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http://www.gamerampage.net/all/valve-announces-source-engine-2-steam-link-and-steam-vr-at-gdc

>source 2 finally announced

>tf3 , new cs, and more importantly hl3 possible

Why aren't we talking about this?
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>>285561626
>tf3 , new cs, and more importantly hl3 possible

where are you getting these ideas? i dont see anything about any of that in the article.
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>>285561626
>still wanting HL3
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>>285561626
who fucking cares aabout tf3 and new cs
what's wrong with csgo
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>>285561789
What do you think they would announce an engine and have NO games in development for it?
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>>285561871

>what's wrong with csgo

are we really going to have this argument?
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>>285561913
It's obvious that games are being developed with the new engine, but you're speculating specific games off nothing.
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>>285562078
>Speculation
>On /v/

it's like we're meant to speculate and discuss stuff or something
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Why is this not on the front page of IGN? Or some other big name site?
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>>285561626
Dota 2, Counter Strike: Global Offensive, and Team Fortress 2 are getting ported. Sorry to dash your hopes on no hats and tick rates. If you really want to look forward to something, my guess is new Left 4 Dead, maybe a new Portal.
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>>285562523

typical valve , lazy as fuck
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>>285562078
valve makes these james
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>Half-Life 3 on Source 2
>not Source 3
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>>285563035
That's what you think.

>valve waits another 10 years, announcing source 3 with hl3
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Have they shown off what Source 2 can do or just said it's a thing?
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Actually no game has been announced.
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>>285563289

No games announced but how far off can they be?
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>>285562523

> /bin

Bitches In Nederlands confirmed

The new VR lewd game
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>>285561626
>Source 2 has NO GAEMS
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>>285561626
I wasn't an infant when HL2 was announced. Source was tied to it from day 1. They were basically the same announcement. The fact Source 2 was announced without even a hint of HL3 says something. Something bad.

Give up fellas. It hurts less and if it ever does materialize you'll be just as excited. I stopped thinking it was gonna happen several years ago. Valve makes too much money off of Steam. To switch 100-200 staff to HL3 now would be a poor use of resources.
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>>285563953
HL3 will come , sooner than later
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>>285563953
Valve has several other talks this week, it's still happening.

R-right g-g-guys?
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>>285561626
What do you want to see in TF3 and HL3?
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>TF3, new CS, HL3
Fuck that.

Bring back Day of Defeat.
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>>285564114

Gaben comes into scene with a VR headset.

"You may be wondering what this /bin folder you always seen what, did you think it was binaries? Wrong! Welcome to the waifu age: Bitches In Nederlands!"

Crowd roars like an erupting volcano full of raging dinosaurs.
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>>285564078
>sooner than later

Gabe said that it is not in production at the moment two days ago. It''l be later rather than soon.
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>>285564553
>not in production
>leaks everywhere

it exists anon
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>>285564114
The only chance of it being announced is at an actual game event, not gdc.
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>>285564380
my nigga

what improvements would you make?
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>>285564659
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, i'm just quoting gaben
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>>285562523
Dota 2 already got ported to the new Source 2 engine, the workshop alpha tools already prove this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B31i9QPugzQ

The push for Source 2 is mostly so people can create custom gametypes for Dota 2 via the Steam Workshop, on top of that they can finally implement new mechanics and visuals that weren't possible with the first Source engine.
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>>285564676
Not really. Gaben could walk into a corner 7/11 with a laptop and show a few people HL3, and the internet would explode 15 minutes later.
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>>285564380
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>>285564858
This , will you remember what you're doing when HL3 is announced?
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>>285561626
fuck year

2015 : the year of gaben
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>>285561626
looking forward to TF3 the most
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>>285561626
Is anybody actually still waiting for HL3 , TF3 and a new CS?

Does anybody still care?
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We need a real new CS and not GO. So many custom maps and shit still don't work in GO as they did in source.
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>>285561626
who wants this thing?

>stream steam to every room in your house for 49.99

buy them fast goys!
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>valve making a single player game
top lel
Hopefully source 2 will have good movement, it's still shit in cs:go.
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>>285561626
>tf3

Anybody who thinks this will happen is horrifically wrong.

