Why do people love this shit so much?
Aren't you buying the same fucking game every year or two? It's just basic barebones jrpg gameplay. They don't every do anything new, are super linear and they still get great reviews every time and people lose their shit over them. And it's not even like there's a decent story involved.
How can a series get away with rehashing so fucking hard? How can a series fucking prosper on it?
I'm sick of this shit getting a free pass from reviewers and gamers every fucking time because it's pokemon.
What exactly makes Pokemon more of a rehash than every other sequel out there?
Forgot to add Pokémon Amie in Gen 6
>>268988264
gen III had tall grass for the first time
>>268988125
pokemon was good when there wasn't any better.
people who still play it don't know any better
>>268988253
lol
>>268988459
lol
>>268988253
Just because there are a ton of them and they're all the same. They haven't really changed in the 10+ years they've been coming out.
>>268988264
with all of that the basic playthrough is still the same.
>Select fight
>use your strongest move
>repeat
>>268988125
Because they're retarded autists and support japanese jews.
>>268988661
>with all of that the basic playthrough is still the same.
Sounds like almost every sequel ever. Why aren't they called rehashes?
>>268988661
Again, what makes Pokemon more of a rehash?
You can say the same thing about other games.
Every FPS is just you pointing the gun at enemies and clicking.
Every RTS is just you selecting units and having them build something or fight.
Every platformer is just jumping to avoid obstacles.
>>268988845
>>268988958
Because only nintendo franchises can be considered rehashes, fucking nintendrones. Nintendo are the most unoriginal of the 3 companies.
>>268989064
s-sorry
Oh, this old argument. If you don't play the games, don't bitch about them. Simple enough, right?
>>268989064
Nice satire.
>Games have to do something new to be worth playing.
I've been playing Doom wads for 20 years and no one is going to stop me.
>>268989179
No one wants to stop you from playing a boring ass 2d game.
greatest franchise ever
prove me wrong faggots
>>268989309
Don't encourage shitposters.
i like pokemon but gen 2 can fuck off, since it's the worst gen
>>268988661
How can you post something so retarded and not understand why its stupid?
If you break down any fucking game to its "basics" its the fucking same even in the sequels. Therefore every game ever is a rehash.
>>268989309
My taste is different than yours
mega evolutions ruined everything
>>268989402
Don't respond to mindless newfags who don't even play the game they're bitching about.
>>268989383
wow, hold the fuck on
nobody should be allowed to have an opinion this wrong
>>268988958
>Every FPS is just you pointing the gun at enemies and clicking.
different styles of fps (stealth, action, sci-fi, historical) call for different styles of gameplay and offer much more variety than:
>Fight
>Ability
>Repeat
>Every RTS is just you selecting units and having them build something or fight.
Nope there's all kinds like 4x / and Grand Strategy games that are definitely all a lot more different than pokemon games are from eachother
>Every platformer is just jumping to avoid obstacles.
Not really. DKC and Prince of Persia are both platformers and are entirely different
>Aren't you buying the same fucking game every year or two? It's just basic barebones jrpg gameplay
most JRPGS have less than a dozen playable party members
Pokemon has several hundred
>>268988125
Calm down.
>>268989496
>mega evolutions ruined everything
>for me
FTFY
>>268989568
Pokemon has at least one new inovation in its battle system every generation.
>>268989402
I guess it's something only people who are already into pokemon can get into.
I don't give a shit about new pokemon and new abilities if I can just use a handful of abilities and get through the whole game with them.
>>268988264
Gen 2 had the phys/spec type split.
>>268989568
Nice to see you comparing different franchises but comparing only the mainline Pokémon games with each other
>>268988125
That's why Gen 1 and 2 are the only good ones, it's not even nostalgia. The fun ends at Gen 2.
>>268988264
Gen II introduced weather conditions. Gen III is when they started occurring on the overworld,
>>268989861
That's because comparing Pokemon Snap to Pokemon Trozei would torpedo his argument.
>>268989984
>it's not even nostalgia.
Sure it isn't
>>268989861
The person I was replying to was comparing pokemon games to entire genres.
Not my fault he decided to do that
>>268989813
No, that was Gen IV. In Gen 3 Hyper Beam was still considered Physical.
>>268988264
Gen 3 also introduced the modern EV/IV system and a PC system with a graphical interface.
