Is Monster Hunter the apex of gear progression games?
>Getting into "dungeons" is pretty streamlined and easy
>Progression feels silky smooth
>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
>Combat is good
I just got MH4U and it feels like what every Korean MMO tries to be but inevitably fails due to cash shops and bad design decisions. It's like the final form of PSO
>no pvp
It's shit
>>284556614
Did great Jaggi kill your dog or something?
I've never played a MH game
But they really, really, really look like tedious boring 'gear drop' games that take 'grinding simulator' to a new level
>>284556614
If you want pvp play Street Fighter or any variety of games designed for it
You can't put pvp and permanent stat progression in the same game
>>284556772
Who?
>>284556825
>never play game
>call it shit
>>284556917
Why would I play a grindy game without pvp? That's shit.
>>284556346
are you even at g rank? you're going to be farming monsters for a long time for that 4% drop that only can obtained through carving the tail and then capping. Then you'll want to try to speed it up by going online and farming brachy for its pallum, but the retarded faggots wants to cap it because they think it's more loot than carving.
>>284556776
They are just a giant gear treadmill. People don't mind, though, because the gameplay is actually pretty fun.
>>284557074
Yeah, but that's what they say about doing the same shit in games like Diablo over and over, and I've found that those are all actually shit games, even Diablo 2, that people only praise because the formula addicts them like a drug.
>>284557357
Most people do not share your opinion that Diablo 1 and 2 are shit games. People have different tastes.
>>284557020
>retarded faggots want to cap because they think it's more loot than carving
Not more loot, better drop rates. And it's been true for most of Monster Hunter history that capping gives better loot on average, and is faster.
Only in MH4U (in the West) has this trend been broken, where it's often a better choice to kill for plates / gems / palliums / rare item du jour, rather than capture.
>>284556776
>I've never played a MH game
Then your opinion isn't worth much. I play MH because the combat is really engaging. You're constantly on your toes and there's a wide selection of enemies to fight. There's also plenty of weapons that all play differently to one another. The upgrading weapons and armor is satisfying but the game would be nothing without the combat to keep people engaged.
To say it in a way you understand it's a ''boss fight simulator.''
>>284557357
Pretty much. A lot of games /v/ praise are in fact a bunch of mediocre stuff that has an element that makes them addictive, kinda like WoW in it's younger days.
>>284557357
Monster Hunter has enough content that you can fight all of the monsters at least once and still get enough hours in that it's worth the money. However, some people enjoy hunting large monsters so much that they'll move on to the more difficult modes and do the gear grind until they get bored.
>>284556776
You fight monsters to get better gear to fight more monsters.
It mights seem like a grind, but fighting monsters can be so satsifying that it rarely seems like a chore.
Plus, there's always something new to discover, like how a certain combination of skills benefits a certain weapon, or understanding a certain tell of a monster improves your chances of staying alive against it. Even if you don't get the drops, you come out of each experience a little better than you were going in.
>>284556785
>You can't put pvp and permanent stat progression in the same game
You can. People just have to learn to enjoy it for what it is without shoving competition into everything.
>look ma, my first mh game!
>>284557357
That is because Diablo IS a shit game, while Monster Hunter isnt.
Diablo is for people who want to turn their brains off and run their four short acts over and over forever.
MH is harder, more engaging and has way more content than any game of that kind.
Go take a look at the gameplay for fucks sake.
Couldnt be more different.
>>284556346
>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
Rathian Plate < 3%
Lagiacrus plate < 3%
Rathalos plate < 2%
fuck
that
shit
>>284556614
>he's never played with a LS user
>>284556346
If they actually got rid of all the idiotic timesink the series has (or at the very least cut them in half) and had tigher controls the games could be great. As they stand, they're just really average, the combat being the only saving grace.
>>284557934
you get like 10 drops per fight though so it's not that bad.
the only thing i'm finding a little lacking is online co-op just doesn't feel good enough. you need another human with you to enjoy the game fully, and the only person i know who plays is a friend on holiday. i wish more people would play MH. there's no way I could sink 100+ hours into online play with strangers, it's isolating.
>>284557901
Nice bait.
>>284558069
Play over skype or TS.
Yeah, it's gear progression done purely and properly, considering you get 0 increases to your base stats without gear.And it shows gear progression games are only salvageable up to a certain point.
90% of people are tired of it well before G rank.
>>284558116
Go back to your corea tier grind shitfest.
Worst fucking genre.
>>284558069
the online community is actually bretty good man. you're just beating up loot pinatas, why do you need to know who's with you?
>>284558195
Are you talking about Diablo or MH?
