Did you like Fallout 3 or New Vegas more?
3 on everything
>>265346298
i don't understand the love for new vegas, all the characters sucked, the locations had nothing to do with anything and the story was bad
>>265347642
>>265347659
>>265348043
>>265348152
>i find it enjoyable spraying my feces on others
>>265346298
Fallout 3 had an actually atmospheric wasteland, New Vegas' was just stupidly overpopulated and it doesn't make sense that people can grow plants in a Fallout game. How is there even non-irradiated water? /v/ just adores New Vegas because 3 is too mainstream.
>>265349549
agreed.
>>265346298
3 of course
NV was inferior in every design
i wish obsishit would go fuck itself
3, period.
Obsidian has no idea what makes a Fallout game, and are shit at coding.
Fallout 3 was at least fun to play.
I'm drowning on all the bait on this thread.
>>265349549
plus tht undergorund ghoul city in 3 was on point
>this thread
Fallout 3 > Fallout 1 > Fallout New Vegas > Fallout 2
Bugs and out of date references don't make a good game
>>265350243
who says we're baiting?
>new vegas
>expensive fallout 3 DLC
pick both
>>265346298
3. I don't like games set in deserts or other boring places like New Vegas.
>>265346298
>this fucking thread
3 is in my top 5 games of all time.
100's of hours logged.
i couldn't even stomach 30 plus hours in new vegas just not the same
NV is just missing that certain... spark that 3 had.
>>265350527
the dlc's for 3 stomped the fuck outta the ones in new vegas
I prefer 3 because it was my first Fallout game and I have a lot of nostalgia for it.
>never get to blowup megaton from the tempenny tower again for the first time
damn this werld
>>265346298
>tfw no one will ever appreciate mothership zeta for making the bravest changes to fallout lore
Fallout 3 had an actual post-apocalyptic feel to it. New Vegas just felt like another day in the desert and it just felt boring the whole way through.
>>265350243
>obsidianfag can't handle criticism
Quick, blame it on the publisher for forcing them to release it too soon.
>obsidianfags are so far gone that anyone who says they prefer Fallout 3 is "baiting"
>>265351028
>pulling the lever and destroying 1/8th of the planet
Biggest "oops" I've had in gaming.
>>265350797
>nostalgia
It came out in 2008, faggot.
>>265351028
I thought it was fun and exciting, and the fallout universe already had lots of stupid bullshit in it that was semi-canon/canon. There were aliens in fallout 1 and 2, semi-canon Doctor Who references, and all sorts of nerdy shit.
Who gives a shit if Fallout 3 full blown embraces science fiction? It was fun.
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What the actual fuck is going on here
>>265349549
But that's wrong, faggot. Agriculture is a thing in fallout. Clean water is a thing - it's a pain in the ass to make, but that's why there's water merchants.
Hell, in Fo2 you start in a settlement with active agriculture.
But you wouldn't know that if you only played Fo3
>>265351658
advanced shitposting
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lol
I'm actually surprised more people are saying 3, haven't been here in years but it was always 99% new vegas.
Anyway 3 here. New vegas does some things right, but there are no fucking dungeons. Its a game on bethesdas shitty engine. The only reason to play is to waste time running a dungeon every now and again
>>265351658
the best thing ever
>>265351425
thats like 6 years.
thats enough for someone to go from their highschool teens to college days
but seriously though, 3 was way better than nv
>>265351873
>it was always 99% new vegas
that's because this is some weird kind of shitposting, not legit opinions. Don't bother responding.
>>265349549
>I have only played Fallout 3 and New Vegas
New Vegas was alright, but there just wasn't enough to do or see compared to 3. I mean for fuck's sake 3 had a giant robot.
>>265351990
>2008 was 6 years ago
Shit.
>>265351658
A lot of samefagging.
>>265351725
>>265352102
How the hell does that picture make ANY sense to you? They're growing wheat or some shit in a goddamn irradiated desert.
Why would you even play the earlier Fallouts? It's a pain in the ass to get them working on modern systems and it's not like the
stories are anything special.
>muh water chip
>muh enclave oil rig
@265346298
Definitely 3. Its one of the greatest games ever made and an all time classic. New Vegas got boring in the first hour.
New Vegas was the better game by far, and this thread is pure samefagging.
>>265346298
both are good but i prefer 3
>>265346298
I liked 3 more. New Vegas was too much open barren wasteland or weird ass themed areas that only had 1 or 2 points of entry where the whole scene changed (the red valley with those yurt nerds, that city in the north in the mountain or something). Something about it I just didn't like.
