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What would the tier list look like if all the characters had their canonically power levels?
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Samus and Kirby probably the highest tiers.

Samus blows up whole planets.

And Kirby just have to swallow you.
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>>263541561
Literal god almighty tier:
Shulk

God with limited powers tier:
Palutena

Everyone else tier:
Everyone else
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Little Mac
Kirby
Duck Hunt Dog
Captain Falcon
Everyone else
Villager
Wii Fit Trainer
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Palutena would be top tier, that's for sure.
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>>263542154

Ike killed a goddess before, he can do it again.
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Mario dies by simply touching the enemy.
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>Shulk
>Kirby
>Ike
>Rosalina
>Palutena
>Mario
>Sanic
>the rest
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>>263541561
Ask /co/ not /v/, /v/ doesn't know shit about how power levels work.
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Could any of these fighters beat Uchiha Madara?
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What is the extent of Rosalina's powers?
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>>263542038
Ahem, Rosy births galaxys. I think she goes in the god tier.

And kirby's fought his worlds equivalent of satan a few times I think.... What the fuck was dark matter?
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>>263541561

I'm pretty sure nothing could lay a hand on Shulk
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>>263542434
Babysitting stars
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Kirby would be top.

Particularly since he'd have a lot more powers from the fighters he copied instead of just one move.
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>>263542381
are you talking about regular Uchiha Madara?
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>>263542447
>Rosalina

Okay she can sit with Palutena.
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powerman

madara uchiha

everyone else
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>>263542447
>Rosy births galaxys

No, lumas do that. She just acts as a surrogate mother to them, which is unneeded since they got along just fine before her.
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>>263542434

She can create an entire universe
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Duck Hunt would be the lowest tier, being a dog that fetches dead birds
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Just because they have the title of god doesn't make them ridiculously overpowered.

Look at Samus. She's just a woman in armor and going by Super Metroid she can run and jump crazy fast while planting super bombs that blow everything up. She can shoot black holes and mini suns according to Echoes. That's some god tier shit.
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>>263541561
Does Sonic get the chaos emeralds?

If not Kirby and Palutena are God tier no doubt.
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>>263542627
Megaman does that too, and is inherently more powerful.
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>No Ness
But he killed evil and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>263542572

Shulk is merely a god who was created by a scientist who in turn was only god thanks to some AI.
Rosalina and Palutena are actual gods.
And Ike killed a god
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Olimar is the bottom, because niggas the size of a quarter. Can't do shiiiiet
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>>263542647
>madara uchiha
>Watching Naruto
>Knowing anything about Naruto beyond the title.

ISHYGDDT
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>>263542796

Megaman can only copy abilities of other robots and only after he defeated them
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>>263542447

I don't get people who equate the power of creation with power of destruction.
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Robin would be commanding all other FE characters so they'd win by outnumbering everyone.
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>>263542886
With the help of a god.
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>>263542796
Mega Man can only copy the powers of robots
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>>263541561
Depends on how cartoon physics are worked into this.
Donkey Kong casually punched the fucking moon out of orbit.
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>>263542796
Not this particular Megaman.
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>>263542886
>Shulk is merely a god who was created by a scientist who in turn was only god thanks to some AI.

But that act rewrote the entire structure of the universe, Shulk now maintains the universe itself.
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>>263542996
>not knowing the ebin Madara may-may
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>Everyone forgetting that Mr.Game and Watch is immortal, and cannot die.
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>>263541862
C. Falcon blows up galaxies.
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>>263542038
>Muh Nado above a literal goddess, the mother of the stars, and Kirby
How? I have never played Xeno-anything. Someone care to spoil it for me?
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>>263542996
By complaining, aren't you admitting to knowing about Naruto?
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>>263543124

shhh
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I get why Kirby can be considered super strong, but I find it hard to believe considering his size. His canon size is a few inches high and he wouldn't be able to swallow most of the other characters, I haven't played TD yet but I doubt Supernova would do much to change that.
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>>263543060
It's a lost opportunity that he doesn't copy opponents' moves like Kirby upon killing them.
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>>263542796
>inherently more powerful.
The guy straight up disappears a time during or after X gets built. And Mega only gets one move from every boss while Kirby can get plenty..