>>284558047
Those "drops" are quest rewards, certain items (like plate) only drop from "wounding" a body part
You can only get 1 drop per hunt per body part, so if you add it with your 3 carves you only have 4 chances to get one each hunt
>>284558183
>90% of people are tired of it well before G rank.
Nothing wrong with that.
For many high rank is too hard already.
>>284558252
Diablo of course.
Everything I said holds up.
>>284558069
What's that? Lore? Post more, please
>>284556776
I've played so far (only) a few hundred hours of MH. Only grinding I've needed is fight the same monsters twice of thrice for the gear, then spend 50+ hours just hunting for the joy of hunt.
People who have never played Monster Hunter overexaggerate the grinding part of the game. New equipment makes your life easier, but it won't play the game for you.
>>284557934
DESIRE SENSOR
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>Need some Rathalos scale+
>Get a bunch of rubies and medullas
>>284558047
>>284557934
Explain my stack of Gore Magala Plates when all I want is the goddamn tail then.
>>284558183
>90% of people are tired of it well before G rank.
This was true when I played MH3. I had no idea what I was doing and spent and wasted a colossal amount of time. I enjoyed myself a lot but I spent so much time without really progressing. I got to some like HR4 and stopped playing.
It's completely different with 4. Now that I have a running start I'm progressing well and really enjoying myself. I think it's taken me about a third of the time to get to where I was in 3.
I don't think stopping before G Rank is a big deal anyway. To get to that point the player would have probably put a good few hours in to the game already. Even just doing all of the village quests in 3 would give the average player their money's worth.
>>284558218
Yeah I don't mind the community. Maybe what I'm saying is more of a testament to how good local co-op was on MH3U, via Wii-U and 3DS.
I just find that with physical communication, this game allows you to enter a state of shared Zen. Utter tranquility.
>>284558498
It's from a Monster Hunter Illustrations Vol 1 I believe, really early stuff.
>trying to get a Lagia Sapphire
No.
Moster Hunter is not the apex of gear progression games.
>>284558736
>not cloudy moonshard
>modern youngsters can't take drop ranges in the % range
Cute
>>284558880
>% is a range
>>284556346
I love monster hunter, but the way they release their games is bad, as in how they do the mainline game, then 2-3 standalone expansions. It's somewhat greedy, and not easily noticed from an american viewpoint where we only get a select few of the games.
>>284558687
Oh yeah I agree about local co-op. Some of my best moments in gaming came from MH3U with my friends and a gravity bong.
Where do I find Pelicoes with the Healing forte? I'm having a hard time understanding if it's my bad luck vs RNG or if certain skills only show up on certain field maps. I keep getting trappers in the Frozen Seaway, Fighters in V. Hollow and Defenders in S. Hollow. Could be just bad luck but I dunno.
>>284559008
Pretty sure it's in the same place you fight your first congalala, but I'm so far from that point that I really don't remember.
>>284556941
>never played
>calls it grindy
>calls it shit
O-okay, friend.
>>284558261
Almost every rare material in MH3U had a specific quest where the drop rate from the quest itself was significantly higher than the cap/carve rate or you could fight 3 of the monster at the same time aka the monster would have fuck all health each which made getting rare mats a lot easier. Of course most people are retarded so they didn't even look up an easier way to get rare mats.
>>284559139
So, Primal Forest? I'll try that.
>>284559008
The very first one I got was a healer. It was in the forest.
>>284559008
Yeah Calico is in the cave during the Cong mission. Not sure if Calico is a default name (he's the first I've acquired, and he's keeping that name)
>>284559206
But it IS grindy, anon. He's full of shit for talking about a game he's never played it, but don't you fucking dare pretend that this game isn't grindy.
>>284559289
Killing a monster 4-5 times is grinding?
![1424656047565[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Kr2PfQT.png "1424656047565[1].png")
>>284559008
>>284559267
>>284559286
I'm not talking about the default one you get as a freebie. I'm talking about hiring extra ones. If you set up Palicoes with the same skills in the 1st stinger then your main palico will get new skills, much like how armor skills work. The more palicoes you have as 1st stingers with the same skill (fighting, healing, whatever) the better your main palico becomes at that skill.
Is this game any good?
I played a shit ton of MH3 on 3ds and got full rathalos armour
I need a massive time sink for 2 weeks
No-one told me the Lance had a jump attack from it's charge.
Seriously that one move catapulted lance to the best weapon class.
>>284559208
>quest drop increases from 3% to 10% at max
Fuck that.
>>284559427
No. Killing X monster Y amount times because you need Z amount of parts is grinding. The fact that you may need to kill a fucker 20 times for one fucking part is insanity.