TF2 is pretty much Valve's biggest seller alongside Dota 2. They wouldn't make a new installment and let their cash cow die like that.

Even today they're still updating the game, plus a Source 2 port is already confirmed (see >>285562523).
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>>285566639
>Is anybody actually still waiting for HL3 , TF3 and a new CS?
>waiting for... TF3
VALVe can't even keep TF2 alive.
They killed off all the custom servers (and the communities based around them) by fucking with the quickplay system.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3070224
But who gives a shit! As long as people keep unboxing unusual hats/taunts, and keep playing MvM for Australium weapons, who gives a shit about the playerbase!
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>>285566802
if it was sony and not steam you would buy it in an instant faggot i know you sonys by now
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https://www.khronos.org/news/press/khronos-reveals-vulkan-api-for-high-efficiency-graphics-and-compute-on-gpus

>Vulkan: The Future of High Performance Graphics – hosted by Valve
>Thursday, March 5 at 10-11AM
>Venue: Room 2006 in the West Hall of the GDC Conference
>A technical preview of the Vulkan API, with advanced techniques and live demos of real-world applications running on Vulkan drivers and hardware

FIRST THEY ANNOUNCE THE ENGINE, THEN THE GAMES - IT'S HAPPENING THURSDAY
FIRST THEY ANNOUNCE THE ENGINE, THEN THE GAMES - IT'S HAPPENING THURSDAY
FIRST THEY ANNOUNCE THE ENGINE, THEN THE GAMES - IT'S HAPPENING THURSDAY
FIRST THEY ANNOUNCE THE ENGINE, THEN THE GAMES - IT'S HAPPENING THURSDAY
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>>285568162
sheiiit

it's happening
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>>285567958
>you sonys

wut m8
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>>285568162
It probably isn't happening
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>>285561626
>Why aren't we talking about this?
But we have been nonstop since the fucking announcement.

I hate it when you faggots end a thread OP like this. Just because you're not on /v/ doesn't mean the rest of the anons are waiting for you to come back before they do anything there.
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>tf3 , new cs, and more importantly hl3 possible
>being this retarded
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>>285564763
all classes become unterofficizer
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>>285569284
>implying they aren't possible

anything's possible anon
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>>285568162
at best it'll be like... dota 2 on source 2. maybe some neat particle tests
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>>285569497
why wouldn't they at least have one game?
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>>285564782
source? (hehe)
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>>285569975
really?
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>>285570084
I am really asking if you can verify that gabe said that yes
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If there was going to be a TF3 then it should be in a totally different style and gameplay. Something like they had in TF2: Brotherhood of Arms. Highly unlikely though.
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>>285569975
No, source 2
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>>285561626
Will you fucking shut the fuck up about it already? God fucking nigger damnit, you stupid wops bring nothing new to the table with these threads that just rehash shit we already talked about.

"Oh fuck, news about Source 2 that dropped close to a day ago hasn't been mulled over on /v/ yet."

Get you small head out of your probably loose asshole.
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>>285561626
what a bunch of jokas
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>>285570535
>wops

are you avvin a giggle m8?
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>>285570535
how about you shut the fuck up and stop bitching like a little girl
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>>285570660
Are you not a wop? Are you some dutch faggot who shitposts on /v/ from wherever you are plugging up the retard-engineered dike?
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>>285569497
Why wouldn't Valve
Show off a brand new game to show off its engine. I get DOTA 2
But its originally not even their original IP. Why wouldn't they want to show off one of THEIR games on THEIR engine. Get people excited. But. Valve doesn't make games. Just updates their engines so that their free to play looks nicer.
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>>285561626
shitty engine surpassed even by unity, why we should talk about it
hl3 will be a blunder
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>>285571352
deal with it faggot
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>>285571352
They want to methodically get steam users used to the idea that the only games they will actively participate in the development of are those which have an obvious, long term potential for monstrous cash flow. HL3 would be a fucking blockbuster, no doubt! But why spend money and time on that one-timer dough getter when you have things like tf2, csgo, and dota 2 that can keep a constant, heavy flow of cash coming in for YEARS due to both addictive and closed economic systems and the available of the eventual legacy software to a more advanced base of computer tech as the years progress,?
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>>285571559
>hl3 will be a blunder somebody's buttmad
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>>285571813
The last sentence was show how stupid it is to assume DOTA is the grand new thing to show off its engine.
A free to play remastered won't be the game to launch a new engine retard
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>>285572070
Somebody is hopeful HL3 is even released. Go to church more, kike.
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>>285563734
wat
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>>285571559
Source 2 confirmed to include time travel
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>>285572182
Sry, Jews don't go to church do they?
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It's not that big of a deal, was anyone really surprised?

