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> gamers have a bad reputation, let's fix it!
> how you ask
> by stopping complaining
> by being more inclusive
> by being accepting of easier and shorter games
> by focusing on nonviolent games
> by making gaming in with the cool kids
> by truly making it an art form

Holy shit what the fuck is going on with my hobby? It's like we're Romans with barbarians at the gates but with no Caesar to lead us.

http://pastebin.com/kk2WFFQK
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At least it says OPINION right there
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#gamergate
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Once the babyboomers die out, there will be no reputation problem.
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>Want to improve the reputation of gaming and gamers?

no
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>>283962937

Or, I can just ignore all you shit for brains and play video games

???
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>>283963258

> labeling a piece as opinion gives you free reign to blast your shit everywhere
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>>283962937

>Zoophiles have a bad reputation, let's fix it!
>how you ask
>by stop complaining
>by being more inclusive
>by being accepting of our preferences
>by focusing on nonviolent activities
>by making bestiality in with the cool kids
>by truly making it an art form
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>>283963703
Hey /v/ does it all the time.
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>>283962937
Fix the rep they destroyed, no thanks
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>art form
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How about we stop caring what other people think of us like we're out of goddamn high school?
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>>283962937
>see you soon at a street party
>plays the ukulele

i smell a femdora
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>>283962937
>It's like we're Romans with barbarians at the gates but with no Caesar to lead us.
If only. The reality is much, much worse.


“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

― Marcus Tullius Cicero

They killed Rome, they are killing the west, and now they are going to kill vidya.
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>>283962937
Why would anyone want to improve the reputation of gaming?
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>>283963703
>You're not allowed to have an opinion I don't like.
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>>283963972

> femdora

Plz no
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Yes, let's listen to the people who ruined our reputation on how to fix our reputation.

The people who don't speak for us want to speak for us again.
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>>283964236
did i trigger you?
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Just join the weeb side now. You'll be safe forever.
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>>283964102
tha would increase the audience and that means more clicks
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>>283964194
You can, and i can shit on it.
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>>283962937
Thanks Law and Order for making gaming unpopular with hipster progressive faggots again. Hopefully they stay away for good this time.
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>>283964039
Rome died for lots of reasons.
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>>283964102
So more chicks will play games and maybe we can get girlfriends!

Its a normie thing.
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>When Anita Sarkeesian started her Tropes vs. Women series in 2009, she went on to make many videos that addressed sexist tropes in books, TV, movies and toys. None of those groups saw her as a threat to their mediums
Tell that to /tv/
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>>283963963
/Thread

That's all that needs to be said.
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>>283962937

Why do video games have to be a hugbox, why can't we have fun flaming each other? There's nothing in real life that allows us to get away with it, video games is one of the only venues for pent up frustration that we experience with our shitty lives.
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>>283963751
One of those points should be
>by stop being zoophiles
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>>283962937
>by truly making it an art form
>through censoring and banning the shit out of anything deemed offensives by spineless reviewers

I'm not going out of my way to fix shit for public perception until the industry sorts it's own fuckery out.
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>mfw GG killed 4chan and the gaming press

Cancer cures cancer.
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>>283964443
>wanting a gf who plays vidya

the most undesirable people on earth even moreso than us
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>journos still not taking fucking responsability
I can't care less about the reputation of gaming, it only affect them, not us, not matter how hard they try they are always gonna be a buch of bloggers and not the "art critics" they want to be.
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>have used /v/ since 2007
>hate anime & weeb shit
>always argue with stupid weebs who think it's okay to post and discuss anime on /v/
>they try to come up with this argument of "why come to 4chan if you hate anime?"
>tell the manchildren it's because the site started out with anime and expanded, that is why we have so many boards besides anime
>tell them the biggest attraction to 4chan has been low filtered anonymous posting, not what you perceive as Japanese culture
>this is how I and many other anime haters justify using 4chan, and rightfully so