>>284559439
I love you. Thank you! So I was right that it wasn't completely RNG but dependant on the map.
>>284559519
If it's a massive time sink you want, then you've come to the right place.
Even the new expedition stuff has that 'one more play' quality to it.
Is 3U still worth playing for somebody who has a Wii U but no 3DS?
I have Freedom Unite on the PSP that came with it along with a bunch of other games, but I couldn't deal with the load times.
>>284559519
Maybe take a note of the complete lack of shitposting and hatred consistently found in these daily threads. I hear there is more content in 4U than any other. You hear the call of the Hunter's Horn.
>>284559718
yes
>>284559427
>Low Rank
So you don't know shit yet. Thanks for establishing that.
>>284559718
If you haven't played 4U to spoil you, yes, it's very good.
>>284559718
Very much so, yes. There are many good monsters in MH3 that were not added into MH4U. Missing out on them would be a shame.
>>284556346
Because it's a video game with 400m pieces of user-generated FPS Multiplayer games. Like Guts and Pokemon combined.
Bosses get more than 1 move per turn. If you have to do random encounters like the final form of PSO
Jesus titty-fucking Christ I miss Hyper Ninja Kitty.
>>284557357
I'd praise Diablo 2 even without a gear grind. If you're trying to hit high levels in multiplayer then sure, but the singleplayer alone is fucking fantastic even without a gear grind.
>keep killing the same monster over and over until you get all the low droprate trash you need to create the shit you want
>also do unfun menial shit over and over like harvesting, fishing and mining either at a farm or on missions
>game is just an incredibly repetitive OCD activity center
>this is the apex of the genre
I guess the whole genre is shit then.
>>284560017
>not hyper ninja owl
>>284560312
>not hyper ninja bat
>>284557568
>>284557020
No, this has been different since Tri at least, and it was still there for 3U. Getting Claws from agnaktor has always been better to carve. Some things can only be gotten from Gigginox if you carve or break parts, not capture.
There are plenty of things that capturing never influences. For gems and plates yeah it will often be the better method, but there are plenty of rare materials since Tri that aren't just gems and plates.
>>284560354
>not hyper ninja owlbat
>>284556776
Do you have a 3DS? Download the 4U demo.
Personally I liken it to a PvE raid boss fighting game with a loot-based progression to keep people hooked. Because honestly any actual fighting game loses my interest extremely quickly.
>>284556346
not enough wildcard armors
shitr where 'oif it was any other set of bonusews trhis would NEVH work'
>>284560301
I miss the farm.
There was just something so fulfilling about watching it slowly grow and develop, and you could cook 10 slabs of meat in one sitting.
>>284559617
>10% at max
>4% chance for every slot on two rewards rows
I think you're an idiot. Even binomial calculation doesn't lower it THAT much.
>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
>>284558591
You're not ending via subquest.
>>284558069
I enjoy the game fully even without other humans. I view going online as being a co-operative helping-eachother initiative as we all sign up for the same goals and then help each other achieve them faster.
Basically I only ever go online if it's to grind something, and since I expect to eventually forge every single armour and weapon, I never have a problem playing multiplayer with anyone on any quest.
But I will always do those quests at least twice solo before doing so. A single cart in either of those two hunts and I tack on another two hunts until I can do it without carting ever.
>>284560027
>HR50
>G1
carried scrubs general? I think you might belong in /vg/
Anime was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46wXTQc5tQ
>>284560934
>Playing with friends is getting carried
If you say so.
The day I got the game we all went online and played together.
I fucking did my G rank urgent Solo
>>284558687
Ehhhh, I can live without voice chat. Preset messages and pinging are enough for me.
>>284559439
I still have no clue what the best palico type is... Stamina is incredibly useful for me, but I feel like healing could also be a life saver.
>>284561001
>based on Frontier G
It was to be expected
>>284559286
>Calico
I named him Caliconi to make it sound vaguely Italian Mafia.
WHAT HAVE YOU ALL NAMED YOUR PALICOES?
ACE PALICO IS SIEGFRIED
THEN THERE'S CALICO (CALICONI)
AND UDON (UDON-YA) ((I SHOULD HAVE NAMED HIM UDON-NYA))
>>284561184
Baldrick
Tips of this Ukanlos fucker? Help me git gud.
>>284561024
Healing is handy and can sometimes save your life, yes.
But if you get gooder, then I prefer stealing types.
>>284560934
Well i'm HR 55, and I did every low rank guild quests alone, plus half of HR quests.
I cleared caravan before.
If you are HR 40, or HR 30 at G1, well, you are a carried scrub.
