I never asked for this.What tech so far featured only in games you want to become real.
WHY ARE WE HERE
>>276268101
just to suffer.
>>276268197
EVERY NIGHT
>>276267341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXpuRIZzJog
>>276268318
Iget played like a damn fiddle
>>276267341
>there are people on this board who learned nothing from Deus Ex and would give parts of their body up for augs
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D9NOncx2jU0Q&start1=&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNs7fNPiNiNc&start2=&authorName=future
![armored_core_redesign_by_zgul_osr1113-d5jpcvg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7iJ4RoZ.jpg "armored_core_redesign_by_zgul_osr1113-d5jpcvg[1].jpg")
>>276267341
Giant robots, of course. What kind of soulless bastard doesn't want giant robots?
>>276268713
>There are people on this board who learned nothing from Deus Ex and wouldn't give parts of their body up for augs
>>276268713
Having a mechadong would be fucking great.
>>276268713
>tfw ever since FMA I wouldn't mind a robot arm
>>276268841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NOncx2jU0Q
Holy shit
>>276267341
>come at me bro.png
>electronic old men
>>276267341
Sexbots
>>276267341
Our ELECTRONIC OLD MEN and their...FLEXIBILITY.
>>276268997
>>276269021
>>276269038
guys its a slippery slope pls dont do this
I find this man alot more impressive.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Iw1JtNa6k
Why aren't you an undergraduate at MIT, working for this man?
>>276269172
U...Unatco?
>>276269038
Ever since FMA I wouldn't mind having the ability to transmute like they do, you can ram your vibrating arm up your arse
Make room, we already have the real-life Sarif.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03uvee1yxc
>>276267341
Why is his belly so fat?
>>276269494
That guy is amazing
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vdbHT2QTPM
>>276269289
already being worked on
So I'm not the only one that would gladly give up most of my organic parts for augs right?
>>276269494
Because I work for Dr. Poggio
>>276269569
>>276269519
Have fun drawing circles all your fucking life.
>>276269569
AAADDDAAAAAAAAMMMMM
>>276269653
I want to be a pretty 300lb girl
>>276269728
>implying I can't do that
http://youtu.be/aSvwsforehU
>>276268713
>There are people on this board who do not want cyberlegs
>>276269728
I'd gladly accept mechanical augmentation as the immediate future of our species.
Today, mechanical, tomorrow, nanotech. Son nwe will all be 300 years old, living an extended and healthy life as electronic old men.
>>276269021
Detachable peeeenisss
>>276269987
>there are people on this board who don't understand the ramifications of cybernetics
>>276269653
I've got a permenantly fucked up knee that I'd trade for an aug pretty quickly myself.
I live very near Hopkins (and belong to their credit union) and the stuff they do there is ridiculous. When people talk about America having the best hospitals in the world, that's the shit they are talking about. Its horribly misleading, because we are like 17th in the developed world for actual community hospitals, but for the research ones? Absolute top.
>>276269494
that last question was really good
perfect really
>>276270092
Why don't you explain them to me?
>>276270092
Please explain to me one downside that doesn't involve "muh humanity"
>you were born too late to become FUCKING INVINCIBLE
>>276270092
>He doesn't praise the Omnissiah
>>276269728
>>276269569
"Its incredible. All those "purists" out there, accusing us of tampering with the natural order.
>>276270173
People who view themselves as superior tend to wipe out the inferior
Potential for governmental tampering and misuse
Obvious room for abuse via corporations
etc
>>276269987
My legs are ok.
>giving up one or two limbs for replacements
>not waiting for GitS levels of technology
Shiggly diggly guys come on.
>>276269941
you can rotate your wrist 360 degrees? Holy shit post webm you're a miracle of science
>>276270303
But anon, we were born at just the right time for immortality
>>276268713
Why the fuck would i not replace my eyes? I can't see shit without my glasses, everything get extremely blurry and unfocused.. So they are useless without glasses or contact lenses
>>276267341
OLD MAN
WARNING
WARNING
>>276268713
>Giving up parts of their body
That's not augmentation, it's replacement. To me, augmentation is adding something to your body to improve it.
Anyway, just changing arms or legs wouldn't do anything. That's not how the human body works. We can only be as strong as the weakest part of the chain of parts in a movement. Like having a robo arm wouldn't let you punch harder than your human shoulders, back, spine, core, hips and legs can handle.
It's an all or nothing affair. Either you replace the whole body, or you do add things to it. Or you replace broken parts with parts that will do the same thing.
Honestly I'd rather just go with a multi-body. Spread your consciousness across multiple bodies. Be good for any situation. Multi task like a god.
>>276270417
>the stronger species tends to wipe out the weaker
No shit. Get augs nigga and be part of the revolution.