Would have been nice to have seen some actual games. The PC needs them.
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>>285571559
unity is a fucking joke
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>>285561913
Epic has been selling engines without games since the early 2000s. And raking in money in the tens of millions every year.

We live in 2015, making an engine doesn't mean you're making a game on it.
That's why they announced it on GDC, they want other people to make games on their engine.
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>>285572601
Thank you very much.
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>>285572601
I wonder if Source 2 is better than Unreal 4.
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>>285561913
they already did announce it with NO games stupid
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>>285572601
Gaben said that VALVe will only announce Source2 when they have a game ready to come out with it.
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>>285572601
>what is unreal tournament
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>>285573512
When? Where?
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>>285572601

but they aren't valve though
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>>285573512
I want to believe

2015 will be the year

right guys?
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>>285561626
>HL3

Who cares. Dota 2.5 is much more interesting.
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>>285573525
Unreal Engine 4 is already at version 4.7. It's been out for more than an year. Actually might be pushing two years now.

So Unreal Tournament is a game made - mainly by the community might I add - 2 years after the engine was released.

>>285573669
Yeah. They've actually made their money with making engines which is at least a bit close to game dev. Valve hasn't touched a game in years.
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>>285573525
What is "indoctrination, via community involvement and its status as a free game, to the idea that their approach to game making is anything that will advertise the engine and not games as products"?
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>>285561626
>>tf3 , new cs, and more importantly hl3 possible
no, it means "do it yourself, faggots".
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>>285573770
2 years, actually, a couple days if you count them managing those games.
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>>285573896
no it means coming soon retard
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>>285561626
Steam is for faggots anyways
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>>285574479
>coming soon
And by soon you mean by 2020 or beyond right?
They don't have a complete engine yet, they would've released it after the announcement if they did.
They lost the ability to make AAA games in house years ago, Portal 2 is the closest they've come to that and even on release it felt dated. Heck the first Portal was basically an indie game, it just so happens the 5 people that made it were Valve employes.

Gaben can't just a gesture with his ham slabs and magic a game into existence through the power of grease.
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>>285561789
because we are a bunch of fat faggots who play anime waifu games
live in moms basement
and have never touched a pussy
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>>285569020
>>285569181
>>285569497
>>285569807
>>285571352

Just stop. They aren't announcing any fucking games
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>>285575563
Right? A video game company making video games, that's absolutely preposterous.
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>>285575703

Why would they do something like that?
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>>285575347
don't play with me emotions anon
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>>285561626

>tf3 , new cs, and more importantly hl3 possible

Why did you list exactly the three games with the least possibility of a sequel?

>tf3
Why? TF2 still looks good and runs on toasters. The community is still highly active and it generates tons of money with all the content it offers. A new game won't have that amount of content and therefore won't generate even a fracture of that money in the first few years. A new TF game will only be viable when the mechanics and look of TF2 aged to far, which won't happen any time soon since it's artstyle is basically timeless.

>CS

CS:GO just picked up steam last year and is generating a ton of money through drops. Why would they split the community again with releasing a new CS so soon? They'll milk CS:GO for a few more years.

>HL3
Yeah, I wish. The only possibility for this is to showcase what Source 2 is capable of, which could easily be done in L4D3 and Portal3.

I know that some Half-Life hints where found during the past years, but I just don't see it happening. Source 2 is all about user created content. I don't see how a single player game fits into this concept. Well, aside from mods, but why create a mod of a game if you have access to the whole engine for free?
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>>285576734
Do you even think before you type?
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>>285561626
So they announced nothing?
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>>285575703
Valve is a lot of things.
And a game studio hasn't been in the top 5 for years now.