Fast forward today in gaming:
>many feminists & SJW in gaming who hate so many aspects of gaming but want to be here
>ask myself "why the fuck get involved with gaming if you hate a large aspect of it?"
>actually get to know some of these SJW/feminist type people in real life, especially the ones in gaming. Also talked to some on twitter
>have a better understanding of where they are coming from now
>realize I can relate with them, because of he weeb anime parasites I share a board with

This is how I became tolerant of feminists/SJW in gaming, I actually support many of their ideas and opinions now.
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>>283964381
It was too multicultural for it's own good.
>I'm sure these barbarians will enrich our society and uphold Roman values. Let's fill our army with them.
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>>283962937
Expecting less, criticizing less, accepting laziness and being "more inclusive", which is code for giving up standards, are the antithesis of art.
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Improving gaming's reputation is what got us into this shitty situation in the first place.
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What is it with people and thinking that gamers are all about violent video games? Just because those are the most advertised does not mean that's all there is
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>>283964310
>Buy Arcana Heart's 3 for 6 dollars
>test out a few characters
>almost all the victory speeches at the end are friendly and nice to their opponent

That felt nice.
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>>283964676
2/10 best i can do
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>no Caesar to lead us
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>You may not personally enjoy Gone Home, but it’s excellent PR as an example of how games can explore small, personal stories in addition to epic theatrical ones

is this faggot fucking serious?

>you should convince people that videogame are cool
>by making them play a barely interactive novel about lesbians
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>>283963703
>>labeling a piece as opinion gives you free reign to blast your shit everywhere
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>>283964753
why is Ms. Eyebrows so cute
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>>283964742

SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO KILL OR BE SLAUGHTERED
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>>283964778
I just wish he'd stop holding back. You can tell he wants to go full out but he has to constantly hide his powerlevel. Guess I can't blame him since it's his career and all but shit.
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>>283964676
Nice blog
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>>283962937
>> by focusing on nonviolent games

What's wrong with violent games? Was it written by a christian mother or something? Fucking hell
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>>283962937

>A bunch of women and white beta fucks keep publicizing women are being harassed, that they should stop being harassed, and then comlpain 2 months later that they're being harassed even harder

Like seriously, it's a mentally retarded cycle these people keep feeding themselves.

I've been sitting here all my life and I've never sent a mean "tweet" to anyone, like fucking shit what am I suppose to be, not sign up for twitter with more effort?
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>>283964676
your pasta is a bit overcooked
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>Gamers have a bad reputation! Let's fix it!
>Same fucking blog that started the 'gamer' bashing campaign
Top fucking kek
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>How to fix something
>Don't question anything and just accept everything
Okay.
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>>283964971
He called out Ben on the co-optional podcast.

He also got pretty heated
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>>283962937
>It's like we're Romans with barbarians at the gates but with no Caesar to lead us.
no
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>>283964883
She was genetically engineered to be cute and pure.
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>>283964778
God he is so gross
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>>283965034
Because violence is icky

Not like there's violence in a vast majority of the other mediums or anything...
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>>283964971
I think most of his videos where he actually talks about vidya is pretty shit, he complains about pretty minor things and makes them seem a lot more extreme than they are.

With that being said, he is completely spot on with his criticism of the media and devs in general. He calls people out on their bullshit and isn't afraid to do it, either. Even if it means autism lords threaten to literally murder his ass or they just spam the shit out of his Twitter.
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>GAMERS ARE TERRORISTS FOR BEING MEAN TO WOMEN
>SVU comes out with a GG episode and now even devs are gunning for Journo throats
>W-W-WELL HERE'S HOW YOU CAN FIX THE REPUTATION OF GAMERS
>MFW Faggots actually thought GG wouldn't work
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>>283962937
Do you play games?

You really should because being a gamer is not just about the pleasures of AAA titles and the importance of trends
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Why is it not ok for men and women to be different? Why does the fiction police want everything to be a giant homogenous blob?
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>>283962937
>Claire Hosking is a grad architect and illustrator interested in digital architecture, procedural art, robots and feminism.
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Constantly begging people to take your hobby seriously is the biggest tell that people shouldn't take your hobby seriously. It stinks of immaturity and desperation, like a 10-year old in the throes of a tantrum because his seat is still at the kids' table.

