And in 2nd job, Spearman is definitely better than Bandit
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>>285749703
All mmos are absolute shit. XIV is kind of fun for a few months, but it isn't good in the long run, TONS of flaws.

If you are into runescape, osrs is pretty good and hasn't been fucked up yet.
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>>285747373
Such a hard class. That's why there are tons of DPS.
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>>285743839
so fucking true

at least in WoW during Wotlk time.
tanking and healing is completely braindead, the only people that have to put some effort in gearing/spreadsheets etc. were the DPS
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>>285749056
Read a post before you reply to it. You are making the party you are trying to defend look bad because of your stupidity.
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>>285750018
You are immensely dense.

There are A LOT of terrible dps, but very few good ones. Did you miss my point you fucking braindead dickslag.
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>>285749272
In the early days Tiger was the best player in MS and he was a Spearman. Though that nigga died after some huge update and the game gained more popularity.
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DPS because the race is fun
You have to be on top of shit or your ass is grass, and nobody will give a fuck. Doing damage, dodging aoe's and shit, whatever. There are thousands that do what you do already.

>mwf I read these threads
>reading stories about brain-dead niggers standing in the stupid

I consider myself a pretty shit player, but generally move when dangerous shit happens
>usually last to die when shit goes horribly wrong

What people do you guys normally play with?
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I always liked mesmer/illusionist.
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>>285750472
i too like the memer
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>>285749708
It's called being constructive instead of being a dickhead.
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i really enjoy tanky healers, but i was only ever to play one in WoW with my restoration/enhancement pvp shaman. hard as fuck to kill and kept the team alive. felt amazing.
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>>285742416
Healer because I prefer to help people instead of trying to be top dps or tank.
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>>285747373
Truth.
DPS is the only role not hard-capped in skill - or at least only hard-capped by 100% perfect play which is only really possible in theory.
On the other hand once you're good enough that no one in your raid who doesn't make an egregious mistake dies as a healer/tank, there's no room to improve.
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>Started playing FFXIV as Healer
>Have a problem recently where tanks will just sprint through long corridors and not stop, giving me no chance to heal them because they run out of range and I can't cast by running.
>The tank stops running at like an 1/8 health and promptly dies.

Am I missing something? I don't understand why they refuse to aggro single mobs or at least give time for healing.
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>>285750658
>constructive
Baby whose first mmo was WoW detected, git gud kiddo.
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I have literally never tried tanking. Why? Because tanks are always the ones complaining about everything, insisting on getting everything done quickly, bitching at people for insignificant errors that don't effect the outcome of the game.

It's not that I don't appreciate tanks, but it seems like being a tank is nothing but misery, and if I tanked I would instantly hate everyone on my team. I only heal and DPS.
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Tank or healer seeing as most niggers play for damage dealing tunnel vision with autism. Less wait time, and at least I feel like I'm in control.
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>members online on non-raid days: 2
>members online 10 minutes before raid: 6
>members online 2 mins after raid time: 25
>members online 10 seconds after raid time: 4
What happened to community?
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>>285751524
I'm fucking retarded
>members online 2 mins after raid started: all of 'em
>members online a fucking nanosecond after the group is done: nobody
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>>285751701
There isn't much to do outside raiding, most of the time people go to sleep after raid, and come home from work/school before, some people still hang out in mumble/vent after though.
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>>285749810
I am also sad to add that in current wow there is little to no room for self improvement.
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If theres a class with a Glaive or Spear, I pick that one. If there isnt, I generally go healer.
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>Doing LFR dungeons in ffxiv to grind exp
>get queued into a lowish level dungeon I've done a billion times
>pulling groups when the tank says to wait
>killing adds with the dps during boss battles
>spamming the quickly casted debuff remover spell with an annoyingly loud noise on everyone during down time
>banter when tank bitches at me for pulling groups
>constantly dpsing, letting tank get to 1/6 health before healing
>3 player recommendations

WHM all day every day. I've nearly got the second recommendation achievement and I'm still like level 40.
On a more serious note, I enjoy playing healer because its so intense when shit hits the fan.

>in a higher level dungeon I had just unlocked
>on the final boss, a dragon that throws out constant circles of ice that stay dangerous and occasionally covers entires swathes of the arena in near instant kill ice blasts
>tank is doing an excellent job, but one of the dps, a monk I think, keeps getting hit but the death ray
>try my best to keep him alive, but he keeps walking into every area hazard
>pop my spell speed cd and revive him during a fight I've never done before, not knowing if I've just fucked the tank
>nearly running out of mana and mana resotriation cds by the end of the fight
shits intense
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>>285750992
they're doing big pulls with the intention of taking the enemies out using AoE stuff.

All you can really do is wait for him to stop moving and heal him. Most people don't' do big pulls until DD though.
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>>285742805
let me tell you about alamo
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>>285744603
so if you're not spending 100% of your time on a game you aren't playing it?

thanks anon! good to know one day ill reach your level of autism
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>>285744537
>>285743632
>>285743839
these are what I came here for
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>>285742416
Healer, Dps or Support.
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>>285744194
Going on sale where?
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>>285752034
Tanks are always so fucking impressed at a properly executed Bene. Try it some time.
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>>285750992
spring after them, nigga. You arent using the tp anyways. Pre level 30 cure heals like 4/10s of the tanks hp.
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What mmos are worth trying? Paid or not

I've been playing aurakingdom a bit
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Healer. If the group is good, It's nice and chill. If the rest of the group is shit, being a good healer makes the most difference, slightly more-so than tank.