But just to put it into perspective lets look at their job postings and I'll mark the non gaming related jobs so you can put into perspective how much (more like how little) of a game dev company they are now.

It's typically worse than that but I guess they might be starting a game project for once.

>>285576734
>which won't happen any time soon since it's artstyle is basically timeless.

Actually TF2 has been waning in the recent 24 months with a significant hit to the competitive community, whole teams dropping of the leagues - which is no surprise considering the best award UGC could muster was 100$ per team member for the winners of plat.

Lots of popular TF2 players were invited to Blizzcon and most of the little they've said about Overwatch since they're still under embargo is - in short - Overwatch has everything need to take a good chunk out of TF2 pubshits and 100% of the comp players because Blizzard actually supplies money for esport.
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>>285561626

people got buttmad that valve didnt suck their dicks yesterday so theyre shunning any discussion on the topic

I do believe we're seeing the next chapter for valve, they have an infrustructer that allows for a steady revenue gain throughout their years and now with source 2 and their HMD we're gonna see them make more games that build on that stream
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>>285561626
What games would you get hype for?
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>>285577656
>competitive community

Which was never big to begin with.

>Overwatch

You've got a point there, but we'll have to see if there will be a competitive scene around overwatch or if it will just be a casual game like TF2 is.

>>285576934
Thanks for your opinion. Do you have anything of worth to contribute?
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>>285577979
Yes if you think Valve won't be announcing games this Thursday you're retarded and wrong.
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>>285577979
As I already said Blizzard got a bunch of TF2 comp players as a focus group. Which means they want to make it an esport. Which makes sense, the game is TF2 meets LoL, and the only reason TF2 never became big in competitive gaming is because Valve could never sell it as such when it came out.
But times have changed, a cutesy looking game on a competition with thousands of dollars in awards is normal now. Look at Heartsotne. Look at DOTA and LoL.

>>285578607
K, bro. When they don't and you cry like a little bitch for the third time this week I'll give you pat on the shoulder and whisper sweet nothings into your year.
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>>285578860
Do you really think Overwatch will be big?
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>>285578607
Wow, now I see your point. Really good argument you got there. They absolutely have to announce a game during a conference for the press, where only press is allowed, instead of going big and announcing it during E3 which has multiple times the viewerbase of GDC.

>a bunch of TF2 comp players as a focus group

I don't know man. It's rather that competitive players have a better understanding of gameplay mechanics than some normies and can get faster into a new game and point out potential flaws. I can see blizzard try and make a competitive esport out of Overwatch, tough.

>>285579818
Blizzard has a track record in the past 10+ years of creating games with a big multiplayer (and competitive) focus. It won't be as big as current mobas, but it will be big.
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>>285580034
forgot to quote to >>285578860 after the first paragraph
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Why valve didn't show a video or anything showcasing what source 2 can do? Talk about no confidence in your product.
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>>285580262
They're showing that off tomorrow.
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>>285580262
Tomorrow anon
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>>285579818
I think it has the potential to be big in this drought of an year for PC gaming yes.
If Blizzard is smart they can snatch all kinds of player bases with this game, both from fps and moba titles which have become stale recently.
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>>285561626
>HL3

I have bad news for you, anon.
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>>285580262
I still would think they would show something new

I don't see why they wouldn't
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>Still wanting Half life 3

Why bother? Its been hyped to death and wont in any ways be as "amazing" as hl2 was. Plus you can be sure as hell it will have some form of micro transaction and multiplayer involved that will make it trash.

A L4d3 would be nice however.
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>>285572601
>START LEARNING UNREAL ENGINE 4
>SUDDENLY SOURCE 2 A WEEK LATER

FUCK
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>>285581126
sorry anon , UE4 is still a good engine
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>>285581023
I would be content with a HL3 in the source engine just like HL2:Ep2. It doesn't have to be amazing for me to want and play it.
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>>285581126
>learning unreal engine 4
>2 weeks

>implying you've learned anything of value in this short amount of time

I've wasted a lot more time for my degree on useless shit than 2 weeks.
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>>285581126
Keep up with Unreal it's a great engine.
Source has a track record for user unfriendliness. And it virtually has no community or tutorials right now.

