How come CoD gets called out on its shit but Pokemon doesn't?
Pokemon is actually good
It doesn't come out every year, for one
>>271102091
It basically does. Main games often come out each year with maybe 1 year gap sometimes but I'm sure even that's filled with a Mystery Dungeon or something.
Hell, Pokemon is even worse than CoD. 2 versions of the same game come out and then a combined version the year after for the most part. That's some straight bullshit.
>>271102091
>Platinum-2008
>HG/SS-2009
>Black and White-2010
>B&W2-2012
>X&Y-2013
>ORAS-2014
And those are just the mainline games.
A better question is why do you faggots care if people bitch about either game?
Pokemon isfun
>>271101912
Nintenyearolds
That's the only answer I can give you OP.
>it's okay when Nintendo does it!
Because one is for kids and the other is made for adults who think they are kids
>>271101971
This basically
It doesn't suck op. If you don't like it thats just a preference issue. Millions of players would like to disagree with you.
>You can use this logic for C.O.D
Yeah but the subtle difference here is uh
Pokemon is actually good
>>271102402
>>271102472
Huh. Didn't realise there had been so many recently
>>271102547
Pokemon is the CoD of RPGsAnd I'm saying this as someone who still plays that shit. It's inexcusable.
>>271102601
*one is made for kids who think they are adults
ftfy
>>271102472
Remakes aren't mainline.
>>271102601
>mfw I don't know which one is which
This actually improves with every release.
>>271102681
Close enough.
Gotta love the card game though. Great art on your Pokemon waifu cards
>How come Michael Bay gets called out on his shit but Stephen Spielberg doesn't?
Thats what you sound like OP. That sentence above, thats you.
>>271101912
What people say when they think Pokemon games are all the same is the way it progresses and the core mechanics, which is exactly the same thing people complain about in Call of Duty. However, Pokemon also have more graphical updates (note that you can have changes in graphics and art style without changing the engine) than the CoD series had as of late. The Pokemon series adds some small mechanic changes that fans who delve into the meta game would notice easily. Not only that, but each Pokemon game adds a certain number of new Pokemon. Some people may think that many pokemon are just copies or lazy, but believe it or not there's a real logic behind the new pokemon that are added. In addition to what I said, there are quite a few differences in the environment between the games.
I may not be an expert on CoD, but the amount of content added per Pokemon game is far greater than you think, and goes beyond what most casual players notice. Whether or not fans like it is a different story.
>>271101912
There's a thread on /vp/ and the people there are making comparisons to COD actually. You have to understand that Pokemon is in a position where nothing can ruin them money-wise. They could release hardcore sex in one game and it would still sell. Their invincible.
>>271102472
Going by English release dates:
Platinum - 2009
HG/SS - 2010
B/W - 2011
B2/W2 - 2012
X/Y - 2013
OR/AS - 2014
>>271101912
>Pokemon came out when /v/ were children
>COD4 came out when /v/ were angsty teenagers in high school.
>/v/ is full of manchildren
I think I solved the case here, chaps.
>>271102821
Zero balance whatsoever. Power creeps harder than YGO.
That's saying alot.
>>271102402
Pokemon's worse because they both share the same focus on MP-impacting tweaks, and adding new tools for combat, but Pokemon just recycles the same story ad nauseum.
COD campaigns are usually a bag of wank, but at least they try and vary their plots, characters, and locales.
>>271101912
Pokemon actually gets hated for being too different from the earlier games.
Let's get this shit started.
3 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 6 > 1
Pokemon fans are a little different methinks. I mean yeah containment board, but what I really mean is that a lot more of them in Pokemon stay loyal to it for a long while and treat it more as a hobby.
>>271102881
Pokegirl sex game when?
>>271102986
The most recent set and the next one are finally changing the metagame. Charazard ended up being shit and so did Lucario
Pokemon got boring I don't know how you guys have fun with that shit.
I stopped playing after pearl and diamond.
>>271102887
It's OK when Nintendo does it.
>>271103037
>vary their plots, characters, and locales.
You're really going to have to explain how cod does this and pokemon doesn't without overly simplifying one side.
>>271101912
Pokémon is like an updated version of chess that comes with an happy world full of happy people. A place i don't mind to visit every time.
Call of Duty is a brown and gray shooter where you kill other people online and feel the adrenaline but in reality, it's just artificial because it's identical to many of the other shooters you've experienced before.
>thought I grew up missing something playing Ultima, Everquest, SWG, and everything else.
>everyone at school playing pokemon.
>finally decide to emulate all the old ones.
>get one of each pokemon on my team
>nothing ever beats me
>game is easy
>each game is a small improvement (graphics, more pokemon, more items.) but basically the same game.