Play DPS and the tank and healer are shit, everything will be horrible. Play tank and the healer and DPS is shit, people are dying all over the place. At least as healer you can kinda clutch heal through everything and baby everyone.
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>>285742416
I usually start with either an archer or a close combat character.
After i get familiar with the game i try the support classes.

I love playing as a healer, it's one of the most fun classes to play as imo.
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>>285752471
Yeah, that looks like a fun spell. Can't wait for 50.
although by then I'll have to start on arcanist for eye for an eye and thaum for swiftcast.
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>>285750992
When you see this happening, do NOT cast anything until he's done pulling. In the meantime, pop PoM and DS and start healing as soon as it's safe. You may want to even swiftcast a cure II. If he dies before he's done pulling that's his fault for not having enough HP or popping cooldowns.
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Do people honestly find healing/tanking fun? I've tried both and they just feel repetitive and dull compared to DPS.
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>>285752592
If you want to muh progression saldy wow is the best option. The raids have 3 difficulties and have like 10 bosses each.

For everything else ffxiv is better. Problem is ffxiv current "raid" which would be the final coil, only has 4 bosses and 2 of them are piss easy. And it was released like 4 months ago.
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>>285751014
Yeah, it was. I don't see the point of your argument. I played during vanilla. I still think it's better to be constructive over being a dickhead. But whatever makes you feel better about yourself nerd.
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>>285752893
Crystal Tower is a fun set of 24 man raids

heavensward will have Alexander being the new Coil.
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>>285752482
sprint*
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>>285752865
It really depends on the MMO and on the class.

You can't comprehend the amount of fun I had with my warrior in WoW before they gutted the class.
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>>285753115
>Crystal Tower is a fun set of 24 man raids
Its puggable. Don't get me wrong its fun, but it is puggable and done with little to no effort. Which is why I didn't even mention it when I was talking about muh progression.
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Usually DPS that use use fuckhuge weapons like greatswords or hammers. For all the things Tera did wrong, the berserker class isn't one of them.

However I like playing tanks and healers if they're different. Sword and board tanks are shit tier so I only play one if there's an evasion tank or a magic tank or whatever. Same with healers. Spamming heal is kind of lame, but I liked the Chloromancer in Rift.
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>>285752865
I HATED healing in WoW. Healing as a Medic in Wildstar was the most fun I've ever had in an MMO
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>>285752893
>saldy
Sadly

>>285753115
Sure. But really saying there will be new things in an expac is not even an argument. That's what expacs are supposed to have, it's an expac after all.
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>>285749272
Hyper body was one of the best buffs back then before everyone had 1000000000 hp so alot of people needed Spearmen/DKs around.

I played Crossbowman pre bigbang, and jesus was that class hated and slow as fuck.
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Sword 'n board tank.
It's easy and chill, quick queues and best of all, I don't ever have to deal with other tanks.
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i love being the heal bitch.
something about running after, healing and serving the big buff tank just gets me off.
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>>285743461
>WoW had to put in berserk timers just to make this true
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>>285752845
Like I said, he's usually at 1/8 when he finally stops moving and I can actually heal, and by that time it's too late. I'm an SCH 45 so I don't have most the skills you're referring to.
>>285752482
It's a level 45 and I need about 7 heals to bring someone back to full. Even if I sprint, I need to stop moving to cast heal and by then they're to far away.
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>>285752893
Anything else to try even if just for a couple weeks? I can see myself enjoying aurakingdom for a while, but not really a 10 year investment like wow
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>>285754432
If you want to muh hardcore wildstar is worth a mention. If you don't mind bugs.
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Healer 'cause i'm a lazy cunt.
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>>285754740
A game that isn't dead?
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>>285754432
GW2 is B2P and 10 dollars tomorrow, ESO is B2P later this month.

I hear TERA is okay but everything I've seen about that makes the combat look like trash
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>>285754842
What does it matter if few people play if you can find your guild and play with them?

Really though, I don't know. I can think of a few names but none are worth a mention imo. Go play Rift or something.
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>>285755248
The Combat is pretty trash, your attacks have next to no weight to them even with large weapons, so its like you're hitting a spongy wall. Larger fights are just you hitting with safe attacks until you need to dodge a massive hit etc.
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>>285755897
This is exactly what Black Desert looks like but people are still thinking another Korean MMO has a chance to be good. Its all pretty and flashy, not oomph
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I play every role, but lets face it guys. It's about learning a rotation, learning your class, knowing your gear, and paying fucking attention. This makes you better than about 90% Anyone who says that one class takes more skill than another is a fucking toolbag defending their class. That said, tanks and healers are nice for all kinds of reasons, and DPS are a dime a dozen, doesn't matter WHAT game you play. Also DPS are where you see the most retards, I think everyone can agree on this, so from there on, the choice is just what game you play. For me it's SWTOR, but I've played just about everything else. I like the Star Wars universe.
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I can do anything but be a dedicated healer.
I can't handle that responsibility, yo.
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I don't know what is a Alch in Mabinogi but I love it. I think is support + DPS
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>>285742416
Healer because it makes my dick tingly playing a female support for the strong players in my group.
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I like to play tanks but it gets tiresome having to carry people through dungeons.

I like to play healers but it gets frustrating being unable to really influence the fight, you're just keeping people alive long enough for them to kill. The green dragon fight in ICC was a nice alternate healing fight.

I like playing dps most now because you have the least responsibilities to others and influence fights the most. The faster shit dies the faster you win, it's that simple.

In an MMO I can only control/play one character/role so I would currently choose DPS because you control your own destiny in most cases.
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