>>284561024
Again, depends on your class and playstyle. Some tend to work better with certain weapons, like the bomb ones with the gunner classes.
>>284560891
This nigga knows how it works.
>>284561249
Pierce / Fire shots?
>>284561263
What makes you say that? What's wrong with getting the G permit below 50?
>>284561249
When he charges at you just run past him towards him
>>284561407
You have no armor, no weapon, and your mates will have to carry you.
Guild rank 40 may be forgivable, but below that critical point, you are a scrub.
>>284561495
Oh I see what you mean, if you're low level you wont have farmed enough monsters for good gear?
VelocipreyS with gemmed attack up L and psychic is pretty neat for high rank.
Do I still get the attack boost benefits from the canteen with this?
jesus christ Khezu is already an annoying piece of shit by himself, but two at the same time... My heart can't stand this
>>284562013
Yes.
>>284562060
How about you bring dung bombs.
They are made for that.
Unless you mean an arena quest
>>284562060
Just throw a dung bomb at one of them or use a smoke bomb.
>>284559617
>10% drop chance
>5 minutes per monster
>average of one drop per 50 minutes
Oh god someone save me from this agonizing grind
>>284561674
yup. That's the issue, here. I saw a G-ranked guy with like 25 HR. His armor was a stupid mix of everything he could craft on the moment, and his weapon was level 4. Everyone left.
>>284562354
What drop from what monster? Tell me and I'll tell you the true chances.
>/mhg/ doesnt have a TS so I cant tell people their favorite weapon is babby casual shit in cute girl voices
>>284562060
speaking of Khezu... I'm fighting one right now, and the fucking bastard fell asleep hanging from the roof. How the hell do I wake him up?
>>284562467
I got the Ukantor GS and a set that gives.
Focus
Crit Draw
Sharpness +1
Shitty 350 defense though
>>284562651
There are icicles on the roof, yeah?
Climb the wall, jump across the icicles, then jump attack him.
Alternatively use barrel bombs. They're in the supply box for a reason.
>>284562774
Sorry, bounce bombs.
>>284562774
>Climb the wall, jump across the icicles, then jump attack him.
I thought it was an option, but all of my attempts to reach them ended in failure. I'll use the barrel bombs, thanks a bunch
Does MH4U have a "Mark of a Hero" type village quest for those who have completed every offline mission? I just beat Silver Rathalos/Gold Rathian/Molten Tigrex etc. and wondering if there's more after that besides G-rank online.
>>284562902
Then jump to closer icicles?
>>284563187
Yes, but you also need to complete a certain number of gathering hall missions before you can access it as well.
>Tfw CPP for my XL coming in the mail today.
I'm ready for maximum Comfy bros. How comfy are you guys?
Is Diablos armor worth making?
>>284563426
I've been much comfier after getting the n3ds xl. Framerate is more stable and I can rotate the camera using the new shoulder buttons.
Just got the game yesterday.
Should I be doing the caravan quests first or the guild low rank quests first?
Why is the Stygian Zinogre set so good? Sub 5 minute Deviljho, it wasn't even a challenge. What other monsters have dragon weaknesses?
>>284563738
Caravan.
>>284564018
seeing Rathalos happy makes me angry. Fuck him
>>284564165
>>284563738
Caravan. That's essentially the 'story' mode that'll unlock all the extra stuff like recruiting cats, expeditions and more ways to dupe items.
>>284564165
How about Rathian?
>>284556346
I just want some nectar for my Kinsect ;_;
Hey, which MH would be the best one to emulate? I have a friend who wants to try it but doesn't have a 3DS, and I don't wanna make him buy one before he knows if he likes it or not.
>>284564456
3rd HD on PPSSPP
>>284564441
you can find tons of it during expeditions
>>284564253
like that. Stupid motherfucking Rathalos
>>284564376
Rathian is fine. I hated her at the beginning, but now I kind of like her
>>284564456
Freedom Unite or P3rd.
FU has more content, but it's old. P3rd has the improvements of 3rd gen, but has less content and is easier to get into.
>>284563668
I've found CPP shoulder buttons to be more intuitive than N3DSXL shoulder buttons.
Thank fucking god I don't actually need to turn the camera with the shoulder buttons anymore for proper Bow usage like I had to in 3U. Type 2 is fucking amazing holy shit.
>>284564441
Just do all of Wycoon's missions till nectar is 3-star with 3 carts available, then dump all of your resource points into generating nectar.
Any multiplayer stories?
