>It's good with mods
A bad game can be made to suit one's tastes with mod, the same goes with good games. It doesn't matter what the "artist's vision" was. There's no corrupting of their original idea, for one because most games are the products of a group of people, and two because works of art can be built off each other. There's nothing wrong with modifying something to suit your tastes. Fucking everything that's man-made is subjective.
You made a shit thread, op. If you are going to argue something like this, be a little bit more eloquent with your argument.
Have any of you ever play video games with 4chan moderators?
I can never use mods that actually alter the gameplay or the story in any way. Graphical enhancements are alright, though.
>>284478934
Sometimes a modder's vision is better than the artists
>>284478934
Implying any substantial number of games has an "artistic vision" worth respecting.
Imagine what would happen if someone just came along and modded the Mona Lisa or some other famous painting. It would be amazing. It would be completely improved.
>>284478934
>I have no self control, so this is what will happen to any game I play that released a toolkit.
>>284478934
I don't see the problem
>>284478934
Some mods for some games undoubtedly make the vanilla game better, but on the whole mods are fucking dumb and only really good for a shits and giggles.
I'd take lesbian anime girls in my games any time of the day bro.
Also, mods can actually build upon the artist's original concept that may have been skewed, reworked or scrapped along the dev process.
Many game's had concept art with directions that never got into the game, that isn't inherently bad. Especially with consoles in the way.
Fuck retextures without any sense of artistic direction that are just high res photos slapped on with some normal maps. Those are the worst.
>>284479458
Then that modder should try luck working in videogames instead of doing mods for free.
>>284478934
No one is forcing you to install mods, and most 'artistic visions' poorly textured messes with shitty filters and blur thrown over them.
>>284479691
You know how much harder it is to make a whole videogame than it is to make a few modifications?
>>284479843
Yeah, mods are harder because you're messing with someone else's work. Making your own is easier.
>>284479975
lmao
>>284479975
Getting a job requires more than simply being good. These might be people who are only good at limited stuff or can't market themselves to studios. Or just hobbyists.
>>284479608
>Mona Lisa
>with gigantic anime boobs
>users shouldn't have tools to make thier own content, because the developers should be able to have a 5 year plan for dlc and an integrated cash shop
i agree with you OP, come work for me
>>284479608
>Mona Lisa
No game ever created comes even close to the Mona Lisa.
>>284480557
>Mona Lisa
>good
Not nearly cinematic enough and it lacks diversity
>>284479975
This guy.
Unless you're reverse engineering the most locked down game known to man, it's harder to make your own game.
Barring Unity and game/rpg maker MAYBE. Those are likely still going to be more work than a mod will be if not as complicated.
>>284478934
>implying
One of the coolest mods I have ever downloaded forSkyrimis a mod that brings back all the towns fromArena.
>>284478934
I kinda agree. Even most 'better texture' mods do this to some extent. In some cases they don't even enhance the original textures and just replace it with something else that looks better to them, ignoring the color scheme of that area and the entire game. The infamous Half Life 2 fern and bridges mod is a perfect example. Also this shit.
>>284479296
I guess recorded albums, bands and films aren't works have no artistic vision either.
>>284480817
Her head looks like a dick lel
>>284478934
Fuck off.
>>284480557
Go to any art school and you'll find at least a dozen students who could paint you up a copy of the mona lisa. They could even paint you a fresh portrait of someone else that would look far better and be far more accurate than the mona lisa.
Art is odd.
>>284480817
post more screenshots from that horrifying HL2 mod
>>284480817
What a dickhead.
>>284481371
I love Skyrim because you can mod the shit out of it but I hate it because it's Skyrim. Even if you polish a turd, it's still a turd which is a real fucking bummer because it's one of its kinda when it comes to modding.
Older TES games and Fallout games come close but their age shows. Especially the Fallout games have aged like month old milk. Here's to hoping Fallout 4 will be out this year and not a soulless at the core like Skyrim.
>>284481856
Gorgeous.
>>284478934
>only animu shit can come out of a modding community
>>284480817
>>284481856
What the fuck is it with the character models in this mod. Who the hell thought this looks good.
>>284482328
>implying it's not true
m8
>>284478934
I like both. Come at me.
