Have you ever cried over a video game?
Yes. But I will never tell anyone what game because I'm too embarrassed to say.
I've gotten close.
Season ones ending of walking dead.
MGS4 Ending
Hal.....I miss you...
>actually crying over muh trainz
Autism.
Does tears of happiness count?
Never. Felt queasy over that mass grave scene in Full Spectrum Warrior though. I think I was stoned back then however.
MGS3 ending got me very close, it felt likeI had something in my throat.Also persona 3 had a very sad ending
>>262487506
Oh you just had to reminder me of that Toonami General from the other night, there sure was a lot of banging going on.
Suikoden 2
Their adventure just started, but it was over for me.
bioshock 2, good ending. nothing is stronger than the bond between a father and daughter.
>>262487506
Why would you cry about a video game?
>>262487935
>>262487506
That did not feel dandy.
>>262487506
ffxiii-2 Serah dying was to much.
>>262487992
This. Because call me a faggot but Wonderful 101 did this to me a lot near the end for making me have faith in videogames again.
>>262487506
thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqFftJDXii0
Generally no, only have for the end of Walking Dead S1.Keep that hair short. And the carnival scene in To The Moon.
Those games are basically made solely to make you tear up though.
>>262488404
I knew it would never be a thing because Dandy isn't Dandy if he isn't doing dumb space shit with no commitments.still made me sadwhy is season 2 so great?
>>262487506
>MGS2
>MGS3
>MGS4
>Shinjiro's Funeral in Persona 3 Portable
>Season One of The Walking Dead
There are some games that got me teary-eye, but MGS3 made me cry like a little bitch.
My penis cried.
Maybe you should try having a video game image in the OP while you're on this video game board
>>262488404
>>262488587
Did space dandy improve? I liked it at first but kind of fell out with it because it seemed too LOL SO RANDUMB XDDDD
I shed tears of frustration trying to do G rank Green Waves of Verdure in Monster Hunter Freedom Unite.
>>262488726
>/v/
>expecting anything to be on topic
>>262488515
>mfw the robot boxing section
>>262488296
>not neutral ending
>"But father, wherever you are...I miss you"
>>262488810
dude, how can you say that? That scene where the snad planet explodes and they surf on it is everything that's good with anime
you must be tired
I've teared up a bunch, but the only game that made me full on cry was RDR.
>>262488515
This. Fucked me up.
>>262487935
God, this nearly had me.
>>262488817
Average American Man was the best tripfriend.
Final Fantasy VI whengo play the game and find out
MGS4, don't really know why tho
>>262487935
Don't remind me holy fuck.
Yeah, the case was soggy as fuck afterwards and my tears seeped into the case and fucked up my disc
this got me close
Everything about Lost Odyssey. The 1000 years of dreams specifically made me bawl like a bitch. But after enduring all the most depressing shit, it grand slammed itself with a fucking beautiful ending that made me tear up. 10/10, underrated masterpiece.
>>262489367
Half as long.Twice as bright.
Everytime, if the game didn't make me emotional, it's a bad game.
![6bc4ed26c26a9be504263a268ac7c80120111230213847[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/9NcoYwJ.png "6bc4ed26c26a9be504263a268ac7c80120111230213847[1].png")
I cried so much my dad thought I was gay.
Gone Home made me cry from my penis
>>262487784
>game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuaQflZr3FoQueue missing man formation
>>262489529I gotta try.I know.
>>262487506
MGS1
MGS2
MGS3
MGS4
MGS5 undoubtedly will too
I cried over a trailer for a game does that count
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBz6HWBw3A
Ending to Umineko no Naku Koro ni will forever get me.
I have never cried harder and longer to anything in my entire life.
Runner up: Nier, for making me cry like 5 times.
The entire ending.
>>262487506
yes
>>262489621
>thought
found out*
>>262489894STANDING
>>262487506
Probably, I cry over everything. I just cried over an episode of bleach.and I don't even like bleach
This whole fucking game man, made me feel like I did during The Good, The Bad and The Ugly all over again.
The ending is just so fucking good, it's tragic but it's incredibly well done. I was a bit upset that GTA V didn't have as many feels (though I did tear up a bit when Trevor had to take Patricia home with Chicago in the car).
![JlItj[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UWhVZT8.png "JlItj[1].png")
Do I need to say more?
