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>Bethesda
>geniuses
>>262787509
>giving it their all
But wasn't there supposed to be more Legion stuff?
>bethesda
>geniuses
>geniuses
>>262787509
>2chan
NV>FO3
>>262787509
>bethesda
>geniuses
AYYYY
>>262788105
What is that forum
I'm going to create an account just to tell him how much of a pleb he is.
>>262787702
They ran out of time. Bethesda decided on their dev time. 18 months, from the beginning.
>>262788105
So much wrong.
>>262787986
>Genius
>a bunch of underpaid wage slaves cutting corners: FO3
>a bunch of starving artists constrained by time: FO: NV
>>262788105
>The people who made Fallout are piggybacking off of the ideas and worlds made by the people who made Fallout
>>262787509
That jap is fucking dumb
It's more like
>A work made by simple people with a lot of money backing them = Fallout 3
>A work made by geniuses without the money to fund their work = Fallout New Vegas
>>262789012
Underrated post.
>the Japanese will never experience the superior FO and FO2
>>262789012
seems pretty spot on
>>262787509
Who cares about what some stupid gook has to say anyway?
Bethesda make games that they know are going to sell to large audiences.
Obsidian make games that people who like video games and RPG's would enjoy.
>>262787509
Japanese people don't know shit 'bout WRPGs, what a shocking revelation.
>>262789319
It's be 2hard4japs
They'd after the save because there's no linear narrative to hold their hand through it.
>>262789693
>They'd after the save
How the fuck did I manage that, I meant "Quit after the cave"
>>262789693
>They'd after the save
they would do what? i need to know
>>262789445
>Japan
>South East Asia
I'll admit Fallout 3 DLC > fallout NV DLC
New Vegas outshines fallout 3 in every other way
>>262790320
OWB > Any Fallout 3 DLC
Oblivion with guns
vs
Mediocre attempt at a proper Fallout game on a trashy, broken engine
>>262790089
fear and loathing in new vegas playthrough
>get addicted to every drugs
>use whenever your high is over
>reside in casino hotels as much as you can
>>262788951
rage now
>>262790664
Too bad drugs are super watered-down compared to Fallout 1 and 2
Also getting off addiction is stupidly easy.
>>262790532
>penis jokes
>enemy hyper spawns
It was almost worth it for stealth suit wiafu
Lonesome Road was atmospheric as fuck, I wish the base game was more like that. The visual design of the map and environment was cool and pretty as hell too.
>>262790643
>Mediocre
give obsidian some credit, for the time they had and their inexperience with the engine it was great
>>262791262
Ulysses could have been a more coherent and well developed character, but having him try to tackle eighteen themes at once had the end result of DABEAR DABULL DABEAR DABULL rather than anything particularly deep.
>>262790863
i agree with everything there, but i still enjoy the game.
>>262790863
music was far from 'hollywood action soundtrack'
the delusional fucks on this board never cease to amaze me
"but it's not more than 10 years old and isn't dark souls!" shut the fuck up
>>262791668
That, and fucking blaming me for everything.
As a fucking player I can't feel bad for it because either I'm a gigantic asshole dickbag already or have the capacity to understand I had no control of the character at that point.
"Shaping history" my ass. It ain't shaping jack shit if I didn't actually have a part in it.
>>262788105
>there are still people who don't know that Obsidian is basically Black Isle
This is why you're not a "hardcore gamer"
>>262790320
>FO3 DLC
>good
ALIENS ARE REAL GUYS. CHINA IS GLOWING GREEN GET IT? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>262793334
Post successful!
>>262788105
>there are people who would consider KotOR 1 superior to KotOR 2 because le piggybacks
>>262787509
But the people behind New Vegas clearly had a better understanding not only of the setting but of characterization, mechanics and choice and consequence. Silly nip.
>>262789012
Correct
>>262793334
Well The Pitt was pretty good, although the moral choice at the end was one of the worst I have ever seen in any game.
>>262793761
We'll see about that. Did you make the correct choice? I'll spoiler the correct one, you go ahead and think about the right one then check yourself. We'll see how simple it was.Ashur did nothing wrong and The Pitt had stupidly easy morality to figure out for anybody with a hint of foresight
>>262787509
Wild Card = For the Republic > Veni Vidi Vici >>> The House Always Wins
>>262788105
>there are people who don't even know who Black Isle is
Do all of these games just sell on the fact that they're open world games?
