So many threads lately about X-COM and whether to buy Enemy Within. Here's the shit you need to know anons:
1) Get Enemy Within, improves the game significantly
2) Go to the X-COM Nexus site and read up on Long War
3) If you want something seriously hardcore and masochistic, download, install it and play it without adjusting it
4) If you want to make adjustments to the Long War mod check the forums on 'Modding Long War' on the mod's page on Nexus
You can mod so many aspects of it: enemy health, your soldier's health, aim, will, mobility (base and improvements), research and build time, starting power, perk bonuses...
We don't need Firaxis' shitty code.
Long War is great, I didn't even touch vanilla Enemy Within.
What's funny is haven't even done any genetic mods or cybernetic mods on my soldiers and I already beat EXALT
>>268612232
Pretty impressive anon. What classes you do use?
>>268611718
I'm playing vanilla Enemy Unknown and it's pretty good, I'll get Enemy Within eventually I guess, got that 80% off voucher from GMG.
Tried to start a thread a bit ago but nobody seems to want to discuss this game.
>>268612379
all of them? except maybe the RocketeerI savescum
>No way to assign classes to your soldiers
Frustrating as fuck. All I wanted was a Scottish Assault, a Canadian Sniper, a Russian Heavy, and a German Support. Is that so much to ask for?
>>268613791
>mfw my german heavy is named Hugo Stiglitz
Next run I'm going to keep dismissing and recruiting till all my men are from Israel
>>268612706
there's a /vg/ thread up usually
>>268613530
>save scumming
What's the point?
>>268612706
>not naming the Argentinian guy wyatt mann
>>268614029
I have fun facerolling aliens.
it takes time but it's satisfying.
>Start game
>Get key to alien base
>Expected to fight 50 fucking aliums many of which are berserkers
>Uninstall
Artificial difficulty.
>>268614029
>all those baseball caps
oh you.
>>268614208
>aggro'ing them all at once
>tfw no EW
>>268614208
>start game
>get key to alien base
>see this
>uninstall
Artificial difficulty.
>>268614474
oh my god I might get something like that when I get a key too
>>268613530
>try vanilla enemy unknown on normal after my budy tells me it's decent but piss easy
>have a hard time initially, then figure out to hang onto satellites until the end of the month and to start in africa
>still not a cake walk, lose a good number of men but never get fucked over to an unrecoverable point
>finish campaign, was decently challenging
>ask friend why he said the game was piss easy
>he tells me he saved scum'd
>terror mission on Impossible, "VERY HARD"
>it's okay I've done plenty of these and it's nothing at all
>squad is all max level, and it's on that dumb police HQ map
>walk into the main building
>four sectopods
>>268611718
btw, mods don't work on pirated copies
>>268614547
You basically can't lose after you get skeleton armor in vanilla
>>268614547
hey at least you both had fun
>TFW first time against Chryssalid
>I enter their range and they walk straight against my soldiers
>Poison them
>Kill civilians and make zombies that spawns at two steps of my soldiers
>I didn't knew you can't even stun the fuckers
T-thanks X-COM
Ive beaten the game twice with EW and once without, But I cant play Long war since I dont own EW on steam (I pirated it) Anyone got a EW -80% coupon they can spare so i can get it someday?
>>268614029
Because sometimes shit like this happens.
I killed the cyberdisc, it exploded one car, then the next exploded and then the next exploded, killing two of my guys from full health.
>>268615023
Come on cyber discs always explode when destroyed. You should've taken precautions against it
>>268614845
I know but the game is genuinely challenging when starting up, the mistakes and when shit hits the fan is partly what make it fun.
Especially if it's a custom dude.
>>268614847
I really hope they make another expansion, but from the alien perspective.
Imagine an xcom campaign were you are the aliens doing dastardly things and experimenting.ayy
>>268615250
I've never had that many cars chain explode though.
>>268615293
>Put all your points into thinmen spam
>Oneshot everyone from across the map and spit poison clouds at chokepoints
>>268615293
The devs said they'd love to make a sequel if EW does well, not sure how much it sold though. Probably too late to make your purchase matter now.
>>268615437
daily reminder that thin mints are just rookies that do light plasma damage without the +10 aim it provides
>>268614927
>Long War Chryssalids
>"hey what can go wrong, let's sit tight and overwatch!"
>Chryssalids run to me
>Reaction shot!
>Lightning Reflexes
yeah that does not work at all.
>>268615473
I vaguely remember them saying something about skipping terror from the deep and going straight to apocalypse. It was a long time ago and it was probably bullshit though.
>>268615473
From what I understand both games did well, it was a surprise hit.
It does very well whenever steam sales happen to boot.
I don't think the game had a retarded budget either, so I'm sure it made it's money back.
>get a sniper up to the point where you can get double tap or in the zone
>become virtually unbeatable
You don't even need to do anything with your other troops besides scout out enemies at that point. I remember how much I fucking laughed on the last level where I killed the grand ethereal on the same turn I found it because I just shot it twice with the sniper.
They didn't even balanced them out properly for Enemy Within either, it's retarded.