>>276267341
that orbital bombardment gun from fallout nv
>>276270620
More like born a bit too early, but sure.
Immortality might be developed before we hit eighty, but that's a big might.
I'm not a robot.
>>276270417
So your argument boils down to "it can be used to do evil", do I get that right?
>>276270876
is that Robocop 2?
>>276270870
Singularity is still 2040, right? or has that changed? A bit early but we're fine
Have to say, guy's a badass for living 40 years with no arms
>>276270173
I'm generally a supporter of it, but the biggest problem with it is basically this.
What happens when you have a piece of cybernetics in you that has become an absolute requirement for your continuing living, such as a heart, and only one company can do the maintenance on it? Who foots that bill? What happens if that company suddenly goes under? What happens if you are brought into a hospital unconscious after a car accident and the life-saving surgery required to keep you alive involves installing a piece of cyberware? The hippocratic oath (and federal law) requires doctors in ER's to take any measure necessary to save a life - if its the only way they WILL do that piece of surgery unless you have a specific statement in your will or other legal document telling them not to. So you now have a part you are going to owe money on for a long, long time to a company that has to maintain it, but you didn't sign up for it. This happens now days too, but the human body is relatively self sufficient, if you run out on a doctor bill right now you don't necessarily have this machine inside you that would require regular maintenance.
Once we are talking about full on Ghost In the Shell style brain interface level tech, you start having all kinds of legal problems with tampering, perception vs reality, and where the human ends and the machine begins.
The under-classes are starting to get... Desperate.
Your turn.
>>276271020
not like he can shoot himself
>>276270961
Yes, yes it is.
>>276271127
>>276270987
2040 is still a fairly optimistic prediction.
>>276270417
>People who view themselves as superior tend to wipe out the inferior
Down with White privilege!
>Potential for governmental tampering and misuse
The NSA is evil!
>Obvious room for abuse via corporations
Sell your soul to Google goyim!
On a more serious note, I'm okay with living in a cyberpunk world as you just described. Besides, "...the street finds its own uses for things". Its not like we poor proles will be totally helpless.
>>276269494
What episode of Tim & Eric is this from?
>>276270961
Yeah.. I always found that scene really fucked up
>dat feel when cyberpunk faded away as a literary genre because our technology got so close to it
Some of those authors would probably shit themselves had they imagined things like smartphones and modern internet features.
>>276270061
>actually wanting to live for 300 years
>>276271242
Robocop 1 had the guy in acid and getting hit by a truck though.
>>276270417
Why haven't we destroyed ourselves with nukes yet?
Self restrain.
>>276270742
What about the fact you cant feel pain in your new limbs, possibly more degrees of motion
Its not just for people who want to be a chris redfield
>>276271268
I'd live forever if I could.
>>276271265
Fun fact: The tabletop game Shadowrun had a giant version update to change its internet from 80's cyberpunk internet to modern Smartphone style/Watchdogs style internet. And like half its players revolted.
>>276271331
Yeah but that was just gore and 80s over-the-top violence. The resurrected cops killing themselves because they couldn't handle their new "lives" is messed up in all kinds of disturbing ways.
>>276271432
>shadowrun
eh. shadowrun is a hodge podge of everything anyway.
>hey guys, let's do cyberpunk
>but dungeons and dragons is popular so let's do fantasy as well
>>276271389
Pain is useful. It is a message that you are sustaining damage. Not having this message is very bad. See Leprosy.
>possibly more degrees of motion
I'd rather do this with an addition than with a replacement. That's what I see as being augmented. You have the base human model and you ADD to it. You don't replace what's already functional with something slightly more functional in some ways, less in others.
>>276271602
True enough. I finally convinced my players to let me GM it after like, a fucking decade, and we've been having lots and lots fun.
But I can totally see where cyberpunk purists would discount it.
>>276270061
>implying regular bumbfucks like us will ever get the access to any form of age extension in the near future
>>276271242
too bad Robocop 2 was a mess of a film
>>276269569
>If you come watch videos online of amputy and you don't feel your throat tightening or having tears in your eyes,
>then you're less human than any cyborgs I've ever met
Hrmrmlml
>>276271420
I'd rather just live until I didn't want to live. However long that would end up being.
I would turn my body into 90% machine at the cost of having to fight terrorists.
....or would it it be I would fight terrorist at the cost of turning 90% of my body into machine?
>>276271456
You know, for being action flicks both movies touched some interesting subjects.
Then they made a third movie with a ninja robot.