>>268989984
>The fun ends at the worst gen
Fitting.
>>268989984
>That's why Gen 1 and 2 are the only good ones, it's not even nostalgia. The fun ends at Gen 2.
>For me
FTFY
>>268989813
No it didn't. It just split Special into Special Attack and Special Defense.
>>268990158
Nevermind, I reread your post and see what you mean.
>>268989984
More like you entered middle school.
this is pretty much "i am not into this kind of game so i will hate it because it is successful and i don't like how people have different taste with me" thread
op will fit nicely on /v/
>>268990371
This.
>>268988125
because it's fun
>>268990517
'fun'? /v/ forgot the meaning of that word.
>>268988125
It just gives me nostalgia when I play brings me back to the days where I was happier and didn't have responsibility.
>>268988264
>New pokemon/moves/abilities
Why would you even put that if the only difference is the graphics?
Let's be honest, most of those changes in any box are small changes. And most of those changes don't even change the core gameplay.
>>268990610
just because you read tons of bullshit in one week doesn't mean fun has changed
>>268988125
>I'm sick of this shit getting a free pass from reviewers and gamers every fucking time because it's pokemon.
>Reviewers complain about Pokemon X/Y because "Wow its fucking pokemon again" and then give 10/10 to the latest CoD/Battlefield/cinematic horseshit that has come out in the last 7 years.
I'm sick of fags like you.
>>268990669
this is what im trying to say
>>268990669
>Why would you even put that if the only difference is the graphics?
What?
>Let's be honest, most of those changes in any box are small changes.
No
>And most of those changes don't even change the core gameplay.
Yes. Like almost every sequel. I really don't fucking understand this "core gameplay" argument that people use.
>>268990669
>Don't bother putting in new and interesting things
Is what I got from this post.
>>268990798
Hey man I don't like CoD/Battlefield type stuff either, but I don't like pokemon either.
I've moved on to big boy jrpgs
>>268990669
>most of those changes don't even change the core gameplay.
Arguably, the gens people shit on the most tend to have the bigger changes to the core gameplay. Gen 3 had Abilities and the EV/IV system, 4 had the type split which made many previously unusable pokemon useful, with new moves to benefit them, 6 had a new type to balance out a dragon dominated metagame, along with mega pokemon and a simpler way to track EVs and train a pokemon's stats.
Pokemon absolutely changes the way the game is played almost every generation. I'm not even a tourneyfag, but even a casual like me knows what changes.
>>268991098
>big boy jrpgs
Such as?
>>268990884
>What?
Don't act stupid, the moves for each Pokemon do basically the same exact thing for every other game in the series. One grass attack that does 3 small hits. A charge up attack. Burrow or fly then attack. A flame attack that adds a fire effect. There may be a decent amount of them but it's really the truth that it's not any different from the rest of the series.
>No
Yes.
>>268991098
>big boy jrpgs
Oxymoron of the century, right here.
>>268991441
Nice bait. No one reply.
>>268991441
>Don't act stupid, the moves for each Pokemon do basically the same exact thing for every other game in the series. One grass attack that does 3 small hits. A charge up attack. Burrow or fly then attack. A flame attack that adds a fire effect. There may be a decent amount of them but it's really the truth that it's not any different from the rest of the series.
No. That's completely wrong and you are literally judging some moves based on their animations.
>Yes.
Another thing completely wrong.If you actually played it you would see how much online is different on each gen.
>>268988428
Gen II did in the park area after goldenrod, that's where yo get sunkern
>>268991441
>>268991409
Pokemon's changes to the series is not a change to how you play the game. There can be 1000 new pokemon, 1000 "new" moves and abilities, but overall there's like 10 different actual variations. Each game it's collecting the new versions of an old members so they can use the same moves and abilities reskinned. I simply cannot fathom how autistic you have to be to enjoy what basically is the same game for over 15 years.
>>268991592
Why? Because you can't prove me wrong?
>>268991839
>Why? Because you can't prove me wrong?
Because you obviously haven't played the games that's why.
>>268990884
>Yes. Like almost every sequel. I really don't fucking understand this "core gameplay" argument that people use.
I see what your saying. Games in a franchise usually keep the same core gameplay. Like God of War 1-3, GTA 3-5, Starcraft and Diablo, etc...
You're totally right.
