>Morrowind
>High fantasy trying to stop an interdimensional Self made God from raping the universe and leads to you delving into the big ass secrets of the world and doing meet and greet with 4000 year old wizards and College Jock tier Gods that party
>You join one of the great elven houses to understand the culture and lore of Nirn
>become a demi god yourself and party all Eon and Decade with ya boy Vivec
>Oblivion
>Mid fantasy Defending your homeland from a single dimensional threat by some cult summoning the god of hate to mess you up leading you to stabilize an empire by finding its heir.
>meeting an ancient order of warriors, become an anonymouse force of nature that connects the world together and ends with you becoming the god of insanity by saving a world of insanity full of retards and junkies (meaning you are even more forgotten)
>Skyrim
>low tier Fantasy where you're the chosen one that has to kill a demi God like entity that isn't even on the radar to anyone with actual power.
>The biggest issue of the game is a civil war between a a bunch of shit stain vikings and angry Roman Degenerates
>You end up using the ancient gift as a slight handicap in a battle despite being able to act as a reserve magic pool for any application if properly studied
>stopped some angry vampires that could get ganked by 80 year old Vendors at a market
>stopped a guy that was canonically some fanboy to Morrowind's final boss
Next we're going to go to Black Marsh and fight a kindergarten bully with our Hist Tree powers(tm)
>>275102416
What a disgusting fucking person
>Skyrim
>Low tier fantasy
I don't think you know what that word means.
I really hope for originalities sake they go for a AkaVIr area. Reuse some area asset but buildings and shit can spark some life into a deluded fantasy game
>I've always been into Western RPGs, and that's what we make. I've never been into Japanese RPGs because I want to roam, and traditionally they don't let you do that. I find that in Japanese art, and science fiction and fantasy, that it's super fantastical. In Western stuff, it tries to get more realistic, as much as it can for what it is. So like, we'll approach it like- this is fantasy with elves, and swords, and dragons, but it has to feel real, like this could happen, or did happen, even with Mass Effect and the way it approaches science fiction. But when you see the Japanese ones, it's crazy on another level...like that looks cool, but that's nuts, it's really high fantasy, it's really crazy science fiction...and then the earth eats itself...and then why are there nukes, and...I have trouble with my father and mother. I don't get into that stuff, I think because I can't wrap my hands around it, so it doesn't suspend my disbelief in the way like- sort of like Red Dead, where immediately you think this is all real, I'm here, I'm doing this, and these are real places in the West even though they're made up.
>>275102204
>Dagoth Ur
>Interdimensional
>Raping the universe
>Nerevarine partying with Vivec
OH come on
>>275102862
Low fantasy is less magic, more closely ground to reality. the higher fantasy you go the more mystical and "grand" the world will seem. What else could it mean faggot
>>275102204
Can you please write an original fantasy world that has an actually epic storyline for use in a game?
>>275102204
Vivec a busta.
>muh lore
Morrowhiners are the cancer killing TES.
We could have games like Daggerfall again but no, Morrowind fans gotta focus on their quirkbird fairy tales instead.
That's not what "High fantasy" means, you really don't know what you're talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZUynhkal1I&
>>275103553
>if you're not a chef you can't say this pile of shit tastes like shit
this is how retarded you sound
If I was to direct the next game it would be to dig deeper into the world instead of grounding the plot to the "realistic" side of things A La >>275102943
Also no chosen one bullshit, no Big Bad Evil Guy thrown in your face head start of the game, an evil that is discovered later on.
>>275103852
what the fuck does High fantasy mean then
>>275102204
I just read someone describe Oblivion as "mid fantasy" and Skyrim as "low fantasy". I think I'm done with /v/ for a while.
>>275103974
>this is how retarded you sound
Wow, way to be defensive. I never said that shit. I agree with you and would like to see what you would come up with. Just something high level would be interesting to read.
Oblivion and Skyrim are high fantasy. Gods, ghosts, and magic are all still there, it's just Cyrodill and Skyrim are more ordinary looking places compared to Morrowind.