>>265351873
Ignoring the obvious shitposting for a second.
>but there are no fucking dungeons.
This isn't really wrong. New Vegas has a huge problem with combat opportunities. More fiend outposts would have helped.
>>265352189
0/10 try harder
This shit is getting out of control!
>>265352189
>muh water chip
>muh enclave oil rig
Which is literally 3's story.
>>265346298
I enjoyed the ability to just go and explore shit in 3 more, but I recognize NV was superior from a story and writing perspective even if survival and ammo crafting was useless compared to the OP weapon crafting in 3
>>265352061
lol says the dumbass, i legitimately think 3 is way better than new vegas, glitchy ass snore fest
This poll has been conducted numerous times on /v/
The results were New Vegas 80% Fallout 3 20%
>>265351425
It's 2014. Besides, you can be nostalgic for something that happened a week ago.
>He doesn't use GoG or Steam
>>265351725
You can't have a field of crops if clean water is very scarce, retard. It makes no sense.
>>265352360
Nah, this shit is like 90% samefag shitposting.
>glitchy ass snore fest
oh yeah like F3
>>265351337
Don't even like obsidian, haven't even posted in this thread yet.
I played New Vegas and Fallout 3 and all the DLC for both. The only thing 3 has over NV is a better sandbox.
>>265352434
Difficult to purify, not scarce.
>hurrdurr ppl don't agree with me, it's obviously shitposting or samefagging
suprised ppl have their own opinions?
>>265352242
>If a group of people like what I don't like they're samefagging
You're not very bright, are you?
>Move into dorm recently
>Walk into my floor's social lounge
>Guy playing Fallout 3 on the big screen
>"Oh, cool. I prefer New Vegas, but 3 is alright."
>Everyone in the room looks at me with a funny face
>The guy says, "But New Vegas sucks. It barely even has the Brotherhood of Steel, and they're badass and strong"
>"Uh, well, actually New Vegas is a more true to the original depiction of the Brotherhood. They're not really the good guys like in 3, but-"
>"Who cares about the originals? 3 is so much better than those old games."
>Ask if he;s tried them
>He says no
>They start telling him to start the DLC
>They start saying how awesome Operation Ankarage is
>They all agree it's the best thing in Fallout
Why are college kids acting like 12 year olds? I don't get it.
>wow they dont llike my glitchy new vegas shit
>it must be samefagging!
so delusional
Holy shit, /v/ actually IS dead. Thanks moot.
>>265352652
we already know ~80% of people on /v/ prefer New Vegas. This thread is just samefagging and it's really easy to tell from the quality and style of the posts.
>>265352482
New Vegas fags gotta grab a fucking tissue because MOST people like fallout 3 more.
New Vegas has a good story but I don't play games for the stories. I play Bethesda games for the fun of dicking around. And DC is better than Vegas any day of the week
This was a pretty good DLC though I will admit that
>>265346298
New Vegas. 3 had a better soundtrack and some more unique locations, though.
>>265352548
Same thing, turbonerd.
>>265352730
The 12 year olds have grown up to be 18 year olds.
>>265352730
>Operation Ankarage
Nice try but this obviously never happened.
>>265351425
does it have to be fucking archaic for me to be nostalgic about it?
new vegas
>>265352771
>MOST people like fallout 3 more
doesn't make it a better game.
>>265352772
The Pitt and Point Lookout were legit as fuck, they're probably the best parts of the game.
>>265352730Operation Anchorage was my favorite DLC. I beat all of them.
@265352759
80% of people on /v/ are dumb then.
>>265352759
Because a strawpoll that was only active for an hour represents the entire population of /v/, right?
New Vegas is the better overall experience
3 has the better setting
>>265352772
Fucking the pitt man.
Went in going to assassinate the Authoritarian leader. Made a complete 180 when I saw what he was up to.
>>265352961
New Vegas is definitely better.
>tfw just finished Dead Money
>>265352832
>Show an image that clearly shows water is plentiful enough to grow crops in Fo2
>"hurr durr it's scarce turbonerd"
Still wrong.
Difficult to produce =/= Scarce
Villages, Towns and Cities are a thing in Fallout. They need to eat something, and it sure as hell isn't radroaches.not that they don't eat them too
>>265352434
Look up Babylon and Mesopotamia. Humans always find a way.