>Do gore urgent for HR2
>just me LBG random DB and random HH
>Do alright
>"japanese name in english" guy enters
>girl avatar with fucking tetsu armor
>switch axe
>DB guy wants to get his urgent Gore done
>DB selects it
>SA faggot posts how he needs Najarala done badly
>keeps bitching until DB gives in and we all do Narj
>During the fight faggot stays back and hardly hits (tries to mount at every opportunity)
>we beat it
>DB picks gore
>everything's fine until he carts
>stays in the first area
>He went AFK
Have you ever blacklisted someone?
>>284564658
holy shit. That's why I rarely do online.That and because it's usually laggy as fuck
Anyone have the webm of Gore from the anniversary video? The one where it flies up and becomes Shagaru?
Friendly reminder that you can use Bombs to blow up those huge ass rocks on egg quests, that will save you a shitload of time
>>284563187
Here you go.
Remember, you asked for this.
>>284564824
>have to drop egg to bomb rock
No, it won't.
>>284564897
You bomb them before you even get the egg.
Lance was here.
All other weapons are for faggots.
>>284564836
what the dong.
>>284564945
But the rocks go up after I get the egg, not before.
>>284565104
They appear in between drop offs.
>>284564970
>using the guard poke for your DPS
>minimal fucking damage
>doesn't even combo, it's just one wimpy stab every four seconds
Man that flowchart is shit tier. I understand if people are too pleb to evasion lance, but I die a little more inside everytime I see some shitty pub keeping his shield up 24/7 even when a monster isnt looking at him, or stunned. The only time you should block is if it's a panic block or revving up free fucking counters. Keep that shit down and POKE.
>>284558970
It's funny how we never hear of this stuff. Japan tends to be just as bad as the west on the DLC front. Possibly worse since they make you rebuy the same game.
>>284564658
>play emulate tri when 3U is already out
>enjoy it, play 200+ hours
>talk about MH all the time to friend
>I get a wii u finally and order 3U
>order 3U because it's available nowhere
>he gets it digitally
>begins playing and finishes LR without me
>finally get
>he has to be coerced into playing online half the time
>gunlance user
>completely shitty
>shielding all the time
>no deaths, but hardly ever gets a hit in
>I'm talking about myself of course
>friend is dual blade user and actually good
>usual strategy of being a shielding scrub while the monster just sticks on me doesn't work since it keeps going after him
>meanwhile he hacks it up and I feel useless
>leave, block him, delete from contacts
>doxx him
>harass zoe quin and anita sarkesian using his twitter that I knew the password to
never again
>>284564836
That isn't that bad, especially if they give you access to the "drive" wystone. Do they have G-rank damage/health?
>>284565346
this. I don't Lance much but when I did I learned shield poking won't work. although these flow charts are usually jokes
>>284565414
Guild sweeheart is so fucking adorable, my heart hurts. I will never hunt monsters with her cheering me on ;_;
>>284559427
Yes, when the game challenges you to kill it once and you have to kill it 4 extra times just to make your character stronger, that is textbook grind.
>>284565589
>4
try 50 in this game
>>284565737
It depends, I managed to make the full S.Zinogre set after 3 hunts, during which I got 4 umbrages (gems).
>>284564658
I havent had very bad experiences.
Aside from one guy who fucked up every mount he did. We did like 3 hunts together and he's fail the mini game every time he'd try it. The mini game isn't even hard. I fuck it up sometimes due to stamina but unless you have a broken R there's no reason to fail.
I only played Tri and I beat the big Lag monster thing but stopped playing after because it was taking me 40 minutes to kill the big bad boss monsters, and I needed to kill them 3+ times to get items to upgrade my gear, and if I didn't then I couldn't beat the next tier of monsters in time. I would rarely ever die while playing but killing them just took forever with my weapons (used the switch axe mostly). Just to kill the Lag thing I had to kill the mud dinosaur something like seven times because I couldn't get a specific item to drop when I was carving it up. I had a lot of fun playing it and I'm not saying it's a bad game but I couldn't keep playing when progression relied entirely on spending so much time doing things I'd already done. I guess the answer was to git gud and kill stuff faster.
What's a good best weapon aka GS to grind at LR
>>284565737
if you've had to do over 20 hunts it's your fault for triggering the desire sensor and not loading your save to before you looked at the requirements, or simply checking on the wiki.
>>284565260
I have watched as a rock hasn't been there before I got the egg, then been there after. Don't you dare fucking tell me it happens on drop off.
>>284565887
>Don't you dare fucking tell me it happens on drop off.
It does.
>>284565848
Proper execution can cut down a lot of time.
Its not just all gear. Thats something you'll notice when you got all the best possible gear and then still see some improvement in hunt times after that.
I remember Switchaxes being bad in Tri though.
