Taking a class on games this semester. Thoughts on the schedule /v/?
>>285455560
If you need to study game design then you might as well quit now.
>>285455861
It's an elective alongside computer science
Enjoy and just make sure to skip weeks 3,4,8 and 10
>>285455560
Wow, it's a class about nothing!
>>285455560
A week off for Easter? What the fuck man, I'm getting the monday off and that's it.
It's wierd how they teach about gamergate in schools now, bet they never mention anything they achieved like GJP or that FTC decision
>>285456106
And well he's at it, he might as well skip weeks 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12 and 13.
>>285455560
>gamergate in college
We did it everyone!
>>285456313
Some places get a week off in April, some get a week off in March.
Waste of money, you nigger
>>285456016
You were a fool to take it. Any sort of games study courses are a joke in the IT field.
It's like saying you want to be a novelist, so you went and studied "Booking". It's a waste of fucking time. A better use of your time would have been some sort of applied mathmatics or an introductory language.
I'd say make the most of it, but recognise it'll do fucking nothing for you when you go out looking for employment, unless you want to work for clueless startup devs that go bust every one to two years.
>>285456837
If was a nigger I wouldn't have money to waste
>>285455560
>a college class on games
if it's anything other than a purely technical class then it's trash
>gamergate
drop the class
>>285456831
I get 0 weeks off, fuck you people, I'll have 3 days off this semester and I'll have to go do them on saturdays
>>285456871
>>285456969
Yea I know it's trash, but I need arts units to complete my degree. Its a good break from programming
>>285455560
>gamergate
Waste of time. You shouldve taken something else.
>>285455560
Are you paying tuition for this? Quit that shit and get a real education.
I get to live out my idea guy dreams
>>285457278
>Gamergate
This passes for a college curriculum? What fucking shitty literally who uni do you go to?
>>285455560
Get a real fucking education, you stupid shit.
>>285457254
You could have done anything else Arts though, there's tons of shit.
At the very least, try and avoid ever mentioning it when it comes to employment and shit. It's like putting a skull and crossbones clipart or comic sans on your resume. People see it and and don't look at anything else.
>Taking classes
>2015
OP how does being a sheep feel?
The fact that you're too retarded to rotate your images is a pretty good indicator of your mental capacities.
>>285457486
this has to be a CC or an IT school
What's the point of this fucking module? Are you even learning anything? Why does it seem like American colleges are just an excuse to spunk money away listening to people's subjective opinions instead of actually studying?
>>285456313
>>285456831
4 weeks off at Easter for me
Ayy lmao England
That schedule looks like it will teach you absolutely nothing about making a video game and all about how "people perceive gaming" and that kind of garbage.
I guess video games getting elective courses at this shit level really says something about society. All those twatter sprees and BoobTube personalities actually make this a legitimate academic topic worth college tuition.
I'm not sure which is more pathetic, the class attending or the "professor" teaching it.
So now that this is a class, how far are we from "gaming journalism/commentation" becomes a legit college major and you have guest lecturers like PewDiePie?
>>285455560
Anon, where are you studying this shit? What college?
>>285457701
4 weeks off? What are you in middle school? How long does your semester last?
>>285457409
>in a group of 2 or 3
>>285455560
>Gamergate
>Relevant to game design.
Rather it's pro or against both sides are gonna be half baked and overly ignorant about the other side. Nothing good can come of this and basing it truly on how liberal colleges are it's just gonna be 30 minutes on "le sexist internet hate machine"
>>285455560
That sounds like a useless class.
Game design has nothing to do with video games. It's basically a hybrid class of statistics and human behavior. What you're paying money to take is /v/ 101.
Whatever. Gotta fill up those requirements for the degree I guess.
>>285457532
How does being a NEET feel?
>>285457647
It's the most prestigious university in my country actually. Shouldn't be too hard to guess.
>>285457701
Implying I live in clapistan
>>285455560
Vidya classes are usually scams, you're better off learning it on your own.
The lecturer looks and sounds just like Jonathan blow
>>285455621
>Professor not bothering to capitalize his points in his presentation
How much are you paying for this, OP?
>>285457982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqq94-P0egw
the video he's referencing is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0qjK3TWZE8
This is actual game design.
>american education
>video games
>#gamergate
>>285458080
You're a goddamn UofT faggot, aren't you?
the ??? makes it sound like hes just gonna drop "it isnt" and move onto sexism and murder of women
>>285457701
What happened was that they banned general IQ test on applications for jobs in the US. This was because black people were being held from certain jobs because they couldnt score high enough.
IQ is almost perfectly predictive of success in college and success in college is used by employers later. College became the new IQ measure (see how most schools are not training for specific jobs) but it takes 4 years to do.