>>265353034
>active for an hour
Nope. That fucker was kept going for a few days in multiple threads.
>>265352948
3 is a better game. New Vegas has muh story and muh lore but the average non-autisist doesn't give a shit about your deep ass, boring ass story, they want to roam a post apocalyptic wasteland and loot dungeons
>>265353034
We've held those polls a thousand times, over and over. New Vegas always won by a large margin. Hell, go to the Fallout general in /vg/. 99% of them will be playing New Vegas.
New Vegas would've been better if it wasn't so dreadfully fucking dull.
>dusty town
>desert
>desert
>an outpost
>desert
>some rocks
>more desert
I get what they were going for, but it just isn't interesting or fun for an open sandbox game. Fallout 3 had more varied locations so you actually felt excited to go exploring.
>>265352961
I'm actually going to give you a 10/10 just because you put more effort into it than most people do.
>Fallout 3 came out 6 years ago
>All the 12 year olds who love Fallout 3 are now old enough to post on 4chan
This DLC however...
this is not samefagging, if you ask someone if they like one game over another and they say the opposite one that you like it's not a fucking joke it's their opinion, this isn't even an argument tht 3 is better than the other one's i like the one's b4 3 better, but 3 better than NV which came after, and developed by a studio thats been dead on the inside for years.
>>265351105
>criticism
I have yet to hear an actual valid criticism of NV from a FO3 fan.
suddenly /v/ thinks 3 is much better than NV.
Not that I care, because I always liked 3 better, aside from the green everywhere and I guess the not very crazy cool setting, but wow, this is completely the opposite of /v/ like a year ago.
>>265353319
>Fallout 3 came out when I was 16
>Remember all the butthurt lorefags with their panties in a knot
>Been posting on /v/ since I was 13
I preferred 3 because of the whole "atmosphere" argument, but recently replayed New Vegas. It's better in every possible way, and I'm not sure why that didn't sink with me on my first play through.
>>265346298
Gonna go with 3 just based on the fact that the world was immediately open as soon as you got out of the vault.
New Vegas tried to tie me to a story that I didn't really care about, albeit an open world, hazards and obstacles were made specifically to make you follow the story.
The game play of NV was better, for sure, but I just enjoyed having the option to walk around and discover without being automatically jerked to follow the story.
>>265353454
Made by a developer thats never been able to release a game without it being a complete mess.
>>265353498
that's because this is samefagging and not representative of /v/ as a whole.
>>265353165
Dead Money was the worst DLC for NV, to date. Fact.
>>265353034
Are you actually retarded?
>>265353637
Are you talking about Fallout 3 or New Vegas?
>>265353693
Dead Money was fucking excellent
>>265346298
After playing FO1 and FO2 and realizing how much 3's story is just a poor mashed-up retelling of 1&2's story, it really made me like Fallout 3 a lot less
Fallout New Vegas was mechanically better than 3 in pretty much every way. I didn't really like NV much on my first playthrough, but every playthrough since has been great.
>>265353693
Now that's just shitposting, son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unV3EaTXltY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCkwAgTcDBw
>>265353672
and it doesn't have to be, these are "individual" opinions
New Vegas was the video game equiviant of a filler arc, it lacked the significance that 3 had.
>>265348152
>someone disagrees with me this is obviously bait
>>265353637
FO3 remains the more unstable of the two games. That is factually accurate.
>>265353187
Let me guess, you're going to over exaggerate how difficult it is to purify water.
Water itself can't be irradiated. It's the shit in the water that is irradiated. Filtering or distillation is sufficient to produce potable water.
The pain in the ass bit comes in having a facility large enough to do this and supply farms with useable water. Something a town or city might have.
People today call this a water treatment plant.
Fallout 3 DLC tier list
>God Tier
Point Lookout
>Good Tier
The Pitt
>Meh Tier
Operation Anchorage (dat infinite ammo glitch and dat loot doe)
>Shit Tier
Mothership Zeta
New Vegas DLC tier list
>God Tier
OWB, Dead Money, Survivalist Logs
>Great Tier
Lonesome Road
>Good Tier
Honest Hearts
>>265349549
>I found a flaw in a video games realism
BRAVO
>>265353915
Some of them are genuine opinions, and that's fine. The vast majority are obvious samefag.
>>265353794
>Are you talking about Fallout 3 or New Vegas?
Are you in that much denial obsidianfag? Bethesda games have bugs but they are at least playable and don't have tons of stuff cut out making the game a cluster fuck.