>just interchange the enemy goal everytime.
Good thing I didnt play them back then, I would of missed a lot of interesting things.
Im not saying CoD is better than Pokemon but its nothing better either.
>>271103163
2 > 4 > 6 > 1 > 3 > 5
>>271101912
What do you mean OP? please specify.
>>271103163
B2/W2 > HG/SS > Pt = B/W > X/Y > FR/LG > E > G/S/C > R/S > Y > R/B > D/P
>Overall gen
5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 1
>Region
Sinnoh > Kalos > Kanto > B2/W2 Unova > Johto > B/W Unova > Hoenn
>>271103037
Pokemon varies its plot as much as CoD. Team Rocket wanted to make money, Team Aqua/Magma wanted to expand the sea/land, Team Galactic wanted to create a new world, Team Plasma wanted to rule by being the only ones with Pokemon and Team Flare wanted to gas all the jews.
If you're going to claim that you have to beat 8 gyms and then face the elite 4, you can claim that CoD always consists of levels that you need to clear one after the other.
>>271103163
4>2>5>1>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>6
>>271101971
Tens of millions of bros would disagree and tell you to grow the fuck up. This is about the time that I hope you realize your opinion, along with theirs, doesn't mean shit to anyone but you/them.
You can fap to almost anything from Pokemon
CoD, not really
>why do Nintendo games never get called out on being rehashes
First day on /v/? Fuck off retard
>>271103375
>pic
what the fuck, is livejasmin actually a thing? i thought it was just that popup i always get on mfc
>Be me
>Go back and play pokemon on phone emulator for the nostalgia
>Play it at 3x speed
>Still boring
>Entire game consists of mashing A
>No thought required
>Training 1 pokemon is vastly superior to getting a mixed team
>It doesn't even matter what move you use because you still one-shot everything
>Absolutely mind-numbing shit
Everyone on /v/ is just a weeaboo so they will suck the dick of anything Japanese designers put out, even if it is the same mind-numbing rehashed shit from 20 years ago.
>>271101971
>>271102605
Pokemon is not good, fuck nintendrones
most casual piece of shit out there
>>271103549
Ok I see this all the time, but what makes Plat so much better than DP that it's so much higher up. It's basically the same game but with graphical fixes and bug fixes and runs better.
>>271103596
A bro that doesn't Pokemon, A bro that can't Pokemon is no friend of mine
>>271101912
wheredoyouthinkweare.jpg
>>271103375
>get one of each pokemon on my team
just from that, I know you've never actually played a pokemon game
>>271103783
It's cool, because he thinks you're a faggot, then he fist bumps his CoD bro and fucks some sorority slut.
The difference is that you fist bump your pokebro and either bang a fat chick or jack off to a 12 year old girl that collects imaginary monsters.
Saying this as someone who enjoys CoD and Pokemon (and really, all games that are well made).
>>271101912
CoD takes a year to give a 6 hour game and multiplayer with no real particular changes.
Pokemon at least gives us a pretty damn long game with multiplayer with an ridiculously expansive meta that changes every single game.
>>271103724
>be me
Fuck off back to reddit already
>B-but it's okay when Nintendo does it!
All of you retards can leave and never come back anytime you know.
>>271103549
B2/W2 > HG/SS > B/W > E > X/Y > FR/LG > E > G/S/C > R/S > P > Y > R/B > D/P
sinnoh is just the worst region, with the worst new pokemon, with the worst assortment of old pokemon, with the worst gym leaders, and the worst legendaries, and the worst evil team, and the worst story
>>271103724
>Entire game consists of mashing A
There's so much potential in the monster raising RPG thing that they haven't tapped into yet. And they don't have to, because this shit still sells way too well for them to have to do anything to it.
Not to mention the amount of hair triggered autists that will completely shit themselves over every insignificant change, which already happens with the very minor incremental updates in each game.
It's a real shame.
>mfw Pokemon is almost 20 years old
>>271103958
>being a normalfag
>>271103724
Play hard mode hacks like blaze black/volt white you retard
>>271103774
Diamond and Pearl don't have the breeding adjustments that HG/SS added.
Also their combat engine runs slower.
>>271103991
>Implying /v/ is any different to /r/gaming
>>271103724
>Entire game consists of mashing A
You've just described nearly every JRPG. Besides Pokemon's strength comes from the fact that it's so easy, you can clear it with nearly any team you can come up with. You can give yourself self-imposed challenges and the game is still possible. The story itself is pretty weak, but Pokemon has something that very few other RPGs have: replay value. If you treat Pokemon as a game that you just have to complete so that you can cross it off your backlog, you'll see that it's a lacklustre RPG with little challenge. If you let yourself be more creative, you can have a lot of fun.