And the Pink Puff is eternal.
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Chosen Undead would kick all their asses
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>>263543208

maybe
Or it's just some sort of virtual computer world, we don't know
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>>263542939
Hoards of mindless army ants can fuck people up. Imagine what a legion of Pikmin controlled by an intelligent leader could do.
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>>263542631
I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Madara. I’m talking about Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan and with rikidou techniques, his Gunbai, a Perfect Susano’o and control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he also has mokuton kekkei genkai and yin-yang release nin
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>>263543413
Kirby can only have 1 power set.
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>>263542674
No she can't. If you're referring to the ending of Galaxy it was a shit ton of Lumas sacrificing themselves that recreated the universe.
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>>263541862

Samus doesn't blow up planets, she just has a habit of triggering self-destruct mechanisms.

Though in Prime 3 she's more or less a walking nuke powered by a Lovecraftian god.
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>>263543549

No he can have multiple power sets
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>>263543509
100 Pikmin. Not much
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>>263542447
>Ahem, Rosy births galaxys. I think she goes in the god tier.
No, she just runs the daycare for baby stars. Which I still find pretty fucked up.

>sentient being blows up to become an object
Though since Mario is a kids' series it probably has something with nature/planets having a spirit or some shit.
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>>263543280
Shulk was dead all along and his body was contained a god. He got better and killed god thus becoming god Gave it all up to live and restored the world to its natural state and lived in peace with his waifu
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>Shulk (Plot shielding powers)
>Paluenta and Rosalina (as Gods)
>Kirby (Killed a God)
>Samus (Being a person trained in space to do awesome shit.)
>Mario (Saved the Galaxy)
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>>263543280

He kills God and then becomes God for ten minutes before creating a world with no gods.
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>Lord of the Universe Tier:
Shulk

>God Tier:
Palutena
Kirby
Pit
Dark Pit
Robin
Ganondorf

>Top Tier
Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Sonic
Rosalina
Link
Toon Link
Ike
Samus
Mega Man

>High Tier
Marth
Lucario
Charizard
Greninja
Zelda
Ness
Meta-Knight
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King Dedede

>Mid Tier
Zero Suit Samus
Captain Falcon
Peach
Fox
Falco
Little Mac
Lucina
Bowser Jr
Pikachu
Yoshi

>Low Tier
Jigglypuff
Pac-Man

>Bottom Tier
Wii Fit Trainer
Villager
Duck Hunt
Mr. Game and Watch

>YOU. ARE. A TOY tier
ROB
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>>263543681
Since when
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>>263543806

Still has the Monado III and Alvis will do whatever he says
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>>263543509
"canonically [sic] power levels" would assume canon heights, too. they're still just ants and he can only have 100 of them
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>>263543857
>Actually exists Tier
ROB

>Videogame Character Tier
Everyone else
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>>263543446
>involving Dark Souls in a non-Dark Souls thread
>not even being funny with it
>being 13 on 4chan
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>>263543280
Science dudes do science shit.
Entire universe gets destroyed in an experiment.
Two people became gods, created a new universe.
God 1 kills God 2.
Shulk develops god powers on his own and kills God 1 in his own micro universe.
Universe destroyed again.
Shulk now one true God and also owns the power the other two gods wielded.
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Mega Man would be dead fucking last on account of being cancelled at any notice.
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Mewtwo could literally squish everything's brain with his psychic powers.
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>>263543124

Since Ike has the blue flames now in smash it appears that he has Yune's power with him.
Also we're obviously talking about all characters at their max.
He also only needed Yune for the finishing blow, but he fought Ashera as a regular human before that. Just like that legendary hero whatshername
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>>263543564

Prove he couldn't. Remind you he has invincibility frames, seeking magic and is invisible until he moves
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Mario characters are severely outmatched. Touching one goomba can kill them without a mushroom.
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>>263543919
Kirby 64
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>>263542038
Shulk couldn't beat Sonic and I challenge you to disprove me.