I just think people judge pokemon on it is because while God of War / Diablo games have the same core gameplay, there's only a couple of those games.
With Pokemon there are tons of games, and they have stuck to a pretty same-y formula since the start (a long time ago).
A franchise with 1-4 games with similar gameplay aren't going to catch as much shit about rehashing as a franchise with 10+ games with similar gameplay.
Still tho, nothing wrong with Pokemon games. They're always well made.
>>268991441
>water move that leaves a burn
>ice move that leaves a burn
>moves that change abilities
>moves that swap held items
>moves that go first/go last
>moves that allow you to retreat from battle and send in a different pokemon
>>268991963
Don't expect him to know any of that, he's a baiter who hasn't even played the games.
>>268991839
I don't know, Gyarados was unusable until 4th gen. Same with Sneasel, Feraligatr and a host of others.
>>268991938
Pokémon has only 7 (mainline) games. These 12172479124721 games are just different versions and remakes. You know what other franchise has 7 games? God Of War (and it's not as old as Pokémon).
Spin-offs exist for that. Pokémon Snap,Mistery Dungeon and Pokkén will of course have a different gameplay
Taste time?>inb4 6 posts of >revolution >good
>>268992063
As an aside, when are we getting a fire move that leaves you poisoned or paralysed?
>>268991605
>No. That's completely wrong and you are literally judging some moves based on their animations.
How is that completely wrong? Can you possible show me the variations in attacks that aren't useless ranges like damage? Newer revision of old numbers? 2 medium hits or 4 equal damage small hits?
>>268991963
>water move that leaves a burn
>ice move that leaves a burn
Oh boy, finally a different status for one particular move! That's an alright addition, even if again it's just more numbers. I guess I'm just not a JRPG fan. Animation or models cannot hold me from playing the same game and using the same attacks over and over again.
Anyone else who dislikes the main series but loves the spinoffs?
>>268992207
pokemon yellow
pokemon red
pokemon green
pokemon gold
pokemon silver
pokemon leaf green
pokemon fire red
pokemon sapphire
pokemon ruby
pokemon emerald
pokemon diamond
pokemon pearl
pokemon platinum
pokemon heartgold
pokemon soulsilver
pokemon white
pokemon black
pokemon white 2
pokemon black 2
pokemon x
pokemon y
that's more than 7
>>268992292
What, you mean something that acts like mercury?
>>268992435
Why are you here again?
>>268992292
Is there a move that covers sulfur?
Because I think that might work for a few pokemon especially Camerupt.
>>268992435
>How is that completely wrong? Can you possible show me the variations in attacks that aren't useless ranges like damage? Newer revision of old numbers? 2 medium hits or 4 equal damage small hits?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_moves
>>268992286
>Platinum
>That goodExcellent taste.
>>268992587
Red/Yellow/Green
Gold/Silver/Crystal
Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald
Pearl/Diamond/Platinum
White/Black
White2Black2
X/Y
>>268992741
He isn't gonna read any of that. Shouldnt've even bothered linking.
>>268992587
Red\Blue or Green\Yellow
Gold\Silver\Crystal
Ruby\Sapphire\Emerald
Diamond\Pearl\Platinum
Black\White
Black 2\White 2
X\Y
Why do you think every one of them have "version" after their name? (except X and Y)
>>268992776
I haven't been pokefagging in a long while, is it worth it to just skip diamond and pearl and just go straight to platinum?
>>268992286
>>revolution
>good
HERE'S WHAT I'D WANT:inb4 autism
>a pokemon game without the fire-water-grass starter trope
>a NEW pokemon game that only uses Gen1 + Gen2 pokemon (or maybe the original 151 - I'd be fine with that)
>>268992671
>>268992720
Just a fire move that is useful outside of killing steel or bug or grass types. Game Freak is kind of lazy when it comes to good fire types. The last good one was Volcarona.
>>268992587
I AM A FUCKING RETARD PLEASE POINT IT OUT FOR ME I BEG YOU PLEASEEEE
>>268992806
If they're sold as separate games and each cost the price of a new game, you don't get to lump them together like that.
Pokemon red is a different game than yellow or green, it's packaged and sold separately and is a full price game.
It's not like they're expansion packs for one game.