>>284481014
>>284481903
>Bethesda game
>Not soulless to the core
You're a true dreamer.
>>284482328
Name the mod please? This just might make me want to play that game again.
Why should I give a shit about the original vision?
Pic related: the dope ass tropical Skyrim mod.
>>284482382
A 40 year old german virgin did. He also likes the Nolan Batmans
>>284482825
My eyes
>>284478934
STALKER series.
>>284478934
>skyrim weapons
>>284482974
Take it in, son. It's a thing of peerless beauty.
Take it in.
>>284482863
>not loving Nolan for his contribution to improving quality of 4chan
>>284481903
If anything there will be even less soul. They expect the modding community now. And if you can slap mods onto the ps4 and bone versions then that's it. They just won't try.
>>284478934
>even dealing with modders
They will fuck with your shit if they ever want to. They feel like they own you
http://www.serendipitymc.com/threads/open-letter-to-fireball1725.5318/
>>284483110
I'm talking about that eyecancer inducing chromatic aberration and CRT filter.
And that fucking saturation.
Jesus christ.
>>284482548
I'll m8 your m8, m8.
>>284482787
I'm using a metric shitton of them, but the ones hoofing most of the visuals are Enhanced Skies, UHQ Terrain Overhaul, NMC, WFO and SweetFX.
>>284482825
Post-processing aside, this doesn't look that bad
Mods made Skyrim playable, and for that I am thankful.
>>284483306
He's hoping it won't make my GTX 460 go up in smoke.
>>284482328
That's a nice bridge. Why can't the original game have bridges like that?
>>284483306
Why don't you try ReShade if you haven't liked ENB so far?
>>284483325
Not really, the idea is good but the execution is terrible. It's like coming out straight from PS1 graphic.
>>284483516
It does?
Did you even play the game or what.
>>284483516
That bridge is awful. It looks like shit. And brings back terrible memories of liberty prime.
>>284478934
>mods
>anime
Shouldn't it be pony or furry? There's always far more of that than anime mods.
>>284483946
anime is worse than ponies and furries
>>284483490
The only things that would kick your rig in the nuggets are the retextures, but both NMC and UHQ come with three packs, which include performance versions.
>>284483548
Because I'm scared of new things.
I'll try it either on the Tomb Raider reboot or one of the Asscreeds tonight. Is that 2033 or LL?
>>284484051
But there's barely any anime mods out there.
>>284478934
>Hating mods
That's about as shit taste as you can have.
Consoles would be great for you anon.
Simply eric
>>284483273
except after reading that for two minutes you can see they were selling the modders items on the server, and the EULA says otherwise.
>>284484061
That's The Order Last Light Redux.
>>284478934
>Skyrims entire fanbase
And trendy gamer gurlz
>>284484338
so? Thats up to mojang not the modder
>>284479975
Maybe if someone else's work wasn't intentionally held back by consoles, people wouldn't feel the need to try and get it up to it's potential.
>>284484384
I know the Order film-grain thing is part of a running gag, but that honestly does look kinda cool.
>>284484569
>mfw Skyrim is not about gaming anymore
>it's about who have better mods that have absolutely nothing to do with improving the gameplay at all
>>284484991
That's because I am a genius that can make things look good.
If it weren't for the gun...
Also it's not just grain, it's a tasteful mix of chromatic aberration, depth of field, color grading and soft vignetting and tonemapping.
>>284484338
you must be a nintendrone who defended the Youtube creator program
>>284484061
Thanks for the info.
>>284483282
You're just too picky
>>284478934
>>284485579
No, I'm not.
It's called taste.
I'm sorry to say that with a less strong CA and less saturation, that image would improve vastly. It's just a fact.
>>284480160
>Getting a job requires more than simply being good.
This, this, a thousand times this. We don't live in a meritocracy.
>>284484051
here's your reply
>>284480903
nice double negative there m8
>>284485652
>taste
Yeah, and your taste is too picky. You bumblefuck
>>284481856
BRIDGES AND FERNS
BRIDGES AND BRIDGES AND FERNS AND BRIDGES, AND BRIDGES AND FERNS!
>>284485691
I'd be screwed otherwise.
>>284485827
I'm not going to say I'm not.
I'm proud of it in fact.
There's nothing personnel, so don't take it so badly.
