Name a more bro tier developer.
>Makes champions and skins based on community feedback
>Actively communicates to fanbase unlike most devs
>Has the best esports scene and has made it mainstream
>inb4 M-M-MUH VULVA
wasnt this a thread yesterday?
go back to lurking fag
Wow, it has been months since I played League.
Next post convinces me to go back in or go back to normal life.
>praising the company that is the biggest cancer to gaming
>>269555083
Name a more Jewish developer.
>Sells gameplay elements for grind currency or for Riot Points™, available for real world currency!
>Actively tells fanbase they are toxic for trying to inflict change on the stale as fuck meta that hasn't changed a bit in 3 years
>Has an esports scene that they force and bot twitch all over the place so they can brag about it with numbers that they pull out of their asshole
>inb4 M-M-MUH EA
>>269555083
>rending ward skins
>>269555083
>asks community what skins they want
>sells them to them for high prices.
Super bro.
>>269556058
literally this
anybody got those screencaps from the forums with the devs acting like total douchetard children? so basically all of them
>>269556058
OP's picture isnt valve
I respect Riot games for being tranparent as fuck, and more developrs could learn from their example, but they need to stop giving into EVERYTHING the community whines over.
People used to feel that way about Bungie, now it's all anti (warranted or unwarranted) Destiny shitposting
>>269556280
>I MUST UNLOCK LITERALLY EVERYTHING
Why?
Play the free champs, if you like them buy them, if you don't like them don't buy them, why would you feel the need to unlock every single thing in the entire game? Autism, maybe?
>>269555083
>bro tier
>raise price of already existing skins people for actual no reason despite it being that price for already a year
>lower a few terrible skins price some
>i-it's fair guys because the total amount shift is in your favor even though we know you don't like those
>>269556280
Not defending Riot but you should try Dawngate
Holy shit. The amount of earnable funbucks you need to unlock a character vs how much you actually earn per match is fucking ridiculous.
At least in League you can spam Dominion matches
>>269556674
Because other games give you the full roster for free, and dissenters refuse to believe a game can be balanced around something other than hard counters and matchups.
>>269556674
Because if you want to play ranked, you need at least 80% of champs to stay competetive and swap with faglords.
Also, d5 noob in thread.
>>269556674
As opposed to having literally everything from the start and not having gameplay advantages behind a paywall like DotA?
Fuck off, shill.
CCP Games.
>hosts a yearly convention
>during that convention goes drinking with fans
>listens to feedback and changes development
>keeps in touch with them on all forums
>plays the game they develop casually
>have supported the game for over 11 years
>keeps supporting failed projects for the small playerbase
>created the best sandbox game of all time
>iceland
>>269556674
If I were to play only the free champs, it would take me a year to finally be able to play everyone on the list, considering how they rotate people once week. 10 heroes is pretty sparse pickings, and that's if you have the runes for them.
>>269556674
You need to own 10 heroes to even play in ranked, which is a lot of IP you could be spending on runes.
I think it's pretty remarkable that Riot has only made one game, and yet, it's the best game ever made.
Thank you, Riot.
>>269556870
>CCP
>cares about the top 1%
>the rest can go get fucked because they dont buy Plex
Yeah na they are cunts and your retarded
>>269557060
Literally what?
>>269556954
No you need at least 16 heroes purchased.
6 bans, and 9 people pick before you.
>>269555083
>Name a more bro tier developer.
Damn shame about their strongarm tactics
>>269556870
Damn shame they've never made a single good game
>>269555960
Go eat shit, i mean, play LoL.
>>269556280
>>269556875
>>269556850
>>269556954
Riot made a tough choice on monetization early on in development and ditching the system at this point would result in a bunch of buttmad vets asking for refunds on 5 years worth of purchases.Runes should go the fuck away though, I don't care.
>>269555083
Meh
Oh also, best dev at the moment coming through.
>Amplitude games
>devs that develop games by literally discussing new features with community and putting on votes on what should be top priority
>No microtransactions, free addons, paid addons actually add shit
>Make strategy games instead of bullshit
>>269556870
those lying SJW cokehead shits ? you think they are bros ? fuck you you ignorant fuck.
>GOY : online
>best sandbox game ever
Fucking pathetic.
I know you weren't born when SWG was around, but this israelandic cash milking machine is fucking shit compared to it.
Go buy another $60 monocle you deluded cunt.
>>269557179
B-b-but Anon, EVE is the best game ever made!
I mean, it's more of a social platform than a game.
But the moment that articles like
http://themittani.com/news/hero-and-provibloc-sign-armistice
can be written seriously, there is something to be said for it.
>>269557154
When I played a long time ago you needed 10. When did they up it to 16? Did they nerf IP gains again?
>>269557246
>made a tough choice on monetization
It was the easiest choice of a lifetime
fucking pay2win and die out or f2p and die out, the choice was obvious
>>269557298
Man, I played Star Wars Galaxies for a bit, it just wasn't my speed.
EVE is more grand-scale sandbox, SWG was more individual-focused.
SWG definitely had some good stuff going for it, but there's a reason EVE still is around and SWG isn't.
Also:
>2014
>still mad about monocles
>>269557325
With EVE they only succeeded in getting ONE part of the game right.
How's the PvE in EVE? Oh that's right.
EVE fags will never admit it though.