>>275102204
All of them are high fantasy.
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of, fag.
>>275102416
there are people that believe this crap? who wrote this?
>>275103380
That's not what low fantasy means at all, moron.
What you described is still high fantasy with low magic.
Rule of thumb: Everything set in it's own world is high fantasy.
I bet your faggot ass thinks Game of Thrones is low fantasy as well.
>>275102204
No, next we're going to have a game set in the GoT universe
>>275103380
Yes, but Skyrim is nowhere near low fantasy. You're facing a blight of dragons with the magic power of your voice that can clear the skies, push people at ludicrous speeds and set fire on shit, while also meeting with ancient gods and going back in the past and to Valhalla.
You want an example of what Low Fantasy actually is, read "The Owl Service".
your opinion is objectively wrong since oblivion managed to rape the lore the hardest out of the three games, while skyrim despite obviously being made for console babbies was still immersive.
The only good thing about Skyrim is that it re-introduced the Empire as what it was always supposed to be, a sort of Roman civilization.
Oblivion was so shit from a Lore perspective it's embarassing.
>>275104748
Man I thought high fantasy was like good vs evil epic struggle bullshit and low fantasy was your ragtag band of adventurer out to accomplish something comparably more mundane. Like the difference between LOTR and Conan.
>>275103380
If we're going to try to "quantify fantasy", then oblivion's the low fantasy one.
>>275104998
This is what I thought too. Except I use WoW and GoT as examples
Elder Scrolls lore is so interesting, why does the series still belong to Bethesda?
>>275104748
>Everything set in it's own world is high fantasy.
>>275104859
>>275104906
>>275104998
>>275105009
holy fuck you are deluded.
High fantasy is defined as fantasy fiction set in an alternative, fictional ("secondary") world, rather than the real, or "primary" world. The secondary world is usually internally consistent, but its rules differ from those of the primary world. Low fantasy is characterized by being set in the primary, or "real" world, or a rational and familiar fictional world, with the inclusion of magical elements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fantasy#Genre_overview
Its clearly saying you are only half right
>>275103380
It might be less mystical and "grand" than Morrowind, but it's by no means low fantasy. That's like saying Internal Affairs is a documentary, because it's more realistic than The Bad Lieutenant.
>>275104526
>>275105082
>>275104998
You thought wrong. All of your examples are high fantasy.
Low fantasy would be Twilight, Harry Potter, or some other fantastical stuff happening in "our" world.
>>275102416
Kirkbride is a hack author because he writes nonsense but pawns it off as something deep
>>275103380
Is going to other planes of existence and fighting gods considered grounded in reality to you?
>>275102204
The next game will be about stopping the thalmor from deleting the world. I think that's big enough.
>>275104526
>destroys one little town that no one cares about
Adding on to this, in the process he even managed to save the protagonist from the chopping block. Far from wronging the protagonist, his first action in the plot is to save their life, albeit indirectly.
In fact, that situation in and of itself is pretty indicative of the shit writing. Why did Alduin even attack that shitty village? He never attacks another, and he wasn't even after anything. He just did it to be a set piece, and for no other reason.
>>275105391
What this dood said.
>>275104526
Goddamn, stop reminding me how shitty this fucking game is.
>>275105391
I believe the term you are searching for is urban fantasy. By your definition both lotr and Conan are low fantasy as well since they were both stated by their respective authors to take place on a prehistory earth before all magic, wonder and other such crap had left the world.
>>275105391
Your low fantasy examples are true but high fantasy isn't set around anything realistic with one or two "mythical" creatures that don't really break the magical boundaries because it uses no magic
Conan had a cult leader with slight telepathic abilities and a giant snake, that isn't high fantasy it's low fantasy
>>275103380
Skyrim has you going to "heaven" and fighting against gods. It's not fucking low fantasy, you retard.
shittiest op i've seen all day
>>275105685
No it's high fantasy.
