What the fuck happened to Mighty No. 9?
>>285518070
SJWs
>>285518070
Your precious Inafune was never a valuable asset in Capcom yet /v/ still sucks his dick for whatever reason.
>>285518070
They get the money and ran, basically.
>>285518070
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/09/25/hundred-people-worked-monster-hunter-4/
>DmC has roughly 90 devs
>RE6 has over 600 devs
>MH4 has a few hundred devs
>>285518070
4 mil is low budget for a game like that.
>>285518070
You posted a low-res screenshot. It isn't in motion, and it doesn't reflect the enjoyment factor of the full game. Don't be fucking stupid.
Guess how much that "low budget game" cost OP.
I'll wait.
>Still having this manchild approach to game budgets in 2015
My 8 year old son has a better sense of money.
>>285518070
4 million dollars is low budget and has been said like the end of PS2 era. Where have you been?
>>285519210
>the screenshot isn't in motion
Yeah, no shit. It's a screenshot. But still, this game does not look fun no matter how you view it
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010-11-22-3ds-game-development-will-cost-USD600k-USD1-8m-article
My guess for Strider 2014's budget?: 4+ million dollars :^)
>>285518070
2D costs too much so it became 3D. Say goodbye to your childhood.
Kamiya warned you.
>>285519934
>2D costs too much so it became 3D.
But...then why are 99% of indie games 2D
>>285519210
this is true for all screen shots
>>285518070
It's the next Foodfight
>>285520109
indie retro pixel vs. rayman legends
>>285520109
Because the creators themselves draw them and are shit at it. To hire a team that is actually good at 2D graphics and have them create a full game is much more expensive than just modeling it in 3D because they have to draw every single frame of animation, which is ridiculously expensive and time consuming, while 3D you make the model and animating it is not drawing it in different positions but merely posing it in different positions.
>>285519210
>the enjoyment factor
>>285519258
>having a kid
You have no sense of money either
>>285519970
More like he's just an artist. He didn't even program the games.
>>285518070
Well you have to pay your devs...and the longer it takes the more you pay...
But seriously $4M? What are they doing with the extra dough?
>>285520626
4M is not unreasonable for a 3 year long dev cycle of something like MN9. People on /v/ just have no concept of how expensive game development is. This isn't the 90s anymore when you could make a full retail game for 300k by throwing 4 people who made a decent salary in a room for a year with some corporate expenses on top.
>>285521157
Compare the level of presentation of Mighty No. 9 to that of Pillars of Etenity, or hell any million dollar Kickstarter.
As much as I hate Broken Age even that has better visuals than Mighty.
Internet Aristocrat was right.
Money well spent. HIgh production values and it shows.
Here is the latest screen grab of the current build.
>>285519312
There's only one problem with these type of charts when you don't actually put numbers on the y-axis. You make things seem worse than they actually are because you don't want to admit you're bigger fuck ups that you are.
>>285521535
That's a dev incompetence thing really, not a cost thing. Nothing that can be done about it. Western devs at the mid- to low-end are much better at graphics than the Japanese with some exceptions like Vanillaware.
>>285522074
Except sometimes they do put the numbers. The curve is still skyrocketing up no matter how you spin it.
>>285518791
>Your precious Inafune was never a valuable asset in Capcom yet /v/ still sucks his dick for whatever reason.
I guess because people want their Mega Man fill.
>>285522680
then again most of that budget was spent on marketing alone
>>285521678
If they wanted graphics like that they'd have to hire Vanillaware. I don't think anyone else does HD spritework that well.
>>285522832
Factor 5 is a dev, not a pub. These numbers are before marketing. It goes towards paying the # of staff members you see on the left side of that chart.
>>285518070
It boggles my mind that Skullgirls took a fraction of the price of MN9 did to developed.
Where did Inafune put all of that miney
>>285522680
What >>285522832 says is also true, since movies do this shit too so they can get tax write-offs but since game developers haven't been around as long, they kind of suck at it. And marketing is usually either included or separate from the whole budget for movies so you can see if the movie made the original budget back. Games never indicate if that's including marketing or not.
>>285523008
Don't forget the day to day expenses of just keeping the studio up and running too
>>285519074
Mh is mostly reused assets so I can't really say I'm amazed by that number.
>>285519312
>source: this totally cool graph i did not pull out of my ass. Whaddya mean muh sources? I'm my source. References? Me you faggot, ME.
>>285527025
You're really retarded if you question that budgets are skyrocketing. And it was fucking made for a presentation by the lead HW designer of the PS4.
FOUR MILLION US DOLLARS
Plus DLC
>>285519210
>the enjoyment factor
Oh boy!
>>285518070
4 million is low budget.
>>285522694
There is over fifty fucking Mega Man games that have been released, there is enough out there for people to get their fill.
Based Gunvolt sequel is confirmed, no fucks given for Mighty 9.
Also new update this Thurdsay, hell yeah.
>>285527817
not really
>>285521678
>Here is the latest screen grab of the current build.
Haha. Concept art is not a "screen grab" you shill. This was posted eons ago.
I don't know why MN9 is 2.5, 2.5d is fucking horrible to look at and fucks with your eyes they should have went hand drawn art like fucking Dragons Crown and the original concept art not this 2.5d ugly shit.
>>285528583
Do you understand that basically only Vanillaware knows how to make something that looks like Dragon's Crown? They can't pop the talent out of thin air. They would at least need to contact Vanillaware and pay them for training and use of their tools
>>285518070
Look at how many platforms Mighty No.9 is being ported to.