>steal hero ideas from fans and then try to get rid of the evidence
>rig tournaments
>staff is full retard
>charge money for absolutely everything
>backed by chinks
>ban heroes
>no denying
>flash
and that's why when I want to kill time with a shitty game made for idiots I play dota
>>269557352
You used to be able to play free week champions in ranked, and there was only 4 bans instead of 6.
>>269557476
The PVE is fine for what it is.
It isn't a PVE focused game, the entire thing is built around player interaction.
You can call it lazy design, I call it brilliant design.
>>269556847
>80% of the champs
no... wtf. u just need to main one hero per role, one ADC, bruiser top, jungler, mid, support and u should be set..... you dont need them all
>>269555937
Riot marketing is rabid as fuck. How else did they take a shitty clone to south korean religion?
Now they're shilling on /v/.
>>269557536
I quit some time after they announced that, and what ended up happening was I could no longer play with my friends in ranked.
Then they all started playing Free chink MMO's and I lost interest in LoL some time after that.
>>269557454
>die out
>selling out Olympic stadiums 5 years later
But seriously, Rio had no idea if their game would catch and if cosmetics would be enough to keep the game alive. Literally every early decision they made proves that they had no idea the game would blow up like it did.
>>269557626
Are you fucking stupid mate?
I don't know what world do you live in, but in ranked, no one will ever give you your role. So yoi have to play all roles.
>>269555083
>patches in the most retarded changes they can imagine occsionally
>pretends to listen to the community when they change it 2 weeks later
>we did it reddit :^)
>>269557626
>only 50% of Characters touched
>7 picked/banned 80% of the time
>1 picked/banned 100% of the time
Thats some really poor design and balance.
I would hate to see the items used.
>>269557720
well in league ( i dont know how it is in dota 2 ) ALL champs are viable and you only need ONE OF EACH ROLE to play well in ranked, as long as you have the free weekly rotation + 5 champs of each role you should be absolutely ready for ranked. you can main absolutely WHOEVER YOU WANT
>>269555083
>f2p garbage
>bro
lel
http://archive.moe/v/search/text/a%20more%20bro%20tier%20developer./
>>269557626
still better than dota's stale as shit same 10 picks every game meta
>>269557712
>more people watching than playing
it's dead
>>269557712
Bullshit. Ask any senior staff and they'll tell you the same thing:
"Our bizops team makes apple marketing look like complete bitches"
They are 100% correct.
Also, you can see the exact turning point the game went from shitty Air app to polished content. Google riot and this eastern empire and add the word funding to it.
Nothing succeeds because it's good. It succeeds because some shitty company wants it to enough to put tons of money on it.
>>269555083
I think riot's douchebag moves cancel out all the bro moves it's done in the past. Inconsistent balancing, terrible "reworks" and unprofessional handling of customer support cases end up tipping the scales back.
However they've noticed that shit and are trying to get back on track.
7/10 at least you tried, riot.
>>269557889
>all champs are viable
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>269557626
>Nuh uh, the game isn't a grindfest! The game is so shallow and unbalanced that you only need the good ones!
Shit on one hand, shit on the other
>>269557950
At least he posted a pic to prove his claim. Where is yours?
>>269557889
>ALL champs are viable
>in league
point at him and laugh
>>269558003
>Also, you can see the exact turning point the game went from shitty Air app to polished content.
the game is still a shitty app, it just doesn't happen to use Adobe Air anymore
>>269558104
every game in ti4 is
Faceless Void
Razor
Skywrath Mage
Shadow Shaman
Doom
Brewmaster
Lycan
Tidehunter
Mirana
>>269558227
>>269558023
>>269558163
>Suddenly Ashe isn't viable
What happened, /v/?
>>269557476
I dunno. Star Wars Galaxies had pretty meh pve but people remember it for how 90% of the game was player run, similar to Eve
>>269558003
all hail our chinese overlords
>>269558163
>>269558023
Except they completely are though; the only reason not every champ was picked/banned was simply because the pros don't feel "comfortable" with some heroes. They have freedom to main and choose whatever champ they want to and of course they get better and more comfortable with that champ, and tend to use them more. You can't even fucking MAIN champs in dota because of the retarded "counterpick" system where if the enemy team has a hard counter to your main you are useless 99% of the time which is retarded... you should be able to use whoever you want WHEN you want to.
>>269555083
>assfaggots
>>269558285
Ashe was inexpensive and they couldn't do what Garena LoL did and charge 6300 for her. So they nerfed her arrow stun. Every other ranged carry has some better mechanic than what she has, and her initiation is garbage, so its not worth anything.
>>269558273
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you point at LoL and say the picks are not diverse yet you look at this dota shit and it says that half the champ pool has only been picked less than 5%... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA SO HYPOCRITE
>>269558003
I work for tencent's competitor in the states. Shit's baller as fuck. The chinese mmo addicts have made these fuckers so rich.
>>269558227
nice source
>>269558273
>92/101 picks total
>vs riot's shitty 50% pick rate
I wish LoLbabbies would understand that their joke of a game is just that instead of shilling here
>>269558285
harder to use in league of dash/gapclosers
>>269558370
Dude pros routinely laugh at how terrible some champions you are
All champions are viable in non professional casual play but at the higher tiers they can't risk a loss playing a sub par champion
>>269558454
Almost every hero picked though, unlike League.