It's like saying Star Wars counts as hard sci-fi, because in the unknown distant future there may really once exist lightsabers and warp and shit.
>>275105859
so'd you just wake up or what?
>>275105429
a Mary sue adventures to one up the game that came before the sequel shouldn't even impress a child with downs syndrome
>DAE HE TRAVELS BETWE WORLD AND OWN EVERY ELDER SCROLL DESPITE THEM NOT EVEN SUPPOSE TO EXIST
>THEIR IN SKYRIM BECAUSE FUK U
>VAMPIRE WEREWOLF CHOSEN ONE
>MUH HERO CAN BEAT UR HERO
fucking autist
>>275105737
High and Low fantasy has nothing to do with magic.
It's all about the world it's set in. Wether that world has no magic, low magic or high magic doesn't matter in the definition of high/low fantasy.
Why is Vivec bigger than the Imperial City? Is that the lore?
p gay thread
>>275105956
Tolkien actually had it all planned out. Either Jesus birth of crucifixion, can't remember which specifically marked the beginning of the beginning of the fifth age, the beginning of the sixth had something to do with the king arthur legend while we would live in the seventh.
>>275105978
You kinda warmed my heart anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHrTTgmB_3w
>>275106239
I must have missed the history lessons where it said that Elves, Hobbits, Dragons and all that shit where reigning the earth before the Mudslims decided to kill off Jesus.
Low Fantasy doesn't completely change the history of the real world.
Also I would like a some source on that, because that's literally the first time I ever heard about that.
>>275106189
He orally fucked Azura at some point with Molag Bol
they became bros at some point between oblivion and morrowind
Vivec is kinda just a party animal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAPUVs1asFg&list=UUKbx5iXoRjPG_95-qSN8YGA
So certain indie games have come out to appeal to gamers who miss great games like the original Fallout and X-Com, also some WRPG style games. I wonder if anyone is working on a morrowind type game. probably not, but im kind of hoping
>>275106262
>9 minutes
nah fuck you, tell us what you're trying to point out here anon because nobody is watching that shit
>>275106592
Either way I'd never refer to myself as something as autistic as "gamer"
>Mid fantasy
Skyrim has far more stanard fantasy creatures. Oh a dragon. Oh a big spider. It's a skeleton ah spooky. In morrowind I don't have half an idea what I'm fighting majority the time. Far more alien setting.
>>275102204
>partying with Vivec
>partying with the jew who poisoned/killed my past incarnation along with two other scheming handrubbers
If you didn't kill Vivec after piecing that together you're a beta scrub.
>>275106732
what should i say instead?
>>275106994
let me help you with that; they're called cliff racers
>>275106638
It'll be the best nine minutes of your day you fat sack of crap
>>275107159
>so what kinda person are you
>well I enjoy video games in my off time
you know, like not sounding autistic
or even better hiding your power levels entirely like a smart person and not even mention your hobby as the first indicator as to what your personality is defined as.
not
>o Bro I game all day, I'mma gamer u no
>>275106467
http://85.17.122.176/bookreader.php/139008/The_Letters_of_J.RRTolkien.pdf
Letter 211 towards the end, answering the last of the questions. I would copy and paste but it's being a pain in the ass and sticking in a bunch of weird line breaks.
>>275106994
another words you don't like knowing what's going on
>>275107652
>another words
>>275107652
not him but more like when you play a fantasy game and end up playing CoD with sword and bandits with some trolls and a shitty Wyvern called a "dragon" you end up a little salty
I've always low fantasy was classified as fiction with magic that could usually be mistaken for for coincidences or trickery.
Shit like clairvoyance, love potions and minor feats of telepathy and telekinesis.
I haven't played anything in Elder Scrolls before Morrowind back in 2009.
I want to get back into this series but don't know where to start. There's the base games, the dlc, but I hear that the games are riddled with bugs and I have to download fan-patches.
anyone wanna help a new guy out?
pic related, a morrowind torrent i found.