Jesus Christ
>>262793761
The Pitt, yes.
but remember
>Anchorage was one long fucking corridor with collectible boxes
>Zeta was a pile of shit no matter how you look at it
>Point Lookout was asshole vs. asshole, asshole no matter who you support (though that cthulu plot was good)
>Broken Steel was literally Mass Effect 3
>>262794181New Coke is the better Coke, fuck all of you nostalgia faggots.
A work made by many monkeys with computers given 7 years
A work made by fewer, slightly smarter monkeys with computers and typewriters in 1 year
>>262788105
This post actually angers me
>>262794183
>There are people who actually sided with House
Is this the "shit 2chan says" thread?
>>262789012
>a bunch of underpaid wage slaves cutting corners: FO3
>a bunch of starving artists who can't quite hit a homerun but are also constrained by time: FO: NV
>>262794681
>file name
yea, we're totally not being invaded
>>262794352
High fructose corn syrup is not better than sugar. New coke is ass.
Look >>>/mlp/19674301
>>262794352
But New Coke was intentionally made to be awful
>>262794862
Except Classic Coke also uses that if you're in the great great USA.
>>262794862
>tfw you have to go out of the way to find imported mexican coke just to find a coke with actual sugar
I miss living overseas.
>FO3 feels like a post-apocalyptic wasteland
HOLY FUCK
POST APOCALYPTIC AND WASTELAND DON'T FUCKING GO TOGETHER
POST APOCALYPTIC MEANS AFTER THE FUCKING APOCALYPSE
FO3 LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING MID-APOCALYPSE
NEW VEGAS IS GODDAMN POST APOCALYPTIC HOLY SHIT
>>262794681I posted that because I wanted somebody to justify siding with House
>>262791668
>>262793021
I want to play Lonesome Road now, and neither of you spoiled anything .. quality posts
Pretty accurate.Too bad their all wasn't good enough
>>262794905
New Vegas totally fucked up the Rep system, IMHO.
>>262788525
I guessthe game was rigged from the start
>>262793959
the problem is thatthe game wants you to think that Ashur was the villian.
>>262788105
oh this fucker. this fucker.
FO3 wouldn't be present had the guys in Obsidian actually created the goddamn game in the first place.
>>262795141
but he is the best choice
>>262787509
But Obsidian was the one putting in as much effort as they could ever since before they even WERE Obsidian!
They're like BioWare, except they get to bend over to every single publisher they've ever worked for.
>>262787509
>Japs in charge of taste
Nothing to see here.
>>262795659
Please explain
>>262787509
Flip it around and I'll agree
Fallout 3: A work made by average people cutting corners.
Fallout: New Vegas: A work made by geniuses giving it their all in a limited amount of time.
>>262794905
What the fuck dude
>Mfw people who think Yes Man route is better than House
They're the same fucking route but with you ending as the leader instead of House you faggots.
NCR > Roman wannabes.
>>262788380
That's a neogaf splinter board.
>>262789693
Japan has taken some established products and made them more difficult.
Early Wizardry -> Somewhat hard
Later Wizardry -> Really easy
Japanese Wizardry -> Harder again
Well, its better to look at mainstream products anyways, I guess, and those would be the same in any country.
FO1/2 ---> Not really hard but you can at least mess up.
FO3/NV ---> You can't even die unless you drink little girl's piss for an hour to rad out
Early FF ---> Some fights that might require a bit of effort, have to figure out where you're going
Late FF ---> Follow this one path and hit x until you win
rip videogames
>>262788105
He is right through, Obsidian is garbage, they never deliver on their promises.
>NCR: A peaceful wasteland for all, naive but good natured.
>Legion: Might makes right. Honest, but brutal.
>House: HERR DERR I'MMA MAKE THE WORLD LIKE IT WAS PREWAR WITH ROBOTS THAT'S HOW THAT WORKS
Why did they even bother making a House ending?
>screencaps of the bore in /v/
mods help
>>262795767
He's got a thing for being right and I believe his future projections for being in space in 100 years
>>262793458
KotoR2 is bad without the restoration patch.