I likes'em both
>>265353693
>casual that cannot handle, much less appreciate, a challenge
Dead Money was designed to put you out of your comfort zone. Acquire ability.
>>265354098
did you play Fallout 3 on release? Did you see Skyrim on PC (sound bugs causing the game to crash on launch) and PS3 (literally fucking unplayable)?
I would say 3 had an overall better radio, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MJbXsN7dlk&list=PLEEE94F1579AC5600&index=3
damn
Mysterious Broadcast kills it
>>265354013
i am making my physics master degree and i can tell you that you're bullshitting us here
You do worship Joshua Graham, right?
If this isnt bait then all is truly lost on /v/. This is the future you chose /v/; where do we go from here /v/irgins?
>>265347642
>>265347659
>>265348043
>>265349823
>>265349969
>>265350121
>>265350502
>>265351056
>all these samefags
If FONV came out before Fo3, all these Fo3 lovers would probably be drooling for FoNV nostalgia over Fo3.
FONV really got mulled over just from the fact that it had not been the first *modern* fallout game to draw the attention of new fans of the series and that it also used the same engine as F3, (Not to mention shorter development time)
These arguments/threads are always so silly because you can interchange both games and they'd probably have opposite outcomes depending on which would come out first. Both are great games that followed different goals, and respectively achieved them
(Fo3 introduced a ton of new fans to the series, through a well-known development studio. FoNV created a spiritual successor to the previous games with developers from the older studio, which many old school fans appreciated in terms of story & lore)
>>265354263
Explain how H20 can be irradiated them.
>>265354263
I have a doctorate in physics and I can tell you that he's absolutely correct.
>>265354098
>Bethesda games have bugs but they are at least playable
You can boot up FO3 without mods, to this day and have it crash and freeze on you, have NPCs fall through the game world and become unaccessable, among other potentially game breaking bugs. You can boot up the functional equivalent of NV without mods today and it will run perfectly fine. To try and argue otherwise is a blatant lie, and quite frankly shitposting.
I like New Vegas better but I used to go bowling with some of the guys that worked on it so I dunno. Only played it once though.
Never cared for Fallout 3.
>>265354043
>not Survivalist Logs/Joshua Graham
shiggy
My favorite part of one of my favorite games ever.
>>265353794
>>265354208
>>265353910
It didn't take skill. If you do what you always do, position yourself correctly, conserve ammo, and be careful; then it was a cakewalk.
My problem with it is the story, I absolutely loathed it.
>>265354387
>>265354263
I have a theoretical degree in physics and I can confirm that water can probably be irradiated
>>265354517
>>265354263
>>265354387
I am physics and you're all wrong
>>265354459
Whoosp forgot about him. Him and the logs carried the DLC
>>265354517
I know as much about irradiated water as anyone I know and I can confirm that water probably can't be irradiated
>>265354603
I am Dog and you need to get out of my skull.
>>265354517
I have physics in theoretical degrees and I'm positive you're an imbecile.
>>265354320
I don't think you have too much to worry about anon. Some rather comprehensive polls were taken fairly recently and NV wins by a landslide compared to FO3 in every instance.
>>265354403
>functional equivalent of NV
muh community patches
>>265354772
DOG, BACK IN THE CAGE.
>>265354772
I'm God and I'm a total dickward that thinks I'm real smart and important just because I'm not as stupid as an average super-mutant
>>265354341
>i obviously know what im talking about, so that justifies me calling all of you dumb asses for having individual opinions
>>265354772
Dog, back in the cage
>>265354772
I am Groot and I am looking for my friend Harold
>>265354043
OWB is so fucking good.
I don't remember the survivalist logs though. Is that part of honest hearts or something?
>>265354801
Try running FO3 with all its DLC and no mods and compare it to running NV with all its DLC and no mods.
If you are trying to tell me that FO3 is the more stable, better running game then you literally have downs syndrome.
>>265354341
Just leave the thread bro. Let these faggots wallow in their shit taste.
/v/ is either lost or their has been a huge collaboration to troll us
>>265354926
I am Kroot, and I am here to devour you and absorb your DNA.
3 has an interesting world, awful mechanics, and fucking awful dialog with a shitty story. NV has a slightly less interesting world which starts to deteriorate once you get to Vegas, better mechanics though still hindered by Bethesdas shitty engine, good dialog and a decent story that has LOADS of unfinished content.
