Are video games art?
Not all of them. Only a certain few, and these generally are not popular titlesAnd no, your precious indie bullshit doesn't inherently count as art. Get some perspective
>>276966828
if you think so, anon
>>276966828
>Posting only part of that pic
if you'll excuse me, me and my boner need to go now
yes cuz everything can be art
No. Unless they're explicitly designed to be so, at which point they're not a game because they're trying to be art, and not a game.
The two can't exist simultaneously. Fez is a great example. It's not a video game. No skill, no technical requirements on the end of the player, it's all about just going through the motions, it just as well could have been a twenty minute flash movie about dumb hat faggot collecting cubes.
>>276966828
Yes, but /v/ will equate art to pretentiousness because it's the only form of art they've ever paid attention to
>>276967671
>The two can't exist simultaneously.
because...?
>>276966828
sauce nao
Why is Ishikei so based?
>>276967890
>not knowing this artist
Is this your first time on 4chan
>>276966828
Yes
But it doesn't fucking matter and I wish this debate would die. Anyone who has ever seriously argued over whether something is or isn't art should shoot themselves
Also does she have a dick OP?
>>276967928
He is not, all his art is the same
>>276967994
Just post the sad panda link please.
>>276967890http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=387240
>>276968141
>An artists art has the same style
say it ain't so anon.
>>276966828
>Not all of them.
Something doesn't have to be good to be art, anon.
And the fact that people think being art is a status symbol is fucking laughable.
>>276968160
>>>/h/
fixed that for you
>>276966828
Are you actually trying to start a tired conversation amongst uneducated idiots, or are you gonna man up and dump some porn?
>>276966828
Is there a name for this? Girls squeezing a bottle of miracle whip while naked?
as much as movies and music are
>>276968297
>someone else's dick
dropped
>>276967671
>the two can't exist simultaneously
>>276968368
not all pigment on paper is art either.
off topic, ghostly swim 1 and 2 are really good
perfect music to jam to while playing games
Honest question:_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________who cares?
>>276966828
Art is the ultimate buzzword. It's subjective, which is a nice way of saying that it is objectively meaningless.
>>276968445
>hip-to-be-a-fucking-queer-that-suck-SJW-cuck-train
>>276967869
If they're making a game with the end-goal being art, it's not a game, it's an attempt at being art.
If they're making a game, and it happens to be received as art, it's not art, it's a fucking video game.
The developer has total control of this. What's hard to understand?
>>276968675
Pretentious hipsters who want to be taken seriously as critics, artists, and connoisseurs. Artistic integrity is knowing you won't be respected but doing something anyway.
>>276968675
there are two kinds of people in the world: the ones that tries to define art and the ones that enjoy it.
glad to see you choose the right side dude.
>>276968445
>dickgirls
dumb fetish
>>276968740
>this medium can't be used to create art
Not understanding the reasoning here.
Art is nothing more than a human expression made to be observed/listened/played etc. So yeah, they're art.
Even if you're some asshole who thinks video games can never be art, the fact is that video games are comprised of several layers of other types of art people widely accept as art. It involves making music, drawing, animating, voice acting, writing, blocking, etc etc. All of these things an art unto their own and combined they continue to make art; they do not magically stop being art once combined. To suggest this would also suggest that film is not art because it's collaborative, and suggesting that is retarded.
Ishikei hasn't made anything in forever.
>>276968740
You didn't answer my question. Why would you think being art and being a video game are two mutually exclusive things?
>>276968740
You're doing a poor job of conveying your point. Maybe it's just the delivery, but what I'm reading is, "something can't be art unless it was intended to be art", which is very wrong.
Video games are a medium - something from which art can be created.
>>276968675
People who can't properly enjoy something without being able to seek validation from others first.
When you defend shitty games and shitty design decisions because ART you know your playing a shitty game and you need to get some perspective
Gone homo was so bad and sad
>>276968934
I think art debt are dumb but I respect your post and thank you for making it.
>>276968534
By which definition?
>>276969383
I'm not him but I love you both
>>276966828
You know what's art? A video game that is actually, genuinely art?
Ikaruga.
See, art isn't about story or graphics or shit like that. Not for video games. The key thing for a video game is gameplay, and in that regard, Ikaruga is perfect.
>>276969358
>Gone Home
>video game
>>276969383
>debate
Windows Phone autocorrect is shit
>>276966828
Whether or not something CAN be considered artistic is irrelevant. Thanks to modern art anything could be considered "art" for the sake of the discussion. So, the short answer is yes. The long answer is that's a stupid question that underlines a fundamental misunderstanding of what "art" is in most contexts.
A real question would be is game X "good" art or not. If you can even ask the question "are video games art" I can guarantee you've had little to no contact with art academically or otherwise and have a skewed or outright personally fabricated understanding of the word.
>>276969583
Insert phone [HERE] is shit.
Doesn't matter if it's iFuck, Andick or Microdick phone
>>276969383
>>276969583
>>276969564
I'm not much for debating usually, but I figure it's the easiest way to break it down for people.I love you both. Merry Christmas, anons.
>>276968934
The video game aspect of a video game, as in the gameplay, is more of a simulation of a puzzle or competition. You wouldn't call a game of soccer art, nor would you call solving a problem art. Cutscenes and dialogue are art, but the gameplay, the most integral part of a game, is not.
>>276969918
Sure it is. It's the way in which you're interacting with the medium. No different than eyeing a book of film, or listening to a song.
Making compelling and interesting gameplay is an art unto itself, because games can certainly contain varying qualities of gameplay.
>>276967890chrome://mega/content/secure.html#!iBgSiIZS!O8gxnHgoVPd30wkVfGCCB0jaNN_49ft-S9IH9JwMR7s
Almost everything of Ishikei.
>>276969918
>you wouldn't call a game of soccer art
>you wouldn't call a game of sports art
>>276966828
Is that cum or is that breastmilkPlease say breastmilk
>>276966828
For a second there I thought he had started drawing futa. Now I'm disappointed.
What happened to Ishikei?really enjoyed his doujins
They have a lot of art assets, so it's not like it's void of art.
art, more like fart
>>276966828
I was playing Muramasa Rebirth 15mins ago and if that's not art I don't know what is.
>>276970209
>Trying to link mega with the chrome extension
That extension is seriously fucking annoying and pointless, get rid of it.
You guys can't even define what a game is.
Thigh sex is best sex
>>276970209
>chrome://mega/content/secure.html#!iBgSiIZS!O8gxnHgoVPd30wkVfGCCB0jaNN_49ft-S9IH9JwMR7s
How do I access this link if I don't use chrome?
>>276968402
>girl
>>276966828
there is video game art
but video games are art as well
>>276969894
Cute girls with condom in mouth is my fetish
>>276969894
Merry Christmas anon & happy horizons