Snake Eater ending scene.
Nier usually always gets posted in these threads so here's what gets me every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL0wYbX8yrw&t=21m32s
>>262490080
Dad, plz.
Good to see that's Kojima's intentions are working on people
Fight against Hammer...
I cry everytime I hear this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmDYJBZZdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NICd9gQqUNQ
the ending of call of juarez bound in blood
>Pokémon and Drill Dozer credits
>Layton 3 ending
>Christmas EBA
>>262488608
>Otacon: "snake had a hard life"
>mfw
>>262489881
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn9IAjsZ0gI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PVrThqhlLA
"No old friend... you freed us all..."
I cry everytime i see my Dota 2 ELO
>>262488608
>Shinjiro
>He didn't play female route
>>262487506
>>262487506
>>262491093
What's this from?
>>262491014
>playing portable
Mother 3
>>262491140
Cowboy Bebop in Space.
>>262491140
Space Dandy
>>262491202
you mean 70's Cowboy Bebop in space
>>262490296
This is an underrated section. Most of the parts in NG+ were so well done, though.
>>262491229
>Space Dandy
Many thanks
>>262487506
I've almost did after finishing Okami.
>>262491274
>Woman realizes she didn't use color safe bleach
I was rather sleep deprived when I played the finale to Walking Dead season one. I saw what was coming but it still hit me pretty hard.
>>262488296
Imouto/niichan bond is stronger.Have you hugged your little sister today?
>>262487506
No, but this had me contemplating shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guGAfggANuU
Because webm cannot capture the feels and coziness.
Hell, the whole episode, man.
Thank you for being my friend.
>>262491274
I'd say this was surprisingly good, but I only played it after I had finished 999 and heard that the writer usually stuck to the same type of stories when he wrote.
I liked 999 better, but mostly because Ever17 is so fucking slow at the beginning. Those routes and the true ending are gr8 though.
>>262490732
>This is good, isn't it?
>Snake had a hard life.
So many moments where I'd stop crying, then the ending would just jerk more tears out of me.
>>262489924
Personally, I cried during ending A and B. Not playing for C, replaying act2 gives a serious case of burnout.
>>262491482
>>262491014
>He didn't play female route
>He didn't play non-canon* route
NIER. it wasn't even ending C/D.
ending B is what killed me.the fucking realization of what you've done
>>262487506
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEcl9AnMJf8&list=UUQ1tshMVvfAVmmxA_2Fm46w
Sure, I did. And those were true bitter tears.
>>262490048
that "good" ending... I hate it
>>262491674
For me its was A, B, "No one ever stops", NG+ Fyra/wolves, NG+ end section where Prince fights the big warthog shade and ending D so fuckin' hard.
Ending D probably had the most tears.
>>262491014
>playing female route
What are you smoking anon? thats not real.
>>262490275
>>262489919
You kid right?
>>262491326
It only gets me because I had to put my dog down 7 or so years back and have a lot of regrets about how I treated him as a kid going to adult. I also wasn't in the room with him when he was put down and some 4chan screencap from a veternarian says your animal (mainly dogs) look for you when they're getting put down. That fucking kills me to think about. It's not just Nier's scene that does it to me, any scene with an animal being put down does me in.
>>262491830
More recently beat Spec Ops, which immediately brought me back to Ending B.
>I didn't mean to hurt anybody...
>No-one ever does son.
>>262487506
1:I'll miss you... and our... Unwound Future.
2: Thousand Years of Dreams from Lost Odyssey
3:Nanako coming out of the comaI was also feverish at the time, might've had something to do with it
4:EBA Christmas Miracle
Probably some others I forgot
Resident Evil is so goofy, why does she make me so sad?
>>262491639
Robot was sadder
>>262492057
Been meaning to get around to playing Spec Ops, but I keep on putting it off because some people talking shit.
It's always hard to pick up a shooter for me, though.
Obligatory Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers post.
Fragile Dreams
Also of note, FF Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time. That ending just left me feeling completely empty.All but one of the people you knew are gone forever.
>>262487506
when I was 12 I stole my big brother's copy of warcraft 2 to play it with a friend. When he found out he beat me up. I cried a lot.