It seems like just about everyone has a game console of some sort in the living room now; the days of not being "accepted" by normal humans are long gone. But there are a few old dudes who don't care, so the game press dance around like baffoons posturing as experts while convincing no one.

Begging the world to take gaming seriously is a fruitless endeavor. It won't advance gaming in any way, it won't make games better. It will just (possibly) inflate the salaries of people who write about games.

For the rest of us, the best way to make games better is to buy good games, which will encourage the production of more good games. It's a simple equation that costs no dignity.
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>>283964694
More like nobody paying their taxes and everybody flocking to the country due to economical crisis (caused by people flocking to the country to not pay their taxes), the barbarians simply took advantage of the weakened rome.
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How do you join isis?
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>>283962937
The second you think that everyone who plays videogames are part of some group with all encompassing characteristics is the second you've gone full retard.
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>>283965174

NEVER FEAR

THE TEACHINGS OF Erik Kain of Forbes ARE THE WAY TO PRESERVE /v/ CULTURE, HERITAGE, AND FUTURE
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>>283962937
>OBEY CONSUME SUBMIT SERVE SUBMIT!
>REBELLION WILL NOT BE TOLERATED
>OBEY, DO NOT HIDE VIRAL THREADS
>VIRAL THREADS ARE GOD, YOU NEED THESE
>OBEY SUBMIT POST IN VIRAL THREADS
>OBEY CLICK ON KOTAKU
Fuck off viral shills.
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>>283962937
Inb4 someone cries Goobergaber or some stupid shit
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>>283965582

There is no culture here because the culture is always changing, fuck off.
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>>283962937
>> by stopping complaining
Appease our overlords/sponsors and just bite the pillow already, dlc isnt bad goyim.
>> by being more inclusive
Let us have our circlejerk already. You need to be tolerant and support diversity by all acting as we say.
We also want the wider audience.
>> by being accepting of easier and shorter games
Again, please suck my sponsors cock, I have starbucks to buy.
>> by focusing on nonviolent games
We want the wider audience.
>> by making gaming in with the cool kids
We want gaming to be more popular, so we get more power as the shitty gaming media.
>> by truly making it an art form
Please validate my life, girls wont sleep with me (aside from one who had purple hair) because they laugh and call me a glorified blogger.


>Want to improve the reputation of gaming and gamers? This is how you start.
Want to be manipulated into fellating me and contributing to cancer? This is how you start.

Seriously, just look how self serving this bullshit it.

Complaining or hating short/easy games doesnt make us look bad. The only thing the rest of media whines about is the violence.
>Your son may be a school chooter if he keeps playinf these hard games.
No.
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>>283962937
>the fairly neutral perception of books, films, paintings and dance
You lost me
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They only want to bring in more outsiders because those new to gaming are naive to the shit pulled by the industry and "journalists" and will swallow any load, be it jizz or shit, that they're given.
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>>283965582
Erik Kain is a great journalist, to be honest. I really like his articles and he is the only journo I follow. Everyone else is pretty shit.
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>>283964694
/pol/ please
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>>283962937
> It's like we're Romans with barbarians at the gates
Actually, it's more like we're Romans and we're being guilted into giving up our old gods and accepting catholisism.
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>>283965746

That's the joke you dumb faggot.
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>>283964676
>Puts on Flannel
>Puts on on dirty second hand sports coat
>Puts on fedora then tips it
>"Hey all you faggots! I'm so much better than you because I hate ANIME!"

We get it. You're a tryhard cunt who loves that he gets along with SJWs. Now piss off and let us get back to our shitposting.
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>>283965538
You go to egypt and then talk with the priests of the temple, why do you ask?
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Why can't vidya just be about having fun? I remember the sky used to be the limit, then people grew concerned about people's "feelings" like that matters.

I want a Concentration Camp Simulator game where I can run my camp like a city in SimCity, but it'll never happen now.

I want a game where I can murder civilians without getting a game over in war games, but it'll never happen.