>>269555083
>implying LoL's esport scene won't die the moment Riot doesn't feel like dumping truckloads of cash into it
There's no real pro scene in LoL that doesn't revolve around official tournaments. Once that monkey gets janked pro players will move to other games in a heartbeat.
>>269555083
>has the best esports scene
Fuck you /v/. Who fucking cares about ESHPORTSH? Who honestly gives a flying fuck about that corporate bastardization of modern corporate bastardized sports?
>>269558461
>almost half the entire champ pool literally just once out of hundreds of games leading to a skewed as shit pick percentage
>DOTA HAS MORE VIABLE CHAMPS GUYS :^))))))))))))
>>269558370
Pros are pretty good at figuring out what works well and whats a liability. The problem with LoL is that there are VERY clear outliers when it comes to picking an optimal strategy.
Yes technically, you can win with an unoptimal strategy, but why would you bother when you can pick something better. I used to win with the old shitty twitch, doesn't mean he was a good hero.
>>269557830
the image combined with the first bit of your post makes it seem like you think twitch is bad
>>269558370
>the only reason not every champ was picked/banned was simply because the pros don't feel "comfortable" with some heroes.
Oh totally, that's fucking why.
You're retarded.
If a character is worth picking, professionals will learn the them enough to "feel comfortable" with them so they can pick them when applicable. If half the pool doesn't get picked, that means 50% of them aren't viable. Period. If they were viable and had a use, they'd get picked.
Compare >>269557626 to >>269558273 and tell me everyone is viable in LoL again.
>>269558454
But I don't like Dota 2 either.
>>269558454
Only 9 heroes were never touched. LoL had 50% of its roster not even on there, with most of them being picked once.
>>269558461
Actually over the summer and worlds for League 87.4% of champions were picked or banned in professional play
>one of the companies responsible for flooding the PC community with cancer
>new waves of mustard rayce and just generally obnoxious faggots everywhere
>companies are now turning around to appeal to them making shit games based off f2p models
ASSFAGGOTS and their detestable ilk are the embodiment of leddit and are destroying us. I would rather watch PC die a slow painful death, by fading into obscurity than watch this happen.
Remember when we though Gaben was saving us? When more and more people started to get into PC gaymen? We had so much hope then, hope that it would be better.
But we let them in, and now we're paying for it.
>>269557961
>babys first bait
>>269556058
Activision?
Valve?
EA?
Whoever rerealeased GTA SA?
Ubisoft?
Bethesda?
Microshit?
>>269557524
>ban heroes
What are you talking about?
>>269558595
No you fucking idiot, DotA has counterpicks which is a lot better balanced that riot's shitty meta game that revolves around tanky dps gapclosing shield users, some without even mana because managing a resource on a single unit is JUST TOO MUCH for LoL kiddies :(
>>269558624
He used to be, which is why I still have that pic. That pic was from when Malady was the most worthless noob trap in the game.
I can't tell you how many people would play twitch, stack malady only to die because the damage and attack speed it gave was garbage, and the magic damage it did was reduced by magic armor. The dot didn't stack from multiple maladies, so you would only get the attackspeed and life steal. Believe me, I've seen some shit.I miss old mundo and all the old items that made him work
>>269558843
Only thing that comes close to being as cancerous are the hardcore CoD gamers.
>>269558919
>>269558941
I saw one of those matches. They're all sitting around a big table screaming at each other
>>269558782
>no refute
gonna pull some OFFICIAL RIOT NUMBERS at me with no actual source other than the asshole of Riot Games?
LeL is not nearly as big as they would like you to believe.
>>269556875
>254/500
Theres the problem this guy is terrible.
>>269555083
>VULVA
Holy shit cannot unread.
>>269557524
Why do people bring up flash? If you don't like flash don't use it. If you think its op use it.
I know this is bait, but I seriously can't understand how people even support these people with some of the shit they do.
>Despite raking in money hand over fist, they take ages to update old game elements and art assets.
>They STILL don't have a good mechanic to deal with disconnected players; a player can d/c at the fucking dedicated loading screen and they still go on with the match. Better just surrender after 20 forced minutes of rape and have it count as a loss!
>So many jew tactics to try and get players to spend RP; heroes don't fall in IP price until nearly THREE YEARS after release.
>Runes. I don't have to say anything more.
And this is all shit that pisses me off as a super casual ARAM only player. I imagine the 'serious' part of the game has so much more bullshit.
>>269559095
Most people hover around 50%, its where all the match making magic happens to keep the casuals playing, and is a "typical" experience. There is no problem because this is what an "average" user can expect.
Looking back to when I played LoL I had a pretty high win ratio. I realized that was because when people would play stupid shit like AP teemo, AP shaco, picking twitch, eve, or that chick with the tether that did nothing, I would just leave the game.
>>269559080
Yes, that's why nearly everyone with a laptop at uni has heard of/played LoL and only two insufferable neckbeards that play Dota.
>>269559012
>m-m-muh meta
priceless
>>269557830
this
Riot is better than any other company at admitting their mistakes in a timely fashion. However, they're bar none the worst at fixing them.
Evidence: Poppy is still a thing. AFKs are still a thing EVEN AFTER d2 showed Riot how to solve the issue. Riot's "lore" is still a thing. CC-immunity is now a thing.