A real broken incomplete mess.
>>262790532
jesus fucking christ i hated OWB with a passion
>>262788105
it's true tho
>>262796378
It's bad even with the patch
it sucks because the actual combat and weapon customization are great
>>262795767
He has the best technology, and is an immortal, genius dictator. Plus he offers the courier immortality.
NCR is just repeating the mistakes of America, and they've got a big famine on the way
Legion is dead without Caesar
Independent Vegas is dead without the courier
>>262793458
>>262796378
Fucking this, Kotor2 was rubbish that lead to nothing. Thanks for killing the franchise Obisidan.
>>262796563
I thought it was fine but all the bugs and incomplete stuff bothered me.
>>262796624
There was no franchise.
EA would have shat on it anyways with TOR
Fallout 3 a shit, never got past megaton.
>>262796624
Thank LucasFarts for that. They pushed it for a christmas release, and then fucking denied Obsidian making a free restoration patch themselves.
It's literally the same fucking situation as with Sonic '06 except the devs actually developed the game
>>262796579
>they've got a big famine on the way
Good thing my Courier's is a fucking genius with 100 science, 100 repair, 100 speach, barter and unarmed.
>>262796264
>>262796579
People who benefit from the Mr House ending:
House
Courier
White Glove, Chairmen, Omertas
People who do not benefit from Mr House ending:
Everyone else
>>262796579
>He has the best technology, and is an immortal, genius dictator. Plus he offers the courier immortality.
>Implying House is going to keep his word and not just have the Courier killed the first chance he gets once he has no further need for the courier
You got reeled in, anon. Hook line and sinker,
>>262788951
>bethesda forums
>>262790863
>quantity is more important than quality
>>262796984
Did you even play the game?
>there was no choice to unite all factions into one super faction
fallout nv a shit
Honest Hearts > Lonesome Road > OWB > > > > > > > Fallout 3 > > > FO3 DLC > > > > > > > Dead Money
>>262787509
Discuss what was said or the two games?
Personally, I'd like to think I'm far beyond being biased considering it's been years since FO3 was my first Fallout game and I've since beaten New Vegas and Fallout 2, but between 3 and New Vegas I generally prefer 3 because of the setting and atmosphere.
I get it's been hundreds of years since the nuclear fallout and life has come pretty damn close to resembling what it once was before the bombs fell, but I really liked the total desolation and destruction of the Capital Wasteland.
KotOR1 - A game made by average people giving it their all.
KotOR - A game made by geniuses cutting corners.
We can all agree on this, right?
>>262797038
lol obshitian
>>262787509
Bethesda had far greater resources at their disposal than Obsidian.
Are you sure you didn't get the translation backwards?
>>262797038
>Fallout 3
>Quality
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>262796980
>Implying anyone else deserves to benefit from House winning
Are you some kind of communist?
>>262797113
Well, I agree that dead money was the worst of all the dlc.
But the pitt was still the best of all the dlc, and that was fo3.
>>262797081
OH YES I'M SURE LEGION, KHANS, NCR, BOS AND BOOMERS WOULD GET ALONG JUUUUUST FINE!
>>262787509
fallout 3 is the better of the two, end of discussion. It had a better story.
>>262797035
>GLORIOUS
>PERCENTUAL
>BASED
>SKILL
>CHECKS
I legitimately got cancer from reading that
>>262797113
>Lonesome Road
>Good
HEY COURIER LETS FIGHT ONE ON ONE OH WAIT LET ME SPAWN TONS OF ENEMIES AND RUN AROUND LIKE A BITCH WHILE MY HEALTH REGENERATES STUPIDLY FAST ALSO LET ME EXPOSIT THAT YOU DID SHIT BECAUSE FUCK SHOW DON'T TELL
>>262791668
Ulesses and Lonesome Road were a huge letdown
>Blah blah blah war metaphor. Blah blah The Bear.
Not to mention how linear it is.
Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road are tied for worst NV dlc
>>262790532
im with you anon i fuckin love owb
>>262797136
>KotOR - A game made by geniuses cutting corners.
This is a new level of Obsidian dick sucking.
>>262797236
That's what it says for sure, but maybe the poster mixed it up.