>>276271432
That seems like a huge thing to change, but I have very little knowledge of shadowrun outside of its basic premise
Just make a new IP if you want to make a more "realistic" future
>>276271073
I don't see a problem there at all, to be honest. If you do not wish to live on with a piece of technology within yourself for whatever reason, you still have the choice to die afterwards by killing yourself. The only difference would be that you were offered the choice to live or to die, rather than being killed with no choice whatsoever.
Unless you somehow interpret the choice given to you as negative, there's nothing inherently bad about this. And should you actually consider having a choice in that matter a negative thing, you could also sign a legal document (as you mentioned) that will make sure you will not have to make such a choice.
If you're worried that a single company could have a monopoly on some kind of augmentation that can save your life, government regulations or the free market - pick whatever suits your politicial convitions or the status quo of your country - should easily be able to take care of that.
>>276270651
>cybernetic eyes
>shitty corrupt government makes you install a patch that censors nudity and sensitive information
>walk around literally with censors inside your head
Every new technology, the first angle I look at it from is "how can the government abuse this?".
>>276271796
But you already have access to a ton of age extension methods. Prime amongst those is a wealth of information about your body the likes of which people of the past could have never fathomed.
>>276271902
You'd want some really good checks in place so you don't decide to end it all because you've had one shitty day.
>>276271941
>mfw watching the third movie
>>276267341
>nobody has photoshopped this guy into a Deus Ex or Metal Gear Rising screenshot yet
>>276269021
You wouldn't even be able to feel anything.
>>276272030
As i they'd be able to enforce this. They already can't enforce shit with the tech we currently have.
>>276272030
In today's world, governments and states are not the most powerful entities that can make your life shittier.
These arecorporations
>>276270417
>>276270173
Not him but here is a good one:
I read biomedical ethics journals. Early 2014 (maybe late 2013?) there was a really infamous article about genetic enhancements. Now this isn't cybernetics but the upshot is the same so whether it's cybernetic or genetic engineering the conclusion ought to be the same.
In this particle article they argued that you have the moral imperative to eliminate males. Of course they used a lot of data (lot's of it was biased and stupid) and poor anecdotes but their conclusion was that if genetic enhancement were too be judged morally permissible then the logical conclusion that follows is a world full of women. No men at all, not even to reproduce as that can all be done artificially anyway.
So it received a ton of backlash, and is still receiving backlash to this day, but the argument works the same way for all enhancements. For cybernetics the upshot would be a world without humans. That creates an argument from economics for those who can't afford the enhancements and promotes a sort of caste system.
It's an incredibly complex issue and I'm barely even giving you a sampling. Most proponents of genetic and cybernetic enhancements point towards Zoltan Istvan (The Transhmunanist Wager) and Sam Harris (The Moral Landscape) as a sort of base to build off of for the moral consequences of such endeavours.
That doesn't even scratch the surface of AI that it all ultimately get's reduced too, though. As that is the final form past genetics and cybernetics--an exhumed "AI" if you will, of yourself.
One million hours in Gimp
>>276272236
What makes you think so?
>>276272236
You probably would
Remember that whole "prosthetic hand lets patient feel again"
>>276272305
love it
>walk up to a guy with a bionic arm
>run a magnet through it
>he can't use it anymore
: )
>>276269494
>What are those? I want a pair
This is how it starts
>>276272285
I've heard feminists say that testosterone levels in young males should be regulated, with cybernetics it's all the more easy
>>276272305
Where's my piss filter
ADAAAAAAAAAAM
>>276269021
>not Machine-us Weanus
>>276271991
I agree that they are fixable problems, I was just saying they are problems that will need fixing in one form or another. A revolution in cybernetics is going to require a giant wave of new regulations from things like insurance companies and drug manufacturers and we have very solid evidence of that kind of sweeping regulation change getting too bogged down in government bodies to get done or be done right.
So like I said: you are right, it SHOULD be easily able to take care of the problems I outlined, but evidence suggests that it won't actually manage to do so easily or efficiently at all.
>>276272087
So pretty much don't be a whiny bitch? I could live like that
>>276272087
I've already got that. And it only gets better with age. Experience is the knowledge that it'll always get better and it could always be worst, so take a step back and asses your situation logically instead of as a whiny baby.
>>276267341
So can he feel that arm? I mean it's connected to his nervous system right? If i tore that arm off, would it be extremely painful?
>>276272305
Still missing "I never asked for this"
>>276271908
My primary concern would be getting hacked. Nothing is unhackable, but then again if you combine human awareness and intelligence into the system, it could be almost impossible
>>276268101
Because we're here. Just let it happen.
Roll the bones.
>>276271765
Yes pain is useful, but not all the time. Whats the point of being in constant pain when you cut a finger off? Sure you dont want to damage you new robo arm but you can replace that with a new one.
> You don't replace what's already functional with something slightly more functional in some ways, less in others.
