what do you consider good character design?
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>>261470575
Is "gets my dick rock hard" considered as good character design?
Sure
>>261470575
My nigga from another motha.
FE has God tier character design.
>>261471594
it depends on the game, most of Awakening's designs are garbage and that's not even counting the abysmal guest designs
whoever approved this should be shot
>>261470575
>I like it
good design
>I don't like it
bad design
![2125678-yup4g[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/5XKFuYt.png "2125678-yup4g[1].png")
He's designed to look generic and bland, but he's called "Broswagonist" for a reason
Pretty good design if you ask me
>>261471594
well except awakening but the weapon design makes up for it.
How do you go from this, a literal perfection of character design, without a single unnecessary addition to it to...
I consider it good if I like it.
>>261471278
This is the number one criteria.
>>261472002
to.... t-to...
THIS
OH GOD
where do I even start
>>261471923
shit tier.
Best MC coming through
![Luso[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fXBdd9v.jpg "Luso[1].jpg")
to this
>>261471805
>>261472210
>we want the kill la kill audience
They need to have a lot of belts, especially belts that don't do anything.
Good character design tells you a lot about a character before they even speak a word. What their general personality and things like that should feel like.
Additionally, every element of the character should make sense, nothing should be there because "it's cool."
Aside from that, I don't think there's anything else vital for good design.
>>261472441
Are you fucking retarded?
Adolf from Ys
>>261472207
>>261472280
P3 a shit
Something like this
>>261472548
>>261472716
>>261472280
>>261471923
Pic not related?
>>261470575
something along this line of thinking
>>261472210
What the fuck is up with his cape
What would it do asides from make him trip?
>>261472760
Blazblue's got some shitty designs like Bullet and Ragna, but then you have great ones like Relius and Tsubaki.
>>261470575
I love detailed designs where the details make sense. When it's just details for the sake of details, you wind up with 20 belts and knee-nickels and such, but when it's all utility stuff it looks great.
>>261472760
what the fuck is this shit, looks like crap
>>261472943
Meant to post this with it. I like her design.
>>261472905
everything about it is horrible
second sword [????] shoulder pad on one shoulder, dumb long headband tails, unpractical cape, belts, etc.
piece of shit.
>>261473050
But Relius is great, and I don't even like BlazBlue.
>>261473167
>from awakening
Sorry, I'm obligated to hate that because I'm a fucking faggot.
harada takehito in all fields
>>261471594
It comes close for me.
You still get the standard tropes of boobie armor, battle lolis, knights barely wearing plate; i.e.: armored chest and arms and nothing else, and I personally hate when I start playing a FE game and everyone I recruit and fight up to a certain point have a normal hair color and then suddenly a pink haired drillhair loli approaches.
Come on, pick a consistent art style.
>>261470575
are we talking character strength or simply the art design? because if art design, pic related.
Timeless, elegant, kick ass.
>>261472793
>>261473167
>tfw the actual game looks like shit
Why do they even do this why not just make an anime
>>261473167
Why does she have feet?
>>261473050
The fuck is your problem man? There's nothing bad about it
>>261472697
>is it possible to remove this?
yup, you're from a drawthread
>>261470575
dark souls/demons' souls designs are toppest tier
Unique without being retarded.
>>261472210
The design itself isn't bad, its just respectless and it landed in the wrong franchise
It depends on a lot of things
A character should look coherent to it's setting but also to its art style
Cartoony games should have more simple designs where the emphasis is on what shapes make up a character where a more "realistic" or a game looking to be immersive should look practical without lots of unnecessary additions.
But then different settings could call for something different what I posted above.
It's really broad question to answer, you gotta judge these things individually I think.
>>261473112
I'm going to be called a FromDrone, and that's fine because I pretty much am one, but I think around 90% of From's designs are fantastic.
Souls, Armored Core, Bloodbourne, they're fucking well realized designs.
Props to those art teams.
That being said, 90% are great. The other 10% is either fuckawful or stuff like Faraam and Drangleic set that looked good in concept and they modeled into ass.
Sit down boys, the king is here.
>>261474065
wait what?
>>261472847
Katsuya a qt
The only flaw is loose socks over thigh highs.
>>261473680
>implying
Good character design isn't a matter of having realistic or sensible clothing just for the sake of it. It's not about being hot, either. It's about being instantly recognizable, either through the shape of the silhouette or the color scheme or something else that can be detached from the whole. It's also about appropriation of the look of the character to their personality and place in the story. Overall, it's more of a matter of symbolism, and not any one particular style.