>>262797038
i seriously hope you are kidding.
that happens when you are trying to prove that the freelancer bodyguard is actually scamming people out of their money by acting out scenarios where people are robbed and he takes them out easily.
all the bodies remain intact and you hurting the bodies kills them, this was probably a glitch and considering i beat the game a week ago, patched long since
>>262788525
Yep. They were given allotted time and a budget, they knew it from the beginning, and they still didn't deliver.
Great.
>>262795141
>>262795659
>>262795767
>>262796058
>>262796249
>>262796264
>>262796579
I am the only one that realizes that Obsidian fucked up the personal route to power.
No matter who you choose, the wasteland is worse off for it because they are all shit. The only correct choice as it is is to choose no one and let the wasteland sort it out itself.
If Obsidian knew how to do non-linear storytelling, they would have had a several choices to your personal ascent to power:
>Asshole Hitler route.
>True Neutral beta route. You're worse than NCR.
>Good route. Intelligent placement rather than good natured.
>tfw there will never be good plots or storytelling in a fallout game
>>262797395
Still better than Dead Money
>>262790532
OWB was fucking delicious
>>262797270
>factions are just a series of linear quest chains that make you pretend you're going up in rank only to get a "thanks, all our problems are solved, now fuck off"
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post, other than the obshittian defense force.
>>262797347
>you actually gain infamy for persuading BoS to join with NCR
That was kinda neat
>>262797680
I can't argue with that. Fuck dead money
>>262797675
Um, House was actually the best ending. It stops the Legion from advancing and keeps New Vegas a shining epitome of the Wasteland.
Seriously dude, House.
>>262795193
I enjoy Lonesome road because it feels like what they were trying to do with Dead Money - having it be a struggle to survive in a recently post-apocalypse instead of the fairly leisurely post-post-post apocalypse of the rest of the game. It's also got a bunch of weapons that are cool but grounded in reality.
But the writing just sucks.
>>262790532
OWB is definitely the best DLC only because it captures what nerd humor actually is
I...
I...
I enjoyed Fallout 3 more.
I felt that the world had a better atmosphere, and the events were more memorable.
I get that it "wasn't a true Fallout," but I still loved it.
Is that bad?
>>262797902
>Is that bad?
Yes
Please commit Sudoku
>>262797902
Anon, who the fuck cares what you like
just don't say "what i like is best"
>>262788951
>this perfectly valid reason is invalid because Betehsda WANTED it to be this way
>>262797902
As long as you don't deem the entire game superior to NV just because "ATMOSPHERE" then you're fine.
>>262797902
>I felt that the world had a better atmosphere
a green tint and urban ruins is not atmosphere. you enjoyed the setting more. that's it.
>>262797764
Only a negligible amount. It's like "failing" the quest when you turn in the star caps.
>>262797902
No. Different people can have different opinions, and that's okay.
For example, I prefer New Vegas, but I hate the originals and didn't even finish 2.
>>262788525
Those were the terms of the contract, if Obsidian couldn't do it they shouldn't have taken the contract.
>>262797680
>>262797791
May I ask what all the Dead Money hate was about? I thought it was passable. Nothing amazing, but nothing too awful.
>>262797643
Right, i-its just a glitch, obsidian games have so many bugs and glitches that it's clearly just a glitch!
quick kotor question, first playthrough and an asshole spoilered me the plot twist, is there any point in playing it? I was having fun...
>>262797902
>I enjoyed a game, is that a bad thing?
No anon that isn't a bad thing
>>262796249
>Might makes right
>Metal Gear image
Did you know, anon?
>>262798192
i'm glad that you made clear you can't read for shit anon, otherwise i would've had to counter-argument your statement
>>262798070
Yeah. The atmosphere is part of the setting.
The setting also includes the time period, the world design, and the music choice. (The time period is irrelevant, but I pretty much like 3's choices more than NV's as a whole.)
>>262798070
Muh atmosphere beats the hell out of muh more quests and muh lore
>>262798172
It was a survival horror game, except using New Vegas' mechanics. It was like Operation: Anchorage, except with competent writing. Actually playing it was still a nightmare.
>2chan
>knowing shit about anything
>>262798192
you do realize you're defending bethseda with that aren't you
>>262795497
okay you got me
>>262796889
so much this, finally someone gets it.