Neither are perfect games, though NV can be somewhat more enjoyable. It's a lot harder to ignore everything else in FO3 except for exploring and not talking to people. Especially when you get to places like LL and Big Town.
It's all so incredibly stupid.
>>265354985
yes. they're kind of out of the way, in caves and stuff
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Randall_Clark_terminal_entries
give em a read, it's really worth it
Fallout 3 had better savaging and random events
New Vegas had the better world and lore
Slapping on NVEC gives New Vegas all the bonuses of 3 though.
>>265354898
Come talk to me when you get proper research funding for your miscalculated projects you ghoulish pleb. OSI isn't going to support substandard misconceptions here.
>>265349549
>atmospheric wasteland
The strip and fee side had more atmosphere than anything in FO3, the metro was fucking horrible, the D.C. Ruins felt like walking through a maze, and I wanted to side with the enclave, but you are literally forced to go white knight and you get one final decision at the end that only impacts a few cutscenes.
With NV your decisions actually had an impact, and I do agree that the Courier has no backstory and is not even a well written character, I mean he didn't have to chase Benny why didn't he just go back to the express? But besides that NV was so much better, it had more variety and I though the factions system was pretty good, considering its fallout
>>265355176
>3 had an interesting world
>NV has a slightly less interesting world
How do you fucking figure?
>>265355271
>>265354341
I'm not the only one who thought he looked like Edison, right?
>>265351028
Fallout is not good at close combat.
Zeta was 80% close combat with aliens
It felt like playing a generic slow paced FPS with horrible AI
Fallout New Vegas had more fallout lore, which is fine for people who like lore.
Fallout 3 had less lore but more to do. No endless money gun shop, much more interesting locations and a better hub city of DC than Vegas.
And if I had a dollar for every time I was told to play NV I would be fucking rich. Fallout 3 is the better game, hands down. Less hand holding, more exploring and doingfunthings to do. Better DLC too
>>265346298
New Vegas had better characters, gameplay, story and lore adherence.
Fallout 3 had better atmosphere and locations.
I enjoy them both immensely for different reasons.
>>265355271
tell moot that b4 u go to bed tonight
>>265353238
>People in the Fallout general are playing the most recent iteration in the franchise the most
Holy shit, what a breakthrough, Detective Dumbass.
>>265346298
New Vegas has better characters, gameplay, and quests, but Fallout 3 isn't in a fucking desert so I like that one more.
>>265346298
I like both.
Fallout 3 felt more like an explorable wasteland and more comfy.
New vegas is fun for the DLC besides dead money and dead money was more about a painful lesson than anything.
>>265354507
>Story in the past about constructing a casino for people to enjoy but the owner has to do some horrible background deals with the Think Tank to acquire the special security tech he's after. One of the conditions is using the casino as a testing ground for the Cloud. Sinclair spends a bare minimum on the Villa and redistributes all of the workers outgoings to him. Meanwhile the workers themselves get sick from the Cloud and the bulky green hazard suits are ordered in. Vera Keys gets trapped and everyone in the casino is killed by the holograms. Vera decides to overdose on stimpacks and Sinclair dies in the vault. The workers go insane and start wandering the streets. The casino is perfectly preserved.
Then the story in the present is about Elijah coming in with squads of greedy people he captured. He finds out they will betray each other to claim what's in the casino's vault so he decides to attach bomb collars to them. You meet up with a super mutant named Dog, a Brotherhood Scribe Christine and Dean Domino, Vera Keys former friend now ghoulfied who has been wandering the Villa for 200 years trying to enter the vault. Each of the characters has a history that links to other parts of the game. You eventually find your way into the casino's vault while uncovering the history of the Madre and find out Elijah's plan to use the holograms and the cloud as an unstoppable army to wipe NCR off the map but manage to lock him in the vault, save all 3 companions and walk out of there with gold bars worth 500,000 in caps
This seemed like a pretty good story to me. Maybe using the casino as a weapon is a bit farfetched but uncovering what happened in the past and seeing how everything came to be as it was when you visited the casino was just fantastic.
>>265355629
What a silly thing to do
>>265346298
NV for sure. Not going to bother giving reasons because you asked what I like. I like NV more than 3.
>>265346298
they're both equally bad.
>>265355526
>Fallout 3 had less lore but more to do.
Yes, exploring the metro tunnels for the nth time is so thrilling.
As is exploring random dilapidated building #57 that has no plot or world relevance.
Just so much to do! So much more interesting!