>>268615782
well, it was different but it was still about half as good as the original XCOM, and the original XCOM was so good even being half as good means a lot
Why doesn't LW work with the pirated version of the game?
>>268615674
>main city is built over the ruins of toronto and is inhabited by androids and sectoid human hybrids and humans
I bet the hockey team is still shit and the transit is slow
>>268615668
They tend to cluster together plus assaults have that ridiculous close combat specialist perk that can wipe out or damage entire pods of chryssalids in a single turn.
>>268616170
Pirates didn't made a decent crack.
>>268616181
yeah assaults are really good, but you have to kill that 'leader' chryssalid first. it's a good thing only he has the lightning reflexes perk.
>>268616170
You can as far as I know but it takes some extra effort.
>>268615668
Fucking LW chryssalids one shotting my dudes and dudettes, then face raping them and turning into zombies i have to kill
I cried so hard anons
>>268616405
I know, I understood it had something to do with some CPU bullshit, that's why I was asking out of curiosity
>>268616383
Wait until aliums research level increases to where they get regeneration and lightning reflexes. Fuuuuu
>>268611718
I didn't like EW because it made the game drastically fast paced to almost run and gun levels with that annoying canister collecting mechanic.
Then again, I would play Xenonauts over X-Com EU any day.
>>268613530
>not giving your rocketeers archangel armor
>>268616383
Lighting reflexes have diminishing returns which means the more overwatch fire it catches the less effective it would be. If a bunch of your troops fire on it by the time it reaches your assault he should be able to hit it. Not that it matters, he can empty his gun on multiple enemies in a single overwatch turn.
>>268617008
Mod it with non decaying meld canisters
>>268617304
>genius mechanic designed to reward aggressive play
>let's mod it out
casuals are the worst
>>268616170
It works fine with one crack but not the other.
>>268617447
I really liked the meld thing. Like you said, it awards an aggressive, but intelligent strategy. Which is what a real shadow organization would do against an alien threat. You couldn't let them run amok long, you would have to shut that shit down fast.
>>268613791
>What is Commander's Choice Mod
>>268617253
it's usually better to just shoot the damn thing or better yet, just grenade them
>>268618225
I think meld was brilliant because the base XCOM was a trade off between time and danger. Like, I could spend all damn day over watching my squad through the map, but it would take 50 turns. No decisions, no thought, just moving one man up to find a pod of enemies, then retreating to an overwatch line
It's not tactical genius, its autism
>>268618982
Yeah with the base game, I found myself getting aggravated by that very thing.
You think the devs made the meld the way they did to try and fix that? Or do you think it was just a lucky coincidence?
>>268614029
Is that the max squad size in LW? I want to have this many soldiers
>>268619651
The max is 12 I think. You start with the ability to field six men right off the bat.
>>268619651
Max is 10, with super skyranger, which you only take to base assaults.
Otherwise it's 8.
Last time ill ask if anyone has a spare coupon for EW
>>268619782
>>268619873
12 is for the temple ship assault.
Forgot about that.
>>268619782
>>268619873
Cool, is Long War even possible without tweaking? I'm thinking about editing the HP of aliens back to vanilla levels and playing it unedited otherwise
>>268619385
Quite obviously they did. It's the same concept as the bomb mission nodes except less punishing.
>>268619385
It was intentional, since most people just stuck to "overwatch with one scouter" for every mission.
The only thing I wish could have been implemented would be a "pay2rankup" system, where for a few hundred currency you could promote a soldier up to Corporal or higher or something, so that late game could have a B Team.
>>268620026
It's more than possible, its just a little too difficult sometimes.
I was still in my first month, and I was getting chryssalids with 15HP. So, sometimes it can be bullshit.
>>268620026
Why would you want to mod the HP of the aliens in LW?
>>268620276
That's one rocket and two nades or 1 - 2 shots from the default rifle
>>268620358
i wanted to avoid this, unless the increased squad number makes it easier to take down
>>268611718
should i install the Long War mod if i've just got the game from greenman
Does that add to the end of the game or is it some kind of overhaul mod
>>268621139
overhaul
Then you realize openxcom is better and you play that instead.Just kidding, you can play what you want
>>268621203
will i have missed anyting at all if i played this overhaul mod without playing it vanilla first
>>268621139
First grasp the basics in vanilla then when you get the meta go for LW, LW is to prove if you can win when the odds arent in your favor.
>>268617447
Subjective is subjective, chastising players for doing something fun to them in a game, for shame anon, you're missing le point of le vidya
>>268612706
I also named my first Canadian Maple Syrup.
>>268617447
>Casuals
Lol sorry I don't spend all day erry day playing vidya games. get a fucking life bro
So whats the best armor in this game
people tell me it's ghost
>>268620802
Not just the increased squad number, but the perks and weapon damage increases.
For example, a Jaegar MEC with pulse tech (one before last) can easily crit for 20+ and can shoot twice per turn. It also has the best aim of any class and starts with VPT. Dies really quickly though.
Thats not to say these things aren't difficult, but the game is less punishing when you lose a soldier compared to vanilla.