>>271104187
>potential in monster raising RPG they haven't tapped into yet
like?
>>271104232
>mfw I have no friends and several mental disorders, spending all my time in my room at the age of 23 (which I turned 2 days ago and nobody remembered)
>>271104192
>Pokemon Red/Green is 18 years old
>Pokemon Red/Green is older than 75% of /v/
>>271101912
Pokemon gets shit on ALL the time.
/vp/ practically hates Game Freak for fucks sake.
Overall I do think that it's easier to hate on CoD because of how big it is. Pokemon, despite being pretty fucking huge, is still fairly niche as far as mainstream shit goes. You're not going to find very many dudebros playing pokemon out in the world.I personally love the modern games but only because of the online and stream lined breeding. There's something very satisfying about breeding a team of perfect IV/EV pokemon and doing well online. Pokemon X/Y RPG-wise was terrible. The story was short and way too easy. The dungeons required NO thought to go through.
>>271104242
But Nintendo doesn't make these. I am criticizing Nintendo here. Also I have played a hardmode hack, found it boring. If I ever want a pokemon fix I'll go on pokemon showdown.
>>271101912
But it does. Case in point, this thread.
>>271103596
>caring about dudebro opinion
>>271103679
amen
>>271104473
it's essentially a game where you raise monsters, choose their attacks, and have them do shit for you
games likeni no kuniand even bomberman tournament have more fleshed out monster systems
>>271104587
>4chan practically hates 4chan for fucks sake.
FTFY.
>>271104664
>caring about neckbeard shut-in opinion
See how easy that was?
>>271103226
Bring back EX's and making them all basic was the worst idea they ever had
>>271104797
>caring about anyone's opinion other than your own
I don't like COD. I like Pokemon.
>>271103226
It's a wasted effort. Power creep will always exist because money.
>>271103375
>implying you can have one of every single one on your team
Don't lie. You've never played pokemon have you?
>>271104869
This. I can't this enough.
>>271104760
I don't think either of those games have a fraction of the customization potential or breeding stuff that pokemon has.
>muh real time combat
if that's what this is about, then fuck off.
>>271104502
happy birthday ^_^
don't feel sad
nobody's perfect
go and discover things to do outside your room that make you happy
get a job, take a class, make friends and your life will get much better
best wishes~
>>271103971
>expansive meta
>meta being a good thing in the first place
>>271103375
Did she die?
>>271101912
"rehashes" never bothered me, i just dont like call of duty that much
>>271103449
I think OP is talking about how the CoD series gets called out on being repetitive, with minimal changes between entries in the franchise but the Pokemon series doesn't.
Clearly OP has not spent much time on /v/.
>>271104760
IVs, EVs, Natures and items allows you to customise your Pokemon a fair bit in battle. You can have the same Pokemon perform a completely different role based on its moves and stat-spread. You don't exactly need these strategies in-game but you'll need them if you want to do well battling against other players. People seem to forget that the multiplayer aspects is what made Pokemon a worldwide phenomenon, not the single-player aspects (it's a pretty mediocre RPG in terms of single-player stuff).
>>271101912
because the mainstream thinks anyone who claims to like pokemon is just being ironic when in reality there are actually adults playing pokemon. It essentially just falls under the radar
>>271102556
>it's okay when Nintendo does it!
The quickest way to get people to ignore you.
>>271103163
2>3>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>4>others
>>271101912
They both get shit on you fucking retard. Stop trying to start shit. That's like saying "What is your favorite Final Fantasy title?" Just don't do it.
>>271105802
You mean the quickest way to get people mad.
>>271103163
5>6>4>2>3>1
>>271103226
best girl
>>271101912
Because it has the best porn.
It is more for what Call of Duty represents rather than what it actually is.
Nobody hates it because it does the same thing over and over again that's dumb. (Although the fanbase is cancerous and the gameplay DOES get a little bit older)
CoD caused a shift in the industry that EVERYTHING had to be CoD. It is still like that. It touts itself as innovative and new to the video game world, and does jack shit to justify the claims.
Pokemon is pretty much aware of what it is. And the industry didn't suddenly turn into pokemon when pokemon was a hit. There hasn't been >10 years of pokemon style games clogging up the industry to appeal to the widest fanbase.
That's more or less why.
>>271101912
I see this thread everyday
>>271106208
>glasses
>cute short hair
>blonde
>works at a laboratory
>probably knows cuddle like a pro
Top tier indeed
>>271107186
she's also ditzy
![Black_White_Bianca[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/r2r7537.png "Black_White_Bianca[1].png")
Hips
>>271101912
>>271101971
Get the fuck out of here you god damn nintendope. This place is getting way too disgusting lately with the nintendo worship.
Why can't people learn to stop being biased fanboy faggots?
