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Was your main buffed or nerfed in Smash 4?Also why the fuck don't we have an actual, proper R.O.B stage yet?
>>267505986
>No Gyromite or Stack Up stage
I know that feel man.
Buffed
dat hammer
Buffed as fuck.
>no longer tethered to the stamina gimmick
>better pokes thanks to the new F-air
>earlier kills and gimps
>FUCKING FLARE BLITZ
>better color choice, including proper blue and purple colors and an improved yellow/Dragonite color
Because every time they make a "retro NES" stage, its really bad.
My main was nerfed so much he's not in anymore.
My secondary, the Captain, got buffed as fuck so not all is bad in the world.
>>267506551
I like Balloon Fight.
Buffed to high hell.Though my main is Junior now.
>>267506401
>high pitched sound indicating when he's about to use flare blitz
>dodge and watch as he flies off stage
either that or block it to abuse you since it leaves you open as fuck
Rock smash can be a bitch though, as it renders him unflinchable.
>>267505986
He got buffed as fuck.
>Aura effect is way better
>Less slower and his smash attacks are way faster.
>>267506401
I still miss old F-air. That flame spout was so fun.
Don't cry for me.
I'm already dead.
He's fantastic.
feels bad man
>>267506996
>his smash attacks are way faster.
Were they that slow in Brawl? Goddamn.
>>267507069
It's my first smash and I love him, isn't he basically identical in the other games?
>Peach
If she was an A before, I give her a B- now.
>>267507304
They fucking gutted him for no reason.
Its the worse he has ever been.
Who new main here?
Buffed enough.
His Side B links to Down A now, giving me absolutely 0% reason to play PM, and I feel as if the tripping removal helped Ganondorf more than anyone.
>>267507235
He was slow as fuck in Brawl. Which doesn't make any sense because he had a base speed of 90 in Pokemon.
>>267506824
Flare Blitz still has a little bit of armor prior to the rush, and it beats almost every projectile during the rush. Not good to be used raw, but between that and Rock Smash he can challenge every other character.
Who would've thunk Charizard would finally learn to love rocks?
>>267507613
The new model looks so weird. That pose...
>>267507613
I think he's better than people give him credit for.
>>267507613
Haven't played Ganon much in this game. If I can still geronimo off stage and punch niggas with the forward air, then I'll probably play him from time to time.
>Lucas cut
Feels bad man.
Rob feels good. Sheiks side b isn't trash anymore so that's nice.
Can't even look under Peach's dress anymore so what's the point in using her? She feels a little slower too.
>>267506996
I still don't have a 3DS how's lucky compared to Project M?
PM feels like I'm playing God Hand.
>>267508051
>she feels slower
Many of her moves are slower. Hell, look at her pull out a turnip.
Nerfed out of existance.
>>267508175
>how's lucky compared to Project M
Better overall, since PM's redesign is shit. If you only played him in PM, he's going to feel a hell of a lot different.
>main rob in brawl
>smash 4 comes out
>literally buffed in every single way except his recovery
>lost almost all horizontal movement in his up b and you can't fastfall his nair forward as much as you could
I'm torn.
>>267506306
>one of kirby's custom hammers does 40% fully charged
>>267508292
You can still attack out of his up special and continue moving upwards afterward.
>>267507069
Can someone list to me all the things that got buffed and nerfed for G&W?
>>267508547
he get's level 1 judge a whole fucking lot more, that's for sure.
>>267507787
His eyes are really fucking off too.
Maybe it's the 3DS model, but his eye shadow and eye size in game does not match his last appearance or official art.
>>267508465
im talking about how it takes forever to get started going and even then you can just barely move horizontally with it. you can't just puff it like you could in brawl and conserve fuel and travel really far. it literally takes all the gas you've got to get back up even with the stage
Nerfed like hell
He was so close to the top he's still viable but he's no longer the killing machine he was in Melee or Brawl, though.