>>268992971
Yes, it pretty much fixed the complaints people had with Diamond and Pearl. There's really no reason to go back to them when you got Platinum
>>268992971
Yes. Whereas many consider Diamond and Pearl the weakest, Platinum is easily among the best of the best.
>>268993010
I'm so tempted to point out the amount of autism and nostalgia in this post
This is bait right
>>268992971
That's what most do.
>>268992971
Oh god yes, Diamond & Pearl have awful issues with waiting between text boxes during battles and attack animations.
>>268992971
As an example, battles in D/P run slower than they do in Play because there's a delay after you use a move, because GF sucks at programming, as well as having a fire type E4 member that uses 2 fire types, one of which is the fire starter.
They got their shit together with Plat and its vastly superior to both.
>>268993120
They are different versions and\or remakes of the same games.
>>268992671
Why are you so defensive in enjoying a creatively and mechanically rehashed series? You play the game for the "catch-em-all" aspect and that's okay, but it doesn't mean the series isn't truly one of the more greedier series in the industry.
>>268992741
That isn't an argument dumbass, anyways the majority of those attacks are very samey. The modifiers are cost, damage, accuracy, and possible effects. Now you see why I don't like Pokemon? From gen 1 you had these attacks and they accomplished basically the same thing the ones now do. There are a few that deviated from the format, but they've definitely already expended all of their ideas for new moves.
>>268993214maybe
>>268993010
>a NEW pokemon game that only uses Gen1 + Gen2 pokemon (or maybe the original 151 - I'd be fine with that)
>>268993010
>a NEW pokemon game that only uses Gen1 + Gen2 pokemon (or maybe the original 151 - I'd be fine with that)
>>268993331
>rehash
I should've ignored your stupid ass from the beginning. This is my last reply.
>>268993010
Yeah because there isn't enough fucking nostalgia pandering already. Charizard and Mewtwo get 2 megas each and Gen 5 gets an Audino mega.
Nostalgia pandering needs to stop.
>>268992435
You sound like a shitter that only slots attack moves and diaregards status moves, also forgot to mention the additon of spatk atk def spdef, and abilities
>>268993214
it's not - i seriously would want this
>>268993331
Okay, you are retarded.
Not even gonna reply anymore
>>268993324
and they're catagorized as seperate games
Red and Blue are two games, not one game.
I don't chose to release them this way or package and categorize them as separate games so don't get mad at me.
Two games may be a part of the same gen, but if they are packaged seperately, have different content, names and both are full price games, then they are two seperate games regardless of how similar the gameplay / content is.
>>268993618
>Gen 5
>Nostalgia
>>268993010
>>268993010
>a NEW pokemon game that only uses Gen1 + Gen2 pokemon (or maybe the original 151 - I'd be fine with that)
>>268993716
>Red and Blue are two games, not one game.
Two different versions of the same game. Can't you see the big "VERSION" written on the box?
>I don't chose to release them this way or package and categorize them as separate games so don't get mad at me.
You choose to ignore everything I say
Two games may be a part of the same gen, but if they are packaged seperately, have different content, names and both are full price games, then they are two seperate games regardless of how similar the gameplay / content is.
No that means both of them are different versions of the same game
>>268993646
>MFW I used to stack attack moves but when 3rd gen hit I got wise and boosted the fuck out of my mons
>Later, clear all of 5th gen with a Serperior holding a Big Root and knowing Leech Seed and Giga Drain
>>268993730
I was contrasting the two. I probably should have been clearer when complaining about Gen 5's only mega.
Physical and special were assigned to types, as opposed to moves from Gen 1 to 3; Diamond/Pearl had the P/S split. Gen 1 had a Special stat that worked very strangely: the higher it was, the stronger the attack was and the weaker you were to special attacks. It was split into two different stats - Special Attack and Special Defense - in Ruby/Sapphire.
>>268988125
Because they're good.
And the postgame/multiplayer is where the game shines. The single player is essentially a bonus.
>>268993562
>>268993342
>>268993618
I'm not talking about this digimon "mega"-shit - I just think it would be cool if there was a new game set with a limited number of pokemon. There are just too many now - I much preferred it when the number of pokemon was containedand comfy.
>>268993583
Right, because you know you're wrong, otherwise you would argue against me.
Playing Pokemon is just pressing new moves that do the same thing as the previous game. You may like it because you can autistically catch new pokemon, but something like that doesn't appeal to anyone who actually likes gameplay variation.