>>269559249
Flash is an easy fix to a big problem most people have.Dying in a game where the objective is to kill people. It makes the game shitty
If you played the beta you would know that Cleanse did the same thing. EVERYONE took cleanse because it was bullshit, now everyone just takes flash for the same benefit.
>>269557626
that dead dead meta, i love listening to you shit eating morons that play lol constantly trying to justify playing a game that was originally made to be a "more accessible dota"
>>269559326
What game is there where the average user doesn't have around a 50% win rate
>>269559392
I remember a time where riot was showering people with RP for server fuck ups. It was a very long time ago. Hell do they even do stuff like pic related anymore?
>>269559326
>has riot given us too much
Oh god, my sides.
>>269555083
Vulva?
>>269559392
>Riot's "lore" is still a thing.
Actually they did say it was a mess and were planning on redoing it all
I'd say they're biggest problem when it comes to trying to fix problems is if there's a champion that's just tearing the game a new asshole at some point they nerf them into the dirt and say "We'll fix it later"
>>269559326
>do you have a learning disability
my fucking sides
morello is the most passive-aggressive cunt i've ever seen
>>269559502
I don't understand your question, because you seem to be asking it in a rhetorical fashion and its answered in the post you quoted.
>>269559540
what did they do? give everyone all champs for free?
>>269557278
Oh hey that reminds me, Dungeon of the Endless is officially released. Time to check it out.
>>269559379
>defending going random in a competitive queue
This shit wouldn't fly in a fighting tourney, why should it be allowed in a game where others rely on and have to play around your decisions?
Picking random on any game is an instant declaration of "I don't give a fuck."
>>269559634
You will notice he doesn't balance the game anymore. Matter of fact the only one in this picture I still hear from is phreak, and he sucks at lol. 1600 scrub for life.
>>269559353
>anecdotal evidence at your specific college meaning literally anything
;)
>>269559713
Yes, for a few days, they unlocked every champ because of issues on a patch day. It was a good day.
>>269555083
The most fascinating thing about LoL is that even with 50+ million "monthly players" it still makes less money than 10 year old WoW with less than 7 million subscribers. If Riot is king jew it is extremely bad at it.
>>269559782
wrong pic, I meant this one
>>269559786
Oh sorry. Let me just go take a few months off of classes to fly across the whole world and get a formal tally for you :^)
>you should play Dota 2, you get all of the characters for free
>of course we don't tell you that half of the characters are useless
>saw this thread yesterday
>now convinced it's just a troll baiting for replies
>dotards take the bait because they're easily butthurt
>dotards spew nothing but false information, misinformation, and how "casual" their game is while completely ignoring/denying anything said against their own game
Can't wait until DOTA2 goes the route of TF2 so the dotards will finally die down, this idiocity makes me ashamed to play DOTA2, it hurts even more when they actually think their game is somehow the sequel to defense of the ancients.
I had high hopes when this game was announced, and quickly disappointed when I realized icefraud made absolutely zero improvements, even implementing warcraft 3 engine limitations as features.
>>269559975
so you pull numbers out of your ass and then expect not to be laughed at, and then dodge any actual attempts to get anything close to real figures that are from a valid 3rd party source
typical of a shill, go advertise elsewhere you fucking drone
>>269560081
>what are counterpicks
I'll take Riot professional shills for $500 Alex.
>>269560408
>HE'S BLOWING ME THE FUCK OUT HE MUST BE A SHILL
jesus fucking christ dotards have to be the most sensitive, butthurt, defensive fanbase in the entire fucking world
>>269559080
Reminder: valve's numbers are just as credible
>>269560515
>>HE'S BLOWING ME THE FUCK OUT
except you were the one being blown the fuck out because you still are just dodging and name calling like a child.
I guess they are called LoLbabbies for a reason.
>>269560679
no he wasn't, as a third party, I can clearly tell you that you were the one getting blown out.
You are extremely ass blasted.
>>269560664
are you for real? I'm not even that guy but literally everyone here knows Valve's numbers are legit.
>>269560664
except the numbers on steam match up to other 3rd party sites, whereas Riot's are significantly larger. Don't forget the twitch botting.
>>269560770
>as a third party
ok kid, keep earning those free Riot Points™ for every post you make
I'm sure it's still more fun shitposting than actually playing league
Why is ASSFAGGOTS the worst genre?
out of all the money-grubbing shit that Riot has done, why haven't they made any figs of their waifus yet? It's like they don't want to jew harder with $80 1/6 scale figures or something.
>>269555083
>then procedes to charge ridiculous ammounts of cash for anything
So bro tier, brings a tear to my eye.
>>269560817
and this is proven how?
Go ahead, I'll wait.
>>269560843
Except third party sites mean absolutely nothing, they still get their numbers directly from valve, which can be fudged whichever way they want them to be.
You need to accept that more people in the world play a different game than your own.
>Don't forget the twitch botting.
Yes, lets not forget that time 40,000 people stopped watching a DOTA2 tournament all at once during the break, and then all came back at the same time when the break was over.
>>269561015
Because dotards shove their game down everyone's throats and cry when you don't play it.
>>269558370
What rank are you in? I refuse to believe you are higher than silver if you believe that all champs are viable in any role.
>>269561159
Both games are awful exercises in frustration. And in fact make you racist. After all, I went in to LoL not really giving two shits about Brazillians, and now I can't stand them.