If it ever gets up to par with Unreal the knowledge should serve you well because most game engines are comparable - for instance both Source and UE4 have prebaked lighting, both use BSPs, both handle static meshes the same way. The main difference is UE has much more substantial material tools than most other engines - which is what makes it the best out right now.
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>>285581787
Oh, I totally know that, I'm just fucking around with animations and scene lighting.

I'm a complete amateur with mild C++ experience, so I'm just doing some stuff.
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*Raises paw*
Umm...so what are the actual benefits of porting their older titles to Source 2, will they look better or have better framerates or what?
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>>285582325
>raises paw

No.
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>>285561626

>tf3

lol what does it feel like to be 13 years old, they might upgrade tf2 but they arent going to have tf3 lol, what would be the point when f2p tf2 still exists.

Thats like saying they are going to make dota 3

what would be the point?
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>>285582325
Get the fuck out of /v/ newfag

this is neo-/v/ everyone......
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>>285582409
because it's a next gen upgrade? Why wouldn't they make TF3
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>>285582478
>>285582393
these nignogs
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>>285573637
check the wikipedia article for source engines, it's there. The quote has been around but im too lazy to google for it.
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>>285582629
>I-I swear the sauce exists, I just c-can't find it..!
Fuck off
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>>285563035
Source 2 is the third source engine.
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>>285561626

Because Valve isn't interested in making video games anymore
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>>285582325
If they port it to a more current engine they could potentially do what Riot does to LoL, slowly add more functionality and better visuals.

I don't see why they'd bother though, it'll take lots of time and they might as well make the game from scratch at that point.
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>>285566802
>Ethernet only
Surely if you have to stream to your TV there's a high chance it is in your living room and only has access to wifi, PStv has wifi and works absolutely fine, so it can't be a latency excuse
>Have to buy the shitty Steam controller to work
it's trash
but no, valvedrones will eat it up
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>>285566747
This.


The mapping community for custom maps is dead in the water.
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Convince me why I should care about Source 2 when Valve hasn't made a good game in years and Half Life 3 is vaporware.
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>>285582974

>PSTV has wifi and works fine

The Vita/PSTV's streaming is notoriously awful
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>>285580262
Mañana, anon
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>>285583087
A free engine to work with that is potentially better than the ones that are available right now.
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>>285582737
>Strawmanning this hard

Kill yourself.
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>>285573512
>>285573637
>>285582629
>>285582737

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-12-gabe-newell-confirms-valve-working-on-source-2

srsly, its just one google search
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>>285564380
only if they go back to how dod played and not dod:s
also dod_charlie
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>>285583387
>potentially better than the ones that are available right now.
No. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, it's not better than UE and that's a fact.
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>>285584329
You don't know that because we know nothing about it yet. UE3 was honestly pretty shitty. From what I've used of UE4 though it seems better but I would still rather use/play games on another engine. Pretty much any other engine.
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@geoffkeighley

>Yes, one of the Steam VR experiences is a short new demo set in Aperture Science. It's incredible.

GUYS
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>>285584835
Well your opinion is shit man.
UE4 is objectively the best game engine out now. Which automatically makes it the best game engine to ever exist.

Could you make a better one? No? Then shut the fuck up. Otherwise go make one.
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>>285584985
I hope we get a video. Also I hope Valve doesn't make any of their games require VR. I just want to be able to play a game without having to buy $500 worth of extra equipment to do it.
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>>285585231
>@geoffkeighley

C O N F I R M E D
>C O N F I R M E D
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>>285585231
>"so hl3 was announced?!"
Fucking Dave, get your games right.
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>>285585143
>UE4 is objectively the best game engine out now
What other engines have you used to compare? I'm not saying UE4 is bad, but what I've used of UE3 (mostly as a person playing games made on it) really doesn't make me optimistic that UE4 will be any better once games start being made on it.

Also the way that it handles lighting seems kind of strange, but maybe it's just me not really having worked with too many game engines as a "developer".
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>>285585518
>>285585231

CALL THE PRESSES
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HOLY SHEET OPEN THE FUCKING STEAM
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>>285585491
>>285585503
sorry i deleted it.