End of MGS3
>the part where the letterboxing from the cutscene pulls away and you realize you have to pull the trigger yourself
Only time ive cried at a game
>>262489680
>puzzles
>game over if you fail it
>not a game
>>262492287
Gameplay wise it's about as generic as generic gets, but it's not as bad as like Matt Hazard or Wanted or any of those other shovelware, it's enjoyable
>>262492287
It's a pretty tight, narrative driven experience. There isn't much gameplay without dialogue or some sort of exposition.
ion dying made me pretty sad.
>no trap bro there giving luke mystical art support.
>>262487506
https://www.youtube.com/user/ATYoDHanna's Departure
A Hero's Return
Little Liar
Fucking Lost Odyssey man
![Journey-PS3-Screenshot[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zay9Ow8.jpg "Journey-PS3-Screenshot[1].jpg")
Journey brought me close to tears. At first I didn't realise some random person in the world was travelling with me. He would stop and look around when I did, then we'd continue forward. It all felt quite natural, like we could understand each other. Then he left. And I ended the journey alone. Great experience.
>>262492287
If you like being guilt-tripped over decisions the game forces you into to begin with, go for it
>>262489223
I've played it, what part are you talking about?
>>262490296
That's what got me, too.
>That bit where he's desperately trying to pull the spear out of the young wolf
Too much.
>>262493001
Okay as someone who hasn't touched this yet and sees this posted a lot, I'm wondering what's so bad about that in a narrative game?
Is the main character supposed to be you, the player, being a bad guy cause the game forces you to, or do they have their own character and you just control him for the purpose of making it a game?
>>262488858
Killing Kenny was hard, but letting kenny go was even harder
>>262490296
>Everyone is actually everyone else just to make you feel bad
Still think it's fucking retarded
>>262491639
The fucking music going on during that scene is absolutely devastating as well.
>>262493252
>everyone is actually everyone else
>they stop shooting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_0N6PHAGN8 this almost got me.
> tfw I feel like I'm on the verge of shedding tears since NIS turned to shit.
>>262492272
No it was not you fucking pleb.
It's always Beepy
Everyone always says fucking Beepy
Well, guess what? It'sartificial sadness
>>262493001
>>262493201
As brutal and tragic as the narrative gets, it is still relateable. The MC, Walker makes decisions in a location isolated by natural disaster.
His motivations are clearly presented and are easy to agree with when presented from his point of view. Survival, loyalty, honor, and pain.
To answer your question, it never feels forced. You are given smaller choices in the narrative i.e. survival vs honor, compassion vs revenge. The ending you choose arguably shapes the story retroactively.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JvNhc13oKI
Xillia 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMS2eUaqsY
I honestly never expected it all to happen, and then it just wouldn't stop, I felt so terrible when it started playing. That whole battle was just damn man.
>>262493201
no that's not the problem.
the problem is that the game breaks the 4th wall and ultimately calls you out for shit the character did.
>>262487506
Yes. Lots of times.
I only feel apathy towards the people around me, but for reason sad shit in games and VNs cracks me up.
The only time I feel something resembling empathy is for people I don't know or chaacters on the screen.
>>262494719
>>262494719
>you feel like a hero yet?
>>262493201
It basically does the same thing Nier did, except in an incredibly hamfisted and retarded way.
>>262494953
I fucking hated the loading screen comments, they dragged the narrative down. They basically told me what I am supposed to feel now, directing me even when I am not playing.
Seriously I even liked the story but the comments were the worst thing they could do.
Would have been better with gameplay tips.
>>262487506
Borderlands 2
God damn I miss you Roldand!
![417562-phantasy-star-online-blue-burst-windows-screenshot-title-screens[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2ar8Xjr.jpg "417562-phantasy-star-online-blue-burst-windows-screenshot-title-screens[1].jpg")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG9sYS3ACFM(No.100)
The line was disconnected.
Game over.
PRESS START.
>>262494719
I suppose that depends on your position on trying to relate to you through a character.(i.e. the whole "do you feel like a hero yet?")
The most dangerous kind of person is an eager hero, as they say. That is why some people play games.
>>262494719
>>262494953
i still dont get the ending. i believe that walker and team are dead and just reliving everything that has happened like its their own personal hell until walker decides to let Conrad shoot him in the end.