>>265355347
3's level design was pretty good, reminded me of Morrowinds mountainous geography that hid a lot of different locations. There were a lot of invisible walls though (aka conveniently placed rubble), not to mention the subways were terribly copy pasted.
Obviously since you're traversing the desert in NV, it's going to seem less interesting. But tell me with a straight face that seeing the distant lights of Vegas miles and miles away didn't get you hyped. Then you finally got there and realized how much consoles fucked this game over.
>>265355106
>>265355106
Can NV fags at least admit that Vegas fucking sucked? Having to walk a fucking mile to get anywhere was fucking terrible. The strip was better than the city but still doesn't hold up to a giant empty Oblivion city.
>>265355696
What WAS the Cloud, anyway? Did it turn the workers into Ghost People?
>>265355943
the only really bad thing about Vegas was that you had to go through like 3 different cells to get to the other side, and you couldn't just fast-travel your way in.
>>265355795
Better than open wasteland nothingness with the same 5 raiders slopping on your overpowered knob.
>>265355795
What, most of the buildings held some story relevance...
>>265355802
The Strip was underwhelming but how does that equate to NV having a "less interesting world"? NV actually had interesting factions and political dynamics. 3 had hurr durr Enclave and hurr durr white knighting BoS.
>>265355943
Yes, NV sucked in its own way, so did Fo3.
Boy, that was hard.
>>265346298
I've played both on consoles and like 3 better.
Although I will admit on PC New Vegas is a really fun experience, especially with mods.
360 just kinda ruined it for me with all the glitches, insane load times, and really at the time what I thought was a lack of serious conflict in the world.
>>265356072
So you admit you've never played the game.
>>265356090
That's completely wrong.
>>265356096
Hurr durr muh factions. Only lorefags give a single fuck about the factions, the rest of us just wanted to kill shit and not listen to 1000 lines of dialogue from the same 4 voiceactors
>>265356000
This is all from memory:
Yes. The cloud was made of some kind of metal, and was not only highly toxic but actually bound the ghost people to their suits, which were designed to protect them from it. (which is why God says it smells of old world money)
So the ghost people are basically feral ghouls, but who were also stuck for years in these pseudo-hazmat suits unable to talk or eat, which understandably drove them more than a little bit insane.
>>265346298
I did a poll on this a few months ago. It was abut 75/25% split in favor of NV
>>265356308
Aren't they different from ghouls though? The way they get up and whatnot
>>265356242
lol
I bet they wanted to play faggot ass RPGs instead of FPS like Fallout, right?
>>265356242
Thanks for letting us all know you're retarded.
I bet your favorite director is Michael Bay too.
>>265355282
>free side and the strip had more atmosphere than FO3
Hahahahaha don't give me that shit. Freeside was literally just a few run down buildings with elvis impersonators. The "Strip" was so tiny it was hardly worth even mentioning in terms of atmosphere. It was very underwhelming to be honest.
The worst offender though was Primm. Oh my God Primm. What a useless town.
The Republic of Dave had 1000 times more "atmosphere" than most of the small towns on the outskirts of New Vegas. And that was just ONE of the many towns that had some wonky ass wasteland system to them
>>265356431
Yes, now that you mention it.
I think (again from memory, I might be wrong) that that's because the suits were like the trauma harnesses in OWB. I'll need to look it up, though.
Definitely New Vegas. I don't think 3 was bad like a lot of you guys do, though.
>>265355943
I think fucking everyone admits that Vegas was a disaster.
>>265356096
You're right, I should have stated what I meant more clearly. I was talking more about the geography of the world. In 3 you've got an entire city you can see from miles away, miles of ruined suburbs, as well as a less populated wilderness region with farms and churches scattered around. There always seemed like there was more to do.
With the exception of the much better vaults in NV, all you could really see was Vegas, and that was about it. Sure you had the occasional settlement and for the most part all the factions you met stayed true to the original games, but it did seem to have a lot less discovery involved.
>>265356197
they did, u ever see the notes on dead bodies and shit
>>265356483
>Shits on Primm
>Thinks The Republic of Dave is better and more "atmospheric"
You have to be one of the most incredible plebs I've ever seen on this board.
Please get that Bethesda cock out of your mouth, its depriving your brain of oxygen.
>>265350684
I disagree.