He has precognition. His precognition does not happen in slow motion.

It doesn't matter if you see a blue blur going mach 5 pass by three seconds before it happens.

If that's the case, Sonic is likely already past you.
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>>263544150
Mewtwo didn't get an invite
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>>263544150
Greninja could kick Mewtwo's ass, and you know it.
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>>263543265
>implying immortality=power
also he is not immortal, he is just an object with sentience. he neither lives or dies
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>>263543919
kirby could stockpile abilities in milky way wishes and squeak squad
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>>263543331
It wouldn't. Kirby is weak shit. The only reason he could crack pop star in half in the minigame is because it's literally made of candy. I fucking love Kirby games, one of my absolute favorite Nintendo series.

Power levels are something like

Literal God Almighty
>Shulk

Ascended god-tier
>Ness
>Palutena
>Rosalina

God tier
>Robin
>Ganondorf

God-killer tier
>Samus
>Ike
>Link
>Marth

Everybody that isn't less than a foot tall
>Everybody that isn't less than a foot tall

Literally where are they
>Kirby
>Olimar
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>>263543564

We've got a memer on our hands
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>>263543857
>Mr. G&W this low even though he powered the entirety of the Subspace army
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>>263544150
Mewtwo can't even defeat a pink fetus
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Kirby is indestructible and Ness has the power of friendship. Your godesses a shit.
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>Mewtwo
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>>263544196
You're combining power A and B to make C, can you use anything other than C?
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>>263544256
His precognition also shows him events days even months in advance.
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>>263544301
Greninja wouldnt even be able to move.
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>>263543857

>Captain Falcon
>mid tier

WATASHI WA SHINEN
SHINENZU
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>>263543857
>ganondorf over link

come on, now
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>>263542647
> Powerman thinking /v/ didn't know how to enjoy games
When will /co/ ever fix this simple mistake? Also here's the better version.
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>>263544570
Greninja is immune
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>>263544570
Greninja is immune to any shitty psychic attack Mewtwo can through at it.
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>>263544343
He is data that is outside of a computer system, thus making him indestructible and immortal. He will eternally throw sausages until the end of space and time if he must.
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>>263544558
And that helps in the event of a situation he lacks the speed to react to how?

He can't swing his sword that fast, or see that fast when the fight actually occurs.
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>>263544676
FUCK I FORGOT IT. Oh well here it is.
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Kirby would be the most powerful, Ike would be second
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>>263544150
>canon
>anime spin-off

pick one
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Kibry
Palutena
Samus
Rosalina

Everyone Else
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>>263544174
Mario could jump on him and kill him.

Megaman could just shoot him.

Ike one hands swords that the CU needs two hands and a lot of windup to use, could go toe to toe with a god before a god imbued him with power, can dodge like it ain't nobody's business and can all but fly.

Samus could obliterate him without getting scratched.

Kirby could just eat him.

Ganondorf could just posses him and even if he couldn't he would literally be unkillable to the CU. Nothing the CU could do would leave a scratch on Ganondorf.

All these characters have invincibility frames too, so I don't know why you'd think that'd be something the CU would have over them. Nigga can't even keep his shield up, even Link has more stamina than the CU.
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>>263544802
>monado speed
???
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I've never played a mother game, spoil it and tell me why Ness is so strong, and I guess how lucas would fare on this list as well.
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>>263542315
>mario
this : >>263542293
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>>263544721
>>263544728
Hmm..you forget that he can just use thunder wave. Also he could just use any fighting move and 1hko that frog as Mewtwo Y.
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>>263545056
>upwards of mach 5
???
Show me evidence of Shulk moving that fast in gameplay. Like, both running and reactionary speed that rivals Sonic.
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>>263542796
When's the last time Megaman punched a planet in half?