>>269561159
>dotards shove their game down everyone's throats
thread was about riot, stay mad kiddo
>>269561159
>Yes, lets not forget that time 40,000 people stopped watching a DOTA2 tournament all at once during the break, and then all came back at the same time when the break was over.
source: your asshole
gee
how much do you make per post?
>>269559757
>no fun allowed!
>>269561348
Agreed. But at least it would be less annoying if the dotards didn't get so mad, you'd probably even be able to ignore it.
>>269561353
>thread was about riot
Yes. It was. And guess what happened?
You had to shove your game down everyone's throat, so you barged in and took the bait like a retard.
>how much do you make per post?
That's right, keep screaming "shill" as hard as you can, all I hear is a baby crying.
>>269561159
Valve actually posts their numbers, you can even look them up.
Riot literally tries hiding everything and never posts a source, just bullshit numbers that never match up to 3rd party sites that point out its 1/10th of what riot is claiming.
>>269561159
Because all the numbers are documented online. Valve even keeps a rolling graph of how many players are playing what hourly as well as keeping data on what each player is playing now that you can access. The numbers are verifiable, from the comfort of your home.
>>269561572
>took the bait like a retard.
L-LOOK GUIS IT WAS JUST AN EPIN B8 MEME
>all I hear is a baby crying.
you should stop shitposting then, I know you have to make money somehow so you should probably just fuck off to /vg/ or reddit where all they do is shill
>>269556280
>New champions cost 6300
Yeah, about that...
>>269561770
Offset by some IP reductions though. Not to shill or anything. I find the amount of IP you have to spend on runes alone preposterous and more than enough to make me never want to play again.
>>269561767
>riot's shilling in leddit and 4chan
Obvious as fuck, really sad how those faggots don't work in their game at all but they sure shill forums all day.
>Deletes entertaining and compelling character designs
>"Bro Tier"
Yeah, nah.
>>269561770
The post is dated 7/23/13
The sad part is, the grind the image implies gets worse every time they release anything worth IP.
>Makes champions and skins based on community feedback
because no other devs use community feedback
>Actively communicates to fanbase unlike most devs
>"lol we hate teemo too XD"
>implying most devs dont communicate
>Has the best esports scene and has made it mainstream
>no outside tournaments
>mainstream = good
riot shill pls
>>269561770
>...
>>269559392
>CC immunity
Yeah, that's still better than BKB.
IMMUNE TO ALL MAGIC
EXCEPT THE STUFF THAT YOU AREN'T IMMUNE TO
BETTER READ UP
It's so dumb, partly the reason I stopped playing that shit.
>>269561939
>BUT MUH ICE KING!
>Its not to please our Chinese overlords! Honest!
>>269558597
>the problem with LoL is that there are very clear outliers
>LoL
>not MobAs in general
Did you not watch TI4?
>>269562116
>immune to magic
>except people throwing rocks at your head
It's pretty easy to figure out in DotA, you can click on the enemies and read up their abilities unlike LoL, there's a symbol that points out if something goes through BKB if you are not sure, it's everything in game.
You know it's better to avoid a person if he call characters "champions" or "champs".
>>269561628
>>269561648
>Valve actually posts their numbers, you can even look them up.
>Because all the numbers are documented online.
Yes, the numbers they want you to see, not their actual numbers.
>>269561628
>Riot literally tries hiding everything and never posts a source
And this means their numbers are fake, how?
>>269561767
>L-LOOK GUIS IT WAS JUST AN EPIN B8 MEME
The OP was copied from, yesterday, this thread was made to bait you. OP is probably long gone by now.
>I know you have to make money somehow so you shou
Yes, feed me your anger, it's fun watching yo get so mad.
Face it, you can't prove valve's numbers are real, and you can't prove riot's numbers are fake. No amount of droning will prove otherwise.
>>269561939
>original trundle
>took on a curse to save his village, but no one likes him, basically says "screw them" and becomes his own master
I can't tell, did I just describe naruto or trundle?
>new trundle
>challenged his leader for control over his tribe, went out and found a powerful weapon to do so, made a powerful ally while doing so
>made his tribe more organized
So much better
>>269562265
>immune to magic
>except for magical grips
>magical roars
>etc
>Perpetuating the Dotaclone fad
>paving the way even further for p2w and cash shops
>forcing meta upon people
>hires ghostcrawler for balancing
>Bro tier
>>269562265
This. Being able to just click on your enemy and read how their skills works makes DotA 10 times better than LoL.
In LoL you have no way of knowing how the enemy hero works unless you buy it because you can't click on them to check the tooltips on their abilities, and luckily it just costs you $3-$12 per champion to unlock and see how they work yourself.
>>269561937
>implying they don't
threads like this are case in point
about a year back there was the same one copypasted daily that advertised LeL
>>269562413
>ghostcrawler
>>269562418
>in LoL you have no way of knowing how the enemy hero works unless you buy it
Click on their portrait.
>>269562350
Those first two replies contradict each other
>>269562413
There's no such thing as a "dota clone", it's all LoL clones.
>>269562350
>Yes, the numbers they want you to see, not their actual numbers.
No, that's Riot that claims they have 6 million players but 3rd party sites say they only had 300 thousand playing that whole month.
Valve numbers are verifiable at any minute, you can just go open steam and look up who is playing what game and got clear graphs that match up.
>>269562350
>not actual numbers
at least I had a source
>numbers are fake how?