>>271101971
It's not though. Unless you really enjoy extremely simplistic rpgs.
>>271102556
>>271104345
>>271107360
This.
Pokémon has nicer, more memorable music each and every gen compared to CoD.
Pokémon currently has 721 choices of party members whereas CoD doesn't have nearly as much weaponry in comparison.
CoD has season passes, DLC, different editions and stuff like that all over the place.
Of course, there's new Pokémon games just about every year, but they introduce stuff that changes the experience most of the time like following-Pokémon, battle frontiers, super contests, all the stuff in BW2, mega-evolutions and now flying around the region on Mega Latios/Latias to access new areas. CoD has dogs, machines and...?
>>271107656
>100 posts
>already 50 posts defending it
>lol its no one
>>271101971
It's shit and you know it.
It's exactly like CoD in that it's the same fucking game as when it was first released.
>>271108853
>his
>>271107437
Mad as fuck
Both are complete shit and only exist to jew shekels out of idiots. There's no defending either of them.
>>271109018
>omg guys so many people
>but i have no source
>>271108853
Utter pleb.
>>271102601
I'm not sure I understand.
>>271108092
>look one site bumps the most popular posts, and the others dontdaily reminder that that is those two places censoring information from you
>>271101912
I see this thread like once a week though
>>271109081
Here we go again
>>271109270
the source is this thread. your like asking me to prove the sky is blue
look up, nigga
>>271109076
>omg why isn't my AAA western garbage liked here
>>271103163
1 > 2 >>>> the rest
>>271108092
>one is all of the posts
>one is "best" posts onry
I'm sure at the bottom of those other two threads were hundreds of GAMING IS SAVED AWWW YEAH GURL posts.
>>271101912
They actually add enough shit to keep it from being the same every games even if it is small things
>>271109476
As was said before, both series are nothing more than regurgitated shit.
[spolier]faggot[/spolier]
>>271103163
3>2=4>1>6>5
I don't get why everyone has such a boner for Gen 5. Was it just the copious amounts of sexy women?
>>271109821
That and best music.
>>271101971
cod is objectively good too lol
>>271103570
You're an idiot. the online alone puts 6 at least in the middle.
>>271102775
Debatable.
>>271103763
>casual
Hahaha, get a load of this guy. He can't appreciate the franchise that made gaming a Thing.
>>271109917
>objectively
>lol
>>271103570
3>2>6>5>1>4
>>271103724
>Training 1 pokemon is vastly superior to getting a mixed team
one of these retards again
>>271109912
The reason I placed 3 at the top there is in great part because of the music. There were tons of memorable tracks, while I remember literally nothing from Gen 5's lineup other than GHETSISGHETSISGHETSIS.
>>271110225
It gets good reviews and sales. It can't be objectively bad.
The only good part of pokemon is the music and adventure. The gameplay is complete shit, and if your game relies on meta shit you don't have a well designed game. You designed it for bored autists with nothing better to do than breed their gay little monsters all day and grind.
Call of Duty is pretty stale shit, but at least the campaigns are always exciting and fun, and the multiplayer actually brings the player competition and difficulty. Its a basic game and formula but it works well, Pokemon is just completely boring.
>>271110359
By that logic the Wii is the best console ever made
>>271103724
>Training 1 pokemon is vastly superior to getting a mixed team
Why would you intentionally bore yourself? Is your backlog so bad you need to speed through everything?
>>271110357
A lot of people loved almost all of Gen 5's tracks. My personal favorite is the BW2 Champion theme.
>>271110467
better than the other options last gen bar a pc
>>271110467
I never said CoD is the best franchise. So no, by that logic it wouldn't mean that.
if I wanted to buy a pokemon game for 3DS what should I get, I never played it
>>271101971
Except it fucking isn't, at it's core the single player is steamrolled by rock-paper-scissors, the same concepts and ideas have been recycled since the very beginning of the series, the game is made to appeal to the most casual of audiences, yearly releases that barely do anything new besides maybe adding a new gimmick etc.
There are tons of reasons for why pokemon should be considered shit, but people will buy them because they're expansion packs, they don't want to feel left out, they HAVE to collect everything, nostalgia, or other bullshit reasons. They're terrible shallow games that are pretty much guilty of everything CoD has been prosecuted for. People's standards are set so low that basic animations and 3D are supposed to be a technical marvel when other games are doing the exact same thing perfectly fine without nearly as many framerate drops. It's to the point where remakes are hype up just about as much as mainline "sequels" which is ridiculous.
Also competitive play is a joke for the most part, people like to pretend that there's TONS of pokemon so no team should be the same! Yet most people's teams either consist of starters, pseudos, and legendaries, or the 30 or so pokemon that are actually viable picks because some of them are so broken that they barely have any method of countering them besides having a specific pokemon.