Never? Alright then.
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>God-killer tier below God tier
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>>263545242
>mach 5
THIS MAN out runs sonic.
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>>263545125
giygas was an equivalent of a god and ness killed him albeit by using muh friendship and muh prayers but he still did it lucas a shit
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>>263543278
actually the only time the punch has ever been used outside of FZero games and Smash is the anime...and the explosion was a generator
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>>263543857
>forgot my main man olimar
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>>263544802

Shulk can literally increase his speed with the Monado.
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>>263545125
he is a small child that can kill Omniscient-Malicious-deities with the powers of his mind
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>>263545242
He wouldn't need to, he can disable Sonic's speed based attacks altogether. Mind you I'm just talking about pre-God Shulk.
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>Kirby swallows Link/Robin/any other god-killers
>Spits them out into an abyss or swallows them if they can fly
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>>263545184
Beat me to it.
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>>263545441

what is that man's name?

and whats in this envelope?
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>>263544371
Play TD, then you'll understand Kirby is literally a walking black hole
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Ganon is the strongest. Only the Master Sword can hurt him and since Link is the chosen hero, he is the strongest hero of Nintendo.
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>>263543857

Buzz flew at the end of Toy Story
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>>263545507
weakest character in smash only character he could beat is duck hunt dog with his actual game moveset
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>>263545242

He moves from Saturn to Earth through space in a few minutes.
Figure how fast he was
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Reminder that Ganondorf's only weaknesses are the Master Sword and Light Arrows, both of which can pretty much only be wielded by Link and Zelda. So basically Ganon can defeat everyone on the roster, except he's Link and Zelda's bitch.
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>>263545626
Not Ridley's invite to smash 4
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>>263543537
Yes, I understand some of those words
weeb
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>>263545441
No he doesn't.
That's for the purpose of extending gameplay.

Mario takes double damage when he loses his hat and yet the hat does nothing.

There are billions of examples like this in games and if I played Xenoblade I'd name dozens.

Also if you spin dash you outspeed him in the scene you're talking about.

>>263545551
Only if he can do whatever he has to do before Sonic can touch him.

Mind you Sonic could just teleport him into the Sun.

CHAOS CONTROL

>>263545532
see ^
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Falcon would be pretty high on the tier list, right?
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>>263545186
Protean Greninja wouldn't even get hit by the fighting move.
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Dedede can spawn Gordo.

Gordo is indestructible.
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>>263545626
is it "Cory in the House" for Gameboy Advance?
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>>263545550

He actually needed a robot body for it and it was more of an abortion in preventing Gigyas from ever being born than actually defeating Gigyas himself
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>>263543395

That's a lot of work. I'm sure they considered it.
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Clearly we have some winners and this thread has direction, ala Shulk, Ness, Palutena, Ike, etc.

BUT, who is the canonly WEAKEST character in SSB4?
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>>263545720
>Reminder that Ganondorf's only weaknesses are the Master Sword and Light Arrows

No, those are his only weaknesses within the Zelda canon where they only have medieval shit at their disposal.
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>>263545720
>>263545664
>only the master sword can hurt Ganondorf
>kill him with Megaton Hammer or Biggoron Sword
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>>263545720
Kirby would wreck Ganon upside down and inside out. Not even joking.
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>>263543857
I could feasibly see Ness in Top Tier with his relatively bullshit psychic powers and I think Luigi and Bowser could probably fall by one tier as well.
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>>263546010
little mac
or olimar
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>>263545720
He has a piece of the power of a couple gods. There are literal gods on the roster. I don't think that you're right.
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>>263545831
>Mind you Sonic could just teleport him into the Sun.

which he would predict with a vision and react accordingly
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>>263545631
I did. He still swallows nothing larger than the screen.
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>>263545843

>No maskless falcon in Smash bros.

Thanks for the reminder.
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>>263546010
Duck hunt dog, he's literally my mom's dog put into a game
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>>263545831
Sonic isn't that fast, you're thinking about the Flash anon.
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>>263546032
In OoT you cannot deliver the final blow to Ganon without using the Master Sword. You can injure him all you like, but he will not die.
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>>263545186
Greninja can switch his type on the fly before a fighting type move could come close to him.