FUCKING THIS GUYS
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>>285585886
oh there actaully is something this time
http://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamos_sale
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>>285585951
Alright, so they made a demo using pre-existing assets from portal 2. Is there any confirmation that its in the Source 2 engine or is it just what is is, a tech demo?
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>>285561626
fucking confirmed
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>>285585951
people still take this asshole seriously? what a horrible world we live in. i mean, i suppose steamVR is the greatest thing ever, but i wouldn't take this guy's word for it.
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>>285583974
Source never quite had the same feel did it.

I also missed Charlie... dat FG42.
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>>285586221
>sale
>many items have regular price
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>>285586584
he's great, loves videogames and hates what became of industry
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>>285586310
Valve never "confirms" anything. When they announce shit, it means the shit has been in development for years and it's close to finished. Steam OS wasn't announced until some games were ported, Valve controller was announced when a prototype was done, Source 2 wasn't announced until it was almost done, and nobody knew about Steam Link.

Also they do not confirm whether games like HL3 are in development or they abandoned them, they just avoid the questions and refuse to answer.
Valve keeps their stuff in secret pretty well.
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>tf3 , new cs, and (...) hl3 possible

Because it's fucking nothing.

Why should Valve even "make" TF3? There's no incentive for them to release another Team Fortress since TF2's hats bring them ridiculous amounts of money. It's the same reason for Counter-Strike. There's no need for them to make another because Steam Workshop allows them to make even more money off of CS than they ever did before.

Also, there's no reason for them to ever release HL3 because they're smart enough to know that there's no possible way that anything they put out could live up to the hype expected for the game.

At best, Source 2 will just be something Valve licenses.
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>>285564824
An RTS made out of DotA 2? Talk about going full circle.
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>>285586939
This kind of speculation isn't good for the heart. This just assumes that VALVe used Source 2 or Portal2:ep1 in a Vive tech demo. We should only go on the facts and not make rash assumptions just because you really want to believe. Besides, a booth is no place for revealing something of this magnitude.
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>>285584985
It's probably just Portal 2 ported onto Source 2
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>>285585560
>really doesn't make me optimistic that UE4 will be any better once games start being made on it.

There's around 100 games made in UT3. You don't like any of them?
Bioshock? Lost Planet? Devil may cry? Xcom? Dishonored? Mass Effect? Tribes Ascend? The Batman Arkham games? Borderlands?
The new Mortal Kombat game?

None of them?

UE handles lighting the same way Source and most other engines handle lighting. It bakes it into the texture with a shadow map. It can do real time lighting as well but that's too expensive for most PCs. That's the reason you can see the shadows jump to the next hour in Skyrim for instance, the game has 24 prebaked shadow maps for the whole map and it loads a new one every hour - which proves that's not really a problem with UE it's a problem with most people playing on shit PCs.

Anyway UE3 is a pretty old engine now, it's almost as old as the Source engine, UE4 looks much better. It looked great even an year ago (screen shot is from a very old build), it looks stunning now.
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>>285561626
Because you've been able to play dota2 in source 2 at least from last summer?

Nobody talks about it because they still haven't exactly shown what can be done with it.

The only thing source 2 enable in dota 2 is better particles and that's it
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>>285588496
>Audience Level: Advanced
Yeah tomorrow they'll show off tech demos to all the people they want to shill their new engine to.
They might even have a plugin for Epic to integrate into their engine for non Nvidia physics, which is I suspect why the Epic guy is there to begin with - otherwise the Nvidia centric Epic would've steered clear off that presentation.
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>tf3
>new cs
You are just fucking retarded and you probably need help to piss
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>>285587842
Exactly, it's just speculation. Some heavy based speculation (L4D2 running on 64 bit engine on the rubikon conference for example) but it's not as retarded as adding and substracting numbers until you get a 3.
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Source 2 was leaked like a year ago and it looked like shit.
Hl3 is never happening, stop asking for it.
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>Source 2
>the 3rd engine valves made
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>>285588496
>glnext
Khronos is really shooting their dick off with this one.
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>>285582325
>*Raises paw*
*holds up spork*
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>>285582936
>slowly add more functionality and better visuals
They've been doing that for years anon.
The problem is it's a fundamentally shitty looking engine and even after intensive visual upgrading it still looks like shit, just like lol.
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>>285588987
>Exactly, it's just speculation. Some heavy based speculation (L4D2 running on 64 bit engine on the rubikon conference for example) but it's not as retarded as adding and substracting numbers until you get a 3.