>>262491725
>tfw hearing Red's familiar voice in Requiem after you killed him in Overture
>listening to his cheerfully-bitter remarks and ramblings as you step deeper into insanity
As shitty the third "part" was, it brought me equally as much feels.Considering the plot itself was just a dying hallucination, so it's not really that important.The ending was distressing, though: entering the same room with the incinerator and hearing Red once again... oh, and those little lanterns on the steps of the staircase where you find the rope... you know who put them there for you, right?..
Also, alternative ending didn't bring me any good feelings either. I doubt it was what's supposed to be a "good ending" at all.
>>262488515
>Vorkken calling Wonder Red "Wonder Red" rather than "Blunder Red."
That ending really got me.
>>262487506
Lufia 2's ending. I loved Lufia 1 so I knew it was coming but still.
yes....
>>262495209
If they wanted to have a theme, even straight up versions of those comments that don't attack the player for treating a video game like a video game would be alright.
>>262495250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJOdDmBzPTY
Nothing's going to last forever.
All we can do is to believe in love.
Yes. ME3's ending. One second I was fuming, the next I was crying and calling out for Tali over and over.
>>262495308
It detracts from the narrative to think the NPCs are just phantoms to bother delta.
>>262495427
This.
They expect you to feel bad for your actions, as the player, as if you're doing something other than manipulating images on a video screen.
That's not how this works. You get the player to get into the role of the player character then attack the PC for his atrocious actions in-game. Then you're maintaining immersion and making the player empathize with your characters rather than trying to make them feel bad for pixels.
>>262487506
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon GBA made me tear up, but not cry.
That's all I can think of.
>>262492057
>>262492287
>>262494719
>>262494953
Literally finished this game an hour ago.I knew during the white phosphorous stage those were civilians
There's always a choice:you can turn the game off anytime and none of it would have happened
Special Guest:_____You____
Nah.
I've cried from movies and anime, games have never taken me to that point.
Closest was the end of The Walking Dead S1.
>>262495706
>you can turn the game off anytime and none of it would have happened
Bullshit. The events still take place with or without you.
>>262487506
>oh what's this actual character development?
>well nah fuck you gotta restore the status quo of never getting anywhere in Space Dandy
>>262495634
Oh yeah, same goes for MGS3.
But that one also made my chin quiver.
>>262495271
if the game was so advanced that all of the actions that happened in the game were really my actions that I did because of my decisions than that would be okay. But it's not. They take the decision makeing from me and then give me the blame what happens. When I played the game i knew what those huge amount of small white blobs meant and stopped throwing phosphor but the game wouldn't let me proceed until I killed the civillians and then they shoved the pictures of those people in to my face and blamed me for those actions.
>>262495634
Aw man, Explorers was even worse.
>>262495845
Oh, and last one, which wasn't as bad:
FF7: CC.
I cried when Jazz Jackrabbit 3 got cancelled
>>262488972
God dammit anon...why did MC had to be turned into a door.
First time I played FFVIII I teared up at the part where Rinoa is drifting into deep space and Squall saves her and they have a long heart to heart in the cockpit of the Ragnarok where they admit their feelings for each other.In my defence I was 14 and at the time I felt like I related to Squall as I was an aloof emo retard like him
Say what you will butwhen your horse diedin SotC, I had tears in my eyes...
>>262488972
>Implying he didn't just want a quick nap
>>262495842
and DROPPED. some faggots actually compared it to Cawboi Beepapp
Notable ones:
Luna's appearance in Lunar: EB Complete, ending of Persona 3, ending of Tales of the Abyss, pretty much every plot-significant death in Suikoden, the last battle against Kowy in Suikoden 2 and all the bad endings of Odin Sphere.
>>262495897
>It wasn't my fault!
>Konrad...er... I mean the game made me do it!
>>262489462
MFW I'm on disc 4 and my fucking 360 dies.
Seriously tempted to get a new one just to finish that one damned game.
>>262496210
*Jowy dammit spelling
>>262496173
seriously though
>Scarlet contracts Dandy to pose as her boyfriend so her ex will leave her alone
>typical standoffish days but they start to get along
>Clearly she found herself falling for Dandy, Dandy even goes looking for her
>They miss each other by seconds, they give up and walk away
>back to the wacky antics of Dandy failing to bring unregistered aliens!
