>Kiefer was probably charging too much by the line (just look how they left him silent in the Raiden mission, for example)
>Konami felt too proud to being back Hayter
>Most likely no codec like in the older games, just like in ground Zeroes
>Less exposition in a fucking Metal Gear game
>Esplains why they're using Robin Atkin Downes (a cheaper voice actor) for most of the dialogue in game
We've already seen this first hand with the Afghanistan mission where Snake doesn't say a word during the tutorial.
Speaking is the only way to convey anything dumbass.
I've been saying this for months now but nobody listened.
>abloo bloo hayterfag tears
I'M SILENT
I'M PASSIVE
>>285472769
pssssh
>>285472798
I noticed during my GZ playthroughs. I always found it strange that Miller had so much real time dialogue, while Snake had practically no dialogue.
During the whole GZ mission he basically said nothing.
More like I bet Keifer was drunk through 90% of the recording sessions and his dialogue was incoherent so Kojima just made BB silent
This was a given way before Kiefer was announced when kojima said he wanted it to be more like drive.
COME ON START TALKING BITCH!
>>285473138
Yeah but all the kojimadrones won't admit that hiring kiefer was a bad decision
>The game where we're supposed to get into BB's head as he descends into villainy
>he just stands there while everyone else does shit
Big twist confirmed to be that BB was innocent all along and Miller did all the evil shit and pinned the blame on him
Another MGS with no radio conversations
>>285472619
>b-but Kiefer
Are you forgetting that Snake has a Japanese VA too?
These past few months, all these retards were defending Kojima.
>hayter was always bad!
>his voice would sound too silly!
>kiefer is a better for the face capture
and now we're gonna get a terribly portrayed big boss.
>>285473830
>>hayter was always bad!
He was only good in MGS1 and maybe, MAYBE 4.
>>285473830
Use japanese voices
maybe there are really WORDS THAT KILL
>>285473138
>Snake had no dialogue
>THIS IS A SNEAKING MISSION, MAYBE I SHOULD SPEAK AND USE MY VOICE WHILE I'M SNEAKING AROUND
There's a reason for everything.
>no codec
>no real guns
>bland va for the role of snake
>regen health for 3rd person shooter one man army mission clears
>no real guns
I loved unlocking and upgrading rations and curry in peace walker. And I love guns. Fuck you kojima
pic related, I won't even be able to operate in Africa with an FAL
>>285473752
Kojima said himself that the English version is the real MGS. He even plays it in English.
>>285474027
That never stopped them in previous games.
>>285473898
Solid Snake's speech at the end of MGS2 are probably the best lines in the entire series.
>>285473924
The problem isn't the voice, the problem is that he never talks, so Bad Boss loses so much personality and charm.
y is this tech never portrayed in metal gear if they are so advanced that they have codec and shit?
>muh Kiefer ruining MGS
Fuck off already.
>>285473348
I like kojima. HIRING KIEFER WAS A BAD DECISION! I like the guy but fuck, if the game ends up like how OP said and his shit was behend it id fucking hate him.
Makes sense, Solidus is the protag anyways
>>285474776
It was confirmed by Kojima himself, I just put together the telltale signs. He confirmed it in the IGN video.
>>285474027
Yeah, lets use that logic for a SINGLE FUCKING GAME! Not only one game but the biggest Metal Gear yet. Lets just have protagonist not fucking talk.
>>285474027
Didn't stop anyone from not shutting the fuck up in all the other games
>>285474776
Kiefer's just a voice actor doing his job. He's not sabotaging the fucking game.
>>285474704
I guess I should explain the tech: it searches for freqs of cameras and you can watch what the camera is seeing and also you can rec it
It's not the only thing it does, but for game terms that should suffice
(I was amazed at the thing and woder why it isn't in the games)
>>285474340
He also said that so much of Snake comes from Akio Otsuka
It's the future of storytelling. Show don't tell, real human beings don't talk that much
>>285473650
Holy shit someone saved that drawing?
>>285475695
>real human beings don't talk that much
what the fuck kind of life do you live
>>285475695
itt: we post as if we were kiefer
>...
