Are Mario and Dr. Mario the same character ?
They have their own slot, their personnality seems to be different ( Doc looks more arrogant, cold and serious ), they are never referred has the same person in the trophy description.
Could Dr. Mario and Dr. Luigi be different Mario brothers or is the lore too deep for me ?
Deepest lore.
Dr Mario is Mario's dad who is disappointed that his sons became plumbers.
Considering Peach is his assistant, I would say they, indeed, are two entirely different Marios.
>>267549302
Mario's father.
>>267549302
Dr. Mario is the third and youngest Mario brother, who Mario and Luigi put through medical school with their plumbing business. That's why Mario and Luigi work so many jobs; carpenter in DK, pest control in Mario Bros, plumber, etc.
we need a mario timeline which includes dr. mario
Jumpman was a carpenter, married Palutena and had Mario as a son who went to medical school and became a doctor. He named his first son Mario Jr. who is the Mario we all know and love.
>>267549302
super mario = idealized adult version of a younger mario
Dr mario = actual adult mario
What does it mean when he does that one taunt? The one where he taps his shoulder with his fist. I feel like I've seen it somewhere before.
>>267549302
The oldest Mario Brother that pursued a life of medicine rather than plumbing.
>>267549838
>married Palutena
I know you meant Pauline but fuck, Palutena being a mom is pretty hot.
>>267549907
His body is falling apart.
The real mystery is why the Mario family abandoned Little Mac.
>>267549302
Son, did you read the description of the 1-UP trophy?
Why is Dr. Mario's recovery literally Little Mac tier now? Without customs it's unbareably bad
>>267549907
I don't get that taunt either, it does seem vaguely familiar. Also I don't know why he always has dogshit on his boots that he needs to get off, but he does.
>>267550163
He was too tall and properly proportioned to live in the Mushroom Kingdom so they let him go live with humans where he passed as just a regular short guy.
>his art render
>that winning animation where he ponders
Why does Dr Mario look so serious in Smash 4? There has to be a reason.
>>267549302
Timeline split after Galaxy. One where Galaxy is Mario's last adventure and his only encounter with Rosalina. Bowser gives up and Mario becomes a doctor. One where everything reboots and the Galaxy adventure happens very differently, Rosalina is not a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence, and the events of SMB2 actually happened.
>>267550602
He's a professional motherfucker
>>267550602
as he fights, he diagnoses patients and writes case studies
Doc is legit
This is the mario family tree.
>>267550574
That's also why he's able to beat people much larger than himself. Those Mario family genes give you crazy ass strength.
>>267549985
No. I didn't...
>>267550602
He's not into silly shit anymore. He is purely a man of business.
>>267550714
??? = Pauline
I don't see how Rosalina is Mario's daughter in any way. She's just god.
>but how can he be named mario if mario is named mario?
because all mario brothers share a last name. Mario.
Luigi's full name is Luigi Mario.
Mario's full name is Maio Mario. They are the Mario Bros.
Dr. is a title and Maio is his last name. But no one knows his first name.
>>267550409
>Being this dense
Honestly
>Bumping yourself on the neck
This is a sign that work has been done/ a show of confidence
>Stamping his foot out
He's calling you trash
>>267549302
Are Pit and Dark Pit the same character ?
They have their own slot, their personnality seems to be different (Dark Pit looks more arrogant, cold and serious ), they are never referred has the same person in the trophy description.
Could Dark Pit and Dark color Pit be different Pit twins or is the lore too deep for me ?
>>267550848
>not paying attention
>>267550896
Full name
Dr. Doctor Mario
>>267550637DEEPEST FUCKING LORE
>>267551045
>tfw the actual explanation for dark pit in Uprising literally does sound like the joking DEEP LORE shit people post on /v/
jesus christ imagine if someone told you the dark pit palette in brawl was made when pit broke an evil mirror that belonged to pandora as it was making an evil clone of him or some shit.
>>267550848
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JcK_Bfe3sw
>>267550163
I laughed way too fucking hard
http://www.mariowiki.com/Dr._Mario_64
>Wario will rush away, but he'll trip, causing the Megavitamins to spill out of the jar and onto Dr. Mario. Dr. Mario will swallow all of them and transform into Metal Mario.
METAL MARIO IS ACTUALLY DR MARIO, THE METAL MARIO YOU PLAY AS IN MARIO KART IS ACTUALLY DR MARIO TRANSFORMED
>>267551383
>Game Theory
Anon pls
>>267551505
But why does Dr/Metal Mario want to get rid of Mario? Why does he compete against himself?
>>267551505
>the same thing happens to Wario in Mario's story
why isn't Vampire Wario a separate character then?