They've buffed the puff. That's all that matters
>>267508547
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Mr._Game_%26_Watch_%28SSB4%29
>>267508286
>since PM's redesign is shi
i prefer his PM style to smash 4's stupid shit. I sure love having him survive to 200% because of his aura buffed up b :^)
Can't get any more nerfed than cut due to the 3DS being too weak.
On a similar note, I used Squirtle and Ivysaur far more than Charizard
>Can't play Luigi or Lucario
They're too floaty for me, I can't approach from above with them with out taking an Up Smash. (or counter with Lucario)
>>267508671
He'll look better in the Wii U game. Literally everyone else does.
Are they ever going to add dual audio? I fucking hate Shulk's British voice
Overall buffed, but the fact that up-tilt no longer has a bajillion active frames or pre-emptively catches rolls behind you anymore is a big nerf in my eyes.
>>267508745
Use his back air for horizontal movement.
>>267508930
FUCKING THIS.
Is it too much to want to hear what LETSA GO sounds like in Japanese? Fucking Hackurai
>>267508930
I guess you just aren'treally feeling it.
>>267509109
Martinet is the voice actor for Mario internationally.
You will never hear anything but LETSA GO.
>>267509109
Uh, anon..
>>267507069
>oil still does like 50% damage
That so hot
>>267508789
>i prefer his PM style
Have fun playing PM, then.
>>267509109
>this is what dual audiofags ACTUALLY think
>>267509325
but i'm playing smash 4
>>267509109
You always have the option of playing the JP version.
>>267508930
>not feeling it
>>267509196
I hate British people. I turned the audio in Xenoblade to the shrill Japanese voices just so I didn't have to deal with British voices.
>>267509109
Oh man, should I tell him guys or what?
>TFW Olimar main.
>>267508789
Also, if you getting hit above 150 and not dying, then someone isn't doing their job right. Lucario is a glass cannon.
>>267508930
Guess it's seen as a waste of resources, at least for the 3DS...
Only Pit, Dark Pit, Palutena, Ike, Robin, Lucina, Meta Knight, Fox, Falco, Greninja, Lucario, WFT, Shulk, and Sonic have different voices.
Is there a new tier list yet? I know it's still new but anyways
>>267509590
Just play as someone else. Shulk's terrible anyway.
>>267509771
Still mad they changed Sonic's taunts. He had some of the best taunts. Mixed feelings on Zelda's wave, though.
>>267505986
Wii U version for sure right?
>>267508789
>allowing him to survive to 200%
>complaining
You need to either meteor him, smash him while he's using his up-special (it's possible), or land a different kill kove before 200%. Nobody should have a life lasting that long (though I do sometimes with DK).
>Main Mario in Brawl
>Literally the day before Sm4sh i discover luigi's amazing tornado recovery
>Use Luigi in Sm4sh
>Nerfed tornado recovery and up b
Well at least he's got his Mr. Krabs dash attack
DESTROYED BEYOND REPAIR.
>Useles spike
>No reach
>Side B only hit once in a while
>SLOOOOOOOOOW smash
>Useless blaster
>Only his tilts are good.Literally
The only thing that keeps me of dropping him is because he's the best Nintendo character ever created.
>>267509946
l-lag makes it hard to land my kill moves
>>267510035
That shit is obnoxious in the computer's hand.
>frame perfect dash attacks
You thought you could move? NOPE.
>followed by a forward air
Fuck you.
>>267508930
>looking forward to playing as Shulk and Robin
>Shulk has his faggy British voice
>Robin has a booming American voice
Time to main Robin
>>267509817
Viable: ZSS, Diddy, Greninja, Sheik, Yoshi, Bowser, Little Mac on FD, Sonic, both Pits, Duck Hunt.
Not Viable: Everyone else.
>>267510245
I like Pit's new voice. He sounds like a complete dork.
>>267506774
Would be awesome if the "appearing through the other side" applied when you get launched.
As it is now, is just another shitty walk-off crap.
>>267510074
>The only thing that keeps me of dropping him is because he's the best Nintendo character ever created.
I felt the same about Falco when I first saw him in 64, I'm so sorry Anon.Meleefags can bite it.