>>262495439
I started up PSO2 this June, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwD7AN8kjsU
I cried when I played Spore and found out what it really was.
>>262487506
When I was alot younger I cried to the ending of kingdom hearts. Legit.
>KAIIRRIIII!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8W0_tzHmcM
It was just so emotional for me for no reason.
>>262496224
Greentexting his point doesn't make it any less valid.
If you're going to pull something like that, you have to either give the player the choice and not force them into it, or put the blame on the character and put effort into immersing the player (IE don't break the 4th wall in obvious ways constantly).
Spec Ops was a nice idea and I'm sure it had a lot of impact on retarded CoD babbies, but as far as an actual quality narrative goes, it falls apart completely.
>>262491360
It's such a based show with so many flavors. I don't even really care if they aren't hunting aliens anymore, it's great watching the show go from action/adventure to comedy to crazy surrealism to art house.
> Musical Episode
> Crazy Japanese spiritualism episode
> Dance-off Episode
Back to back.
Silent Hill 2 has made me cry like a bitch on multiple occasions. Something about that game;s themes really resonates with me.
>>262494820
People don't like showing their true colors as it leave people vulnerable to judgement. Be open and eventually you'll find someone to relate toor someone who relates to you.
>>262487506
never
>>262493001
You could have put down the controller at any time if you really were uncomfortable with what the game was asking you to do.
999 made me tear up multiple times, and I think I flat out cried over the box ending.Junpei's reaction to leaving Snake was really heart wrenching.
![[HorribleSubs] Space Dandy 2 - 02 [720p.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/k9CdA5Q.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Space Dandy 2 - 02 [720p.jpg")
>>262487506
I love how bitter and grim this season is.
>>262496680
That's like saying you should stop playing an rpg because you know the story is forcing you to walk into an obvious trap.
>>262496680
That's a really shitty excuse.
Games have pulled the "do you feel like a hero" bit without going LOL U DIDNT STOP PLAYIN? WAT A MONSTER, and they've done it better than Spec Ops, and in more subtle and emotional ways.
Go, and see the world...ld...ld..
>inb4 katawa shoujo
>>262496680
Never thought I'd see anyone on /v/ defend that pretentious piece of shit.
>>262496475
I wasn't greentexting his point, I was pointing out the folly of trying to escape guilt by spouting 3rd party bullshit. He is trying to absolve himself of guilt by saying the game made him do it, just as Walker absolves himself of guilt by saying Konrad made him do it.
Konrad is dead, and the game didn't force you to do shit.
>inb4 faggot
i got that scene about two days after i had to put my dog down
i cried like a bitch
>>262496137
same here bud
>>262496609
this one too
>>262496803
Why couldn't they just break open the casket? Surely there were some things they could have used to smash it.
>>262496609
I refuse to play ot because those themes resonate with me
>>262496991
>the game didn't force you to do shit.
Except it did. Your options are "kill what you know to be civilians" or "stop playing the game."
see >>262496873
It's just a retarded plot bullshit.
Oh, and for the record, I actually DID stop playing the game. Not because I felt bad for clicking on pixels that are supposedly innocent people even though the game never really goes into any effort to make you feel that at all, but because it was pretentious and hamfisted as fuck and not worth my time.
>>262496876
This was a very beautiful moment of realization.Too bad the shade's voice was almost annoying enough to break the mood half the time.
>>262496680
that's the most stupid pretentious bullshit you could spew.
It's a fucking game a game is meant to be played the option to not play it isn't a valid one.
This is like watching a movie that shows you people vomiting on each other eating shit and blaming the viewer for it. And then refute negative critic of the movie with the words "you could have just stopped watching it."
>>262496873
So lets say you have a dog. If you step on the dog's tail, is it your mom's fault because she brought the dog in? No, it's your fault. It doesn't matter if you didn't mean it, the guilt should be yours alone.
>>262496137
WAAAAAH
>>262496680
The game didn't ask nor tell you, the player, what to do. The game did it all on its own. Walker did it all on his own. In a cutscene.
>>262487506
Never cried, at most Ive teared up, but not actually cried
No, I don't have feelings for imaginary characters
>>262497181
So you're an evil asshole that feels no remorse for killing people?
>>262497337
Let's say you have a stuffed dog.
You pay a guy to play a game with you. He tells you to jump on the stuffed dog's tail. You do it, and ask what to do now.