>>284564836
At least monsters have lower health when it's a multi-monster hunt.
>>284565260
Fucking sneaky-ass rocks.
>>284557820
So you want imbalanace. PvP is all about competition, be it friendly strife or rank, it will always be about competition. PvP is competitive in nature. There is literally no PvP game that exists that ISN'T competitive. Go on. Name one. You don't go into a battlefield to suck your enemy's dick, you go to subjugate them.
>>284565881
how does this desire sensor even work
i swear to god it's fucking real
>>284565958
It doesn't, you misinforming shitlord.
>>284566119
It does. I've seen some casual shit in MH threads but not being able to handle rocks in egg quests is a new low. Seek help.
>>284565879
Just make the ravager blade(+). You won't be upgrading it past low rank, but it's a great low rank weapon owing to its huge bar of green sharpness and solid damage. Also it takes ore to make rather than monster materials.
>>284566071
>At least monsters have lower health when it's a multi-monster hunt.
I'm disappointed by this mechanic. why not balance correctly so that the quest is difficult but possible, without nerfing the monsters in them? tri had this for the few post-game village quests, if I recall
instead we get various iterations of "BIG BAD IMPOSSIBLE FINAL ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN" with five monsters who die in two hits
>Drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
>>284566071
>MHP3gayshit
Why is the filename so angry?
>>284566367
Man I never even managed to complete the 3U village "Mark of a Hero" quest.
I just couldn't do it, I tried so hard.
>>284566215
>Not being able to handle rocks
Who the fuck isn't able to handle rocks? I can handle rocks just fine, I'm just telling you straight to your fucking e-face that you are a goddamn liar and misinforming people about when rocks come up.
If rocks came up after drop-off, then your primary path would be blocked the moment you leave to get the next one. It isn't. It is, however, blocked after you get the next one. This means that it sneaks in after you get the egg, not before.
>>284566367
>Balance correctly so the quest is difficult but possible.
That's exactly how it is. Monsters die faster, but deal more damage.
>>284566104
I didn't believe until I needed 4 G.Jaggi frills to make the Chieftain's greatsword and it took me over 30 2-minute hunts, during which I broke its head 100% of the time. I had 9 heads (10% chance) and 4 frills (65% chance) when I finally finished.
>>284566525
What exactly is it you can't handle when it comes to the rocks? If you're having this much difficulty so early in the game then I suggest you give up now.
Shouldnt we get an announcement for the next MH game soon?
>Regios armor and Regios lance
I am a king
Is "progression game" a way not to call MH a boring grindbox?
>>284566609
> but deal more damage.
is this true?
but really, my problem is that they don't give any indication that these monsters are different from usual. you only know from the description and having done such quests before. you just have these monsters that are strangely much weaker than usual. it tickles my autism
it's not like with those DLC quests with giant monsters
hey does anyone know how to unlock a village molten tigrex? So much misinformation online.
>>284566813
>boring
It's pretty much the only non-boring console game these days.
>>284566813
I don't see how it is boring, I can't wait to play it every day because of how much fun I'm having.
>>284566828
It tickles my autism too, but at least I know I don't need to worry much about the difficulty. hunt a thons are total jokes
>tfw 5 hard mode narjalalalas in a single go
>>284566486
Because I'm a casual who doesn't want to do end-game shit alone in one of the easiest MH games.
>tfw watching my friend get mad at the Gigginox in P3rd
I'm sure you'll all laugh at me for asking but
How do I do guild quests?
>>284567003
in the gathering hall
>>284566813
You can get plenty of gameplay out of it before it becomes boring, because it consists mostly of boss battles, unlike other grindfests.
>>284567003
Gathering hall, its an option next to event and urgent
>>284566950
But soloing is fun, reaching the right mindset can take a while. Have you tried using evade+?
And we could just play on Evolve maybe??
>>284566891
Glad for you to be easily entertained. After 4 games of the series I'm done with it. It's always the same old "kill a monster, grind for gear, kill a stronger monster, repeat", and I'm always late to the party so I don't get to play online, which is the only reason this tripe is remotely fun to play.
>>284566962
>3rd
anybody who complains about anything in that wouldnt make it in any other MH game.
>>284567134
why
>>284567130
>not being a solo hunter who plays for the gameplay and challenge
come the fuck on
>>284567130
Then why are you in the thread? How are those assburgers treating you
>>284567130
>easily entertained
>and I'm always late to the party so I don't get to play online
But so am I. I have no 3DS yet.
And Tri was shut down over 3 years after release if that's the game you were referring to.
>which is the only reason this tripe is remotely fun to play
That's just wrong. I'll admit that the singleplayer loses some of its charm outside of your first game but that's a huge exaggeration.