Why the fuck do people's feelings matter in VIDEO GAMES? They were always just supposed to be about fun, if you don't like or believe in something a game advertises then why should the game not be allowed to come out at all? Why not just avoid playing it?
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>>283965530
Man, that sounds awfully familiar to a certain modern country.
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>>283966097

>I want a Concentration Camp Simulator game where I can run my camp like a city in SimCity, but it'll never happen now.

>I want a game where I can murder civilians without getting a game over in war games, but it'll never happen.

that's why modding communities exist you mong. Both of the things you want are out there as mods because no developer has the balls to invest time and money into a game only a few autists want, but there's plenty of basement-dwellers with coding talent willing to cater to you.
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>>283966143

Every single white country.
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>>283962937
I thought these were the same people that said all gamers are horrible people.
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>>283962937
by stop smelling like a fucking dumpster you autists
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>>283966097
creativeness began to die after the ps1

when development costs soared and people stopped taking risks

now it costs tens of millions to make a game and business men dont play games
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>>283963703
Well yeah, you can, this is a free country
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>>283966097
>I want a Concentration Camp Simulator game where I can run my camp like a city in SimCity, but it'll never happen now.
It would never have happened
>I want a game where I can murder civilians without getting a game over in war games, but it'll never happen.
How do you not know about Grand Theft Auto?
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>>283963703
Yes, yes it does. As long as you don't try to spread misinformation in earnest, you are allowed an opinion, it's just a shitty opinion and nobody take it seriously
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>>283962937
>no Caesar to lead us
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>gaming still under attack by people who don't even care about playing video games

Great.

Being more inclusive? Okay, that's great. Fine. Whatever. More female players, developers, and characters? Wonderful.

But pushing for easier and shorter games, bitching about violence, and this "art form" garbage? Fuck the hell off. I like long and difficult games. So does anyone who actually plays video games as a regular pastime. I like action games which are almost necessarily violent. It's just a preference, not a crime.

And I'd love it if games were taken as seriously as film and other "art forms" but promoting games as art often just means promoting a lack of focus on gameplay, in favor of "story" and other shit to pander to non-gamers who wouldn't even care if the gameplay were removed entirely. Most developers still haven't figured out that GOOD GAME DESIGN is an art form, and instead focus on visuals and a mediocre story to fill that "art" requirement. If your game would not suffer from the removal of gameplay, it might as well be a movie, and yeah it might be "art" but it's a shitty example of the "video game as art" and shouldn't be what the industry strives for.

If you want games to be art, look at Tetris, not The Order 1886. Video games will never be recognized as an art form if the way to make them more like art is to make them less like games.
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>>283966458
GTA isn't a war game.
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>>283965921
Only they werent gulted into that, you idiot.
People coverted because the emporer did, and they were all just sheep following him along.

Secondly Rome THRIVED due to Catholocism. Aside from giving them a seat of power (Pope) it also allowed them to export their culture.
Thats why we have Roman Catholics. Biggest religious group there is, and as the name implies heavily influenced by Romans, like Christianity and the west in general.

Catholocism was a great way to get everyone to copy Rome and make marriages monogamous and hetrosexual, even barbarians copied them eventually.
Based Rome.
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>>283966314
Why should developers fear making fun games? If you take offence to a concentration camp game, or civilians dying, why do you have the right to stop people from enjoying them? Because you cry? Just don't play them if you don't like them, they are just game meant to be a good time.

>>283966421
That is completely false. More than half of the budget given to AAA titles go to advertising. Maybe if they didn't worry so much about selling they wouldn't be so expensive in the first place. Advertising is piss easy these days, there are so many websites that spotlight games they believe to be underplayed that the need for spending money on advertisement is basically gone at this point.
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>forget about ethics
>need more women
>you're a misogynist
Sums it right.
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>>283966605
I misread, but that just leads me to asking why would you want to kill civilians in a war game you edge lord?
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What makes me angry is that these commies/Jews/SJW/dogs want to boot us out of the picture, even though it was we who're the ones who got videos games to where they are today.

It's like Europe. The commies/who ever want to take Europe from Europeans and give it away to others such as the boat people.
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>>283965728
HUEHUEHUE GOOBERGA-Awww
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>>283966947
That wasn't even my post you fucking idiot.
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