>>285475846
pudderinashell
>>285472619
He gets paid a lump sum, it's hayter that was 300 an hour
>>285473650
I assumed the radio conversations you get when using binoculars was the new way of doing codec. I mean if you use it on a boss or something I imagine you'll get a similar conversation as the codecs
>>285472619
>Esplains
Either finish the first grade or fuck back off to mexico.
Wasn't it confirmed at the outset that there would be less dialog in this game? I seem to recall it being a matter of fact for a while
>>285475846
SHESHURFIFE?
>>285476028
Yeah but there won't be actual conversations between BB and his contact, they'll just spout some bullshit SHOOT HIM TO KILL HIM and that'll be it. You can't even have conversations since the radio works in real time now without switching to different screen.
>>285472619
He didn't talk much in GZ because people would catch on to him and the medic having the same voice sooner.
>>285475846
...
Good, hearing about those long ass cutscenes in MGS4 stopped me from playing it.
>>285475846
wull make DIEMINS from thur ashuses
>>285475846
Ocelit raising hounds...hrungh...
>>285475846
keptyouwaitinghuh?
>>285472619
IS THIS WHAT YOU FUCKING WANT?!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zhucdA2J5E
>>285476461
>hrungh...
>>285475843
An excellent one. I envy him.
>>285476101
maybe he mean E-splains. electronically explains...I don't know/
>>285475846
a slice-uh merican pih on cummunist soiuhl
>>285476570
yeah
>>285476570
Yeah actually. The "huh?" and the like are a massive part of Snake.
>>285473898
>He was only good in MGS1 and maybe, MAYBE 4.
He was only good in MGS1.
>>285475846
Dank fight it
>snake enters the main hangar
>sirens going off and red lines flashing
>an giant elevator is lifting something from below
>it comes into full view
>snake glares in shock at what he seesthen kaz comes on the radio and says, "metal gear!? it can't be!"
Hayter was god awful in peace walker, and I can bet you money he would have pulled that shit again
Fuck that
>>285476570
still better than keifer
>>285477030
blame the director.
a mgs game that is not bogged down by shitty dialog, obnoxious codec calls every 3 seconds, and less obtrusive, poorly written story?
fucking GOAT
>>285475339
I know hes not sabotaging it or hate it, its just that it he doesnt seem to care for it either. Thats and if it honestly is Keifer just being too expensive thats making this happen, id be right pissed is all.
>>285477189
No, I blame Hayter. The dude might be stupid, but he's not deaf. He could tell it was shit the same as everyone else could
>>285474998
Yeah, I saw that much. I was just saying if Keifer being too expensive really is the cause behind it, it would be pretty fucked up.
>>285476726
>>285475846
Kepsheughwayetinghugggh?
>>285477592
>the same as everyone else could
And yet the director didn't say anything? the one thing the director is supposed to do.
>>285476570
Why not?
>>285477798
keptuw8tingHAHA!!!
>>285477403
So much this!
We could skip the codec calls nor could be skip the cutscenes!Oh wait
>>285477023
Fuck, I really hope this isn't the case.
>>285477665
We've known for a long-ass time that Big Boss wouldn't talk as much in this game. Keifer has nothing to do with it because it was Kojima's decision
>>285475954
300/hour ?
dunno, dosnt sound like much for a bigger name
probably around what keifer gets
2 weeks of 8h days recording, i doubt they had this much audio to record honestly, is still only 24k$
its literally pocket change
>>285477403
you don't pour mountain dew in a bottle and label it as coke you fucking faggot
>>285475846
IM BIG SLOSH ON AMERICAN PIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt0wg9jQEbI
>>285472619
Hayter asked for too much money
http://a.pomf.se/gsrisb.webm
http://a.pomf.se/gsrisb.webm
http://a.pomf.se/gsrisb.webm
>>285478224
8 hours a day? i doubt that
>>285478429
>the worst mustang.
>>285472619
Cassette tapes replace the codec and are way better since you can listen while playing. Cry more, faggot
He'll do more talking in the tapes like in PW, cuz no mocap for that.