>>268993716
Stats? What aspect of the gameplay do they change? They're modifiers to Pokemon, already established that changes to new sets of pokemon doesn't make the actual gameplay any different.
I'm beginning to slowly realize who actually likes Pokemon games. It was so obvious. People on /v/ bitch at weebs for playing autistic JRPG number simulations, when Pokefags are the same people fawning over fantasy creatures.
>>268993669
Got it, Pokefags just go into pure denial when actually provoked, good to know.
>>268994154
Oh, I gotcha. The starters are probably gonna get Megas soon though.
>>268994261
>It was split into two different stats - Special Attack and Special Defense - in Ruby/Sapphire.
It was Gold and Silver, actually.
>>268994407
Report, hide, etc...
>>268988264
Gen II had day/night cycle as well with specific pokemon for each time of the day.
>>268994389
Why contain it?
>>268994389
You're an idiot. Pandering to nostalgia will be the one thing that dooms the series.
>>268988661
>sequel
>gameplay is the same
WHO'DA THUNKIT?
>>268994601
Report? This thread from the beginning was made to hate on Pokemon you idiot. Still, that full denial though. What's so interesting in these fantasy creatures? Is it just nostalgia talking?
>>268994805
Why so desperate to get an argument out of me? Go away you fucking pest.
>>268994389
Gen 5 forced you into using the Gen 5 Pokemon up until you beat the game.
>>268988125
>Pure Silver
>Solid Gold
>>268994305
This nigga gets it.
I dream of a day where a social strategy game like Pokémon will be judged not onthe similarities of their plot progression; but on the content of their charm, and the games' competitive mechanics and potential.
>>268994505I actually couldn't quite remember that one detail, so you very well may be right.
>>268994407
>I'm beginning to slowly realize who actually likes Pokemon games. It was so obvious. People on /v/ bitch at weebs for playing autistic JRPG number simulations, when Pokefags are the same people fawning over fantasy creatures.
Check your fedora at the door, you pathetic oxygen theif.
>>268988264
also Gen II had all the original gen I area in it with more badges to collect.
>>268994389
Colosseum and Gale of Darkness sound right up your alley.
>>268995147
Do not respond to him.
>>268994701
>>268994723
It's not pandering to nostalgia. Do they really need to add a shitload of half-assed-designed pokemon when they create a new game? I think you might be missing what I'm saying - there are a ton of new gameplay elements that could be explored, while retaining Gen1+Gen2 (or maybe just Gen1) pokemon. Do people here really think that Gen3+ had better designs than the originals?
>>268995141
I know I'm right because I committed the entire Crystal Prima guide to memory when I was 11.
>>268988125
You should know by now that Nintoddlers eat the same old shit up fifteen times a year.
>>268995243
boy I sure am glad we live on a planet where there's only 151 types of animals....oh wait.
>>268988125
because soul silver and heart gold were fucking 10/10 games?
>>268995243
That depends on each individual pokemon, since different artists worked on different mons in all gens.
>>268995243
>Do people here really think that Gen3+ had better designs than the originals?
Yes
Much better designs at that, too
>>268993716
>Red and Blue are two games, not one game.
No, they're two variants of the same game - and are explicitly marked as such. They are intentionally released on the same day, and carries the same price.
Person A buying Red, and Person B buying blue, and then trading between each other the Pokemon that differs was one of its key gameplay mechanics.
Getting both variants yourself is not intended - though obviously collectors might.
>>268994759
Go play DMC1 and then DMC3. New weapons, combos, and styles means refreshing gameplay. Abe's Oddysee to Exoddus, and keep in mind Exoddus was an expansion that took 6 months to make. Super Mario 64 -> Sunshine -> Galaxy (2). Pokemon gets the hate because while those series were changing, Pokemon stays the same for pretty much 10+ years and still gets mad sales.
>>268994890
Enjoyment? /v/ experiment? I want to see how mad Pokemon defenders get when I insult their precious autism simulator. It seems a lot, especially when you bring in proper arguments on why the games aren't different just because they have new versions of old moves. Oh and I forgot to say this earlier, but who the fuck cares about stats if they're not minmaxing for multiplayer? You level up, the pokemon gets better stats. That's it. No changes to gameplay.
>>268995243
>Do people here really think that Gen3+ had better designs than the originals?Yes.