I believe that with enough r and d we will create supperier limbs than our own
>>276272236
>>276272087
m8 it's not like we kill ourselves now over one shitty day.
Why are these fat, old people allowed to have these augmentations before anyone else?
If we get to see good looking anatomically identic augs and prostethics.
Can I get a cyborg girl body? Cause I want that.
Dr. Hugh Herr, why aren't there more women in the neuromechanical limb industry?
Care to mansplain that?
>>276272236
This steak tastes great.
>>276272609
Because they are old, have been amputated for years and they have nothing left to lose, they are literally testing this shit out for everyone.
>>276268997
>>276269653
>>276270173
>>276270283
>>276270354
>>276270813
okay anons it seems you really are sheltered neets living in fairylands and you mustve never stepped a foot outside.
what Im about to say can be undertood and comprehended by a fucking sub 70 iq idiot.
you think these are going to be given out for free?
a fucking robo finger is gonna cost millions. You really think you are gonna be able to afford this ?
this is what the new deus ex is gonna be about. the richer are gonna get stronger, smarter , better in every way on top of being rich. everybody under corporate overlord class is gonna be left behind, and eventually get wiped out, that includes all of us here, the only people being able to afford augs would be holywood, bill gates, notch amounts of rich. I have nothing against augmentation if the government made sure everyone got it, but it isnt gonna be so.
there is a reason cyberpunk is always a dystopian setting
>>276272609
Because the heads of the research teams felt more sorry for them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w
Amazing
>>276272654
>SJW would unironically ask this if they could.
>>276267341
>We live in a time where there are ordinary people who live with robotic limb replacements
Where were you when you realized its the future?
>>276272484
No, it doesn't give feedback beyond pressure sense. The only thing he could feel through it would be a yes/no on a sliding scale that he was holding something so he can regulate the pressure of the grip and no, for example, explode a coffee mug by trying to pick it up.
>>276272407
Well the argument they made in the article was the the very first genetic enhancement done to any "fetus" (using that term loosely) was to make it female. Of course that would be done before the fetus is even formed. No need to regulate testosterone when there are no men.
>>276272285
The entire idea is completely flawed. Men make war not because they are men. They do it because they are better at it than women. Why would you want to keep men home and send women to war if you KNOW that they'll lose to any men they encounter?
If you eliminate men, then the women best suited for war will handle the war. It won't just go away. Fucking christ these people.
![newborn_kusanagi[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JcV8A4u.jpg "newborn_kusanagi[1].jpg")
>>276272626
No problem.
>>276270620
Jellyfish beat us too it
>>276272734
So your argument is that it won't be available for everybody and can be used to do evil, right?
>you will not live to see full cybernetic suits that look like human skeletons
>you will never transplant your brain into this
I just wanna spook people and rattle some bones
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkVjtbUOXHo4&start1=20&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DCDsNZJTWw0w&start2=295&authorName=
>>276272525
Just don't have an open fucking internet connection into yourself.
>>276272734
This guy gets it. Unless they are made extremely cheap it will just heighten the disparity between rich and poor even more. Just look at all the healthcare benefits available to affluent people now and multiply that by a billion.
>>276268713
>muh human purity
>yfw the jews start selling better arms and legs every couple of years like if they were iPhones.
>planned obsolescense in your augs
>>276272609
They're veterans, usually. Plenty of young veterans that gets prosthetics too, if they lost a limb on duty.
>>276272734
Just like cars, there will eventually be cheap middle-of-the-road limbs for everyone when they can be mass-produced. Every new piece of technology starts off incredibly expensive and quickly gets cheaper. Cars, computer, televisions, radios, everything. Planes are a different case because they cost a lot of materials and manpower to make and fuel, and a fuckton of infrastructure.
Also,
>there is a reason cyberpunk is always a dystopian setting
This has absolutely no bearing on our future, writers can't look into the future, the reason they're usually set in a dystopia is that there is very little that's actually interesting about utopias.
Just because 1984 depicted the year 1984 as a dystopia doesn't mean 1984 was a dystopia because the book said so.
>>276272990
GitS is my favorite anime.
I wanna be a cute cyborg girl like Motoko
>>276272734
or its going to be like every other technology ever and its going to start out expensive and gradually make its way into the household
especially with the advent of 3D printing
>>276272985
It didn't go over well for the researchers. Articles were posted in journals every month calling them out for being dumb. They were from Australia, btw. (U of Sydney if I recall correctly)
>>276273196
>not using open source augs
>>276272568
But you're not in constant pain when you cut a finger off. You get a flash of pain when it happens, then a dull throbbing after wards, then mostly nothing unless you touch the damaged bit.
I would know, I've lost a finger by being pushed down a shale-stone cliff. Cut the thing right off. The rest of my body was also cut up nicely.