>>284567226
3rd is the biggest joke.
You have access to way too strong gear early on, monsters have really low HP and the exhaust mechanic fucks with them really hard too.
It doesnt compensate for a lack of Grank like Tri either.
Its by far the easiest MH game.
>>284567226
Because good hitboxes, no retarded charm tables and monsters that don't deal stupid amounts of damage in low rank is what passes for easy in the series.
>>284559427
I love the game dude, but I literally had to kill a diablos 21 times and capture it once just to make the armor set. Literally Why on some of these drop rates.
Was Purple Gypceros specially made to be a frustrating piece of shit?
Immunity to shock trap was the icing on the fucking cake.
>>284567381
And it's great.
>drop rates aren't frustratingly retarded
Oh are you sure? The 1% shit (up to 5% if you really work at it!) bullshit has to stop.
>>284567516
>rubber skin
>immune to thunder and shock
>>284567534
No.
The most boring game in the series.
>>284567516
Well it is made out of rubber and all.
I hate to be that guy, but I rather dislike Monster Hunter. When I was playing it, the game's controls just felt really uncomfortable and clunky compared to Dark Souls, Witcher, or Dragon's Dogma.
I honestly think MH could be a good game if it was a bit faster and not on the 3DS.
>>284567516
>Gypceros drops rubber hides
OH GEE WHY CAN'T I SHOCK IT
>>284567640
Nah, it's really fun and very well polished.
Didn't last as long as FU but I feel like I got twice the enjoyment out of it.
>>284567251
Killing Duramboros 48 times is not fun nor challenging. But hey, there's always the guy that kills shit with overpowered gear "for fun" in these threads, and tells it's okay if you get shat on by the drops and you can't progress with a weapon you invested so much time, forcing you to start again with another in the hope you won't get shafted another time. Unfortunately, I'm not him.
>>284567738
Couldve played 3U and gotten five times the enjoyment out of it.
Not only is it boring, its also redundant as shit now.
Worst MH.
>>284567102
I have high rank Volvi and Narga armor which give good evade skills but I feel like I'm reaching my limits at 5* guild quests. I have evolve because I heard something about using it to play MH online but I haven't really tried doing anything with it yet, I'll do some hunting with you if you're up for showing me how it works.
>>284566645
>Not even addressing the argument anymore
Right, so you're just a shitposter then. Good to know.
I just take exception to when faggots like you try to mislead the newbies.
>>284567130
>FPS
>same old kill enemies until you win
>RPG
>same old fuck men until you win
>RTS
>same old ancient korean secret until you win
see I can shitpost too
>>284567665
I disagree with the "faster" notion (did you even try the fast weapons?), but I agree that MH should be on literally any platform other than the 3DS. It doesn't even make great use of the 3D so there's no good reason to have it there. From a consumer standpoint anyway, I know why Capcom put it there. I'd even buy a Vita for MH if it came to that.
And I say this as a Nintendo fan
In expeditions, do battered weapons/armor only drop from mining the nodes in those areas where you find poogie/palicos?
Cuz I mine every spot I can, and they only drop in those areas
>>284563656
Anybody? I'm mostly wondering if it gets outclassed by anything soon after, considering it's technically a low rank armor.
>>284567796
>Killing Duramboros 48 times
doing it wrong.
>>284567919
The only other Handheld platforms available are phones and the Vita.
Vita's got a shit install base and is made by Sony, who fucked the MH team over on localization of P3rd.
Phones... might be a possibility, but I honestly wouldn't prefer them to the 3DS.
>>284567906
In all of those you don't have to kill something over and over to get some special kind of bear ass to upgrade your gear and get on with the game.
>>284568062
I've seen them ocassionally drop in other areas, but you mostly get them in those.
>>284567894
You have a hard time navigating past rocks that block your path. I don't really think you're in a position to call anyone a ''newbie.''
>>284568202
I hate playing games too.
>>284568272
You're the only one inferring that, mate. Nothing I've said has even suggested that I have difficulty navigating past them. All I've said is that you're a liar who is misinforming people as to how the game's mechanics work, and you're responding with ad hominem. Frankly it's pathetic.
Artillery god
Razor sharp
Guard +1/2
What else should GL need to add here?
>>284568062
They only drop from blue nodes, and blue nodes can be found anywhere. They're far more common in treasure areas though. Another good way is to beat high level double guild quests.
>>284568117
Alright, netting and breaking his tail, back and horns 48 times. Fuck you for reminding me.