>>262798172
It's 2 hours of linear corridor shooting with the occasional "press button, fight off waves of enemies" event.
Atleast it had 3 puzzles that were brain-damaged levels of easy.
>>262797902
Plenty of people enjoyed the Star Wars prequels, that doesn't mean there's anything objectively "wrong" with them. But from a critical point of view you're going to be crowded together with all of the other actual retards out there.
Sorry, but if you don't like it then just leave. Stick to reminiscing about moments in Fallout 3 with your actual friends, not us.You do have those, right? Friends?
>>262798194
The plot twist was shitty and the rest of the game is amazing, so yes
>>262798194
Fucking shut up and play it faggot.
>>262797113
I only enjoyed the first part of Dead money. The rest of the DLC was shit.
>????
>??
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
>>262797675
You can make neutral ending any of those. Do every quest in the most beneficial way possible? The Mojave flourishes, and everyone is happy and safe as they can be. Do nothing? Everything stays pretty shitty honestly, but not that much worse off. Do every quest in the most "evil" or unhelpful way? Shit's fucked, man.
>>262798423
>criticizing one thing necessarily means defending another
I hope you're b8ing, anon. Everyone I know that actually thinks this way is an idiot.
>>262798559
Yes, I have friends.
And I do like New Vegas - it's a fantastic game. I just prefer 3.
I'm probably one of the most casual gamers on /v/, though, so may that has something to do with it.
>>262798294
the music choice honestly really pisses me the fuck off because the bombs dropped in fucking 2077
why the fuck does he only have music from the 30s
did three dawg find an ancient box of phonographs or something
>>262798194
So he told you that your character is Darth Vader?
I was pretty surprised too. Did NOT expect that. My character was female for fucks sake, but shit man lava can ruin anything.
i prefer FO3
>>262795068
I'm lucky, I just have to walk 5 blocks to the nearest Sunoco
>>262787509
most retarded opinion I've seen today
>>262795497
New Vegas was shit. 3 was awesome. Anybody who thinks different is probably some preteen faggot that thinks Skyrim is God's gift to gaming.
Protip: it's not.
>>262798336
>Atmosphere is more important than gameplay
>>262798873
More importantly, why the hell is he the only person in the entire damn game to speak like that?
>>262798070
Fallout 3 had a much more desolate setting. less friendly people, less towns and civilizations, that all contributes greatly towards a lonely, foreboding atmosphere.
that game is still shit compared to NV though.
>>262795497
>>262799063
>New Vegas was shit.
gr8b8m8
>>262798194
It's a shitty plot twist anyways, one of the worst in video game history.
Name any plot twist, even Star Ocean 3's 4d shit, and it's better because IT ACTUALLY TWISTS THE PLOT.
KotOR's twist does ZERO to the rest of the story. The game proceeds EXACTLY as it had before, just with this revelation added.
>>262799063
how the fuck did you even leap to that conclusion
I wouldn't say "geniuses", maybe people with more money and people and assets and what not.
Why discuss the same shit every day?
HOW IN THE FUCK does one save the NCR president? I can't even get that part of the mission because by then NCR is mad
>>262799063
1/10
>>262799515
If NCR is mad, and you can't even talk to the Ranger for the quest, then it's unwinnable. However, the quest should have failed, in that case.
You could try using an NCR uniform, but guards and the dogs will recognize you as a genocidal maniac.
You could also try doing sidequests that add to NCR fame, to balance out your infamy.
>>262799063
> some preteen faggot that thinks Skyrim is God's gift to gaming
>Protip: it's not
Congrats Anon. You successfully learned that the majority of /v/ dislikes something and are now showing off your new-found knowledge by attacking a strawman of your former self. But, it would appear you mixed that sentence up there friend! You see, if you want to blatantly copy the popular opinion, you have to say NV beats F3. Just thought I'd tell you. Welcome to /v/you fucking sheep.
>watching obsidiots justify this terrible game every fucking fo3 vs nv thread
>only defenses are "well, it wouldn't be so shit if bethesda gave them more time, after giving them strict deadlines over a year in advance"
and
>"well, at-least it's better than fo3 right? I mean, it's obviously new vegas is shit, but if I compare it to a game that's pretty much on the same level of shittiness, maybe 1 iota of shitiness more shitty, then new vegas seems good by comparison, right? RIGHT?!"