But yeah, I'm sure Mewtwo could hit him with a thunder wave before getting his ass handed to him in the same turn.
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>>263546010
the Villager is literally a villager
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This thread is stupid. Characters with advanced technology or god-like powers at their disposal are at an advantage.
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Samus
Rosalina
Palutana
Kirby
Shulk
Would be the topest of the tiers.

Olimar
Rob
Mr. Game and Watch
Luigi
Peach
And Charizard
Would be at the bottom.
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He swallows the fucking UI.
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>>263545896

no, its FROM THE SHOW
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>>263546010
Jigglypuff or Olimar probably. Puff has really low bases, and Olimar is tiny.
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>>263544371
Yeah, I'm not too sure whether or not I'd consider anyone who could rip the surface of Chile off of South America very strong because it's literally made out of dirt.
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>>263546207
Master Sword is shit though, you don't even need it to kill Ganon.
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>>263546207
That's all you need to do anyway
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>>263546097
he would react to getting teleported
what ability exactly does he have to prevent that

>>263546180
I'm definitely not thinking of The Flash. Sonic can do all these things. And got help you if he has 50 rings on him. Then the only thing that he can be killed by is having his body crushed.
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>>263546010
Olimar or R.O.B, the pikmin could probably wear it down after a few weeks.
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>>263546067

Nigga, Wii Fit Trainer is leagues weaker than Little Mac.
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>>263546032
They can damage him, but you'll notice that it's impossible to actually get the final hit in without having the Master Sword equipped.

Same thing in TP; you need the Master Sword equipped instead of Ordon, or else he will never stop getting up.
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Well if we're going by the fact that megaman seems to retain all the powers of every robot master he's ever fought(and without energy drain) in his smash intro, he basically controls space/time among many ridiculous powers.

Even without that, his base power is pretty retarded, and nowhere near displayed correctly in the game(pellets only go 3 feet you fucking serious sakurai?). He should've been a walking arsenal who's weakness was his lack of mobility.
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>>263542782
Eggman has stopped and drained Sonic from his Super Form once. Palutena could probably do it too with her god powers.
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>>263544150
Same could be said of Ness, but unlike Mewtwo he's in Smash 4.
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>>263546010
Villager or Duck Hunt Dog
An ordinary dog is probably worse than an ordinary human, but villager has an axe
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>>263545720

That's as retarded as saying that only the specific molecular structure of a Waddle Dee and other dreamland creatures can hurt Kirby.
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>>263546413

Or drowning
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>>263542996
Nigga you just went roundabout with your own logic and lost. The only winning move was not to post.
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>>263544750
he is merely a representation of a 2d universe. he is no different than a moving painting
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>>263546281
I love how his face goes angry. It's just absolutely adorable.
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>>263546010

ROB
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>>263543857
Add some of the removed characters to the list. I wanna see where Snake ranks
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>>263545906
Still
it was his mind within a robot body vs a entity of unspeakable evil influence and power
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>>263546413
But Mario is faster than Sonic even.
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>>263546447
I guess that's fair. If I said Little Mac is weakest I'd have to put Donkey Kong even lower.

>>263546508
This isn't X, you can't bullshit us.
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>>263546684
he is either top tier or near bottom tier if he has octo camo or the stealth suit from mgs1
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>>263546607
Kirby doesn't actually get hurt, he just gets unmotivated.
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>>263546010
Olimar if you don't count ROB as a character. Even if Olimar was normal sized, he'd be the weakest.
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>>263546763
No he isn't. That video is the most biased shit I've ever seen in my life.

I can make Sonic run faster than that in Unleashed and I am by NO means the best Unleashed player.
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>>263546783
DK went easy on Mac, he can punch the moon out of orbit.
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>>263546413
>what ability exactly does he have to prevent that

Monado Cyclone and toppling Sonic before he even reaches him
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>>263543857
>Shulk

how
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>>263546974
And obviously Mac can tank that shit.
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>>263546968
Lol hokay anon, lets just ignore actual gameplay in favor of your headcanon.
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Red pill:

Mario is far, far faster than Sonic.
Mario easily outruns bullets and cannonballs. This is because Mario moves so fast that every Mario game has to be played in slow-motion.