>>271102857
Spielberg is such a fucking hack. I'd rather watch transformers 3 than ET any fucking day
>>271110307
3 is the magic number
>>271110357
>the legendary themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRbz7wCbQI
>the gym leader theme (minus the last pokemon shit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K4_aSOexfU
>plasma theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp3FtEaV7tQ
Those are some of the ones I remember the most, but I know there were others I really liked.
>>271110856
This. You can essentially win any pokemon game with a starter, and 1 physical and special attacker. It doesn't even matter the type really.
Pokemon does, a lot. It just isn't as prominent as Cowadoody because cowadoody is played by every 12 year old on the planet whereas the majority of Pokemon players have been playing since gen 1. So it's only natural that cowadoody gets talked about more.
>>271103163
3>5>1>2>6>4
4 is soulless. 5 had the right idea by only including new pokemon until postgame.
>play blue
>all you need is grind charmander to win
>play crystal
>all you need is cyndaquil to win
>play ruby
>all you need is mudkip to win
>play fire red
>all you need is charmander to win
>play diamond
>all you need is piplup to win
And that's when I dropped the series. All you need is to grind the starter and maybe get one other guy so you can take on the boss who is the same element as your starter. 7 years later and now people are here getting hyped for 3D models, basic animations, and frame rate drops? I'm glad I dropped this shit series.
>>271111098
>this fucking guy right here
I bet you grind a ridiculous amount of time and spam items too, you idiot.
I'll send a pic of my tits a kind anon willing to buy me a dominos e-gift card so I can order a pizza. Let me know for email
>>271103163
5 > 2 = 3 > 1 > 4 > 6
>>271101912
It does?
>>271110536
Had to look it up again. I guess that one's okay, but it's a bit too upbeat for me. I prefer to have a final battle getting my blood pumping rather than relaxing it. Still better than Alder's, who had the most disappointing Champion theme in the franchise's history. And he was such a bro-tier character, too.
In terms of Champion themes, my picks would be 4>1>3>2>6>5II>5I
>>271110428
All games have a metagame you dumb nigger. COD's metagames typically boil down to "use guns that do the most damage"
>>271111098
>>all you need is Chimchar to win
FTFY
>>271101912
Because there is one game per console generation except for BW2, as opposed to at least seven games since 2006.
>>271101912
Mainly it's the audience. All the frat bros talk about how great CoD is so when the average /v/ faggot comes home they are already fuming about CoD and how it gets unneeded praise. One mention and /v/ goes into orbit.
If Pokemon were liked by frat fags and given perfect scores by western "gaming news" sites, /v/ would shit on it all the time too.
>>271111374
>this shit again
This fucking drivel doesn't mean anything if they feel the exact same every generation (also see smash bros, mario kart, nsmb).
>>271111183
Not really, unless you count wiping out the trash trainers they pepper around routes in one shot always as grinding.
>>271111098
The most "efficient" way to play pokemon is to grab one or two fast or bulky pokemon that learn swords dance (or nasty plot, but that's more rare) at a low level. Boost at the start of any remotely hard looking battle and one hit kill everything. This means ditch your starter at level 15 or so.
Excadrill breaks gen 5 ingame as much as it did competitively.
Or if you're playing red, just get a slowbro with amnesia and enjoy facerolling the elite four at level 45.
>>271111098
When will pokemon add an experience system like WoW's which gives you increasing less exp for being higher levels than the pokemon you killed?
That would easily solve the problem of 1 pokemon easymode runes
>>271111693
Black and White did that.
>>271111693
It already sort of does by increasing the XP/level up requirements.
>>271111693
They did that in B/W but dropped it in X/Y for some reason.
Because if you actually fucking play Pokemon outside of single-player, you'd know that it changes plenty
>>271111040
I disliked the Plasma theme for the first BW. Too...poppy? I dunno how to describe it. Sounds like a ton of little pops among something softer, so it clashes to me. BW2 improved it.
Couldn't remember the Gym Leader's theme at all. Maybe in part because of the last Pokemon shit, but again, it just sounds too soft. It's nice, yes, but it doesn't stick in my head like past gen's music, you know?
The legendary music's pretty good, though. But in my case I guess it slipped my mind because it mocked me SO GODDAMN MUCH while I was trying to get a good Victini... Repeating it endlessly got on my nerves, so it's my own fault there.
>>271111546
>XY feels the same
Go back and play Red or Blue.
They're unplayable messes and probably the worst JRPG released on the Game Boy. I'm amazed that Pokemon was even successful, considering that Red and Green were even worse.
>>271106141
Yeah, all those angry replies you got almost derailed the thread.