There are 35 words in that post

>>285588987
has 7 as the end number

35 / 7 = 5

There are two sentences in your post

5 - 2 = 3

HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED !!!!!

am i doing it right?
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>>285582325
>*Raises paw*
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>thinking valve will make a new counter strike

what the fuck do you think would happen with all the people with expensive in-game shit in csgo? you think they would just ditch the cow with infinite milk to go and try to make another one?
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>>285564380
DOD:S is literally perfect. I don't want to see anything changed about my love.
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Don't care about HL3, I just want my dear Portal 3 !
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>>285589924
Yes
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>>285589924
>you think they would just ditch the cow with infinite milk to go and try to make another one?
You don't seem to understand how stupid valvedrones are anon.
Hell they could offer a CS:GO hat for buying CS:GO2 and it would sell 10 million copies in preorders alone.
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>>285561626
Source 2 has been in the works since 2012, just because they formally announced it doesn't mean we should all start going crazy.
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>>285590214
see
>>285585951
>>285573512
>>285583830
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>>285582325
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>>285590141
I don't think it would, the entire professional scene would not support it for atleast 1 year until they adjusted/ported over and the pro scene is actually keeping the game afloat along with the skins
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>>285590335
He said that 4 years ago. That's a long time.
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>earlier this week

Wasn't their GDC platform fucking yesterday?
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>>285590476
Again anon, the proscene for cs is all valvedrones, even if it took a whole fucking year they'd still migrate over eventually, as they always have done, even if the game is worse, because that's how it's always been
1.6>source>go
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>People think HL3 will come out with Source2

Nah, that shit is being saved for Source3

See you all in 2035
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>>285561626
Half Life 3 will happen when it happens. Frankly, I'm more excited about the fact that Source 2 is FREE FOR EVERYONE HOLY SHIT.

With that and Unreal 4 becoming free, indie devs will hopefully be seriously stepping up their game very soon.
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>>285582974
>PStv has wifi and works absolutely fine

It doesn't work in the slightest.

Not one bit.
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HL3 won't come out until valve starts losing business in droves and needs to throw together something to get back it's developer cred.
So if you want hl3 what you're really waiting for is something to kill steam.
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>>285592280
Their business has nothing to do with them being a developer.
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>ethernet port
What the fuck were they thinking.
Who the fuck is going to run Ethernet cable through their entire house just to get it to the tv?
Cheap pieces of shit just install a dualband wifi card in it.
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>>285592636
Their business survives on their developer cred, which is why trash games like csgo, tf2 and dota make so much money for valve.
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>>285592930
>Their business survives on their developer cred
No it survives on them having a good marketplace.
Most people using Steam now don't even know Valve used to make games.
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>>285581870
It also has fucking prop scaling.
I swear to god switching from UE3 to Source was so fucking painful when I realized there was no prop scaling.
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>>285593064
They don't need to know shit, they get suckered into valves f2p trash and casual-tier competitive games for scrubs and they see the valve logo every time they start them up.
MOST of valve's users are playing those 3 games, and probably g-mod.
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>>285593249
>retards still believe people use steam for TF2 and Dota

You should go look at those stats, those 3 games don't represent more than a sixth of the playerbase.
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>>285588204
It's not, it's a unique one never before seen.

http://www.stuff.tv/htc/vive/review
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Speaking of VR, the project designer of Microsoft's Hololens got killed in a hit and run.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/suspected-drunk-driver-court-after-allegedly-causi
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>>285593928
If it's a title to sell Vive with it won't be Half Life. It'll be an ultra casual title for all ages and genders. So Portal 3 makes the most sense.
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>>285593780
>top 2 are dota and cs:go
>of the top 5, 3 are valve titels
>of the top 10, 5 are source titles
>all 10 of the top 10 are steam exclusive
Thanks for bringing up the stats fuckface.
CS:GO and dota 2 alone manage to make up 1/10th of all the "concurent users" and how many of those do you think are in-game right now? I wouldn't even say 1/5th of them.
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>>285564553
Where he say this?
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>>285561871
But I want to tip my hats...
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>>285594805
Now go look at the most bought games on console.
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>>285589107
What do you think half-life runs on?
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>>285592778
>ethernet port
>What the fuck were they thinking.
One of steambox's features is becoming a network bridge for consoles and HTPCs.
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>>285594805
>Skyrim
>Steam exclusive
Keep trying.
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>>285594805
Actually that is exactly what I said a 6th of the playerbase at most retard. And less than a million ROUNDS UP TO LESS THAN A SIXTH OR A SEVENTH EVEN. Fucking shill.
Now go jack off to your dreams of Half Life fucking manchild.