>>267551383
The reason i don't like these is because of the fans they take everything in the video as fact when it's meant to be up to interpretation
Just when you think the lore couldn't get any deeper...
>>267551505
Now I want the Mario lineup in smash to be
>Jumpman
>Mario
>Luigi
>Dr. Mario
>Dr. Luigi
>Metal Mario
>Metal Luigi
>Metal Dr. Mario
>Metal Dr. Luigi
>Babby Mario
>Babby Luigi
>Metal Baby Dr. Mario
>Metal Baby Dr. Luigi
Reminder that if you hate clones like Dr. Mario you are children who complain about free food
>Dr. Mario
In the 1990 puzzle game Dr. Mario, Mario threw on a white coat and decided to take a shot at that whole "medicine" thing. In this game, he's a balanced fighter who can throw Megavitamin capsules and nimbly deflect blows with his Super Sheet. He's not quite as quick as normal Mario, but his attacks deal a bit more damage.
Either another brother or mario really tried out medicine at some point
>>267550714
Rosalina is Luigi and Peach's daughter
>>267551820
You forgot
>Golden Mario
>Golden Luigi
>Golden Dr. Mario
>Golden Dr. Luigi
>>267551750
>Overalls Wario
>Biker Wario
Maybe one is Vampire Wario who took on a disguise to better survive? But then, which one is the original? Did Wario quit treasure hunting to make microgames, with the Vampire taking his old place? Or is the new "Wario" just an imposter?
>>267551383
>rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina rawsalina
>>267551706
Well, maybe he's tired of having a person who looks like himself but goes into silly adventures, he's a serious man and shit like this might damage his reputation.
>>267551979
>Golden Metal Doctor Baby Mario and Luigis
>>267549302
I thought it was common knowledge that Dr. Mario is Mario from the future.
Plumber mario is Mario in his 20s, while Dr Mario is Mario a few years down after going ot school.
>>267552079
>tfw only one jumpman
So, what are the full list of differences between normal and Dr. Mario anyways?
>taunt with Dr. Mario
>shoves his foot into the ground a bit
Damn, Dr. Mario is pretty cold. I like it.
Alternate universe Mario that when to college and got the fun sucked out of him.
>>267552336
is he putting out a cigarette?
>>267550163
That news publication was an April Fools joke.
>>267551383
Posting Game Theory should get you banned.
>>267550896
Their last name isn't Mario. That was just the movie.
>>267552349
Mario Universe is the same as JoJo. When MiH happened, it also affected it.
Mario grew up to be a doctor, and Peach wasn't born into royalty and became a nurse.
>>267552887
>JoJo
I'd like to think it's more Mario is like Dandy.
>>267549612
>>267552009
>Wario in Smash has the biker outfit as default
>one of his moves involve biting
>just like vampires
>>267550637
>There's not just one timeline split at the end of galaxy, but several of them, each resulting in several different realities
>These realities are where the koopalings come from. In each of their native worlds, they were conceived as Bowser's child instead of Bowser jr.
Damnit now I want a Mario University sim type of game featuring all of the Mario characters.
>select your major
>pick which classes you want to take
>make friends and enemies on campus
>date other characters and [/spoiler] have sex
>>267552284
I can list some things off the top of my head.
>Megavitamins have more hitstun, more range and bounce higher and are affected more by gravity
>Super Sheet doesn't stall mid air
>Down+B is different
>Doc's Up+B kills above 120% and is less useful for recovery
>Doc's jab combo is slower but does more damage
>Dash attack has a shitton of active frames compared to Mario's. ie it lasts longer
I think FTILT and DTILT are the same, DTILT losing its backwards launching it had in melee
>UTILT does more damage, UTILT no longer sends enemies in in different directions, always up. UTILT can kill above 150%
>Doc's FSMASH kills earlier, but has less range (no fireball sweetspot)
>Doc's DSMASH kills earlier and the sweep that goes behind Doc is actually the strongest part, can kill from center stage at 100%
>Doc's USMASH kills earlier
>DTHROW has higher knockback, can't combo with it like mario can.
>BTHROW does more damage and slightly more knockback
>Doc runs slower, jumps lower, has faster falls speed but slower air speed, they share the same weight
>Overall Doc trades mobility for killing power, less combos than Mario, but lots of combos in general.
>>267553450
none of the koopalings are bowser's kids
>>267549302
>more cold and serious
>>267550637
And the world where Plumber Mario exists is "The World Where Everything is Based"
>>267549985
>>267550776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk08nxbp_JQ
>>267552284
Damage:
All moves are sweet spotted and non-angled. All moves not shown are equal (except down special, for obvious reasons).