Delusional little faggots. You're hung up on the lore in a game that never took itself seriously enough to make any kind of lore worth merit so much you are defending an objectively shit game. You should all kill yourselfs and stop falling for the fo3 fan's baits.
>>262795497
FUCK YOU CARLOS
>>262799094
>implying new vegas's fetchquest gameplay was good in any possible way
>>262800134
>implying fallout 3's "go here and talk to guy" questing is even fucking questing
>>262800134
Every Fallout 3 quest is literally "Go to this location and kill all the mutants" and "Go here and kill X amount of Y"
It plays like a fucking MMO.
Fuck whatever everybody else says, that girl in Goodsprings that gives you the tutorial had the worst voice actor in any game in the last couple years.
>>262799959
Dude Vegas and 3 are awful games. Vegas is just less shitty. The worst game by Obsidian is better than the 2nd best game by Bethesda, which is hilarious.
>>262800335
And this is different than "Go here and get the solar panels" in what way?
Or "go here and clear out the fire ants!"
Or "go there and clear out the repcom rocket facility of super mutants, good now go fetch some shit from the junk yard!"
Litterally every fucking quest in new vegas was also mmo shit.
YOU ARE COMPARING THE EXACT SAME GAME TO THE EXACT SAME GAME.
>>262800458
Nah. Yuri Lowenthal was far worse.
>Yeeeeeaaaaaaah, who won the lottery? I did!
>[grunts of pain]
>>262800547
>And this is different than "Go here and get the solar panels" in what way?
Because there are a variety of ways to approach and complete that quest.
New Vegas quests have options and branch, Fallout 3 quest are linear and generic killing shit.
>>262800505
If fo3 was 3.0/10
New vegas would be 3.1/10
Neither of them deserves have the threads or praise that they get here.
>>262797113
>implying Fo3 DLC wasn't better than the game itself
The Pitt and Point Lookout were so good.
The Pitt > OWB > Lonesome Road > Point Lookout > Honest Hearts > Dead Money > Broken Steel > shit > Mothership Zeta > Operation Anchorage
I think the main problem with people who actually like Fallout 3 is because they were literally their first PRGs. The only games these types of people had really played before were huge blockbuster hits like CoD and Halo. Just look at the release dates of all these games, the rise of casualization in 2007, it all lines up.
If all you know about video games is that there's guns and you go around shooting the guy in front of you, then anything going off a different angle is going to seem like a hidden gem to them. And when their mechanics and story are similar (including a perk system, gaining experience, helping the good guys go kick some bad guy ass!), it's even easier to get into.
These people don't actually like RPGs, they like the thought of playing an RPG. It's different, it'sedgy, it's something "new"! And everything that's not in 3D, first person perspective is just for nerds. :^)
>>262800707
IT WAS STILL BORING AS FUCK
The quests consisted of
>ok, you can either go here and fetch some shit, or, if you have 100 repair you don't have to fetch anything!"
You think this is good game design?
This is fucking dogshit, there's no replay value in that crap because the only difference is are you going to fetch shit, or are you skilled enough to skip fetching shit and still get the xp.
>>262800860
What did you like about Point Lookout? I didn't get anything from it.
The Pitt was great though. Wish I could play it without replaying so much of Fallout 3 over.
>>262800624
I got a bit of an RPG feeling a couple weeks ago, and I recently tried to play through NV again, when I came upon that part.
God, why did they keep that in the game? Imagine if you're that guy, and your employer asks to have samples of your voice acting in the most popular games you've been in.
>>262801019
It's the same with Baldur's Gate, KotOR and Oblivion.
>>262800860
I'd put broken steel above dead money but other than that solid list.
>>262800458
Aside from based Neeson and the guys who did OWB I thought the voice acting in both games was awful all round.
>>262801043
You also have the option of choosing where the power goes based on your faction decisions, or make it into a super weapon for yourself. That it literally the definition of replay value.
No matter how hard you try to play it down, it's always better than "Go kill the mutants in this cave"
>>262800624
At least Yuri Lowenthal had an ounce of character in his voice. Tutorial girl sounded like they just nabbed some intern's nervous girlfriend and had her deliver the line in one take.