We have more evidence of them lying than Valve. e.g. player contracts
>trolls
don't feed them
>becomes his own master
You've just fabricated half that story. You may actually be a shill.
>So much better
Subjective, crowd opinion seems to sway toward no.
>>269555083
They probably do all of this because they can't actually think of things themselves.
Only time Valve has done this is with the Faceless Void rework since he won the contest.
>>269561383
>my fun is worth 4 other players suffering!
>>269562350
valve has numbers that actually are realistic and are verifiiable by just observing other sites that match up pretty closely, while riot tries hiding all their shit all the time and other sites have only a small fraction of the EPIC HUGE SO MANY PLAYERS that riot always claims to have
if it's out in the open with nothing to hide then that'd be one thing but riot is definitely not showing anything.
Any other answer is inferior.
>>269562851
>not being competent on every character
>>269562587
>Riot literally bots on their own official twitch channel
Any company that is a bigger scumbag than Riot out there?
I mean I can't even think of one being so bold faced to try to scam everyone so hard, stealing content from the community and selling it for money, openly lying and using bots on official accounts, trying to ban players from playing video games that aren't LoL....
>>269562960
Yeah, and then you end up Kog'Maw jungle or Darius ADC or some dumb shit like that.
>>269562518
So you're seeing the flaw in your own argument now?
You're calling valve's digital numbers legit while riot's digital numbers are fake, the argument contradicts itself.
>>269562587
Please see the above reply, think long and hard on it. Try not to hurt yourself.
>>269562913
Yes, valve fabricates numbers closer to how unpopular their game is.
>verifiiable by just observing other sites that match up pretty closely
Sites that can only get their numbers from valve related places.
>while riot tries hiding all their shit all the time and other sites
again, how does this make riot's numbers false and valve's legit?
>>269562703
>at least I had a source
where? you never posted a source
>We have more evidence of them lying than Valve
So this means that valve automatically can not lie?
>don't feed them
too late, thread is already successful
>You've just fabricated half that story. You may actually be a shill.
Crying shill even more. alright, time to make you red in the face with anger.
You lose. Argument over.
>>269563094
maybe they should have such a constricting forced meta :^)
>>269562916
>>269563117
valve numbers are out in the open, riot literally hides theirs and 3rd party sites completely disagree with the bullshit they post.
Think for a second and try not to hurt yourself there.
>>269555083
>Is P2w
http://www.pcgamer.com/league-of-legends-has-made-almost-1-billion-in-microtransactions/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0
>League of Legends has made almost $1 billion in microtransactions
>>269563117
Steam releases all their data online. You could go check it if you really thought it invalid, rather than crying like a shill.
We have more evidence of Riot lying than Valve. You admitted that.
You actually fabricated Trundle's old story to flame it. Just made up. Then ad hom'd me. You lied, got caught, then called me names.
>>269563117
>riot employee spotted
>oh no they noticed I'm a shill because I'm lying too hard
>better claim victory and flee the thread
How classic, in leddit they do the same all the time.
>>269563117
>people like this exist
Are people really saying that League is less popular than Dota?
As a Dota player it's fucking obvious which one is the more popular game.
>>269563238
>>269563338
>valve numbers are out in the open, riot literally hides theirs
>Steam releases all their data online.
And how again does this prove valve is legit and riot is lying?
You need to understand, this is an argument built to fail, you cannot win with this. Valve's numbers are just as credible as Riot's, they're digital numbers in a computer that can be fudged whatever way then want them to be, there is absolutely no way to prove they're real.
>>269563338
>>269563417
>oh no they noticed I'm a shill because I'm lying too hard
>rather than crying like a shill.
Yes, more, more! Feed me your anger. Scream shill as loud as you can
>>269563436
I know, it must be painful to watch someone completely obliterate any argument your fellow drones throw at him.
>>269555083
>Reposts everyday
>>269562352
>Immune to MOST magic.
>Things you are not immune to include:
>Black holes,
>Time bubbles,
>Roars loud enough to shove people out of the way.
>The Pentagram of MOTHERFUCKING LUCIFER.
>And most physical things that would hurt you in real life.
>>269562537
Are you genuinely being serious?
>>269563589
>does nothing but scream I WIN I WIN
>claims others are angry
Wow this shill is pretty shit at arguments too, why did they even bother employing him when he's pretty slow on the head.
He should be delivering coffee or something instead.
>>269562350
>original trundle
>took on a curse to save his village, but no one likes him, basically says "screw them" and becomes his own master
>I can't tell, did I just describe naruto or trundle?
You tell me, I don't watch shit anime.
>new trundle
>challenged his leader for control over his tribe, went out and found a powerful weapon to do so, made a powerful ally while doing so
>made his tribe more organized
>So much better
He owes his position to spinning a huge lie and then getting lucky. You forgot the part where he subjected himself and his tribe to a megalomaniac, like a coward.
I don't know what the previous chief was doing, but it was probably wiser than that.
>>269563781
I'm loving how mad you are.
>>269563819
The previous chief was just having them wander around the frozen land, Trundle had them settle down and plan things out.
>>269563117
do you know what science is based off of, drone?
observable things
like valve's numbers are from multiple sources and are observable by anyone
riot and every third party that gets their shit from riot are hidden and stashed away, adding a shitload of doubt to their claims
I bet you're a fucking religious nut too
>oh well rio- err I mean god can't tell us something wrong it's right there in the bible, just because you can clearly see that it's not the case must mean it's something else wrong, not my infallible belief!
fucking laughable.