>trying to mod my obvion to make it as weeb as possible
>there are lots of character waifu mods but that's it
I was honestly dissapointed, all I could find was some poorly-made mod that apparently lets you play as Patchouli and shoot overpowered storms of bullets. There's probably a shitload of jap mods but I can;t into moon and they aren't on nexus. I thought that there would be loads of this stuff, I saw some screenshots of some WH40k version of FO3 and figured that modders put silly shit in games all the time.
Medieval based games are always the best for mods.
>>284485896
Nothing personal kid but chill out.
Mods can make a game playable, but the fact is that the game wasn't good because it needed mods. If a game's good it doesn't need mods, but having them is nice if they're done well. Skyrim is and always will be shit, specifically because it needs mods to become a good game.
>>284479631
>basically skyrim and fallout
>>284478934
More like:
Mod Community - EVERYONE IS NAKED SEX WOMEN
>>284478934
>Artist's vision
As an occasional draw/edit fag, that shit doesn't mater at all.
>>284486163
Skyrim and fallout 3 are dogshit without mods.
>>284478934
Literally the dumbest argument ever which makes no logical sense at all.
Great thread OP. Enjoy your 404. No ones dumb enough to fall for this.
Oh wait, this is neo/v/ now. See you in 400 posts.
>>284486260
The problem isn't that, it's that mods often completely break the consistency of the world with retextures that look totally out of place, models that look out of place and such.
I'm not talking about stuff like the Warhammer 40k mod for F3. I'm talking about sutff that's called Extreme HD Ultra HQ Terrain Overhaul 8k Textures, and then the textures are completely out of tone and have no consistency with the rest of the game and it ends up looking like an ugly frankenstein without any direction and consistency.
That's what it means with "artist's vision".
>>284486367
Oh, they're dogshit with mods.
A bad game can never be fixed with mods, a good game will always be fixed with mods.
>>284486680
*a good game will be enhanced with mods
If it's good it shouldn't need to be fixed.
>>284479208
Dekomori desu
>>284486598
Then don't install them?
>>284485284
>>284484384
>>284483548
can you post your shader
>>284486051
nailed it
>>284486680
I disagree. It really all comes down to how moddable the game is to begin with. Skyrim's able to be salvaged thanks to how easy it is to break it open and get inside.
Mass Effect however is a completely different monster because Bioware deliberately made it unmoddable because it "interfered with their vision" even though one of the first things I was going to do with ME2 was fucking restore the cut romance shit with Zaeed/Kasumi.
>>284478934
>STALKER
your argument is invalid
>>284486825
What's your point? Are you saying that a game shouldn't be able to be modded just because it's already good?
>>284486658
If you download shitty mods.
I'm playing a modded fallout 3 with a mod to remove the ugly green tint from everything, a mutant mod that adds more monsters and more random encounters in the wasteland, and a mod that makes the game harder, gives weight to ammo, adds a shit load of balanced guns, balances all the skills, adds a realistic medical system, adds hunger/sleep/thirst, etc.
Just because you load 43 different futa mods doesn't mean everyone fucks their games up.
>>284482825
That mod was cool.
>>284478934
>artist's vision
>autist's vision
Also "artist" sort of implies video games are art
>>284481014
you forgot the black bars
>>284478934
Why? Are the mods good team players? What games do they even play?
>>284486987
But I don't. I'm just saying that the argument has a reasoning behind it. I know it's all fine and cool to say "just don't install it". I've made mods, I've told people that. But the argument still stands, that many mods are not good due to the lack of proper direction.
>>284487025
Sorry m8, only available on PS4.https://mega.co.nz/#!soxQwThT!msI2TkWwce_9girj8efsx_LJJrcl4CmoAwOCNpNedbU
>>284487124
STALKER required mods to function. Artists vision is one thing, their ability to code a functioning game is another.
>>284487130
No, mod any game that you want all you like as long as it's possible. However, if the game's already good, all you can do is add to it with mods, not fix. Unless it's a buggy mess like fallout 1 and 2.
>>284478934
>artists vision
Where's the released ugly and gutted version that says "real end product"
>>284487175
Also:
Adds an option to use bullet time limited by your action points instead of VATS. VATS is fucking stupid considering you are playing a FPS. LET ME CHOOSE WHERE TO SHOOT THE ENEMY BY ACTUALLY SHOOTING THE ENEMY.