>>271111909
and funnily enough it is consistently shit
>"competitive" fucking POKEMON
are you f'real nigger? what the h*ck
>>271101912
Pokemon is literally a TCC mixed with a traditional turn based rpg
Each new games is more a a new card set than a whole new experience, so it would be expected for them to be the same.
Not that this model is a good or bad thing, but it is what it is and helps give pokemon it's flavor.
>>271111898
It was explained that certain versions have cut features because Gamefreak wants to make each game a "unique" experience.
>>271111098
you mean
>pick water starter to win
Charizard and Cyndaquil got bad in their games
>>271101912
Yes, it would be nice if Pokemon actually did something new but no, they have a winning formula so there's no reason to. Same deal with CoD.
>>271111546
There is literally nothing wrong with releasing a "rehash" once every five years. People wouldn't complain about CoD if that's how that series worked.
This is because there are tangible differences over said time period, as opposed to yearly releases, which don't have time or money to substantially improve anything.
>>271112052
>CoD can be competitive
>Pokemon can't
>>271101912
I agree, also I am not sure why they add so many Pokemon each generation it would have made sense to add maybe 20 per generation.
Anyway things you could improve on the current set of Pokemon games (The Red,Blue original style ones):
1. Pick what generation you would like to start in which also changes your starter pokemon (Charmander, Squirtle, Bulbasaur are best starters!)
Why this? Well it keeps us genwunnas happy while giving us access to the newer pokemon and people who only like newer gens to be happy as well.
2. Allow the catching\story\quest catching and evolving of every pokemon possible, instead of only allowing some things happening in trade.
This just makes sense in the world of pokemon, there is no lore that splits pokemon up into two planets that can communicate.
3. Add options for battle styles
Why must I have a 2v2 battle if I don't enjoy them? Let me choose a 1v1 style for the game if that's what I like.
>>271112040
Why you acting like you got the perfect response nigga?
the game is so easy that you can beat it with 1 dude, it's not "fun" to pick up 5 other pokemon and then grind their levels and then use them (for no fucking reason because you don't have to actually do this to win the game)
how is that fun? how is it "boring yourself" to win the game with 1 pokemon if you can? sounds like the game is just shitty if you can beat the whole thing basically without even trying.
>>271102472
wow. thats actually 2 each year.
>>271103163
5>6=3>4>2>1
ORAS>BW2=BW=XY>Plat>HGSS>Emerald>FRLG>Outdated shit
>>271112295
I know this is bait but it's such sheer concentrated bait that I can't help but be angry
>>271112282
Who said any of that? Competitive CoD past 2 or 3 is also a joke. And yeah, CoD even today is probably more suited to competitive play than pokemon is because EVERY SINGLE MOVE IN POKEMON IS RNG-BASED.
EVERY.
SINGLE.
ONE.
TAKE THIS FROM A NIGGER WHO PLAYED "COMPETITIVELY" FOR 12 MONTHS AND REACHED TOP 300 ON THE SMOGON LADDER FOR THE LAST 3 MONTHS OF HIS CAREER;
>>>"COMPETITIVE" POKEMON IS UTTER SHIT<<<
>>271109821
Gen 5 is great all around
>Good Pokemon
>Infinite TMs
>Cool characters
>Great Postgame on BW and BW2
>Great Music
>>271112040
What does that have to do with anything? So it's actually better to just gimp yourself and "pretend" that the game has any sort of challenge because it's supposed to be fun? You could beat the game as slowly as possible and it doesn't make a bit of difference, just because you realize you don't have to play the game like a complete retard doesn't mean you're speedrunning the game. It just means the game is poorly designed and after regurgitating the same shit over 10 times it's easy to see how flawed and void of difficulty the main game is.
>>271112509
Risk Management :^)
>>271112454
I know that feel.
>>271112454
It's that transcendent kind of b8.
>>271112509
I should mention I was on the smogon OU ladder as well, so I was literally best in the fucking world on this stupid shit & I am telling you it is a garbage game with a garbage meta [every single generation, the meta is garbage, doesn't matter if you are playing 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6; all the metagames are boring garbage in their own ways].
>>271103037
Who plays CoD for the story?
I'm seriously asking because you'd have to completely lack self awareness to enjoy them beyond a Mystery Science Theater 3000 pisstake.
CoD really exists to justify its mulitplayer mode... and I don't know how that is seeing as I've never played it myself, but footage paints it as frantic and meaningless. Everyone dies in one shot on really tiny maps.
How Pokemon could be improved:
-Make it harder
-Make supereffective attacks do less than 2x damage so that the game is not a glorified version of rock paper scissors
-An endgame area where Pokemon can be trained extremely quickly so people can train to level 100 in less than 10 hours
-More places to explore in endgame
>>271112937
Username or you're a faggot who knows nothing about Pokémon.