Cut was so sharp they were even able to reattach it. Finger works fine, other than being a bit less flexible than the others and getting colder in winter / not staying warm in gloves.
>>276273347
install robotgentoooooo
Neat. I just watched that video.
>>276269653
i would gladly like to have selective hearing, like keeping your eyes closed, but with ears
>>276273370
did you feel any phantom pain?
>>276272268
Even worse. Imagine ads being broadcast directly into your eyeballs. Having to watch fucking Flo from Progressive through closed eyelids as you try to fall asleep. I'd just kill myself.
>>276272734
Yes but in those settings, augs always find their way on the street and tons of people have them.
>>276272734
Its ridiculously unlikely to cost anything like that amount, at least the ones for actual medical replacement. Ghost in the Shell style full body replacement? Ok, yeah, but we're literally a century or more out from something like that.
For any kind of tech to develop, there has to be a market. If only 1% of the population (or less) can afford your product, it is unlikely to be worth the development costs technologically.
A more likely price range to put the things would be somewhere in the range a speed boat, small plane, or luxury car. Something that, with effort and debt management, people in the middle class can generally afford. At least assuming we're talking completely optional replacements.
If we're talking about replacements done because its medically required? No, those will almost certainly be available to anyone through charity if nothing else. That same hospital that is developing these has an insurance program they run that provides absolutely every service and medication they give out for 1 dollar each. I didn't have insurance and went there after having a seizure and they gave me 2 days in the hospital, an MRI, 2 CT scans, and two years worth of epilepsy meds for about 11 dollars. That's the kind of thing that'll apply to poor people that need this stuff.
OP's image gave me a boner.
This is it, guys, I'm quitting the internet.
>>276272432
here u go
>>276270658
Is that guy carrying a gun?
Damn it, I posted that image with that phrase as the filename on the other thread earlier, and somebody STILL got it onto /v/ faster than me.I'm excited about the potential, to be honest.
>>276273196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzgpU25C6fg
Good movie btw
>>276273461
Well I was only finger-less for maybe an hour or something, so I never had the opportunity to check. But I imagine I would have, since cutting off a limb doesn't rip out all the parts of your nervous system that were in charge of it.
>>276273613
nice
>>276267341
Cyberpunk.
>>276272734
YEAH WE SHOULD BAN CARS BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD THE BEST ONES
You're a fucking retard. Cyberpunk settings are usually dystopian because the people who wrote those books did so specifically to promote their backwards classicism.
>>276272985
The problem with gender roles is that there's more to it than just "men have more physical potential than women", men being seen as the stronger sex has foundations in the very beginnings of human culture and biology. There was very much a time where men had to defend women because they were expendable, one man can impregnate a hundred women at a time but only one woman can be pregnant from a single man at a time, and ontop of that men have an easier time getting /fit/ because of the presence of testosterone. When humanity settled and defending against wild animals wasn't a thing any longer, the culture persisted and men remained in the protector role.
It really isn't a case of men being better at it inherently, it's just that society grooms men to be the expendable ones and women to be the precious ones, the hormonal difference can be overcome through training.
>>276273149
>lets screw rich people because poors cant afford it
>>276273839
You will regret your words and deeds
>>276273839
Besides, tech always trickles down. Sure, the early versions will cost a fuck ton, but why would you want them anyway? Wait, and eventually you'll get better for cheaper.
But honestly, I wouldn't trust some store bought augs. I'd have to make my own, following design plans I'd steal from the interbutts.
>>276273228
pic looks nice
sauce?
>>276271073
>What happens when you have a piece of cybernetics in you that has become an absolute requirement for your continuing living, such as a heart
>what are pacemakers
>>276273613
Glorious
Respawning
Right now physical sports are literally no different than e-spurts: arbitrary garbage, a show for simple-minded.
With allowing actual weaponry to be used, sport will finally we back.
>government starts selling cybernetic organs to the public
>martial law is implemented
>if you disobey they turn off your heart remotely
>>276273839
>>276272734
They are actually usually dystopian because the theme of them is mostly talking about runaway capitalism utterly free of morality, mixed with runaway technological advancement also free of morality. There is no coincidence that the genre generally arose in the 80's, along with tons of movies that had the same theme.
The Greed is Good generation and all that.
>>276273370
I never lost an appendage so that was a bad example but my point still stands that pain wont be necessary with a prosthetic. Burning, crushing or breaking a robot finger wont leave any permanent damage. Of course you would want to avoid it if you can
>>276274113
Pace makers already exist, anon.
And the moment someone implements wireless features in vital organ augments, people are going to freak the fuck out.
>>276273470
How the fuck do you not like flo?