>still wants to play linear single player shit in 2015
Fucking pathetic. Get on with the times.
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>>285595571
Go install a legitimate box copy of skyrim anon.
You can't do it without steam.
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>>285568162
They are going to show these games running on Vulkan faglord

The only thing that MAY BE SOMETHING is that "unknown app".

But for all we know that was just the demo they made for their VR thing.
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>>285595710
Player-base implies people playing shit.
This shit makes up 90% of the playerbase.
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>>285588431
>>That's the reason you can see the shadows jump to the next hour in Skyrim for instance

they do that instead of having constantly moving shadows to minimize flickering

there arent "24 pre baked shadow maps"
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>>285588803
DOTA 2 hasn't been ported yet.
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>half-life franchise not on sale
HL3 unconfirmed
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>>285588431
> the game has 24 prebaked shadow maps for the whole map and it loads a new one every hour
Anon I am going to say this as rhetorically as possible.
Are you actually fucking retarded?
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>>285588431
It's not that I don't like the games (though I would probably say I only like 10% or so of them, but that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm saying), it's that they seem to suffer from being on UE3. I don't know if this is an issue with the engine or an issue with the devs though. They all feel the same and generally have the same lack of environmental interaction. They seem to stutter when they need to load/stream new things. The whole texture streaming issue too.

And I'll have to experiment with the lighting in UE4 but another issue, similar to the static environments I mentioned above, is that so many UE3 games just lack dynamic lighting and shadows. Other engines can get away with quite a bit of dynamic lighting and shadowing but a lot of UE3 game seem to have an issue with using dynamic lighting and shadows outside of stuff that's expected, like that most characters and objects have a shadow. I don't know if this is an issue with the engine or because most games are developed for consoles though.

I just don't see the point in baked shadows and lighting most of the time. It seems like having the engine subsist on mostly baked lighting and shadows (even if it's possible to do dynamic to some degree, I'm not sure how well the engine is optimized to do it) basically invites devs making games that seems dead essentially. Where everything just is and there's no way to change it.
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>>285589034
An engine can't look like shit. Engines obviously have limitations but 99% of how a game looks is based on the devs and not what engine the game runs on.
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>>285562078
you haven't been following the leaks at all anon? not the jira leak? not the steamdb leak? not the source 2 remnants in d2 workshop that confirm games?
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>>285561913
Sony seems to get away with that just fine
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>tfw we will never have a combination the teamplay of SWAT 4 and the mechanics of CS

CS:GO is too big right now to warrant a new CS game
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so how are Source 2 physics?
the characters still move like dummies
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>>285568162
I don't even care if they show a game, I just wanna see the engine in action.
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>>285589683
Yes
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>>285595713
>Still thinking Skyrim is only avaliable on steam
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>>285597217
We don't know. We do know that Valve is making their own physics engine rather than using Havok or any other physics engine.
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>>285596458
It's not a problem with UE. Unreal has been capable of fully dynamic lighting with bounced light, GI, and all the jazz for years.

https://vimeo.com/109240001

The real problem is most people have shit PCs. And games are made for the lowest common denominator. Prebaked lighting wastes a bit of video memory but fully dynamic lighting that looks as good murders subpar video cards.
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>>285599515
Just because it supports it doesn't mean it's optimized for it though. What kind of machine would I be looking at if I wanted to make a game with fully dynamic lighting on UE4? Obviously it depends on how intensive other parts of the game are and how many lights I end up using but say I have 2 baked lights. What kind of hit would I get on a decent GPU if I replaced one of those baked lights with a dynamic one?
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