>>271112937
>>271112509
>smogon
No wonder you think the meta is garbage.
>>271101912
When will they add 6 pokemon online flat battles?
It's all I want
Why is it always only 3 pokemon flat battles. And if you want 6 pokemon, you have to level every goddamn one of your pokemon to 100.
Gamefreak please
>>271112997
So you want the game to be a grind with a focus on raids?
nope
>>271112997
>-Make it harder
Ok, How?
>-Make supereffective attacks do less than 2x damage so that the game is not a glorified version of rock paper scissors
Suddenly, All bulky Pokemon run supreme and Stall takes over.
>-An endgame area where Pokemon can be trained extremely quickly so people can train to level 100 in less than 10 hours
For what purpose would anyone need to get to level 100 in a hurry?
>-More places to explore in endgame
I take it that XY is your 1st Pokemon game?
>>271112997
>-Make supereffective attacks do less than 2x damage so that the game is not a glorified version of rock paper scissors
I'm the competitive smogon guy, guess what you just did? You just broke the fucking game.
With weak super effective attacks, boosting now becomes not only the norm but the mandatory strat. Baton pass will come back into full force. Also Mega Mence is even more broken than he is now, with absolutely nothing being able to stop him (literally nothing will stop him, it's not an exaggeration at all to say this).
>>271113092
Because Pokemon is the Halo to SMT's Tribes.
Literally, even. Have you played SMT? Things move so fast it's fucking ridiculous, MC can die in seconds, which is how long a single turn takes anyway.
>>271103375
Everyone SHUT UP
What happened here?
>>271113092
Showdown or get some friends on 3DS.
>>271113039
Explain which non-smogon meta is better and detail the rules?
>>271113235
XY actually do have an area where you can get a team of 6 to lvl 100 in 10 hours.
>>271112509
>EVERY SINGLE MOVE IN POKEMON IS RNG-BASED
Right, like tackling someone irl is going to hurt the exact same amount every time. I see no issues with this, especially considering that the metagame today is all about maintaining an entry hazard monopoly and OHKOing everything.
>>271112630
The point is that even in the original games you had 150 critters you could play with. It boggles my mind that even now, when there's over 700 of the little bastards that you'd want to limit yourself to just one, doing the same thing over and over AND OVER again. You clearly don't understand how to get the most out of a game.
>>271113363
The one that doesn't ban pokemon because 'a bloo bloo too stronk'
>>271113401
And again, why do you need to be at level 100 in such a hurry?
>>271113338
Showdown can't make me feel superior for breeding and EV training a team from scratch.
And once you play your friends once or twice, there's no real reason to do it again.
>>271113030
If you were around in Gen 4 and 5 then you will remember a certain person whose name is based on Robots. Pretty obv who I am if you were around then, if not then I don't really care.
>>271113540
Competition. After you beat the game in XY there's fuck all to do but go to the Cafe and train your Pokemon.
>>271113540
because
>>271113092
>>271113536
Why do you want overcentralization in the metagame?
>/v/ ganging up on pokemon, making good points, and calling it shit
I never thought I'd see the day
Thank you for this wonderful saturday night guys
>>271113610
>>271103163
1,2&3 better be in the top 3 of peoples lists. I don't care in which order.
>>271113659
>>271113703
All of your Pokemon's levels go to 50 however.
Training to lvl 100 is a waste of time.
>>271113454
>Right, like tackling someone irl is going to hurt the exact same amount every time.
??? Doesn't matter what happens in real life. Point still stands, the whole game is RNG-based. Random shit is not healthy for competitive environments. Random shit will propel worse players over better players. And in pokemon it's so obnoxious that it's actually consistently that way. Or to put it more accurately, the mos skilled player will not float to the top consistently, he will be put down by random game mechanics and hindered in this way. It's not a competitive game.
And you're wrong, the "metagame" today is all about putting Mega Salamence on the field.
>>271113454
I had no intention of posting in this boring thread but your reasoning is so blatantly retarded that I just had to tell you.
>like tackling hurts the same each time
Is THiS your justification for RNG mechanics in a video game? Even dotards aren't this pathetic.
>>271112454
>>271112680
>>271112826
It's not bait, I honest to god think more options are better for video games.
>>271113898
>All of your Pokemon's levels go to 50 however.
Only in 3v3 battles. That's the point
The entire game is based around 6v6, but if you want to do 6v6 online you need a full team of level 100s
>>271101912
Is anyone accusing AW of being to samey?
>>271102601
Because one is for kids who think they are adults and the other is made for adults who think they are kids
Is that what you meant?