Up Tilt: 6% Mario, 7% Doc
Down Tilt: 7% Mario, 5% Doc
Forward Smash: (uncharged): 17% Mario, 15% Doc
Forward Smash (charged): 23% Mario, 21% Doc
Up Smash (uncharged): 14% Mario, 15% Doc
Up Smash (charged): 19% Mario, 21% Doc
Down Smash (uncharged): 10% Mario, 13% Doc
Down Smash (charged): 14% Mario, 18% Doc
Forward Air: 14% Mario, 15% Doc
Back Air: 10% Mario, 13% Doc
Down Air: 10% Mario, 12% Doc
Up Special: 10% Mario, 13% Doc
Back Throw: 11% Mario, 12% Doc
Kill Moves:
All percentages are approximate. All moves are sweet spotted, uncharged and non-angled.
Forward Smash: 80% Mario, 70% Doc
Up Smash: 125% Mario, 110% Doc
Down Smash: 135% Mario, 90% Doc
Forward Air: 70% Mario, 105% Doc
Back Air: 140% Mario, 125% Doc
Back Throw: 140% for both
All other moves KO'd at percents above 150.
>>267553679
I thought that's where Lil B is from
>>267551112
Mario and Luigi raised Rosalina after the death of Peach.
That's why Mario is always off sleeping. He's depressed that his life-long love has died and Luigi is there to support him, even if he gets pissy at Mario's new drinking problem.
>>267550309
So that Dr. Mario has more apparent trade-offs and isn't just "Mario but better" like he was in Melee.
>>267553917
>Lil B
>Lil Bowser
>Bowser Jr.
>>267553508
>>267552284
Doc's FAIR doesn't spike, but it's still a very powerful kill more
>Doc's BAIR is simply better. 13% damage, knockback scales, kills
>Doc's UAIR does more knockback, can't kill
>Doc's DAIR lasts much much longer, does more damage
>Doc's NAIR is stronger the longer it's out, very useful for fast falling.
>>267553463
>The final exam for the hero course is pic related.
>>267550309
you can get better horizontal recovery with doc if you use down B right out of a jump and tap b as fast as possible.
>>267552079
>Golden Metal Doctor Baby Tanuki Mario
>>267553618
It's just a fighting stance, look at his taunts, they are rather goofy compared to Doc
>>267552284
another thing. Doc's moves have tons of priority in general so you could be hitting through things you couldn't with normal mario.
>>267552032
How the fuck do you pronounce it, then? "Ruh-zawl-in-uh"?
>>267555356
>Row-za-leena
>>267549890
So Mario is Captain Marvel?
>>267552630
why is game theory hated?
nobody takes it as true, the guy literally says at the end it is just a theory. a game theory.
>>267555526
Mario is billy batson
>>267555565
They're fedora-core SJW faggots that spout nonsensical shit and imply deeper meaning.
>>267555689
just like /v/
>>267549302
Dr. Mario is the first Mario brother, who left the Mushroom Kingdom because he was ashamed of living in a city run by sentient mushrooms. He moved to New York, went to medical school and goes by "Dr. Martin" at his practice.
>>267551117
forgot his nickname
Dr. Doctor "Doctor Mario" Mario
>In the Japanese version, due to a glitch, when the crowd is cheering for a Villager that is fighting against Dr. Mario, the crowd will instead cheer for the Ice Climbers, who do not appear as fighters in the actual game.
What's Dr. Mario's relation to the Ice Climbers? Perhaps he was trying to cure them of something?
>>267555789
The difference is that /v/ is being somewhat ironic.
>>267555689
I watched one of their videos once. Probably a Megaman one.
It was like watching babby's first deepest lore theory
I really like Dr. Mario in smash.
Only thing i'd add to him is that his megavitamins should be able to heal teammates in team battles.
He is a doctor after all.Super Smash Bros. RPG when? I wanna do some party balance with Wario as my tank and Dr. Mario as my healer along with Greninja as my rouge.
>>267556058
I guess you could sayhe cured the cold
>>267556109
>Greninja as my rouge
I don't think he'd make for very good make-up.
>>267556228
Fuck me i cant spell for shit.
>>267556058
They were chilling with fever
what are some medicine based characters?
>>267556058
Gonna need some sauce, friend.
>>267557403
now that's just weird
>>267557663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXSLNJ696bU
>>267551383
>RAH-ZALEENA
what the fuck?
>>267556058
>>267557787
What I don't get is, how? What happened within the coding or whatever to trigger this?
Hopefully Sakurai goes back on his word like he always does and makes them a WiiU exclusive character since the shitty 3DS can't handle them