>>265356624
I really liked how much OWB and Dead Money are interconnected. Just wandering around reading all the terminals was fun as fuck
>>265356000
The Cloud is not a natural occurrence; it is an artificially created toxin produced in Big MT not long before the war. It was deployed in the Sierra Madre as part of a greater experiment, using the casino and the Villa as testing grounds - with Sinclair fully unaware of this. The hazmat suits worn by the ghost people were a follow up experiment to the Cloud, something many researchers in Big MT found disturbing. It is also pointed out in terminals at the Big MT research facilities that Sinclair was aware of the experimental state of the suits, but not of the Cloud.
So I think the Cloud was extremely hazardous to ordinary unprotected humans but if you shove them in the Hazmat suits they won't die from it but will eventually go insane and become the Ghost people. It preserves things unnaturally.
I don't know what the Think Tank were trying to achieve with it.
>>265356651
>notes on dead bodies
And that has exactly what to do with story relevance?
>>265350684
Your opinion is wrong
>>265356685
Primm did kind of suck though
>>265356745
Weren't they all?
>>265354603
I am the universe and I can confirm water exists...maybe.
>>265356745
All of the DLCs felt at least somewhat connected. I really liked the build up to Ulysses, even though Ulysses himself was pretty disappointing
>>265356745
It was pretty interesting how they tied OWB together with LR with Ulysses's character and journal entries too.
HH was probably the most standalone of the NV DLC but I don't remember if it was tied in with the other DLC on some degree.
>>265356916
They were all connected to LR because of Ulysses, but OWB and DM were very interconnected. HH is the most standalone out of the bunch. Nothing really connects it to any of the others except for LR
>>265356242
>being an illiterate 12 year old
>>265356970
I am nihilism. Nothing exist. None of this is even happening.
>>265350684
Lookout and Pitt were pretty good
Zeta, Broken Steel and Anchorage were rubbish. Too much shitty combat
>>265356854
It did, but not nearly as much as The Republic of Dave. It at least had some minor relevance to the world.
>>265357017
I'm pretty sure Joshua mentions Ulysses a few times in HH
>>265356976
The connection from OWB to DM was especially nice though. Reading about the dickery Big MT came up with was great
>>265356745
What's also interesting is how all the DLCs involve Ulysses in some way.
That's the good thing about the FNV DLCs, they're all linked. Together with the base game, they're a full, cohesive storyline, rather than just a load of random locations.
>>265357110
broken steel allowed u to continue after death, and u cant te me tht robot wasn't badass
>>265356685
OHOHOHOHO really nigger?
Name ONE good thing about Primm.
>some stupid inbred "deputy" that doesn't give a shit what happens to his entire family much less the town
>A single ultra buffed protectron
>Bunch of unnamed prospectors. Oh and they're huddled all together, no one actually fucking walks anywhere
>The casino you clear out is NEVER used again. It remains a ghost building
>all you fucking do there is find a replacement sheriff and get EDE
>Big Town
>Little Lamplight
>The Slaver place
>Canterbury Commons
>Tennpenny Towers
>The fucking OASIS
A TON of others I don't even want to bother mentioning
>inb4 there are no more. No fuck you
All of these are MINOR locations unlike primm which is actually required for the main questline. Each of them 1000 times more memorable. Goodsprings as well, never went back there.
The towns were useless.
>>265357297
Are you twelve?
>>265357087
>I am nihilism. Nothing exist.
That's more like solipsism, not nihilism.
Nihilism would state that nothing matters or has significance. Solipsism would state that nothing objectively exists outside my own personal experience, which is itself unreliable as well.
>>265357110
The absolute worst part about Point Lookout was the damage sponge swamp retards
It made exploring a pain because if you ran into one, say goodbye to a bunch of ammo and probably your health and some stimpaks because fuck they take forever to kill.
>>265357349
of course he fucking is
>>265357297
5/10
Made me chuckle a bit after reading it. Good show.
>Actually get one of the Dead Money hazmat suits
>This happens
>>265353217
Those are civilizations that were founded next to rivers. Same with every other successful civilization back then.
>modern Fallout
I bet you chucklefucks liked that Syndicate FPS too.
>>265357297
>we corrected a plot hole so obvious that even retards spotted it and bitched
Yea good show bethesda. The broken steel DLC fixed an ending that shouldnt have happened
>>265357556
>it doesn't have gloves
>no hood
that was a bit of a letdown
>>265357391
>>265357349
i can't enjoy a giant robot smashing things?
have fun with 20 inch dildos up ur tight asses
>>265357672
Nah but most here also liked DE: HR nostalgia dude
>>265357672
There's merit in the modern Fallouts. Syndicate was could have been been good if it didn't end in like 4 hours and have the most basic story ever
>>265357770
No Fun Allowed
>>265353794
#rekt
the worst thing that fo3 fans will do to people wondering about the games is just tell them to play both in a row, knowing full well that playing fo3 will burn anyone out so hard that they won't want to touch new vegas.