>>262801074
The enemies were tough. Plus I love the atmosphere of the DLC.
>rednecks are tougher than Enclave soldiers suited with high tech armor and guns
>>262801381
>He likes bullet sponges
>>262801318
I would agree if she were meant to deliver some sort of emotional line. She's just kind of explaining Goodsprings, how to make healing powder, and "the town mom".
She wasn't very good, but there's worse examples within New Vegas itself, let alone "da abs'lute wers vee-ayy err!"
>>262801297
It's not better, because it's still boring as fuck. The quest to get those 3 options is boring as fuck and short of the superweapon option the other 2 don't actually do fuck all because the factions are static props that stand around and jerk off.
>>262801525
Fallout doesn't have great gunplay, so I was content that the enemies weren't made out of plastic.
>>262801043
Exactly, anon. That's better than
>here mutant
>you shoot
>>262801273
Joshua Graham was done well, in NV DLC. All of Dead Money was done well. I liked Ulysses quite a bit.
>>262801241
You mean Morrowind. Oblivion may be bad, but it wasn't the one in its own series to start a downward trend in the complexity of roleplaying games.Please be kind to your elders, Morrofags.
>>262801381
Doesn't help that the avg. Enclave soldier's armor was in shit condition.
Were they trying to emphasize that their equipment was worn from trekking all the way from the west coast or something?
>>262787509
>new vegas
>Yet ANOTHER crappy sequel that they made that nobody really wanted, but hey, it appeased the neckbears over at nma and obsidiots
>Fallout 3
>Shitty plothole ridden game coded and made on the horrible gamebryo engine, meant to revive a franchise which SHOULD HAVE STAYED DEAD.
>>262801774
No, it's not anon, it's equally shit.
>>262801996
Who are you quoting?
>>262788105
Its funny cuz its true!
HUEHUEHUEHUE
>>262802137
Who are you replying to?
>>262801905
Daggerfall and Morrowind are both great games with serious flaws, but Oblivion only sold what it did because it launched when the 360 had no games and did EVERYTHING wrong..My first TES was Arena. I thought it was OK but not great. Only played Morrowind years after it came out because someone had got it with a graphics card or something and was clearing out their shit and gave it to me
I'll never understand Japan's obsession with Fallout 3.
>>262802121
>both are exactly the same
>except one has choices
Bethesdrones get the gold for mental gymnastics
>>262787509
>geniuses
damn I love japan they're so cute
>>262801817
Yeah I'm probably being a bit harsh, there's a few other performances I can think of who did a good job.
Though poorly or awkwardly delivered lines kill my immersion quicker than anything, and F3, NV were filled to the brim with them
>>262802121
How are they equally shit when one is a direct upgrade from the other?
>>262788105
I don't agree with most of it, but I do agree with the last part. People suck Obsidian's cock so much for making simply above average games and praising them as the greatest games of all time.
>>262788105
>all these replies
>>262802226
>2 replies
>screencapping your own post
>>262802349
They have an obsession with Fallout 3?
>>262797902
>Is that bad?
No, it's just the NVfags that constantly spout their shit that would make you think so.
3 may have had it's problems, and there's no denying that, but it's still a pretty great game.and I enjoyed it more than NV.
I asked this in a thread last night but my net dropped lol. Does anyone know how to fix that menu and pip-boy mouse acceleration cross "if i was lifting my mouse of the pad every 2 seconds" bullshit in both games? its so annoying
Ill buy something on steam if someone can help me.
(it worked fine on this pc a year ago all i changed was my mouse, its now a death adder)
>>262794837
not him, but sometimes when i dont have an appropriate reaction pic i search google for one, and usually find what i want- you guessed it, hosted on tumblr. instead of saving it, I just past the link to the image into the upload field, and direct link to the image which retains its tumblr name.
>>262802367
>mental gymnastics
holy shit my fucking sides thanks
>>262801651
>not enough exploshuns
fuck off
>>262795021
Well see that's the thing. It's the same way with New Vegas. New Coke was just a conspiracy to be able to use the cheaper HFCS instead of sugar and get people to accept it. They made "New" coke which tasted like shit and everyone hated it, and used HFCS. Then they brought back the flavor of "old coke" as "coke classic" but still used HFCS. So instead of everyone complaining that their coke got real sugar take out, everyone was happy that their coke tasted more like the old coke again.