>>284487285
>STALKER required mods to function.
thats not true vanilla works just fine for all 3 games
>>284485691
Don't say that around Anita Sarkeesian.
>video games
>art
>>284486825
Have you ever posted something, looked back on it, and realized that you used the worst fucking wording possible? That's pretty much what I meant to say, though I don't agree with the idea that a game can be perfect.
For instance, I love Stalker, but I realize that the game is in many ways flawed. Through mods, you can change your experience through many ways, and improve the game to your liking.
>>284487123
Mod Skyrim all you want, it wont fix it's incredibly deep rooted flaws.
>>284478934
You forgot the bloom
>>284480557
You are a fucking simpleton.
The Mona Lisa isn't famous because it is good, it is famous because it was painted by fucking Da Vinchi and it was also stolen.
>>284487483
Congratulations. The same is not to be said the rest of the people to play the game.
>>284487285
I had vanilla work fine for all of them
There were tons of mods that change the game up completely, and ones that change the look of the game completely. There were no nude or anime girl mods I know of.
>>284487610
Yeah, I don't think sometimes. Sorry. I don't think games can be perfect either.
>>284487175
>>284487409
Why would you waste so much time and effort on making a bad game playable ? Just play a better at that point.
>>284480557
>her eyes follow you around the room. How is that even possiblee!!
>lulz what is her smile hidding
>there are secret musical sheets in her tits
fuck the mona lisa, da vinci did a thousand things more worthy of admiration
>>284487847
Not them but it is fun to mod games.
>>284487285
Nigger, I finished S.T.A.L.K.E.R vanilla, without mod, and without patch 'since patch was messing up with the savegames at first). I escaped the corrupted save death, I avoided the gamebreaking bugs and got the long ending. It wasn't as bad as the internet want you to believe. It was clunky, loading time were horribly messed up and froze from time to time, but it was playable.
>>284487654
Oh shit ! It almost looks good as Far Cry 1.
Post besttotal conversionmods.
>>284487847
Why do anything?
>>284486051
I got 200 hours out of Skyrim without mods, and another 200 hours with mods.
Never listen to /v/
>>284487686
>The same is not to be said the rest of the people to play the game.
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
>>284487847
It took me about an hour to get all the mods working. Not much effort. It is actually a really good game with the mods. Fixed pretty much every single one of my complaints I had the first time I played Fallout 3.
And I probably wouldn't be playing Fallout 3 but I decided to play through the entire series.
>>284487686
>>284487285
>He doesn't play his games vanilla at least once, then revisit with mods to appreciate the change it has made
I'm saddened that you'll never fully appreciate what mods like AMK do. It's how you really come to appreciate user communities. Even the saltiest console user can agree that fully functional mods on all systems would be a great thing.
>>284488105
yeah you should never listen to /v/ otherwise you you might get some fucking taste
>>284488230
BWAHAHAHAHA!!
>>284488105
I got bored within the first hour. I could say that you have different taste, but holy shit, the gameplay is so slow and the combat so unsatisfying compared to so many games it's unbearable. I don't know how people play it vannila unless they've never played any rpg before it.
>>284486051
You shouldn't choose a bad example like Skyrim simply because it's the most popular, with the biggest amount of shitty mods available. Tons of older games would be a nightmare without community patches and mods.
Why do anti-modder fags seem to think that an end user modding something somehow changes the master copy
>>284478934
I don't like total conversion, but many mods simply add some functionality (that sometime were promised during the development), correct bugs, or make things better in overall (Skyrim's enhanced journal system, that give quest a proper description, get rid of the gps magic markers, and so on). I like when it's small touches in line with the vanilla game feeling, but it's most definitely an awesome things as long as you sort the crap yourself.
>>284488230
I never understood why people on an anonymous imageboard are so concerned with something like "taste". You like what you like.
>>284488461
Because they don't have any real points to make.
>>284488230
>>284488348
>samefagging your own terrible post
>>284488461
They're just trolls dude.
>>284488437
shouldn't he be on a boat?
>>284488550
Full fucking retard
>>284488201
People play vanilla first, but immediately trash it in favor of all the mods that literally improves everything about the game from atmosphere to gameplay.