I say this because every thread like this has people posting dudes in regular clothing just because they think being realistic is automatically good design.Fuck, I love Titania so much, goddamn. I fucking love FE9-10 in general, they really DO have lots of great designs.[/spoilers]
>>261470575
Simple, fun, and effective.
>>261474450
Oddly enough that fucking faggot is the edgiest thing on this poster, not the Grim reaper or the hellhound but Edgy Fiend.
>>261470575
Simple, with some fun stuff thrown in
>>261474338
See, you make good points and post something completely counter-productive to your ideas.
What the hell is that character?
An Asian math nazi?
I like SG too, but that one is pretty crap.
>>261473167
>boob plate
>heels
>that pose
>>261473680
Simply design.
How much does it tell about the character, do their accessories fulfill a purpose, does it express their personality or their world, etc etc
To choose a character at random from my folder, here's Dedede. He's fat, which suggests his greed, he wears a fancy robe, to suggest royalty, his hammer implies he's large and in charge, the hat helps in his expressions of serious, angry, or proud, his simple funny logo shows a fun side, and he's a penguin thing, to show that the Kirby world is similar in certain aspects, but different in others.
a little overanalysis of him, but a great example of a wonderful timeless character.
>>261472210
I don't see anything wrong with it. It just makes Roy look more heroic.
>>261474826
>he doesn't look boob plates
heels a shit though.
back when FE had great design and its enemies were scary
>>261472864
Huh...i hadn't thought of it like that.
>>261473367
That one is done by the artist who did PoR and RD though
>>261474728
He looks pretty badass, not edgy.
I guess it's thanks to him being a silent protagonist, if they gave him some Final Fantasy tier dialogue to spout in accented English he would probably be a humongous faggot.
>>261474716
I don't like that one.
It's too busy. Fuckin' hair and accessories all over the place.
Get a haircut and a job, fucking asshole. The 60's are over, Jerry Garcia.
Christ.
>>261474045
>belt over eyes
I seriously hope you guys don't defend this shit as "good design"
>>261474851
Nintendo designs are pretty timeless.
I love to see disgusting amounts of detail and extreme stylization. Dragon's Crown was pure bliss for me because it's an aesthetic usually reserved for point and click games.
>>261474821
When you ask like that I'm not even sure what to say about it. I guess the umbrella soldiers are based on Nazis but they are trying to imply she is asian at the same time.
Not a fan of the oversized gun but I like the top heavy jacket with thin legs broken up by the kneepads and stupid big shoes.
It's probably not the best thing I could have posted but I like it I guess.
>>261475070
>Badass
Do you think Simon is badass too? He looks like an edgy faggot anon, like a literal homosexual.
>>261475220
He's blind
>>261474668
Thank you for not being a sillyperson.
>>261475416
Blind people don't put belts over there eyes.
>>261475002
I'm with you 100%.
The Fangs and those creepy humonculi shits were great.
I started Awakening and the evil king archetype figure gave me Ghirahim vibes.
Which is not good.
I know that it's kind of a generic edgy trench coat punk design, but I really like how shinji looks
>>261475002
Awakening's designs are shit because the character designer changed to the guy who did No More Heroes. Which is strange because the designs in NMH are really good.
>>261475404
ALL THOSE FUCKING BELTS
>>261474973
I love skimpy outfits
I love well designed armor
but don't attempt to mix them and make it seem practical, that's just wrong
>>261475404
The difference is that that picture of Simon is accessorized like a fucking goth chick, the demi-fiend is relatively simple looking, with some tribal tattoos that are hit or miss I guess.
>>261475567
forgot picture
>>261475560
Don't talk shit about Gangrel, he's probably the best design in Awakening.
>>261471278
Yes.
Pic related
>>261472496
>Additionally, every element of the character should make sense, nothing should be there because "it's cool."
A character should dress cool if they are cool though. Checkmate.
>>261470575
>what do you consider good character design?
Distinct: The character should look different from other similar characters, at least enough that a person somewhat familiar with them could pick them out without much trouble. That's a problem with a lot of Fire Emblem characters: it's hard to pick them out from all the other red, blue, and green colored characters. Titania is actually kind of bad in that regard, and if she was holding a spear rather than that halberd, then it would be very difficult to remember her from all the other spear-wielding redheads in the series.
Distinctive: There should be something memorable that stands out with the character. For Titania, it's no doubt her braided hair and her halberd. Most other good character designs generally have SOMETHING which stands out for them, generally a distinct clothing pattern or something similar.
Simplicity: The design should be complex enough to get across the distinctive details, but simple enough to not distract from them. This is a big problem that some Final Fantasy characters fall into. They have a lot of details which helps highlight them as different, but it's so many little details that it becomes difficult to really pick out much that is supposed to make the character distinctive. Unless you want the character's distinction to be "wears a lot of belts", you probably don't want to put them in a dress made of belts.