He calls you a faggot and says you're a dick for stepping on a dog's tail.
You point out that you did it because it was part of the game, and he says LOL U DIDN'T HAVE TO PLAY!!!!1!
Are you going to say OH GOD YOU'RE RIGHT I'M A MONSTER 10/10 GOTYAY or are you going to call him a loony and leave?
>>262497337
maybe try an analogy that actually fits.
>>262496803No you misunderstood. You haven't lost...I have
>>262497509
I feel remorse for killing people, not pixels that I'm supposed to feel bad for because the game says they're people even though the writers did absolutely nothing to make me feel for them as characters and expects me to feel bad because the pixels on screen look like a person.
Spec Ops is bad because the execution is terrible. The "you're a murderous asshole all along" plot can be absolutely amazing when executed well like Nier; it's complete shit when the execution is lazy and hamfisted like Spec Ops.
To you faggots that think Spec Ops is some magnum opus: fucking play Nier you plebs
>>262487703
I want to know anon. I won't bully you and it's not like it'd be embarrassing to say anonymously
>>262497509
>people
are you stupid? it's a fucking game the people in it aren't real
>>262497625
I wouldn't deny that I stepped on the dog. I wouldn't blame the person who told me to step on the dog.
I hope you never hit someone with your car, because the excuse you'd give the judge and the lack of remorse you'd show would get you locked up in no time.
>>262498157
do you have a problem differentiating between fantasy and reality?
>>262498157
Not that guy you are talking too, but are you legit 14? If spec ops had a resonance with you emotionally you are a literal faggot.
>>262498157
>I wouldn't deny that I stepped on the dog. I wouldn't blame the person who told me to step on the dog.
It's not a dog, it's a stuffed animal.
If someone calls you an asshole because you stepped on its tail when he told you to, then yeah, you have every right to blame him for being a cunt.
>I hope you never hit someone with your car, because the excuse you'd give the judge and the lack of remorse you'd show would get you locked up in no time.
Yes I'm sure the judge is going to be so upset that I showed no remorse when I ran down my Furby in cold blood.
This nigga getting killed as you're playing cards is pretty harcore, in hindsight
>>262487506
Fuck that episode.
>>262492460
No....
Noooo...
NOOOOOO!!!
>>262487506
test
>>262497257
>>262496837
>>262496886
This isn't a new argument to video games you uncultured plebs. The question of agency and audience engagement/ culpability has been going on for decades (Funny Games did a decent job of it in 1997), and millennia. (Greek Tragedies)
*Tips fedora*
>>262497761
It does fit. The point of both the analogy and the game is to show you that you are responsible for the results of your actions, even if you didn't intend on the results that happened. Don't go blaming Konrad when you hurt someone by mistake.
>>262498565
Funny games like spec ops is overly pretentious bullshit trying to make a point of reality being unidentifiable with fiction. Just stop.
This got to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXNQNeLDg5s
This demo.
You can't not feel like shit for any of the endings.
>>262496873
That wasn't the point at all. It wasn't about "do you feel like a hero?", it was about the player's relationship and recognition of their actions. It was deliberately breaking the 4th wall by asking you
> "Do you like what you've done? No? So then why did you do it?"
> "You made me do it."
> "I didn't make you do jack shit. I'm fucking dead."
> "Bullshit and or Fuck You."
> "Keep telling yourself that."
The meat of the "tweeeeeest" is in the internal dialogue the player is expected to have between rejection of their responsibility, and acceptance that they were a party to everything bad that happened in some direct/ indirect fashion.
It's really that simple. There is no grand philosophical awakening, or mind-blowing OMGGG SO DEEP. It's a game designed to make you feel uncomfortable and think about your relationship with the medium. It's why you're killing Americans. It's why shit goes south so repeatedly in the story. It's why the game dicks you over at several points.
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>>262498363
>Anon took the conversation to an extreme example, expecting I'd back out
>I go with it, showing him the point of responsibility
>You guys can't handle it saying it's not real after you made it not real
You guys are seriously undereducated in ethics.
>>262499108
Please stop, just because you took your first intro to philosophy class doesn't mean anything you are saying holds any water. Please you fucking kiddie stop trying to sound pretentious.