Same with fallout. The original fallouts were the original coke. Excellent writing, isometric view and turnbased elements in the form of AP, rich RPG elements, etc.
Fallout 3 is the New Coke. Shittier RPG elements, oblivion with guns on gamebryo, shitty writing, everything worse than the originals really.
NV is coke classic. They retained the shitty gamebryo and FPSRPG design from F3, but they made the writing and RPG elements closer to the originals. Not the same, but closer. Enough to satisfy some, but still not the exact same as the old coke.
Do you understand?
>>262795608
Well until you find out that the other guy is basically a scumbag raider who was formerly Ashur's right hand man and really just wants power over the pitt himself, and is willing to disregard the baby's safety to do haphazard experiments that might not even result in the cure being found.
Whereas the baby's mother is an accomplished scientist and will take the care to ensure that a cure is extracted without harming the baby.
>>262796058
And that's exactly why it's better. Unless you're a house fanboy or you make a low int, low cha character, there's no reason why you'd think he's more qualified than you to run shit.
Especially when you can conceivably leverage assets you acquire in the DLCs to make your nation unstoppable.
>>262796264
Personally, as the Courier I think you have a better chance of getting to space than House. I mean you actually have practical results and send GHOULS to space, where it is heavily implied in the ending that they've created some sort of advanced society under Bright's guidance. Don't ask me how.
>>262796579
>Independent Vegas is dead without the courier
Then you should make yourself immortal instead, and do it right, unlike house. You really have all the tech you need to do it at big MT too.
You come out of that place being nearly half cyborg anyway.
>>262788105
What the fuck._________{____________________fart___________
Don't you guys realize New Vegas is a reskinned Fallout 3? It's the exact same gameplay.
>>262805072
Yeah.
>>262805072
yeah nah
>>262805072
>Survival mode
>DT damage reduction
>ADS
Do you think Obsidian are going to work on a new Fallout once they are done with Project Eternity or whatever it was called?
>>262805336
Nope
>>262789303
Overrated meme
>>262805072
New Vegas is more like modded F3.
They stole ideas from some of the more popular mods for F3, like weapon modding, ADS, the "hardcore mode", etc.
Jesus Christ, it's actually amazing how unintelligent the average person who browses /v/. Sometimes it really is astounding. Anyone with the ability to critically read a children's book would be able to see that New Vegas was built around the fact that politics are futile. There is no best option. This is akin to arguing about consoles.
Mr. House's plan is entirely reliant on the NCR. If you did not know this, you did not play New Vegas. Simple as that. His plan is the halt the Legion and use the income of NCR tourists to jumpstart industry around the city. He will also rely on it for technology and a workforce. However, it is repeated numerous times throughout the game that the NCR will not last long, even if it defeats the Legion. The NCR fails, Mr. House fails.
Yes Man only exisrs because Obsidian knew you'd want to kill all the faction leaders and needed a way to complete the story if you did.
>>262805570
>They stole ideas from some of the more popular mods for F3
It's not stealing if the assets used are owned by them.
>>262787509
Here's their Fallout thread btw:
http://jun.2chan.net/31/res/2071404.htm
OMG WHAT ARE THEY SAYING??
>>262789012
Ahhh fuck. I dont like to admit it but yea. This
>>262795497
I kek'd
>>262789012
>a bunch of starving artists constrained by time: FO: NV
I wouldn't call them "Artist", i think they're more "epic poets" then "artist"... actually same thing forget it
Fallout 2 question
Should I ditch Sulik and take Marcus? I can only have one companion because I have abysmal Charisma and I don't want to waste a perk to have 2 companions at a time
>>262805630
if they put him in just because of that then they would of just not let you kill one of the leaders i think
WHAT GOOD IS AN IMAGEBOARD WHERE YOU CAN'T POST IMAGES?
>>262805336
>bethesda
>ever allowing obsidian to touch Fallout again
Nigga Bethesda hates Obsidian, they did all sorts of shit to fuck up the development of NV.