Sonic on the other hand? Well, everyone is lying to him. He really is just a regular hedgehog under a delusion of being fast, so everyone plays along with his fantasy as to not hurt his feelings and slows down their pace. Only Eggman demonstrates how easily he can outrun Sonic in every game. Eggman actually wants Sonic to come to terms with his slowness. He is the true hero.
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>>263546097
How? I don't recall Shulk having the power to teleport.
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>>263544431

He said canon power levels

The subspace emissary, or smash for that matter, is not canon
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>>263544615
FALCON
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>>263547120
People think defeating/becoming the god of a specific universe is impressive when there are other gods on the roster.
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>>263546010
Olimar: A midget with the ability to order his minions to attack people. Power in numbers he could overpower some weaklings

Duck Hunt: A duck swatting around at people, and a dog goes for the jugular, could kill, but difficult

Villager: A human with an axe and a few other tools

ROB: A fucking inanimate toy
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>>263546524
Didn't Knuckles punch him out of it at the beginning of Sonic 3? And then he took the chaos emeralds and chuckled
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>>263546413
Oh yeah, Sonic wouldn't be able to use super form at all thanks to purge, no chaos control, sorry.
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>all these people putting Kirby in top tier
If he was the same size as the rest of the cast, maybe. Anyone taller than 3.5 feet would be too large to inhale and could just step on him. Seriously, he's like 5 cm tall.
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>>263545843
Falcon is just a hard counter to Black shadow, and the explosion is caused by a reactor melting down, not the Falcon Punch.
Anime Falcon is still best Falcon
Only the last three episodes of Falcon Legend are worth watching.
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>>263547375

thats true. and its canon
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I personally vote Sakurai to be a playable character
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>>263547095
i don't understand how a tornado prevents you from getting teleported
and sonic doesn't have to be anywhere near melee range to teleport you

>>263547234
they show sonic's mph when you pass checkpoints in unleashed
this is actual gameplay that shows base sonic going much, much faster than what the video you're citing states

>>263547424
he doesn't need emeralds to use chaos control
and i'm pretty sure shulk isn't as psychic as you guys are making him out to be
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>>263547259
>canon sonic is autistic
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>Lord of the Universe Tier:
Shulk
Kirby

>God Tier:
Palutena
Robin

>Top Tier
Little Mac
Sonic
Rosalina
Ike
Samus
Mega Man

>High Tier
Marth
Link
Toon Link
Mario
Bowser
Lucario
Charizard
Greninja
Zelda
Ness
Meta-Knight
Donkey Kong
King Dedede

>Mid Tier
Zero Suit Samus
Captain Falcon
Peach
Fox
Luigi
Falco
Lucina
Bowser Jr
Pikachu
Yoshi

>Low Tier
Jigglypuff
Pac-Man
Pit
Dark Pit
(Pit has no powers in a true free for all where Palutena is against him)
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Monado Kirby is the strongest.
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>>263546425
Olimar is the size of a human thumb, so I'm afraid he doesn't have much of a chance.
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>>263546892
Oh yeah. He's like an inch tall or some shit, right? Even with an entire Pikmin army he'd be weakest.

Seriously, is anyone canonically weaker than Olimar, with or without Pikmin?
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>>263546467

You will also notice that Little Mac has never been KO'd by something other than a boxing glove. That means if Ganondorf doesn't have boxing gloves, he literally cannot defeat Little Mac.

It's canon, play his games. You need boxing gloves to KO Little Mac or it won't work.
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>>263547424
You don't need to be in Super form to Chaos Control
Fuck you don't even need a real chaos emerald
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>>263547375
Oh right, that too.