>>268988125
nintendo is exempt from those kinds of criticisms
>>268995312
Cool.
>>268995487
>Enjoyment? /v/ experiment?
So shitposting? I gotcha buddy. everyone already combated your arguments with the evidence you wanted, yet you still want more? Fuck off, get a life.
>>268995243
Yes the other 468~ Pokemon would have better designs than the first 251.
>>268995243
>Do people here really think that Gen3+ had better designs than the originals?
I'd say it probably went down in quality a little, but they shouldn't just give up trying to make new ones
>>268995147
Fedora is what autistic Pokefags wear. Seriously 90% of the Pokemon fanbase is either sperg or child.
>>268995530
>>268995394
Well, to each his own, I suppose.
>>268995348
Silly me - I didn't realize that pokemon was suppose to represent the fullest extent of biodiversity on Earth
>>268995243
What does a pokemon like Sunflora have over a pokemon like Liligant? What does Ariados have over Galvantula?
I loved Gen2 when it came out, but looking back the games are dated and Johto is barebones.
>>268995875
it will eventually if people like you don't get in it's way.
>>268995875
>Silly me - I didn't realize that pokemon was suppose to represent the fullest extent of biodiversity on Earth
It's actually about that, the main appeal of Pokemon is its ever expanding universe that makes the world and diversity huger and huger within each generation
>>268988125
>I'm sick of this shit getting a free pass from reviewers and gamers every fucking time because it's pokemon.
To be fair, HeartGold was the first Pokemon game I actually enjoyed since Sapphire. I hated DP, BW, and XY.
My hopes are high for the 3rd gen remakes if HeartGold is anything to go by. The Pokemon Walker was such a cool feature, so I hope they do something similar with the 3DS hardware.
By the way, this discussion should be in /vp/...
>>268996062
>video games don't belong on /v/Accurate
>>268995748
>So shitposting?
Check the OP you illiterate retard, I'm not invading /vp/ I'm stating my opinions in agreeance with OP, and you're getting mad over it. Especially when you reject my arguments with no reason why and then claim you brought up any evidence.
Yes, I need to get a life though. But you too, otherwise you wouldn't still be here in this hate thread (which it was from the beginning).
same reason the same players constantly buy every new wow expansion. people usually just stick to what they like.
>>268995243
Yes.
Only gen IV designs sucked
>>268991839
>People like gameplay
>add on top of it
>expecting them to just throw out what they have that works
The core game play is going out into the wild and grabbing random animals to bash into other people's random animals
if you want "unique" gameplay, go pick up one of the side games
Also
>collecting new versions of old members
Nigga do you realize that some pokemon back then do not equate to modern pokemon in abilities nor even typing (Charazard compared to boo boo keys for example)
Also I'm not the fag you responded to if you are wondering
>>268995863
I could replace the word "Pokemon" with "4chan" and would still be very correct.
>>268996393
He'll just find some way to refute you.
>>268996025
>>268995968
>>268995898
Okay - you guys got me. Perhaps I am a nostaliafag who hasn't given the new games much of a chance. What is the newest pokemon game that I can emulate, that you would recommend for someone who has only played Gen1+Gen2?
>>268993010
How about a game mode that randomly selects you a pokemon, drops you off in the middle of the world and if a pokemon faints you lose it the objective is toSurvive
>>268996552
Pokemon Black/White 2.
>>268995487
>Go play Pokémon Red and then Pokémon Sapphire. New pokémons, moves, and abilities means refreshing gameplay.
>DMC gameplay is just the same attacks but with slightly altered properties, it's just the same shit over and over again
>>268996552
Emerald
BW
BW2
Platinum
Go buy XY if you want to.
>>268996552
I would tell you to go straight to X and Y but since that isn't an option, play Black and White 2 on a DS emulator
Perhaps you'll love it, perhaps you'll get a newborn hatred for the series, who knows
>>268996552
Pokemon Black/White 2 are good games. Good selection of Pokemon at the start of the game.
>>268996552
Fire Red\Leaf Green
Emerald
Heart Gold\Soul Silver
Platinum
>>268996393
Pokemon rehashes it's gameplay much more than other series, though. That's my main point. And I don't like the "pokemon" aspect enough to cancel that.