>>262498698
The similarity between you and Walker is so ironic. Both blaming something else that had nothing to do with their decision. It IS your fault, anon. I'm sorry that you can't accept it.
>>262499108
Most people are. How can you learn when everyone stops to call you pretentious for not resorting to a black and white answer?
I guess it's just how we're coded.
>>262499307
>Leave me aloooone!
>>262499307
Hey it's not his fault you only managed to go to community college while you work shifts at McDonald's.
>>262499307
>>262499108
Whether or not you feel bad, matters not.
It's if you bought it.
>>262499471
No not at all anon, I just don't think fiction holds any ground over morality and isn't great at doing so, specifically 4th wall breaking stories. It's just really lame and not really even well done at all. The game was shit, the message was shit, and I don't even enjoy dude bro shooters, stop trying to take a stance of superiority. You sound like a 14 year old who just found his first existential crisis, except it's a video game so you look like a monumental faggot.
>>262499108
>>Anon took the conversation to an extreme example, expecting I'd back out
who did that? When where show me.
>>262499729
Anon that's wrong though, i'm in my second year of med school. I am more educated then everyone in this thread, you can take that philosophy degree and kill yourself. Read kierkegaard for a real existential dilemma you reddit tier babbie.
>>262494404
I cried more with the other ending, that "thank you" fucking broke me
>>262498640
The only actions the player takes is shooting some hostile mooks. Everything else is cutscenes and canned animations that the player has no control over and no agency in having happen or not happen. And no, turning the game off is not an act of player agency; it's an act of buyer's remorse.
An accurate analogy is that you're playing ball with a shitty friend. The friend deliberately breaks a neighbor's window and blames you for it. He's Spec Ops, blaming you for something he does himself.
Shit, you want a shootan game with real agency regarding killing innocents?Modern Warfare 2. Holy shit.Despite having to do it for the character to get into the evil badguy gang, you do NOT have to shoot a single innocent in your walk through the airport. However once you get out to the tarmac, the cops show up and bullets start flying, you have to defend yourself or else the terrorists you're trying to buddy up with will turn around and shoot you themselves. They won't chide you if you choose to kill some civilians, feeling bad about it is up to you, and they don't force you to harm the civilians. You can even skip the mission and pretend that it's just an established character who did it off screen and not a player character. That is to say that MW2 made use of player agency, they didn't attribute the actions of a main character in a cutscene to the actions that the player can take.
>>262499969
>What the fuck did you just fucking say about philosophy you little bitch?Philosophy and art are subjective studies, nig. They're only able to be considered an intellectual pursuit by people who discuss it with others-- otherwise it's nothing more than a thought. You need people to argue with, like you, in order to make it a study.
They don't understand that they're learning by being challenged here.
>>262487506
Final Fantasy 6 just a year or two ago. Beat it for the first time, and the teamwork to get out of Kefka's Tower made me a little tight chested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e52-4yk_BYE
You know we have
>>262500247
Philosophy is a thought, it's your burden to find out whats true for you by reading it and formulating your own world view. These people talking about Spec Ops are uneducated. There is no real discussion to be had here.
FFX
Mass Effect 3. But it was tears of rage and sorrow. Never have I felt so violated in my entire life.
Hello
>>262487506
The high chaos end of the Dishonored DLC made me feel sad and satisfied
>>262487784
You know what. I wanna see if its porn.
It is!
>>262491712
The smiling guy looks like the avatar of cryoatic
>>262499969
>I am more educated then everyone in this thread
Oh god this thread
I cried over LoZ Twilight Princess, and Beyond: Two Souls
>>262493001
Bait. Even /v/irgins aren't this fucking stupid.
>>262495827
It's a game. It stops when you stop playing the game. It was a game about games ffs.
I cried like a baby with Crisis Core.
>>262499969
>kierkegaard
get a load of this fag.flv
>>262495897
>the game wouldn't let me proceed until I killed the civilians
That's part of the criticism. When you are bombing people int eh first Modern Warfare, how do you know the people you are killing are bad guys who should be killed for the good of mankind? Walker made a decision without understanding the whole picture, this had disastrous consequences.
once.
>>262493652
Everything is fiction is artificial, you fag.
>>262502475
>Sickness unto death
Not a gripping look into the eternal suffering of mankind.
>Implying you have even read any of his work
Fuck off.
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