>>269556773
Dawngate actually has a chance to unlock a character for free after every match, though.
>>269556280
>ward skins they stole from Valve
>>269563117
Telling someone the argument is over because you won is childish as fuck
>>269563271
I just love how OP ignores the fact that this game is p2w
>>269561054
There's a bootleg as fuck 12 inch tall Sona figurine at my local cards/comics/collectibles/vidya store
But yeah I'm amazed Riot doesn't make their own, if they have enough money to fucking pay Imagine Dragons to make a song for them surely they can outsource some kind of figurine company
>>269563951
You need to understand, this is an argument built to fail, you cannot win with this. Valve's numbers are just as credible as Riot's, they're digital numbers in a computer that can be fudged whatever way then want them to be, there is absolutely no way to prove they're real.
Notice how no one else is replying anymore, they've all run away.
>>269564225
I do it when someone gets as pissed as he got, that way it doesn't drag on forever.
>>269564261
The models of LoL are arguably pretty bad, I don't see much of a point making figures of them.
>>269562987
They also ban you for using unconventional builds, and then remove or nerf them into unusability, even though novelty builds were one of the best ways to derive enjoyment from their shitty game and are in the long run healthy for the evolution of the metagame.
>>269564229
of course he did.
it's a troll thread, your dotard ass got baited.
>>269564413
Haha sure man , sure
>>269564351
Copy pasting the same response every time doesn't help your case at all, shill.
In fact it just further exposes you for what you are; a simple drone. Keep raking in that RP by replying, you'll get there some day.
>>269564401
They don't ban you for builds anon. They only ban you if you are obviously trolling like building ap items on a champion that has no ap damage.
>>269563951
trying to argue logic with a shill
He'll just claim you're lying and keep claiming victory because he's been caught on the lie.
He isn't even trying anymore, just a bad shill who lost the argument
>>269564351
No one got pissed. We've all told you that you can look up player profiles, message players, double check numbers, and count them up yourself.
You can't do that with Riot. Riot does NOT give out data sources for their top-concurrent and top-monthly numbers. You can't double-check them on lolking.
You're pretending that these facts don't exist and nobody is going to reply to a shill anymore.
>>269563915
Trundle had them start raiding villages for supplies, partly because Lissandra is trying to start shit.
>>269564442
>copy pasted every day
>not a troll thread
>>269564448
It does when it's right.
However, refusing to acknowledge the context of a post, does in fact ruin your chances to win an argument. Which is what you just did.
Because you can't refute my post.You lose
>>269564559
see >>269564351
Valve's numbers are just as real as Riot's and you, nor anyone else, can prove otherwise.
>>269564743
>riot just claims some bullshit numbers that dont match up with lolking
>meanwhile Valve numbers can be checked at any time, you can even see the profiles of every single one of the players playing at the time, and chat to them
Yep totally the same, oh wait
>>269555083
yeah this company is neat, as long as they're there, all attention seekers will be contained.
>>269558285
No escape/gap closer but I still don't give 2 shits cause she's the best adc of all time and the only champ I actually have a skin for
>>269555083
>servers constantly drop random players
>loss prevented still penalized lp
fuck riot
>>269564471
Remember the guy that got banned for playing AP Hecarim?
Uh, every other developer excluding the obvious AAA cancer?
>>269564861
see >>269564351
You are continuously repeating the same exact argument in hopes of a different outcome, this is the true meaning of insanity.
Since you're just going to keep repeating the same argument, you lose too.
Congratulations, you're all losers, not a single one of you could prove yourself right.
>>269556870
>killed World of Darkness
>bro
>>269564743
>hurr you lose :)
so you're so assblasted that multiple people proved you wrong many times itt that you're gonna keep stubbornly spouting that bullshit?
it's like riot really posts right here in front of us, claiming shit with no source and even after everyone sees the bullshit they just ignore it all in favor of pretending it never happened
top fucking lel
pic related, it's you
>these morons arguing about player count
Riot has been riding the whole "we have tons of people!" thing for years.
Valve just has total players per any given game listed, as well as websites for tracking these things with more depth.
Riot has incentive to claim they have tons of numbers, because since they've been doing this for years, people will falseflag them as a dying game / company if they stop saying they have tons of numbers and that's bad for business.
Valve has no incentive to smudge numbers.
Riot has been proven to falsely smudge their numbers, namely via Twitch streams.
Valve has never been proven to smudge their numbers.
Riot is a scummy company that's owned by the gooks.
Valve is a well-respected leader of of the industry.
But by all means, keep flinging shit. The one guy is just mad he's wrong.
>>269564915
This, I hope LoL never did because it's a top notch concentration camp for retards
>>269565020
Sorry not the same guy, you haven't debunked the argument yet it just seems completely logical how both numbers are different since one of them is open and can be checked personally, meanwhile the other is not just locked behind keys but doesn't match any of the other 3rd party sites at all.
Explain this
>>269564368
See that's what I'm getting at, they'd just outsource it so they actually look good. Like they do for all their cinematics, all their splash art, you get the idea.
Riot is fucking terrible at everything, but it doesn't even matter for them because they have so much fucking money that they can always just pay someone else to do it for them.