>>267510245
>no rosalina
>no dhd
>no rob
>>267510074
I feel you, brah.
But at least we got Little Mac now.
>>267510446
>no dhd
Are you blind?
>>267510245
>this is what tourneyfags actually believe
>>267510218
IT'S TIME
>>267505986
I'm still waiting for a proper stage for Bowser, the section in the Paper Mario stage doesn't count.
>>267510074
he doesnt even have his boston accent anymore
>>267510575
Nope, Male Robin DOESN'T SAY THAT HAHA.
He says "let's tip the scales".
>>267510245
Robin and Ike are good
>>267510074
Falco is still decent. He still has one of the best jabs in the game, some of his throws all of good followups into higher percents, has 3 decent aerial, and racks up damage fast. His only real flaw is killing. He's not top tier material, but he's way better than the likes of olimar, ike, and luigi
>>267510762
Ike is horrible. Robin is all zoning gimmicks.
>Main Yoshi, Pit and Ness
Finally feels good to be alive.
>>267510874
>Give Falco Ragnell
Problem solved.
>>267505986
>Ganondorf
Default moves are pretty much the same, down air and warlock punch are easier to hit now, haven't tried the custom ones yet, but i heard that they are amazing.
>Dadidou
Buffed. I'm gonna miss the waddle-dee/waddle-doo/gordo throw, but the new side-b is arguably better.
>Wario
Buffed. Bike is now useful for damage instead of being just a recovery move and you recover health when you eat items (except explosives). And his animations look much better now.
I miss his side-smash attack, tho.
>Diddy
only his up-special was buffed. but now its much better.
>sheik
Buffed. Her new moves are pretty damn good.
>zelda
Holy fuck, she is much better now. Dat phantom stand move is great, and the new din's fire is really good too.
That air kick that made that "crit" effect (like captain falcon's killer knee) feels weaker now.
Haven't tried little mac yet, and bowser is really awesome to play now. Dat dropkick.
>>267511815
>Dat phantom stand move is great
What's so good about it? I only heard negative things.
>>267511815
All of Diddy's aerials were buffed, dash attack was arguably buffed.
>>267512047
It's not and he's retarded. It's easily one of the worst moves in the game
Playing as Wario feels so fucking good.
>finish someone using a fart
>then bike + taunt
Fucking glorious.
>>267512047
Well, i liked it. Does a good amount of damage, the only problem for me is that you stay vulnerable when you are charging it.
I'm not really into the competitive side of smash, so that might make a difference.
>>267512275
Well, i liked the move. There is no need to be an asshole because of that.
>>267512047
I like the aesthetic. It's not a move you can just throw out, though./
>>267511815
Zelda's aerials are weaker.
>>267511815
>diddy's up special
>better now
This fucker explodes on contact with anything now. Its more maneuverable but it cover less vertical distance than before. What is makes up in being able to move horizontal was already covered by the karate flip. Shit is substantially worse, like frustratingly worse.
In online I have a losing record with him but have done 1500% more damage (in about 50 matches) than I've take on account of his exploding all over everything.
>Also why the fuck don't we have an actual, proper R.O.B stage yet?
We might get a Gyromite stage, so there's that.
Nerfed, he lost his Melee physics
>>267512912
No great cave offensive
Fake
>>267508639
The level 1 judge don't give you damage if you miss the target though
THE KNEE HAS RETURNED
>Zelda
Can't tell
>Palutena
Newcomer
>Sheik
I think so
>Link/Toon Link
I also think so.
Never been into competetive smash, but I'm trying to now.
>>267509289
> defeating Final Boss 9.0 with oil spill collected from absorbing Sword Boss projectiles
shit feels so good mang
>>267513130
Toon Link is better than Link.
>>267508959
He needs better smash attacks. This multi-hit bullshit sucks. At higher percentages, you can only ever land one of the hits, and trying to land two leaves you wide open.
I dabbled with ROB a bit in Brawl and now he's my favorite character. Also I pretty much want a gyromite stage for this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1YmeZs91bs
He was buffed to perfection.