Notably, black people can't do well enough to get into colleges, or even medical programs after college. I've checked the MCAT records and pretty much no black people qualify to go to medical school at white person standards. So the whole thing is failing.
>>285456871
>IT field
>computer science
>IT field
>CS
I mean sure there's some overlap but nigger you what now.
>>285456871
do you understand the word elective/college in general?
sometimes you just take classes to get the credits, especially if they are easy/taken with friends.
>>285458080
I'm surprised, I thought this type of shitty teaching was confined only to America. What country are you in?
>>285457913
3 weeks off at Christmas, 4 weeks off at Easter and 12 weeks off at Summer is pretty standard at most English universities. Ofc you're expected to be revising and doing coursework over this time but a lot of people do as minimal as possible.
In-fact, at Oxford/Cambridge you get weeks off at both Christmas and Easter along with 16 weeks off in summer.
>>285456871
>>285456969
confirmed for having never gone to college
>>285457254
>Game Design Class
>Arts
Holy shit, this is LITERALLY FUCKING NOTHING.
>>285459107
It's at university of Sydney (Aus). It'll be a pretty good WAM booster
>>285459107
>In-fact, at Oxford/Cambridge you get weeks off at both Christmas and Easter along with 16 weeks off in summer.
what the fuck
>>285455560
>serious games
>>285458757
IQ tests have been proven to be incredibly culturally biased, which explains the trend you're explaining.
If they worded all the questions in ghetto speak and situations all took place in shit hole communities, they would likely score better and the spoiled richers would do poorly in comparison.
Trying to do the whole "one test determines people's success" is the utter failure really.
>>285459375
Should have said 6 weeks off at Oxford/Cambridge at Christmas/Easter
http://www.ox.ac.uk/about/facts-and-figures/dates-of-term
>>285455560
So where is the lecture where you start coding and learn something?
All I see is a bunch of culture shit.
>>285459307
>>285459097
Dunno about Clapistan, but here employers will look at your electives, and will judge you if you took some easy credit class like this.
>taking non-STEM major classes
enjoy your fucking debt and lack of job prospects
>>285455560
Are you even going to make games in this class? If you aren't then just fucking drop it. I've already made 1 and I'll make 1 more by the time the semester is over.
>>285457515
>he references classes he took in college on a resume
you are some kind of stupid
Kek, at Columbia we have mandatory cis privlage checking training, mandatory don't rape people+transqueer rape stalking violence sessions, with how to treat LGBTQRST patients in medicine. IVY LEAGUE BABY.
ITT: Morons who except to learn coding and shit in a game design class
Literally retarded.
>>285459774
>except
Expect.I really should stop browsing 4chin from my phone.
>take history and theory of game design as an arts elective
>it's pretty much centered around tabletop games, player psychology / rudimentary game theory, and playing Illuminati.
Literally got graded to play boardgames.
>>285459672
>Employers never ask what you studied or have a system of checking, just look for a sheet of paper that you could lie about.
No wonder Americas a shithole.
>>285459606
holy shit that's brutal man we got it easy then.
>why did you take online art 20?
well I drew 2 pictures a weak scanned them, sent them in, and she graded based on improvement
>is that why you started with crayons and finished with DaVinci level work?
y-yes.
>and how did this help you with your business degree?
uh well
>REJECTED
>>285459774
why not both? You can do both CS and game design. Not difficult.
>>285459774
>Took a 1 credit game design course this semester
>Every lecture the guy goes over code that will be useful for the weekly homework
>Provides sprites and even draws them for us
>Final project in the class is to independently make a game
Believe it or not, CompSci courses teach you shit and Games are a pretty damn good way to learn.
>>285459618
>falling for STEM bait
enjoy having your job outsourced to Indians, Slavs and other poorfags who will do it for three times less money
>>285457409
rotate the fucking image before you post it you fucking mongoloid.
>>285459481
Naw, it's a charming narrative but they have tried exactly what you are talking about and it doesn't work. "IQ tests are reading tests" has been shown to be wrong. In fact, at this point dozens styles of IQ tests have been devised to eliminate bias but black americans always score well below the average. IQ tests designed for people in african countries leave africans at near retard levels. I don't even want it to be true because it scares me and makes me sad but I have to believe it.
>>285459618
>graduate from prestigious high school top of my class
>get into Harvard STEM
>struggle through til my senior year with a 4.0; everyone I know is extremely proud
>end up having to fill in some space for credit
>decide to take a non-STEM class on women in the workplace
>easy 4.0 and graduate
>several connections all line up to interview
>word gets out that I took a non-stem class
>nobody will even look at me
>end up several trillion dollars in debt and homeless sucking dicks on the corner of rico's grocery
AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN!?!?!?