>>265357321
>Name ONE good thing about Primm
It had minor relevance to the factions and setting.
>>Big Town
>>Little Lamplight
>>The Slaver place
>>Canterbury Commons
>>Tennpenny Towers
>>The fucking OASIS
You are literally pants on head retarded. You clear some trivial, poorly written side quest in each area (except for LL which is actually a mandatory story location) and then never return.
>Each of them 1000 times more memorable.
If that's what you want to think. I'll not bother arguing with your obviously shit taste. I can't remember a single thing about just about any of those locations other than LL for being completely retarded and Tennpenny for having some of the most bullshit morality checks and retarded writing conceivable. If that's your criteria for being memorable then you're a pretty sad fuck.
>>265354881
>all supermutants are gen 2
fuck you
>>265357672
The Syndicate FPS is fun as fuck with friends. God-tier co-op
>>265357673
nv was kinda the same thing except without dying, u couldn't continue after it ended without loading
>>265357369
>The absolute worst part about Point Lookout was the damage sponge swamp retards
You could pretty much apply that statement to every enemy in FO3 considering how unbalanced its combat is.
>>265346298
Fallout 3 was a shit FPS.
Fallout NV was a shit FPS with decent writing.
Which do you think?
>>265357986
Best location was and always will be Jury Street Metro Station
>>265358046
>u couldn't continue after it ended
No shit retard. That's typically what it means to have an ending.
Fuck all ya guys fallout 2 kicked the ass of 3 and NV
>>265358098
Yeah, but it was at its worst at Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta
>>265358224
then wat r u complaining about
Gomorrah getting BTFO
>>265358129
>Best location was ... Metro Station
Try again.
>>265354517
Well hey there, Dr. Fantastic.Don't worry anon, I appreciated your meme.
>>265358334
I'm complaining about you being retarded. I thought it was fairly obvious from my post.
>>265358351
The outside of it, anon
>>265358434
thank you I'm surprised it wasn't noticed earlier
>>265358434
>This is now a meme
What?
>>265358310
I remember being far more frustrated by the appearance of albino radscorps and overpowered super mutant bullet sponges that required over a minute straight of backpedaling and unloading with a shotgun.
Fucking pussies play fallout 1 and 2 like a real man.
>>265353416
ayy lmao
>>265357986
>Forced relevance to the factions and settings is a good thing even if it's a completely fucking pointless way just to add in more enemies instead of a proper cave or dungeon.
>Wahh I don't wanna go on my own adventures they have no relevance to the endgame story!!!
Jesus Christ. The thing that made them memorable was how they were all so different from one another. No one location was ever the same. In attitude they were basically all like their own unmarked factions.
New vegas was fucking lazy and decided just to put "Prospector" or "wastelander" in every single location with the same exact dialogue on news shit that was happening in the Mojave.
>>265357770
>tight ass
>20 inch dildo
Nigga that ain't even possible. You can enjoy a giant robot smashing things, but when you combine that enjoyment with typing like an 12 year old girl it's fair to assume you are most likely 12.
>>265358046
No it wasnt. NV's ending made perfect sense. FO3 tried to have a dramatic conclusion that ended in the protagonist's death, but failed because the death was entirely unwarranted.
>>265358459
>being this big of a fag
>>265358757
>how they were all so different from one another.
>different from one another.
My goddamn sides are in orbit.
>>265346298
It's a tough question, neither one is perfect, and both have some things that are better than the other. New Vegas has the sweet Hardcore mode, and perks based on how many kills you make, but it's buggier than FO3. FONV also has companions... i think it comes down to which setting you like better, since they are so different aesthetically.
>>265346298
Still don't get how people can count the new Fallouts as anything more than an elder scrolls reskin, with shoe-horned superficial mechanics.
So, I guess my answer is Morrowind.
>>265357321
The Vicki and Vance casino does actually re-open after law is brought to Primm, in about 3 days I believe. And the prospectors move around the town after you clear it and bring law to the town.
>>265358757
To be fair, that only happened because Bethesda rushed the fuck out of Obsidian to get the game done. Had they been allowed the same amount of time that was spent on 3, New Vegas would be superior in every regard.