Of course, I use hyperbole a bit, but it is sometimes difficult to tell these characters apart, as opposed to just "some character designed by X artist" or somesuch.
I'm still surprised they designed a game around a single piece of art.
>>261475771
>neo /v/ thinks this is a good design
>>261475404
The face make up for the body, anon. That guy who used to make Castlevania art was definitely one of the best.
>>261475665
Nobody thinks boob plates are practical. They aren't supposed to be. They're supposed to be feminine while also being armor.
>>261475560
There are plenty of awakening designs that are just fine. Mercenaries, Chrom, and peg knights in particular.
Awakening had a lot of good designs. They just really dropped the ball hard with the knight family and sword arm Ike. The other guest artists weren't bad, but didn't fit FE either like the design for celica and micaiah.
But then you have THIS. I don't think there's any better character design in the entire franchice
>>261475363
I like the overall aesthetic of Skullgirls too, man.
>tfw no playable anvil man
>>261475825
IF a character is supposed to be "cool" then dressing cool is then relevant to the character
>>261475629
Belts you say?
It depends on the kind of game you're making.
>>261475724
The tattoos are his design though, there's little else too him. He's a poor design, a solid 0/10
>>261475951
Ken could wear anything and I'd still think he's cute, that's easy mode
>>261476006
fuck that shit game
fuck this character
fuck everything bout it
>>261472280
If you actually think the P3 MC is well designed then you might as well shoot yourself.
Would it even be possible to do an entire game in this actual art style?
>>261475490
It's there to hold blindfold. Blind people don't fight either
>>261475002
Except Linus and his neck belt.
>>261472496
>everything needs to be realistic
Alright.
>>261472210
Did the Drakengard 2 dude do this?
Scharlachrot is one of the very few good AH designs.
I love how dorky he looks, the character design in 999 was off the wall
>>261475959
Yeah, OK. I didn't say there weren't, guy.
I just said the main enemy is pinging my gay-dar and I like the ones in the GBA games way more.
I'm only on like chapter 3.
>>261475939
JESUS CHRIST
>>261474449
AC in general has awesome designs, mostly because mechas are more like bigger and more mobile tanks than big powersuits.
>>261476374
Why do you shit up every thread about this? Fucking christ man.
>>261475490
I'd be more concerned with that demon or whatever.
>>261475961
Holy fuck Ephraim got lucky in the sea of mediocre DLC designs. I wish this was his design in 8, it's just so fucking good. It's majestic, heroic, powerful, durable, everything a lord should be, and practical in battle to boot.
>>261476468
Just wait until chapter 10, or until wallmart gets involved. I was honestly surprised the first generation didn't end in a barbecue like in FE4
>>261476405
Dorky? Didn't play but his outfit is screaming "hipster" at me.
>>261475939
What's so bad about it?
>>261476569
>i'm not allowed to voice my opinion
Fucking christ man.
Best Tales protag design thus far. Though I find Lloyd's to be more iconic despite making little sense in universe.
>>261476795
You're not if your opinion is shit. Get the fuck out of here.
>>261476747
I think if it were hispter it would be better fitted, to me it looks like he put on random articles and just went with it
>>261476640
You sound like a giant fag but I agree
>>261472286
>adventurer-style
>heels
kek
>elbow bucklers
>huge ass "sword"
>wears rags for no reason
Somebody shoot whoever designed this shit.
>>261475771
>not Donnel
>>261474451
the red annotation in the picture
also I think I've seen this character in a lot of drawthreads
>>261472496
What does the chain do?
>>261476747
>shorts
>tennis shoes
>flannel
>under hoodie
>under vest
That's some strange hipster outfit.
only character in this shit game that I like
>>261476624
Eddie is a parasitic entity that can change his shape as he sees fit, and is basically just a blob of shadow. He turns into sharks, sawblades, swords, scythes, holes in the ground, and all kinds of shit. He even wraps Zato, the guy, in himself and turns him into a cool gargoyle thing. His standard form when you summon him is basically a weird looking dog thing. Eddie is the shit.
good old sugimori
>>261475247
DC hits all the fucking walls
>>261475991
It's too bad all of the kickstarter characters couldn't make it in, some of those designs were really unique.
>>261476870
Not that anon but how is his opinion shit?
>>261476640
Please, plenty of the DLC designs were really good people only bring up the couple bad ones on purpose. Leif's was a lot better than his FE5 official art for example.
>>261476374
Did you even read the post you responded to?