Not like I really give a shit anyway.
>>285478460
yeah its probably closer to 5, but what ever, lets count 8, as i said even if it went up to 30k, its still piss money
>Wolves did $34k at the box office
>>285475846
Pls stop bullying me and my work.
BIG BOSS IS QUIET CONFIRMED
You know many people become quieter after suffering trauma/becoming depressed, right?
>>285478753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytNqYmctTt8
>Hating on Chief Kief
>>285472619
DON'T FORGET THEY OFFERED PEANUTS TO GET MAJOR ZERO IN THE GAME AND HE REFUSED
FUCK KOJIMA
FUCK QUEEFER
FUCK WHATEVER FAGLORD THEY GET TO VOICE ZERO
FUCK THIS GAME
we'll make diamonds from their asses
I don't get why people don't like Hayter anymore. I've played through the entire MGS series and I loved his voice acting. I can only hear Snake's voice whenever he speaks; it was incredible in MGS 1, 2, 3 and 4 (that old snake was really well done). Peace Walker was good, too. I mean it's fucking Snake's voice, how did you not grow used to it? He sounds good, and better than Kiefer who is just randomly interpreting "that soldier guy".
Ffs, this must be the first series where the devoted fanbase doesn't give a shit about the voice actor. It's like you people think Snake's voice has been shit for the past 15 years.
Anyway, Kiefer is charging too much and the game will suffer because of it. Good fucking job.
Anyone else planning to just play the game and decide what they think of it when they're finished?
>>285472619
Or it could be they want to show gameplay without ruining the story. If there was all talking videos everyone would complain about mgs4 length talking and cutscenes. You cannot please people on /v/
>>285479198
Hipsters man.
>>285479198
I knew I saved this picture for something
>>285478429
Hes guessing
i we wont know until kojima says what was the reason
After the role of a lifetime, David's been "busy."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVVHYGlh5DI
>>285479198
Hayter's voice got kind of awful in Peace Walker.
>>285477592
I thought he was good in Peace Walker. Not as good as the other games, but good nonetheless.
Why they fucking changed the man who had come to BE snake/bb's voice for the entirety of the franchise, I don't know.
>>285476268
When I played GZ I literally burst out laughing when I heard the line.
I wasn't even surprised, or expecting good voice acting, but when I heard those words, the first words Big Boss utters in Ground Zeroes, I just started laughing, really really hard.
Fuck you Kojima.
>>285472619
[citation needed]
>>285479359
There was nothing wrong with the length of cutscenes in MGS4 though. Metal Gear is a heavily story-based series, if you can't handle 15 minutes of cutscenes, the series isn't for you and you should go play Call of Duty or something.
>>285479198
It's about time Big Bosses voice changed. He is about to get to the point where he meets Solid Snake. Hayter should voice Snake if he appears again, not Big Boss
>>285479448
No, he fucking knows that is why. He is just trying to play innocent
>>285472619
It's Hayter that was charging too much, you retard. Kiefer gets a lump sum for the entire game while Hayter gets paid by the hour, you know how much that comes to when you add up all the dialogue in a Metal Gear game? The majority of Miller's dialogue is just him telling you what to do or filling you in on shit.
Anybody who says shit like this based on an outdated tech demo is retarded.
>>285479198
>Kiefer is charging too much
Is there seriously a source for this? Or is it something Hayter said in the middle of a twitter hissy fit?
>>285479297
You're fucking nuts.
>>285477592
>I blame the one person with no say in the artistic direction of the game
Did you hit your head often as child? Maybe dropped as an infant?
>>285479198
>Kiefer is charging too much
See >>285478429
>>285475846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT16qJH1e0g
Kojima just wanted a big name guy to do mocap and voice acting to give the game more importance.
He probably would have gotten the guy from Breaking Bad if he wasn't too expensive
>>285477023
This is actually how it's going to be.