>>276274112
How is people shooting eachother any different from current sports? It's just as simple-minded.
>>276274221
>implying they wouldn't hide it until a large amount of the population had already implemented them into their bodies
>they make a law requiring people to get cybernetic organs
>this is how 1984 truly starts
>>276274112
>a show for simple-minded.
>With allowing actual weaponry to be used, sport will finally we back.
How does having real weapons change the fact that sports are for the masses?
>>276274385
>gettting proprietary augments
>2011 + 16
It's like you want to be a human data mining machine.
>>276273978
You Luddites are crazy.
The question is, how many bitcoins will I be able to mine with my augments?
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD AN ARM
These threads are always interesting. Transhumanism is an interesting topic, as well as how it could horribly go wrong.
>>276274385
>a law requiring people to get cybernetic organs
Have some imagination. A real fascist regime would implant a nano capsule in children which via radio-control will kill the receiver.
>>276274642
Augs and cybernetics are perfectly fine for amputees or for those who need them but to replace working limbs with prosthetics is a step in the wrong direction
>>276273978
Did you know Fahrenheit 451 was written by Ray Bradbury because he thought TVs were going to destroy the world? That the governmental censorship symbolism was utterly coincidental, and applied by academics after the fact because it made much more sense the actual, retarded meaning behind the novel?
Authors are just that, authors. They know little of the science they write about, much less its implications in economics, society, or government.
>>276274726
>free speech is outlawed in 2027
>you go to prison for triggering a tumblerite
>tyrone has a 27 inch cyborg cock
>>276274306
>How is people shooting eachother any different from current sports? It's just as simple-minded.
At least 99% of everything won't be banned because it's "unfair".
Why can't football players just murder the opposing team and then put the ball in the goal?
>>276274445
They won't have to stop just because they might hurt someone in a setting where hurting is the point.
>>276274953
>They won't have to stop just because they might hurt someone in a setting where hurting is the point.
You didn't answer my question.
>>276274801
So basically Gantz?
Are they going to make us fight aliens to earn our freedom in a death game? Because i might be down for that.
>>276274848
why
its part of the natural progression
>>276275089
Robot parts aren't sexy.
>>276274007
>>276273942
The scope of cybernetics is beyond anything else before it. It's not comparable to cars or planes. It's a technology that fundamentally changes the existence of the participant. The assumption is that they will allow the technology to be distributed at a non-prohibitive cost. But then you get into what a prohibitive cost is, really. Since earning over 30k in a year already puts you in the top 1% of the planet basic rudiments are already prohibitively expensive. But that's where the ethical issues comes in: primarily exploitation and caste systems. Just take the animosity between rich and poor in a country like India, Mexico, China (Or heck, even the U.S.) and increase by a factor of 10.
Although I disagree and I think it will be fine going forward to not acknowledge them as very real, and well-founded, concerns moving forward wouldn't be very prudent.
>>276275089
>natural progression
>>276274894
>still thinking black have the biggest dongs
>being this uninformed
lol - what a funny meme
>>276274894
>implying niggers would be able to afford cybernetics
Even if we do live to see mainstream use of cybernetics, I imagine they would be expensive. I hope I never see the day when you can buy robot arms from Walmart
>>276274848
Humans will become one with the machine, the humanity's most beloved thing in the world.It's simple evolution
>>276274726
not to be anti-fun, but transhumanism is a lot less interesting when you realize that instead of having a deus ex future where everyone has cyber limbs, it's more akain to having all your organs replaced with artificial ones as you age. For example, my mom has four kidneys, only one of which is her own (one is her brother's, two are artificial). She weighs about 400 pounds and will probably be getting a prototype artificial pancreas too.
mind you, I'm of the opinion that nanomachines/genetic treatments/roids will become more popular before we start replacing limbs with mechanical ones
>>276275178
>implying
>WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THIS SHIT
its true..
You cannot stop the future
>>276275331
>For example, my mom has four kidneys, only one of which is her own (one is her brother's, two are artificial). She weighs about 400 pounds and will probably be getting a prototype artificial pancreas too.
This is some Judge Dredd shit here.
>>276275352
Looks like a china doll with those joint connectors, disgusting.
>people still think cyberpunk is fiction
It's already here man, we are the baby steps.
>>276275178
Get a load of this faggot.
>>276275079
There's nothing wrong with being popular.
What's wrong is being made-up garbage like our current sports with their rulebooks longer than The Bible.
>>276275198
Yes.
We've evolved past slow genetic evolution.
It is now cognitive, scientific evolution. We evolve as a society and as a species in conjunction, and we do so through medicine, genetic engineering and prostethics.
It's part of the human nature.
>>276272734
You'd say the exact same things if you were around the same time computers started being used. Only this will probably make less of an impact on a person when it becomes common than not having a computer in this day and age.