It's kind of upsetting, actually.
>>269565072
this is the exact rxn pic I was looking for.
thank you based anon.
>>269565072
Yes, get mad. Get as mad as you can, join your fellow dotards in crying because you got blown out.
>>269565132
>I'm not the same guy anymore because I need someone to help me out, but no one is coming to my rescue
Good job.
>you haven't debunked the argument yet it just seems completely
Even better, now you're ignoring entire posts.
Congratulations, you've ruined any chance of redemption.
>>269565106
>did
Dies
>>269565091
>Valve is a well-respected leader of of the industry.
And yet they let hundreds of shit games onto their service that's far worse than ANYTHING Riot could conjure up.
>>269565072
>Ad hominem attack
Way to win an argument, fuckwit.
>>269565253
>screaming samefag yet not answering any question
Oh I see its the screaming-kun riotdrone again
Disregard this underagefag he's completely delusional and his only means of holding an argument is screaming he won and that everyone else is mad everytime.
We banned him from /lolg/
So..... Anyone here like Heroes of the Storm?
>>269565415
I've already awnsered your questions, I've already ruined your arguments.
No amount of samefagging will save you.
And yes, I know it's you, because I find it very hard to believe that the original guy magically disappeared in the nick of time for you to swoop in and defend him.
>>269565419
still waiting to get in
>>269565253
the only one mad here is you, drone
>>269565091
that retard seriously thinks he's arguing with just one person but multiple anons are blowing him the fuck out, I wonder how much he makes per post.
Could it be 7, 8, 9 cents?
Maybe even...TENCENT?
A TRUE SHILL REALLY PUTS EFFORT INTO THE ACT.
>>269565381
You might have a point except that all he's been doing the entire time is ad hominem and "lol I win prove me wrong" even after being proved wrong 10 times over, akin to LALALA NOT LISTENING as a small child would
>>269565253
>Yes, get mad. Get as mad as you can, join your fellow dotards in crying because you got blown out.
I'm >>269565091.
What does this have to do with dota?
What incentive do dota players have to claim "my game has more people!!"?
It's fact that the bigger the community, the stupider the people are. Why would they want that distinction?
Not to mention, League is an objectively more casual and idiot-friendly game. It does a semi-ok job at retaining those people, and provides competition to Dota 2, which is always a good thing.
So basically, the whole argument is retarded in the first place.
If the game has 500,000 people or 5,000,000 people will not make any difference to the individual.
You will never encounter even 5,000 of those people.
>>269565346
That's like blaming Barnes and Noble for having trashy, horrible books on their shelves. Steam is just a platform to sell games and socially interact with people through these games. Hell, Valve has very little to do with the games other than slapping them in the store for a cut of the profit.
>>269565524
>I know its you
point the posts so we both can reply with pictures showing there's only one (you) in them
>>269556727
the prices of the skins are based on what extras they add to the character. There were some skins that had a lot of new voices, animations and skill effects and being sold on the same price as the ones who simply had a new model, so it was logical to raise their price, and lower the ones that had only new character model/texture
Nice try dotards.
>>269565575
>>269565603
Yes, fuel my rampage through your asshole, your tears are delicous.
>>269565587
see >>269564351
You need to understand, this is an argument built to fail, you cannot win with this. Valve's numbers are just as credible as Riot's, they're digital numbers in a computer that can be fudged whatever way then want them to be, there is absolutely no way to prove they're real.
Call me "mad" some more so you can start raging with the other dotards.
>>269565524
>still waiting to get in
Ah,well good luck I am too, I was hoping to hear some opinions of it. Looking forward to playing either Uther or Tyrael
>>269565765
I'll just hide your posts, then.
defend this lolbabbies
>People still replying to the obvious b8master
How about we stop and instead post our favorite hero/champion.
Pic related.
>>269565808
Worst game I've played. Put more hours into LoL than most here too. Humor was juvenile and game is mostly devoid of skill.
If Blizz had released it when they announced it, it would have been great, even as a carbon copy of LoL. Now, they dumbed it down to try and compete as a unique product and it's uniquely awful.
>mfw riot is so bad their devs literally off themselves
>>269565863
Okay. Have fun being mad, the "bait" reaction image does nothing
>>269565931
Loving the anger, feed me more.
I still have yet to be proven wrong.
>>269565524
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU WON!
:) :) :)
>>269565931
Slark all day.
>>269565748
>time wasted
Is that good or bad?
>>269565975
Sorry,
>>269565984
>>269566104
More, feed me more.
>>269566104
>mfw chen buff
>>269566036
there's no joke
>>269559757
The difference Is that you don't have to rely on 4 other people to approve of your choice
If you pick deejay in ultra sf4, it'll be fine, because the other guy will just body you and move on.
If you were to pick the Deejay of LoL, the four other players would get pissed at you, call you a troll, and report you
>>269566178
Yeah some are pretty bad, don't ask why i saved them.
>>269566171
>mfw i haven't played since TI4
Has the meta changed since the bounty runes?
>>269556512
>>269558843
Gaben here, what's wrong with valve?
>>269566273
Shit went a bit more fast paced, more ganks, more roaming, more swaps.
Games that end up dragging forever are less common, and they pretty much buffed everyone, some insane aghs upgrades that make the game more interesting.
Game improved from that TI4 deathball meta I'd say.
>>269565419
It's okay, no depths though