Thanks bandwagoners for supporting the more "realistically" voiced Snake, now we don't get any of the goofy fun that the LAST FIVE GAMES HAD
>>285479462
>that moment when you realize Hayter can only do Snake voice
>>285474512
they had nanomachine based communication in the previous games though
>>285479890
Maybe not. Maybe it's just ingrained in him
>>285477984
Ketchupwaynghuah
>>285479895
Yes I'm sure Snake used mind powers to communicate through a microphone embedded in his fuckin skull
>>285479895
Not in MGS3 though.
>>285479890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P17RAn4FtE0&
>>285479625
>No, he fucking knows that is why. He is just trying to play innocent
Fuck off with this she said he said he thinks
He has no fucking clue since as he said before, they didnt even call him for a casting
I still think its because of his overacting, but we just pain up dont know as konami and capcom are probably the most piece of shit publishers from japan, they dont give a shit what anybody thinks, they would swap Hayter for a farting mexican if Kojima didnt have a say in it
I don't really care about VA continuity as long as the VA fits the character
Big Boss at some point stopped sounding like Hayter and started sounding like Cygan or whoever it was in MGS4
so they needed to change his voice some time. I don't mind Sutherland's voice, but I'll need to play the full game to see if it fits.
>>285479895
Only in MGS2
>>285479297
He was shit in ground zeroes, retard
Fuck you all for hating on Kiefer, he's a genuinely nice guy.
>>285479890
We don't know for sure.
The most likely scenario is the voice director got Hayter in and said to do the Snake voice because that's what's recognizable.
Reminder
>>285480448
That's right
Hayter (The jew) ruined MGS by demanding too much money. Keep up on actual info, anon.
Let's not forge that Kiefer and 24 ruined Splinter Cell too since they tried to make SC Conviction into 24 the game
>>285472619
you forgot to add
>Japanese voice actor died
>Performance quality
>Doing the same voice over and over again, making it more cartoonish after each iteration
>Performance quality
Hayter really has become a clown.
Is Keifer autistic? I'm seriously starting to believe this
Source please
>>285480660
The Jap VA for Campbell died. Not Snake.
can someone post that 'that's it, that's the stance' picture with keifer?
>>285479890
To be fair voice acting is about the delivery not making stupid voices.
I started listening a lot of audio books, an the ones i like the most is where the authors dont try hard making different voices, some pitch and slight tone is enough, what matters is how they deliver and read the lines.
>>285480692
I could believe that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu63YuFxGdo
>>285480696
IGN video that was just released. Google it yourself.
>>285480757
The Big Boss VA for MGS4 died.
>>285472860
It's just going to be filled with autismic pauses where the character tries to convey complex thoughts and emotions.
The Kojima hivemind will eat that shit up.
>>285472619
nice source faggot
>>285480757
Big Boss and Solid Snake use different Japanese voice actors.
Big Boss:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chikao_%C5%8Ctsuka
Solid Snake:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akio_%C5%8Ctsuka
and yes they are father and son
STANDING
>>285480948
But Drive was one of the best movies of the last 20 years and did exactly that
>>285480996
Where the fuck have you been all day? Interview with Kojima from IGN that was leaked said he will be quieter (Which makes sense because of the things happening to him). It will make it more shocking when he speaks and is upset. It has nothing to do with Kiefer since Hayter wanted more money
Oh, and the game is coming out September 1st, slow poke
>>285475846
...
>>285480692
That would explain why /tv/ likes him so much.
>>285481075
Chikao only voiced him in 4, every other time it's been his son.
>>285479198
Kojimadrones
>>285481108
Thanks, man. I've been trying to find that pic forever, but when you search "Arrested Development Big Boss" all you get is a Will Arnett interview where he said big boss.
>>285480679
Fuck his voice work
Its his scrips that are horrid.
I want to like the guy, but everything he didnt except watchmen screenplay was fucking crap.
Literally 1 screenplay out of 4.
But what really shows his ineptitude as a writer is his directional debut,Wolves, fuck me, hes even worse script writer than screenplay writer.
>>285472619
>>285480216
Ugh why is Troy Baker voicing Ocelot :(..
>>285481650
You want SKullface to voice Ocelot (That is SKullface's actor)
>>285481643
Link to that video
I refuse to believe he actually said that
>>285481832
He didn't, newfaggot