>>285460004
C's get degrees man. Unless you're trying to be the best in your field or get hired by the best company right out of the gate why bother? enjoy yourself
>>285459107
English uni, looking at 5 weeks off for easter.
>>285457409
>A thousand words on your game idea
>Groups of two or three
>What it is that your game is teaching
Everything about this picture makes me want to throw up
>>285460076
It's not that bad, but theres a nationwide system where an employer can look for what you studied and what classes you took.
So they get "Comp. Science" and right slap in the middle is "Video Games Studies". That sets of alarm bells in STEM jobs here, so they either become highly sceptical, thinking you didn't really understand the industry you were aiming for, or they don't call back.
Joys of a small country, I guess. A bit harder in America, where your college might be six states away.
>>285460131
>implying Indians know how to do anything other than help desk for IT
There were numerous Indians in my courses, all of them were smelly, cheating halfwits who didn't have an ounce of creativity or passion for their work.
>>285459774
>>285459883
a proper game design class would be a junior or senior level elective where you are tasked to design a complete game and implement it using whatever language/engine. you know, so you actually learn the theory and practice of game design.
this class is "how to be an idea guy 101" with a dash of social/cultural commentary on games.
>>285460117
Yeah but did you actually learn anything from the code or did you just learn "problem X is solved with code snippet A."
CS doesn't hand you prefabricated code on a silver platter, it gives you theory to implement on your end of the picture.
>>285457930
That was such a stupid fucking scene. He just stands there with the tornado wind force not affecting him. God it pisses me the fuck off so much.
>>285460090
Why not both? Because coding has nothing to do with game design. You learn coding in an entire different class. Game design is and should always be all about the philosophy and psychology behind designing games and the player. How do people thing, why do they thing, what gives them a thrill, what makes them happy, what sad.
Coding is nothing but a tool. Any good professor will tell you that day 1. Any fucking moron can learn to code in any language he wants.
Understanding why you code X the way you did is what other classes teach you. If a game design class teaches you how to code, it's nothing but a waste of time since you should already know that. Game design should teach you why some design choices are a good thing while other are bad. They should teach you how to make the games mechanics easy to understand. Most of our brains work in a similar fashion. Game design should be a class that teaches you about that and how you can use the human psychology to make a game that would be understandable and enjoyable.
Coding is something that you should already know. When your algorithms classes start, they don't teach you how to code, they teach you how to solve problems using algorithms, how the algorithms work, why they work. Same shit here.
>>285460672
ha damn yo, most employers just check to see if you have the degree, the more stuck up ones might check your GPA to see if you were actually smart or just sliding by on the side of your pants. (2.5 GPA master race) I would not get hired by the higher end ones. But that's okay because money ain't everything
>>285460674
ok buddy, just don't say you didn't see it coming when 90% of STEM jobs (especially IT) get outsourced
also
>muh passion for work
yeah, unless you're top 0.0001% in your field nobody gives a shit how or why you do something, as long as you do it
>>285461209
And forgot to add, it teaches you all that and how to actually implement it with your already existing knowledge of coding.
So tl.dr. It should teach you how to make a game from your already existing knowledge and why you should do it that way. It teaches you how to use the tool "coding" and not how to code.
>>285455560
What kind of shithole college is that? Was this actually approved as part of the schedule? Is this what education is like in America?
>>285460672
That's hilariously retarded. Why even let people choose what classes they take? Why not just set up an agreed upon standardized courseload if all the industry wants is trained fucking monkeys to jump through hoops?
>>285461281
>mfw i lied on my resume about having a degree but i passed the technical interview and got a job making 48k
literally all i do at work is shitpost on 4chan and make sure the servers are up
college is a racket
>>285461209
this. I honestly wish my college offered more game design classes where they told you HOW to make good games, instead of just "in this class you will make a game. hop to it!" Like, I'm paying money. I'd like someone who knows a fuck or two to give some pointers, or at least tell the dumbshits their autistic game ideas aren't feasible or even desirable.
instead we just got told "good job" when we did anything, except for the capstone project where they suddenly expected perfection. I wish the rest of the course had been like that last class, with the prof riding our asses and pushing us to make GOOD GAMES, not just shit out some crap. I can learn to use unity and c++ and flash and maya and unreal and everything else on my own time, it's tips about level design and balancing and sthi that I wanted to hear.
>>285455560
>gamergate is actually being discussed on college campuses
>>285461858
If you don't already know about good level design/balancing you need to play more vidya.
>>285462814
It doesn't really work that way. And even if it did, it would breed repetitive gameplay and unoriginal concepts.