>>284488461
They're idiots.
I liked Skyfall.
How's Casino Royale?
>>284488348
>>284488550
i didnt mean neo /v/
>>284478934
Jagged Alliance 2 v1.13 mod bring back A LOT of stuff that were announced and got cut back, including changing weather, (with rain, storm and so on), add decent militia control and proper suppression fire. It add a layer a tactics and that's in line whit what the dev wanted at first. So get fucked, op.
Fuck you Bamco, I'm not going to pay for the same game twice..
>>284480903
Music is generally made with less people unless it's like top 40 stuff with 20 writers and 20 producers. And even then that's less than most AAA games.
If you're a solo artist that writes your own stuff that's 1 person plus a producer and maybe a handful of other people. And band would be ~4 people doing the creative stuff with the producer (assuming the solo artist/band doesn't produce the album themselves) and that same handful of people doing other things that aren't related to the creative process.
>>284479975
Making mods is piss easy if you have the tools. Never mind if you actually have mod support.
>>284488432
I never said all good games didn't need mods, but they shouldn't unless it's buggy anyway.
>>284488592
not cool.
>>284488858
They're easy, but the process can be tedious as hell. Have you ever worked with the GECK?
>>284488426
Different taste, dawg.
I also have
270 hours in Dark Souls
187 hours in Dark Souls 2
174 hours in Divinity Original Sin
137 hours in XCom EU
>>284488164
would you kindly give links to your mods/load order or whatever anon? it sounds pretty fucking awesome and I have just finished vanilla Fallout 3.
>>284482825
Also known as the "hundreds of parrots flying through the ground" mod
>>284488691
Holy shit, that's even worse.
Samefagging would just be a faggoty thing to do, but you're a full on retard.
>>284488893
get back to the boat guts
its gonna be a very long journey
>>284478934
I only use mods on games i don't take seriously.
Like in skyrim, 5 hours in and i'm so fucking bore of the same quests over and over. So i just install some waifu mods and stupid miscellaneous ones to make the game ridiculous and fun
>>284485063
You faggots are completely ignoring the oc mods, like total conversions.
Killing floor was originally a mod. Counter strike was a mod. Counter strike and killing floor have both added custom maps (mods) to the game as official content because they are just that good.
Fuck that anime shit, that's faggot tier mods. There's better shit than that. Look at what's come out of the half life and stalker modding community and any other PC game ever.
>>284488739
Casino Royale is the best of Craig's films
>>284489259
You think maybe you're installing the wrong kind of mods?
>>284487592
>White girl pissing in a museum
>Art.
If someone smearing vaginal blood is art, then videogames are art.
>>284485939
Skyrim has more animu mods, there's some mod that basically turns you into Gilgamesh, pretty sure it's just called unlimited blade works too
>>284478934
>Artists vision
You better not be talking about any bethesda game, faggot.
>>284488105
>>284488348
I don't think that game has 200 hours of content. You sound like an angry baby. Skyrim is a very flawed game and it gets repetitive really fast, and mods improve on it a lot. A lot of other people pointed this out when Skyrim came out. It's not a case of "vee is so elteetist but im all about enjoying video gayms". This "never listen to /v/" shit is kindergarten level shit. Nobody told you to "listen to /v/".
>>284488461
Because only stupid people have a problem with mods.
My dream is to have the skate series come to PC with mod support.
You guys are stupid.
>>284489418
I also changed a lot of the gameplay, but the game was shit anyway
>>284488461
>>284488530
>>284488562
>>284488715
>>284489558
>Everything has to be a pro vs anti debate
Nobody is shtting on the concept of mods or modability, you fucking retards. People are just pointing out that most modders have no idea what they're doing.
>>284489521
Only one of the people you're quoting is me.
Skyrim easily has 200 hours if you do multiple playthroughs and mess around trying stuff like pacifist runs.
>Nobody told you to "listen to /v/".
I fucking wish. /v/ is obsessed with it's idea of hivemind quality assessment. People here like to pretend that 4chan is openminded, where you can say anything you want, but people are fucking brainwashed by the retarded-ass /v/ culture. It's why you get shit like the dude who commented
>I want to laugh at this but I'm not sure if it came from reddit
Because /v/ is more concerned with maintaining the hivemind than with having fun
>>284489521
I agree there isn't even 200 hours of gameplay.