>>284567919
I use a Longsword or Lance. Both are comparable to the slower weapons in Souls or DD. In general the game's pace was rather slow though. Monsters telegraphed their moves for way too long, the actual challenge was getting out of the massive hitboxes in time. Roll recovery also takes way too long for me and I find it comparable to the slowest rolls in Souls games, but it might just be because I'm used to and prefer faster rolls in other games.
>>284567919
>>284568173
In terms of systems, I think the game should've been on PS3/PS4/PSV/Wii U/PC since I know most people in Japan don't play on Microsoft systems.
>>284568421
thats pretty much it. A simple and not simple weapon
>>284568421
Load Up is basically a 1.2x buff to Full Burst on normal types and makes Wide types more bearable in general, especially for doing shelling-only runs.
>>284568271
Ok cool, I'll keep mining every spot I can thenlike my OCD would let me do the contrary anyways har har har
>>284568084
>low rank
just use your velocidrome armour and wait until HR
>monster kill counts in guild card a testament to how completely unfun this game can be at times
How do we fix the random drop model?
>>284568579
>full burst on wide types
>not spamming charged shots
>>284568538
most people in japan dont play on anything but the 3DS and mobile phones.
>>284567816
That's what I think about 3U. I played P3rd first since it logically came out before and 3U had very little new content to make it worth it.
had to play it on and off, in the end got 200 hours out of both titles.
Still a great game.
>>284568579
Okay, I'll try to work that in. Would load up make doing full discharges now worth it for wide shots?
>>284568202
>have to play the game to get rewards
how awful
>>284568630
Why should we?
Do you want to get everything instantly?
I'd also rather it come down to RNG than a "kill this monster 10 times to get enough points to buy a gem with" or something like that.
At least RNG means you're always excited to see the reward screen and carves
>>284568401
>You're the only one inferring that, mate.
I know. You keep responding anyway. I thought you have realized what's happening by now.
>>284568421
Sharpener or stamina maybe. Ease of life stuff anyways
>>284568669
But the 3DS wasn't made for games like this, at all. The touch screen makes no sense and the second thumbstick would've been invaluable.
>>284558016
>start using lance
>keep getting paired with teams of glaives, long swords, or charge blades
>tripping for days
and then I went back to gs
>>284556614
Thats literally against the point of the game.
>>284558016
This as well.
>>284568685
>That's what I think about 3U.
And that makes you stupid.
Even when playing 3U after 3rd anybody should be able to see that 3rd is a shit game.
Shit I'd most likely not play MH anymore if every game followed 3rds example.
Game's a fucking joke.
>>284568538
Most people in Japan prefer to play on Handhelds. Literally the reason it isn't on a console is because the Japanese simply don't buy it as much on consoles, which means that doing so would fuck over their profit real bad.
Due to the sheer number of people commuting and how long they spend doing it, it's the perfect game to take on the go since you're likely to find plenty of people playing it on the bus or train. It's also great for work breaks.
Also the Japanese prefer to play together in person instead of over the internet, and handheld gameplay supports that.
>>284567837
Tough luck. I don't even have it but I've felt like touching my old P3rd save lately.
>>284568834
The touch screen is great for UI changes.
And if you get a CPP you can play with your second thumbstick.
And dont even try to cry about it, the CPP is great.
The solution is right there.
The 3DS is better for these games than the PSP ever was.
>>284568759
>Why should we?
>>>monster kill counts in guild card a testament to how completely unfun this game can be at times
>I'd also rather it come down to RNG than a "kill this monster 10 times to get enough points to buy a gem with" or something like that.
But why not both?
Guaranteed drops that can be combined into rare items, plus the chance of obtaining rare item on its own.
>>284568710
Just keep using charge shots on your wide types, its literally the entirely point of the type
>>284568630
And break the foundations of the whole game, killing stuff over and over again while keeping people hooked in the vain hope they get their piece of monster for their gear? Just play with someone else.
>>284568668
I think you need to re-read that because what you said isn't even close to what I said.
>>284568710
Full bursts are never worth it for wide shots, ever, just like charged shots are never worth it for normal shots, ever.
>playing with random people
>ever
I can never deal with random people, it's either very very close friends of mine whom I hunt with or alone.I'm always hunting alone
I tried to get into MH, but I don't like the combat. I want MH with DMC/GH level of crazy.
>>284568880
>Even when playing 3U after 3rd anybody should be able to see that 3rd is a shit game.
Man, you're the stupid one here.
>>284569143
dual blades are pretty crazy
>>284568992
>>284569013
Ah okay. I'm only HR7, been using a gyrelance wide 3 with my current artillery god set. Holy shit those charge shots. I guess now I have a good idea of what to aim for.
Thanks. I love gunlances.