>>263547559
Eggman sucking the super form is canon too, as it was in Unleashed.
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>>263547591
>and i'm pretty sure shulk isn't as psychic as you guys are making him out to be
Except he literally is, as demonstrated through both gameplay and cutscenes. Later Shulk doesn't even have visions, he's just constantly aware of the future.
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>>263547261

He'd react before getting ported.
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Everyone says Olimar is the weakest, but if we're going by canonical powers wouldn't he be pretty good?
He can punch anything to death with enough time and is immune to everything if he just lays down.
Right?
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>>263546279
>Charizard at the bottom
Nigga, he can melt any material by breathing on it. Check the Emerald Version Pokedex.
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>>263547613
Dark Pit doesn't have Palutena backing him up though, yet he's as strong as Pit with Palutena's powers.
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>>263547870

We established that the pokedex is written by stupid kids with overactive imaginations years ago.
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>>263541561
I would put Kirby in God-tier easy.

Simply because no matter who you are, how big you are, how powerful you are, how many minions you have at your disposal, if you piss off Kirby even slightly he will hunt you down until the end of the universe just to slap your shit.
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Kirby is small, no matter how strong his power is, he can't get anyone that much larger than him to fit in his mouth, so he couldn't absorb them. He'd be squished easily.
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>putting anybody above a Mario, Luigi, DK, Bowser and Wario
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LITERALLY GOD TIER
Palutena

ALMIGHTY TIER
Meta Knight

FUCKING STRONG TIER
Marth
Ike
Robin
Lucina
Shulk
Ganondorf
Link/Toon Link
Charizard
Lucario
Greninja
Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Kirby
Mega Man
Bowser
Wario
Little Mac
Donkey Kong

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GUY THIS STRONG THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
Mario
Luigi
Yoshi
Sonic

STRONGY
Diddy Kong
Fox
Falco
Wii Fit Trainer
Pit
Dark Pit

AVERAGE
Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Dedede
Zelda/Sheik
Bowser Jr.

THEI NEVER FOUGHT A SINGLE FUCKING BATTLE THEIR WHOLE LIFE
Peach
Rosalina
Captain Falcon
Pikmin
Villager
Pac-Man
Mr. Game and Watch
Duck Hunt
R.O.B.
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>>263548052
>Peach
>Never fought
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>>263547974
>not Professors with years of experience in a scientific area of study

Kids merely provide some of the data
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>>263547823
and that still doesn't help you if you can't react to something that is faster than you can possibly react to

nigger plenty of characters that are constantly aware of the future get their shit pushed in

>>263548052
>swordsmen above Sonic, Mario, and people with spaceships
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>>263547613
Why is little mac so high? All he does is punch. Ness, charizard, pikachu, lucario, bowser, and link off the top of my head could best him easily
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>>263548052

Peach is canonically a powerful witch that can stop the Koopa Clan's black magic.

Bowser must just know her kryptonite or something
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>>263547998
See>>263546281
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>>263543073
Each can undo the other. It's similar to the debate between limitless power and limitless defense.
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>>263547837
He can punch tiny bugs to death given enough time. Otherwise I'm pretty sure he'd lose to a foot.
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>>263548201
>and that still doesn't help you if you can't react to something that is faster than you can possibly react to
see
>>263547375

Sonic is slow as shit in a fistfight.
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>>263547329
>Palutena
Did not restart the universe

>Shulk
Restarted the universe
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>>263546783
I'd argue that X is actually weaker than megaman. The reason X is special is because his conscience and all them armor upgrades.

The robot master abilities were definitely more powerful than any reploids. Reploids are just shitty mock versions of X gone wrong.
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ITT: People who didn't play Xenoblade chronicles
Shulk literally created the universe, he can stop time and create matter at will. The other gods in Smash pale in comparison
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>>263548330
That's a fallacy, someone making a new city doesn't stop the first one having been destroyed.
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>>263548290
He can swallow a small bar? Is that supposed to prove your point?
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>>263548290
oh ok
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>>263548469

He also gave up his godhood within ten minutes of getting it you stupid fuck.
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>>263548435
Not to mention Palutena is a Greek-themed goddess, so she only has power over limited areas. She has no control over the dead whatsoever like Hades would.
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>>263548379
but what if he lays down and only gets up when he sees an opportunity to strike?
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>>263548469
That's only because of the sword. Without it, he's a useless piece of trash.