![1369298524-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/A6TRHCL.jpg "1369298524-1[1].jpg")
>>285528914
>ONE MILLION USD
>>285518070
to be fair, it isn't finished yet
>>285529220
kek
Just in pre-beta right?
>>285528914
>Only people on the planet who can draw are vanillaware
Dude there has to be some people out of work in japan that can draw decent enough to get MN9 off the 2.5d retard train.
A lot of old snes games had hand drawn art shit those people are probably out of work why not give them a job.
4 million is probably a smaller budget then what strider had.
If not then they should be pretty close. People are whiny as fuck.
>Inafking
There's your problem.
I stopped giving a shit when I heard this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPO5eLe0gJI
It's baffling that this is the lady that composed for the original Mega Man. I guess she just has two much freedom outside of the NES.
>>285520157
> implying you wouldn't play foodfight
>>285527817
>4 million is low budget.
fuck off tim
>in game screenshot vs promotional screenshot
you guys are fucking jews, i swear
i also have a hard time believing that strider remake cost less than 5 million to make
>>285527994
I still need to finish that. Glad to hear it sold decent enough for a sequel though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEzron4AnOE
>>285528034
have you made a game before with a team of devs?
how much did it cost you?
was the product successful?
oh, cool
>3 million budget
>>285529192
vanillaware is fucking amazing
>>285529192
Good devs can do amazing things with a good budget. Comcept are not necessarily good devs.
>>285529483
Those people probably left the industry long ago or got into some other positions like management of dev teams, etc, or they learned 3D software and now no longer use their 2D skills. There are probably some out there though but finding them may be an issue.
>>285530689
In general, hand drawn stuff is considered niche, super expensive, and time consuming. So talent in that department is limited to begin with.
>>285531067
Truly this is one of the worst possible worldlines
So, was the decision to use 3D a cost-saving measure or just a misguided creative direction? I think everyone backed expecting that 2D concept art to be proof of concept for what it would actually look like.
>Inafune cocksuckers getting wrecked hard
What a glorious day.
>>285529560
It's amazing how much a game like Shovel Knight shits all over this in the sound department. I have no idea why Virt wasn't the go-to soundtrack guy for a project like this.
>>285531262
>I think everyone backed expecting that 2D concept art to be proof of concept for what it would actually look like.
Only idiots did. I was in the original threads saying that it definitely wouldn't look like that for obvious reasons.
>>285518070
>he thinks 4 million dollars is high budget
>>285518703
Please, at worst you can blame them for the character design.
The rest is on the team.
>>285531628
It's fair to assume that most laymen aren't really intimately familiar with development processes or Inafune's work. Accordingly, it's not really that unreasonable for people to expect what they see to be what they get, at least in a loose sense.
>>285531813
That's what makes them idiots. I wish video games had a tendency to look like their concept art. I really do. That rarely happens though.
>>285521678
I know it's just concept art but for a game that's supposed to be a spiritual successor to classic 2D Megaman games I really expected the game to actually look kinda like this. I mean shit, Skullgirls and that new Shantae game are doing it just fine and I don't think they rake in as much kickstarter money as Mighty Number 9 has.
>>285522870
Wouldn't need to be spritework, look at Rayman Origins.
>>285531959
When I say they expected it to look like the concept art, I don't mean the quality, I just mean generally being a 2D game with parallax backgrounds.
>>285529560
I think they need a better sound board, or whatever produces sound.
>>285531719
Remember, budget only pays people to make the game. It's not a guarantee of a certain level of graphical quality.
>>285531768
and even that is a huuuge stretch
>>285518070
It was never going to throw any more money into graphics than the initial budget shown.
Everything outside of the initial goal will be used for the different benchmarks and then anything leftover will be pocketed.
You were never going to get a good looking game no matter how much money people throw at it.
>>285531067
Agreed. Plus a lot of hand drawn art/animation tends to be really uneven in quality throughout a game, and you see a lot of assets being repeated too often for longer games. Games like The Banner Saga can quickly go from feeling like a Disney film to feeling like a cheap flash game in a matter of seconds.
I forgot the fucking word for it, but basically it can be really easy to see where and when the developers put a lot of effort into the game.
the cost of marketing really really adds up
he started a 2nd kick starter for a 3dcg anime
no MN9 would never take off with normies without it
no word of mouth would never let it take off
marketing is expensive
money is good and all but talent matters too
if you gave me 4 million dollars i would make a shit game
>>285533145
if you gave me 4 million dollars i would
>>285531592
Didn't the same woman compose a few songs for Shovel Knight?
Careful. The janitors are on a rampage tonight and are getting especially butthurt about anything gender related
>>285520393
I'm currenly working on a 2d game that is not "retropixelgraphicslol" and this is true.
Also, finding a good 2d animator is harder than it seems. People have forgotten traditional animation
Idiots focused on Dina being a community manager more than actually criticizing the game. Dina is shit though but she's pretty much no different than any other shitty forum moderator making the whole shitstorm pointless.
>>285533573
>People have forgotten traditional animation
This quick? Holy shit, it's only been like 20 years since most games were 2D
>>285533338
if you gave me 4 million dollars i
>>285532823
>anime girl reaction image
>can't greentext
please leave
>>285534016
Yes, blame Flash and 3D.
I has to personally teach our animators (we're a small team) how to make sequential animation, frame by frame, and not rely in programatic streching, rotation, interpolation and that shit.
Just hand-made keyframes and inbetweeners, like it was not so long ago
>>285534498
* I had to, fucking phone
>>285519312
>no label on "y" axis
Bullshit graph
>>285534816
Look who is standing in front of the graph =)
>>285531768
>>285532393
I think it more refers to how the SJW in question made many folks pull money out of the project hurting it a whole lot.