If you do all the quest lines knowing what to do but not speedrunner tier you can beat
Main quest
DB quest
Thieves quest
Mage quest
Companions quest
In about 6 hours or so I'd wager. The two worth it DLCs, Dawnguard and Dragonborn, about an hour a piece.
That being said, mods add way more replayability to skyrim than anything the devs could have shit out.
>>284489371
I may hate the game, but DOTA was originally a mod as well.
>>284490384
same shit
>>284490310
If you say so.
>>284488739
bretty good, but I think Skyfall was ahead of it by at least three steps
you should watch this if you want to see a better movie
>>284490461
>If you do all the quest lines knowing what to do but not speedrunner tier you can beat
>Main quest
>DB quest
>Thieves quest
>Mage quest
>Companions quest
>In about 6 hours or so I'd wager.
No fucking way, dude.
>>284490438
This is true on so many levels.
Look at how many times people shit on this board laughing at shit like "leddit" and lolmemes, but these are the same fucks who shit on everything and constantly spout /v/'s flavor of the month memes like "cuck" and "austism" and all the other bullshit they like to call out but spew themselves just the same.
This board literally has the worse users on 4chan. I honestly just wish the admins made a board called /v2/ and anyone who shitposts or uses memes of the month gets banned and sent back to /v/. /v/ is just like /po/ and there should be a containment board for all these faggots.
>>284489371
>not wanting touhous in killing floor
>>284488817
what mod
>>284490438
>>284490991
Yeah, because there is a guy in your room with a gun who forces you to follow the "hivemind". If you have an opinion that's considered controversial here just defend it.
>>284490461
>in about 6 hours
Damn son, why lie
>>284478934
modding games is like using a film making program to insert your own scenes and effects into 12 Years A Slave or Terminator 2 or Harold and Maude and then uploading it online
>>284490991
At least autism has a place and a meaning that might fit here. The whole cucking thing has lost all meaning already and is just getting retarded now that even m00t if fucking gone.
>>284491565
Video games aren't movies despite what AAA studios would lead you to believe.
>>284491565
Yeah, in the sense that the only people who would get mad at it are retarded since the original still exists.
>>284491510
No point in defending something controversial because if it is against the hivemind, no one will concede your point, even if it makes sense logically. Instead people will either
Shitpost
>implying implications
Spout flavor of the month memes
That is why i'm pretty sure the average age of the users on /v/ is around 16.
>>284491565
Only on /v/ will you read analogies this bad.
>>284490461
>6 hours
You are full of shit.
>>284491565
modding is more like getting popcorn for that movie
or getting a blow job while you watch the movie
or getting a bluray of your fav movie
or getting a new surround sound system for movie wathcing
>>284491565
Is there a term for the idea that it takes less energy for a complete idiot to spout utter nonsense than the energy required to refute their bullshit?
This shit is poorly balanced, a dumbass just has to say the first retarded thought that enters his head and if I don't carefully construct and argument refuting every stupid thing they say then eventually I will just drown in a tidal wave of shit.
>>284491742
of course they aren't, but it's still a valid comparison dummy, why don't they teach the kids about analogies anymore?
>>284491565
Can be used for good or evil.
>>284491906
it's a great analogy, it's a 1:1 comparison, do better or go to sleep Eric
>>284491026
You only want your precious tohos in other games because you're too much of a scrub to beat the actual touhou games.
>>284491943
yes, that term is laziness
>>284492114
Adding new scenes in a movie would be like adding additional cutscenes into a video game. Which most mods don't unless they're a total conversion mod. And a total conversion mod would be like making an entirely new movie out of the pieces of an existing movie. Which I don't think would really be possible, or at least it would be shitty.
>>284481903
>Some of the best WRPGs ever made have aged like month old milk
>Not the shitty Ultima rip off
I modded my TR to feel like a playable cinematic experience, it's not too bad
>The only mods that exist are anime waifus and Randy Savage dragons
>Because I say so.