>Nigga do you realize that some pokemon back then do not equate to modern pokemon in abilities nor even typing (Charazard compared to boo boo keys for example)
I'm going to refer to new Pokemon from what they are down to the core, new members trying to hold a space with more or less the same moves and abilities I used last game.
>>268996507
Yes, and?
>>268996661
That would be sick, actually
ITT: Pokemon is a rehash because the fundamental game mechanics are the same, as is the case in virtually every game series ever made
>>268996964
It's just one guy saying this. OP already left.
>>268996552
You can't emulate 3DS games, but anything up to Black2/White2 should be fair game. Since you only played Gens 1 and 2, I'd suggest trying out Black and White, since a lot of the Pokemon have counterparts to those in Gen 1.
If you're in doubt, ask /vp/, I'm sure they'd point you in the right direction.
>>268996661
Not my cup of tea.
>>268996752
Hah, DMC has more variation than Pokemon's types purely in the styles. Different combos with different weapons just add to it.
>>268997040
It's just one guy saying this and no one else even bother to arguing. Instead, they just reject it like it will go away in a Pokemon hate thread. Which reminds me, why are you guys here?
>>268996661
you can get a randomizer that randomizes starters, catchable pokemon per route and trainer/gym battles in rom versions of pokemon. It's fun for a laugh/nuzlocke run.
>>268996917
>I'm going to refer to new Pokemon from what they are down to the core, new members trying to hold a space with more or less the same moves and abilities I used last game.
How retarded are you?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Klefki_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Charizard_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
>>268997136
>716 pokemon
>30 odd moves leaned by almost each one
>several hundred different moves
Mathematically the move combinations are effectively limitless.
The only way to save the Pokemon franchise at this point is to make an MMO.
>But the games are still selling well!
Sales are declining. Modern kids just aren't interested in Pokemon. Change is necessary to keep it alive in the long-term.
>>268997136
>Hah, Pokémon has more variation than DMC's types purely in the stats. Different types with different moves just add to it.
>>268997398
Don't forget Items,Natures,Abilities,and Megas.
>>268997254
I guess we're discussing pokemon now.
Which pokemon would youtrainin real life?
>>268997254
>why are you guys here
It's just a pokemon thread with some easy to ignore XD rehash posts
>>268997483
Why the fuck do faggots on /v/ think a Pokemon MMO would be a good idea?
Do they want the franchise to die?
>>268991721
You could get Sunkurn in the normal grass in that area also.
>>268997503
Yes but when the options reach the quintillions you don't really need to argue the point anymore.
>>268997375
>>268997398
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>>268997503
Doesn't it get tiring arguing with someone this difficult.
>>268997624
I agree - MMOs are such a flash-in-the-pan concept - focusing entirely on a pokemon MMO will probably not bode well for the franchise.
>>268997624
I can just imagine it.
>LF2M Silph Co., must have BST 700 or higher pokemons and achievement
>>268997624
>faggots on /v/
Everyone thinks it's a good idea. People have been asking for one for years. The only ones who are against it are the hardcore Poke-fans who like the series as it is, and they're a shrinking demographic.
>>268997769
It's not every day I can discuss pokemon on /v/ with other anons that look forward to the future of the series rather than live in the past.
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>>268997839
There would be some Pay2Win shit in it.Not to mention we can already battle online.
>>268997892
>Everyone
Don't speak for me, and there's already a Pokemon MMO, but it looks boring as fuck.
Pokemon has always been unique, there aren't really any other multiplayer turn-based RPGs.
>>268997892
>Everyone thinks it's a good idea.
You're clearly wrong on this.
>People have been asking for one for years.
You mean dumb people that don't know how cancerous a MMO game could be for Pokemon?
>The only ones who are against it are the hardcore Poke-fans who like the series as it is, and they're a shrinking demographic.
Anyone with common sense knows this is a terrible idea.
>>268997982
>It's not every day I can discuss pokemon on /v/
Yeah, I guess I can agree with you on that.
>>268998206
>there aren't really any other multiplayer turn-based RPGs.
>What is the Tales series
>>268996552
play any game with the universal pokemon randomizer:
http://pokehacks.dabomstew.com/randomizer/
trust me, it will make the experience much better. Be sure to leave it in catch em all mode though, and keep legendaries one time only but swap them with each other.