>couldn't save his waifu and lets her get killed in front of his eyes
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>>263548538
You think the health bar exists in that plane of reality?
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>>263548679
>>couldn't save his waifu and lets her get killed in front of his eyes
Nah, he fixes that too.
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>>263547690
The Old Man in Zelda 1 says you need to get the Silver Arrows to defeat Ganon.

The Fairy Queen in LTTP says the Silver Arrows she gives you are the tool you need to defeat Ganondorf.

In WW, after going through the first 3 dungeons only to get the Master Sword, you go up to Forsaken Fortress and the man himself tells you he can only be harmed by a weapon glowing with the power to repel evil.

It's pretty fucking canon that only the Master Sword and Silver/Light arrows can do the job.
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>>263548469

I played it, but it's a long as fuck boring offline MMO grindfest that wasn't really worth the 40 hours I put in.
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>>263548052
Where's Ness? Too top to even be seen on the top of that list tier?
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>>263548052
>THEY NEVER FOUGHT A SINGLE FUCKING BATTLE THEIR WHOLE LIFE
>Captain Falcon

Someone should read the comic.
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>>263548870

>40 hours
>didn't even get Dunban
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>>263548665
Then he'll get smooshed. Or thrown. Or attacked by the myriad of weapons the rest of the cast has. Or he'll crack his helmet and suffocate to death. Or his Pikmin will discover the concept of liberty and riot.
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>>263549039
>comic
>canon

Understood.
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>>263549120
>He probably didn't even reach Mechonis.
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>ETERNAL GOD TIER
Monado Kirby
>GOD TIER
Shulk
Kirby
>EVERYTHING ELSE TIER
the rest
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>>263546010
Anyone who says anything other than ROB is retarded. Because ROB is the only one that actually exists.
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>>263548052
Pretty sure Pit ranks as more powerful than Link; at the very least, the combat in his game was much more intense than that in the Zelda series, and he had much more options at his disposal.

Link rides on the fact he's the hero of legend and most things he fights are the guardians of temples designed to be overcame by shit he already found.
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>>263545859
>>263546212
>>263544721
>>263544728

252 Atk Life Orb Greninja Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mewtwo: 151-179 (42.6 - 50.5%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO

Even a max attack Greninja using its only viable option to outspeed Mewtwo (this is with both having max speed, Mewtwo has 394 and Greninja has 377) can't get a fucking guaranteed 2HKO.

252 SpA Mewtwo Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Greninja: 147-174 (51.3 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Mewtwo gets it against Greninja even if he used Shadow Sneak to be Ghost type (shown here). Mewtwo wins.
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>>263549337
Nah, I can throw ROB at an N64 and the console would still be alright but ROB would probably break.
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>>263549120

I did get Dunban. Shulk is fucking worthless though. Dunban/Reyn/Sharla 4 lyfe.
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>>263547553

Douglas is a better racer then Andy though.
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>>263548831

Oh right, so "only" Palutena, Pit, Kirby, Shulk and every single Fire Emblem character would wreck his shit.

And I'm going to go ahead and say that Samus's reality-erasing cannon from Prime 2 wouldn't care one bit about Ganon's dark magicks.
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>>263548052
>Captain Falcon
>A bounty hunter
>Never fought a single battle
You are retarded.
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>>263548052
Captain Falcon is a bounty hunter when he's not racing. He belongs with or at least one below Samus.
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>>263549243
The comic that came in the manual of the game? Yes, it's canon, it shows the bounty-hunter moments of Captain Falcon.
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>>263546010
Olimar can be squashed by anyone on the roster

Jigglypuff is essentially a domestic animal

Villager is an average person, unless being able to consistently chop trees down in 3 swings and dig 3ft deep holes with one motion is an indicator of superhuman strength

WFT is a normal human. In "fit" shape but not "good" shape like Little Mac

Duck Hunt is just an average dog with extra paw dexterity (he can clench ducks inside a fist).

ROB is a lifeless piece of plastic.

I'd say Olimar. Even ROB could beat him if a strong enough gust caused him to fall on Olimar
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>>263549659
>Sharla

Top kek
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>>263549526
My point exactly.
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