>>276275565
So your solution to mainsteam sports being boring is to just give everyone guns?
So instead of a game that requires a miniscule amount of thought, it now requires no thought at all?
Who cares about petty transhumanism, I want to know when we can artificially create an overman to transcend this retarded world.
Call me back when these robotic limbs actually work better than normal human limbs. Currently legs from the knee down have the benefits of being better, but you have to constantly swap them out in order to do different things with them.
Singularity when?
Okay okay, they can make robot hands and shit that link up to your nerves... but can they make the same thing in say the form of a cluster of tentacles?
I need to know if i can have metal combat tentacles wired to my arm.
also a shotgun.
>>276273613
Can someone put a trench coat on him?
>>276275331
That isn't what Transhumanism is. Transhumanism is immortality. Whether or not that has a physical form is irrelevant and based on what we know now it most likely won't. Transhumanism is uploading your consciousness. Transhumanism is ascending beyond human comprehension. Transhumanism is understanding the nature of man and choosing not to accept it. Transhumanism is not getting 2 dicks so you can fuck 2 bitches at once.
>>276275186
>>276271073
>>276272285
>>276272407
>>276270092
>>276272734
What exactly do you mean by "cybernetics"? Are we talking about the study of control and system dynamics or are you using it as an euphemism for augmentation?
>>276272381
>Pangea from DX:HR was based off ghost in the shell
I feel giddy all of a sudden.
>>276275762
there are prosthetic legs that legitimately are comparable to actual human legs now
we still havent gotten arms figured out yet
>>276275731
>transcend this retarded world.
You can already do that anon.
>>276275789
>suddenly realizing the implications for porn
Tentacle mecha men JAV, imagine it. The future is looking bright anons, i have a reason to live.
>>276275920
Yeah, motor skills are a bitch to fine-tune.
>>276275938
>he thinks dying is transcendence
>>276275614
>using the term "human nature"
>advocating scientific evolution while using the term unironically
Way to be a retard.
>>276275920
That's what I said, but AFAIK those legs are from the knee down, I doubt we have hip down legs figured out nearly as well as the knee down ones.
>tfw no arena real life shootout sport where two teams are matched to capture the flag with real guns shooting eachother for real with worldwide broadcast
>tfw we will never have the real life arena shooter
Man, I'd watch the fuck out of that sport.
Soccer, baskebtall and other boring sports wouldn't stand a chance next to MurderBowl.
>>276275903
Cybernetic enhancements and augmentations
Not as a means of medical aid but for the purpose of "making oneself superior"
>>276273228
CyberNotch contacts you and says he can give you a cyborg loli body. You'll have to be his lover for a year though.
Would you accept?
>>276275884
>Whether or not that has a physical form is irrelevant and based on what we know now it most likely won't. Transhumanism is uploading your consciousness. Transhumanism is ascending beyond human comprehension. Transhumanism is understanding the nature of man and choosing not to accept it.
That's posthumanism actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthuman
>>276274894
more like:
>under the Communications Safety act of 2019, websites may only be setup by FCC licensed operators on FCC approved equipment
>under the Child Abuse Prevention act of 2022, you may only visit FCC whitelisted websites
>under the Highway Improvement act of 2023, all cars must have a functional GPS system active at all times along with an EU-style kill switch for police
>under the Intellectual Property Security act of 2025, all printed materials require a tax stamp along with proof of registration of their copyright. Offending materials can be turned into a local fire station for disposal.
>under the Interstate Anti-Crime act of 2027, the TSA is allowed to setup checkpointing and require visa/residency checks when travelling between major cities
>under the Freedom Act of 2031, commercial civilian firearm sales are prohibited to non-FFL holders
>under the FCC Content Standards act of 2033, all digital content is regulated in the same manner TV and radio content are
alex jones warned us
>>276276038
Epic rebuttal bro.
I rate it 9/11 on your ass..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYxt7cwDk4E
>>276276028
Eternal return motherfucker, it might as well be.
>>276276132
Isn't that basically laser tag?
>>276275614
You're being irresponsibly naive if you don't think there will be vast negative results of this.
Enhanced healing factor.
>>276275903
Both. It's a nebulous term used to define introduction of non-organic (or altered organics) to organic mehcanisms. Whether or not that is done through the introduction of actual mechanical mechanisms or altering organic mechanisms is irrelevant. It is the manipulation by some sort of "un-natural" (as in non-organic[organic referring to unaltered cells]) mechanism.
It's a rather large set. At least that's how I use it. There really is no codified definition of it yet.
>>276275565
By god, you're a retard. You're an edgy retard.