>>268997375
>>268997398
Slight tweaks to how much damage is not a gameplay changer. Before you think anything with pokemon or move in it, just remember the difference is numbers. There are barely any other useful moves. In DMC different styles have different playstyles, you do different things, press different buttons in context of your abilities. But Pokemon is turn-based, which by the way has series that avoid getting stale (and Pokemon is not one of them), the only logical thought it leaves is that you're in it for the Pokemon. I'm not a furry so I guess I'll never know the appeal.
>>268998129
>Don't speak for me
I'm not. You fall under the "hardcore Poke-fan" camp.
>and there's already a Pokemon MMO, but it looks boring as fuck.
Shitty fan games don't count.
Just imagine being able to battle with /v/irgins across the world, or rising through global ranks to become an actual Pokemon master. Why does that sound like a bad game to you?
>>268998380
>turn-based
>>268998380
>Tales
>Turn based
>>268998487
>Just imagine being able to battle with /v/irgins across the world, or rising through global ranks to become an actual Pokemon master. Why does that sound like a bad game to you?
You can do this already on XY with the Online Battle system.
If this is the only reason you can think of for a MMO, then it's a bad one.
>>268998487
That already exist in X&Y
>>268998487
>Why does that sound like a bad game to you?
Well, going by the intense amount of trolling that this thread has, it sounds like a right laugh. I'm sure getting kicked out of your raiding gym because you prefer to use Gen 5 mons will be fun and exciting.
>>268998429
>All these assumption
>All this DMC dick sucking
>>268998487
Not even a hardcore fan. You said 'everyone' so I assumed you meant 'everyone' which included me obviously. Battling with /v/ doesn't sound too fun either.
>>268998739
>intense amount of trolling that this thread has
It's actually just one guy.
>>268998669
>>268998680
Basic multiplayer isn't all there is to an MMO. I assume you can't play with complete strangers in the new games, or interact as a community.
I'm sure a Pokémon MMO could be made without compromising the core gameplay. There's no need to be so hostile to the idea, for whatever reason.
>>268999280
>I assume you can't play with complete strangers in the new games, or interact as a community.
Yeah you can haven't you played XY?
>>268999280
>I assume you can't play with complete strangers in the new games, or interact as a community.
>I haven't played XY
>>268999446
No. I grew out of the games in middle school. Once Pokemon itself grows up, I might be willing to give it a second chance.
>>268999639
And you left middle school last year?
Explain further.
>>268999639
>Once this children's game grows up, I might be willing to give it a second chance.
Kay.
>>268998429
But all of the abilities do damage, so therefore its all the same
DMC confirmed for rehashthis is your logic
>>268990365
Does this mean you are still in high school?
>>268998392
I've actually played this - it's pretty sweet
>>268999280
You can play against complete strangers and even trade with them
>>268999792
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>>269000163
You know what? Never mind. It sounds like Pokemon is already turning into a non-traditional MMO.
The MMO of my nostalgic dreams is happening, whether you like it or not. Stay mad, Pokenerds.
>>269000391
>Stay mad, Pokenerds.
Alright.
>>269000391
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>>268996772
I'm trying Black 2 now - thanks, bros - the game at least has a catchy theme so far.
>>269000647
>>269000776
Don't even pretend you're not upset about the direction the series is moving in.
I'm going to pick up the new game that comes out next month. And I'm going to enjoy it. How does that make you feel?
>>268988125
I enjoy the PVP
>b-but I don't
tough luck buddy, you can't stop me from having fun playing pokémon PVP, suck it
however, I admit that the single player is too easy, not well balanced, there's a lot of bullshit in terms of less content, shitty animations and frame rates, etc etc etc
Gamefreak is shit and for anyone wanting single player pokémon I recommend Colosseum, not a portable Pokémon game
as for why it sells so much:
fully customizable party in a JRPG (with a ton of different possibilities)
of course, for single player that's all moot as you can sweep the floor with the AI anyways
>>268988264
>4 generations before they let you run inside buildings
Sasuga Gamefreak
>>269000975
That makes me feel happy for you anon.
>>269000953
Yeah, all of Gen 5's music is great.
>>269000953
Have fun anon, You picked an excellent game.
>>269000975
>Don't even pretend you're not upset about the direction the series is moving in.
Did anyone say they were mad about where the series is going?
>>268988264
Gen 3 had underwater, even those I despised it