>Morrowind is much better with shit render-distance and tons of bugs!
modding a game is like adding extra content and features that suit your taste and make the game more enjoyable for you without necessarily ruining the creator's vision unless you want to
>>284492363
You really need to re-evaluate your experience in WRPGs if you honestly think anything bethesda makes is high quality.
>>284492367
>no film grain
>>284481062
No they could not. Schools don't teach the old techniques anymore.
>>284491998
>but it's still a valid comparison dummy
No it isn't
It is in no way similar, at all.
>>284492660
That isn't an original, you know.
>>284482863
Get this hothead outta here!
>>284488991
Yeah, and honestly it isn't THAT bad. It's buggy, it's clunky, it need tons of workaround, but it's easy enough to make decent mods in term of size and complexity. It really shows its limit when you try to make really big, complex, deep moid with full of scripts, branching and code, though. But building some building, adding some simple quest, pnj, object, modifying spell effect and such is fine, compared to some other tools. It's entry level editor, but at least it's kinda user friendly, since everything is comprehensible just by reading what's on screen.
>>284492660
I gotta admit anon. That's a pretty damning example against mods even if I enjoy the fuck out of them,
That poor fucking mauser 98. It deserved better.
>>284478934
>You can't pick what mods you use
>>284492934
Except modding doesn't irrevocably change the original
>>284479296
>Basic arithmetic is man made
>subjective
>>284492934
>That's a pretty damning example against mods
Mods don't change the base game and can be removed easily.
The rifle with the stupid paintjob is about as convincing as the 'pirating a ham' images.
>>284493080
>tfw have to download another rifle if you mess up the custom paint job
>>284492934
That was an object that can't be replicated. A game is something you can reinstall and it'll be the exact same as the first time.
>>284493080
But that isn't necessarily true in that anon's example.
For all we know that anon bought a cracked and damaged stock and painted it just to troll the internet before putting back on the original unmolested stock.
Either way it is a shitty mod to the majority of people and shows that mods are not always good.
>>284492367
I think it's silly when developers are trying to go for a "cinematic experience" but the story itself is shit. If that's what you're trying to make us focus on, then why didn't you invest more time into the writing? And bring the writers into the project early on and make the gameplay serve the story please.
>>284478934
>still no KoTH survivors for Left 4 Dead 2
>still no Yuru Yuri survivors either
>not even a good Rin and Len mod
>>284492595
Modding got me maaaaaany more hours out of this piece of shit game
>>284478934
Well, it is.
>>284478934
>video games
>art
>>284493335
Can you give us an example?
If you're talking about tomb raider, I don't think it had the worst story but there is no way the game is fun enough for a second play through even with mods.
>>284492595
>No DoF
>>284493328
>shows that mods are not always good
No fucking shit, lets have a round of applause for captain obvious, here
>>284493675
Don't forget lense flares
Rome 2 looks better with DeI and Gem
>>284487175
>implying 43 futa mods would fuck the game up.
All your mods sounded fine til you said weight to ammo. Im playing new vegas on hardcore and very hard, and its not even hard, its just tedious with all this inventory management I have to do cause my ammo weighs 300 lbs.
>>284492660
>>284492934
>Modding a game is the same as painting a rifle.
This is the same level of stupidity as all the stealing a car = pirating a game analogies.
>>284493752
How could I forget those.
>>284492124
What if I play 2hu and play other games with 2hu mods?
>>284492114
It's a shitty analogy. Modding rarely add content, or rarely enough to have a significant impact on the story. Look at most popular mod categories (outside porn) :
>Fixing bug
>Introducing feature, some of them being cut content
>Making things harders / less casuals (or sometime the contrary with cheat mods)
>Graphics mods
>Add some minors cool locations or cool item
I'm betting that less than 1% of the mod actually introduce big quest or story. Very few of them actually destroy the story of the game or heavily shit on the lore. Of course, there's always the retarded stuff like Loli japanese guro content, and the robot ninja mod in a mediaval games, but that's just a loud minority. It tends to be more present on the late life of the gamer, though, when regular player have moved to another game, while the only playerbase that's left is autistic weebs that still mod their waifu after 4 years.
>Using an ENB that adds black bars
>>284494127
the perfect gaming experience
>>284493230
You know you would pirate a ham too, anon. You know you would download that succulent, salty ham if you had the chance.
>>284494127
Please include your frames per second, friend.