>>276275475
best part is that because we're American the teaching hospital only charged us $5,000 for the surgery. She also has one of those electronic ear implant things, because the company that makes them is doing trial runs now
>>276275884
>Transhumanism is immortality.
>Transhumanism is understanding the nature of man and choosing not to accept it.
and this is basically what my mom is now, because she'd be dead 15+ years ago if it weren't for her new kidneys and it's the "nature of man" to go outside and explore and not be a fat fuck shut in watching TV and eating KFC all day
>>276276250
He makes me think of a black Ron Perlman
>>276275730
>So instead of a game that requires a miniscule amount of thought, it now requires no thought at all?
i m p l y i n g
Just because current sports are more like shitty operas because of all the limitations and rules and other arbitrary shit that don't allow you to use logic because "it's unfair" doesn't mean deathsports will be.
If killing is so easy why won't you go to war then?
Hope you have the money needed to protect your spine from thieves. Spinal cords are in high demand these days.
>>276276374
There already are.
Mass media overload, desentisized society, pollution and inefficient production/recycling methods for profit, etc.
Industrialisation was and will be no different from augmentations. Everything we do has it's bad side.
You could argue being a hippie in a hut wearing nothing but a loincloth would be less negative than this.
Besides, who gives a shit, it's not like I can change the future.
>>276276604
K, let's sign you up first. You can be a pioneer of the sport.
![Gantz-ch368-p10-11[Whatever].png](https://i.imgur.com/yfnA6Hl.jpg "Gantz-ch368-p10-11[Whatever].png")
>>276275082
can't wait to get me some alien ass
>>276276708
>Besides, who gives a shit, it's not like I can change the future.
"The logic of a loser" to quote a certain anime antagonist
>>276267341
Fuck Eidos Montreal.
>>276276471
>There really is no codified definition of it yet.
Stop, for the love of everything good in the world please stop. Go educate yourself, please. Google it, find Paul Pangaro's videos or essays before we all murder you.
>>276276250
>Choose CDPR to develop your lifes creative work
10/10 choice
>>276276697
>tfw you will never be the chronically raging alternate personality of a psychic weakling transposed into a colossal centaur robot samurai body
>>276276323
With real guns.
I want to see people die for sport.
I want to see them fight for their lives.
>>276276604
Mate, deathsports would end in one way and one way only, and that's the team that can afford even a single nuclear bomb wins. If you remove all rules, you might as well just whip out the heaviest weaponry. Would you want to watch a contest where every game ends within seconds as the opposing side sets off a massive explosive? Nothing is ruleless, even war is governed by quite a few rules.
>>276276879
You are one hell of an edgy teen, m8.
>>276276759
Personally i liked the alien that had a mouth on her head, you know the geisha alien that Kazuo Kuwabara fucked.
>>276276604
>If killing is so easy why won't you go to war then?
War is not just killing.
War is strategy, operations, and tactics. It takes place over years and requires careful use of manpower resources, and politics.
If you make a game out of it it will necessarily be far more reductive than any authentic conflict.
And if we're comparing the complexity of a game like football or soccer, then it's going to be a lot more complex and thought provoking than something like a gladiator battle. Those rules are what gives it the little complexity it has.
What if chess pieces weren't restricted by rules?
Do you honestly think the game would be nearly as complex?
>>276276962
Counter Strike is nice to watch, but real life counter strike is even cooler.
Love me some live leak videos.
Curiosity and voyeurism aren't something only edgy teens like.
>>276276815
Well, can you change the world?
One in seven billions to change, I hope you can change things for the better.
>>276267341
Augmentation will never happen because it's too expensive. Same reason we'll never find another Earth.
>>276275497
>tfw my hometown was a suburb turned ghetto in 2008
>now because everyone is a renter, apartment buildings are going up everywhere
>mfw it's like the intro to mirror's edge, seeing the derelict memories I have erased as concrete and steel towers are put up
I shouldn't be so melodramatic though, because the suburb I lived in was built ontop of three or four farming villages that were completely torn down to accommodate it. And in all fairness, as new towers go up old blight is torn down. It's just weird for me actually being able to commute to work by train now, and that I can walk to stores instead of driving. I can't help but feel that I'm of a different age though, a lot of my friends are in their 20s and don't even own cars. I myself haven't been into a large department store in over a year, and back then when I did it feel extremely quaint. Also, like I said all the farmers are retaking their land back, and it's fucking weird going from liberal inner city to toby kiethland in less than a ten minute car ride now.
related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjsE1JZCSno
>>276276962
>If you remove all rules, you might as well just whip out the heaviest weaponry
Then you defend against it.
Espurts babby please go. Stay go, too.
>>276277051
>War is not just killing.
That's what I'm saying, that that guy/you is a dummy.