>>271103163
Not counting remakes, excluding Gen 6:
3 > 2 > 5 > 1 > 4
>>271113747
What good points?
>>271113862
Those 3 gens are heavily outclassed by the other gens.
>inb4 muh charm and other nostalgiafag nonsense.
>>271113942
Mega salamence doesn't even exist yet.
>>271113862
1 is a terrible game that only sold by virtue of being on the Game Boy. You have to have some Nostalgia Blinds to enjoy the game.
2 improves on most of 1's vast array of technical flaws while adding a lot of content.
3 is the game that perfected Pokemon and made it the standardized game we enjoy today.
>>271113235
>Ok, How?
I don't know, make Gym Leaders and trainers stronger? Inb4 you can just grind.
>Suddenly, All bulky Pokemon run supreme and Stall takes over.
I never bothered with competitive Pokemon because of how much effort it takes to get into. Which leads to the next point.
>For what purpose would anyone need to get to level 100 in a hurry?
To get into competitive play quicker? I didn't even mention getting IVs and egg moves.
>I take it that XY is your 1st Pokemon game?
No I've played since Gen 1, I still want more to do.
>>271114058
Nope.That's a lie.
>>271102472
>3rd version
>remake
>New game
>Sequel
>New game
>remake
>>271101912
Because no none expects you to take Pokemon seriously
>>271114185
Every time a new game comes out, I assume they would finally add 6v6 flat battles, but they never do
I can't understand why
>>271114054
>would have been great to add 20 per generation
>believe that options are good for video games
I want you to go and stay go.
>>271113536
Right, so you call Smogon boring when Smogon (in the past) simply banned outrageous shit so that the entire game wouldn't be Garchomp vs. Excadrill every game? You can always tell if someone hasn't played a single fucking day of competitive pokemon when they say shit as ignorant as what you are spouting. Without Smogon rules, every game would be Excadrill Scizor Garchomp, WITH NO VARIATION WHATSOEVER. These pokemon are (were) simply BETTER than others and if you don't use them YOU ARE BAD AND WILL LOSE.
Smogon today is fucking shit because they went ban-happy over menial shit, but in generations 4 and 5 they were only fostering a healthier competitive environment. It is a fucking fact that excadrill in the gen 5 meta was too fucking strong with permanent sand storm, if you were never a serious battler I wouldn't expect you to understand that; you should shut your fucking mouth though with your silly ignorance.
>>271110545
lol
>>271114181
>I don't know, make Gym Leaders and trainers stronger? Inb4 you can just grind.
You can give them all the tools in the world and they will still be shit.
>I never bothered with competitive Pokemon because of how much effort it takes to get into. Which leads to the next point.
Ingame or competitive, lowering the damage of super effective moves will bring more harm than good.
>To get into competitive play quicker? I didn't even mention getting IVs and egg moves.
You don't need to grind to 100 for online play.
>No I've played since Gen 1, I still want more to do.
Like what we had in BW and BW2?
>>271114345
>Garchomp vs Excadrill
No.
>>271112617
- There's only a handful of good Pokemon in gen 5, imo. We got some awesome ones like Galvantula and Darmanitan, but then there's crap like Sawk, Vanilluxe, and Cobalion.
- Infinite TMs is great, I'll give you that. But it also makes HMs kinda crap in that you still need a Move Deleter.
- I'll argue with you here. Very few of the characters were actually good. N? Yes. Cheren and Bianca? Okay. Ghetsis? ...Possibly. But the Gym Leaders? Nope. Marlon, Roxie, the Trio, Elesa, Clayton, etc. do fuck all. You fight them, and that's it. Maybe one or two open a path for you. The Seven Sages, Shadow Triad, and Hugh were also all equally shallow.
If you want characterization, I cite gen 4 as having done it better. The Gym Leaders aren't just roadblocks, they're actually people with lives that you meet while you're travelling. Well, okay, only in Platinum.
As for the music, I've already said my piece. It's mostly a lot softer than past soundtracks, and nothing really stood out for me personally.
>>271114102
Spoken like a true faggot. He exists on simulators and it doesn't matter which rule set or metagame you use (if any at all), Mega Mence will dominate. It's not a prediction it's a fucking fact. Once Mence is released in the "real game" you will see very quickly that anyone in 1v1 battles who doesn't use Mence loses automatically, it is easily the most broken pokemon Gamefreak has ever released aside from 600+ BST legendaries.
>>271101912
It does, pretty much every pokemon thread on /v/ has one mention of it.
>>271114345
all these are good reasons why gens 1 and 3 were and always will be the best metas
>>271114254
They did, you just need friends.
>>271101912
>>271114557
Good job explaining yourself, you are really coherent and not a fucking incomprehensible autist faggot at all.