I'ts not about realism, a design can be as far fetched and crazy as it wants to be, as long as it's fitting for the character and their personality.
I enjoy characters to actually have body types that fit what they do. I mean, seriously, how is it that every "experienced warrior hero" in Fire Emblem is built like a fucking q-tip?
Pic related is a very bad example, but it's the most recent one I can think of. This Knuckles actually looks like a, you know, GUARDIAN.
>>261474832
God he looks hilarious
>I just wanted to go on a jog and now theres demons everywhere and shit!
>>261475949
>the face makes up for the body
What a load of horse shit, apply that to every moeshit character ever (really do that because if you took that face you wouldn't be able to distinguish him from other Castlevania men).
>>261474450
>skellingtonn
>using a trumpet
>no lips
>>261470575
It's sexy without being sexual. Good work, FE artist.
>>261477294
what's up with that gamagori shit
>>261474832
This is the most androgynous character I have ever seen.
>>261477508
What?
>>261477330
>HD lego shoes
>those bandages
I'm still laughing.
>>261476869
The way he handles the falcatas is pretty retarded though.
>>261475629
Well sure, he whips people. He misplaces his whip he just takes a belt or two to Dracula.
Stop posting SMT shit that's not demons.
Almost all the humans look incredibly awful.
>>261476978
Flannel, tennis shoes, baggy shorts coupled with tight shirts and vests are super popular among hipsters.
Believe me, I go to a lot of concerts.
>>261477604
the knight in the back
>>261474065
Nope that text is in the actual design archive
>>261477604
Kill La Kill character.
Dynasty Warriors games have pretty nice designs in general, I think.
>>261472760
>blazblue
>good designs
lol
>>261477761
Fuck your shit
>>261477604
The knight in the back that is 90% shoulders
>>261477942
Cool belts.
>>261477942
To be fair most of GG's designs are equally awful.
>>261477942
Why does he have "free" on his belt? Is he a slut?
>>261475909
Is this the artist who drew the 999 characters or something?
>>261477942
>Xrd
>Good designs
lol
>>261477914
Kill la kill yourself.
>>261475959
boob plates are neither feminine nor armor
>>261478107
yes
>>261477942
Seriously what the fuck is up with people just slapping belts everywhere, take the belts off of that and it would look great.
>>261477942
>Belty Belt
>good designs
>>261475981
What's with the belts? What the fuck.
>>261478176
But it is feminine, no matter how much you don't want it to be.
>>261477989
Holy shit, that one is wonderful.
This bigger flew right out of Warhammer 40k.
Which game?
>>261477508
I'm pretty sure DC came out before KLK.
But really how is the opinion shit?
>>261477434
Fire Emblem has many wonderful character designs, but their issue is standing out from one another at times since there are so many characters.
>>261477942
Guilty Gear's designs are worse. He's got more belts than fucking Ragna.
Good Blazblue designs are few, but they exist.
>>261477989
I've only played P3P. Explain what I'm looking at because I like it.
I love the designs on Devil SurvivorI want a hat like Atsuro's.
>>261478303
>40k
But he doesn't have retarded clunky armour
>not posting the best character design of any work of fiction
>>261478439
The point is that he has shittons of ornaments.
>>261478176
You're stupid.
>>261477926
>Dynasty Warriors games have pretty nice designs in general, I think.
I have to agree with this. Pretty much everyone in the series is visually distinct and looks, at least somewhat, memorable.
>>261474832
you can tell kaneko is gay. look at that impudent canting ass. mmm. fine.
>>261475909
man fuck that game
and fuck the lack of porn of that bitch
>>261476229
If being three-dimensional wasn't a requirement then I don't see why not.
>>261478176
You're right, they're highly masculine.
>>261478303
Nigger*
>>261478460
Every time he takes a step he shovels five pounds of dirt. Not that he can see where he's going.
>>261477926
Omega Force in general is terrible at character design. They barely even try. I think it's half incompetence, half not wanting backlash for straying for pre-established images of the characters.
>>261478334
I just thought the knight looked weird, I didn't even read the content of your post and I want to bring up gamagori as much as possible
>>261478460
Close.
>>261478524
Except 6, with the exception of a few really great ones.
Also both 7 and 8 have their fuck ups, but in general they're great.
>>261478358
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator
>>261477809
>KLK invented characters with large proportions
>>261472905
Ragna's supposed to look like shit though, he's a parody.
I liked Noel a lot till she became a slut. Hatless Noel with the NOL uniform is god-tier.
Rachel's is good too.
>>261475959
Cordelia a low tier peg knight design
Pic related, no boobplate found
>>261477942
you talking shit?
>>261478460
I think that the fact you could easily confuse Kain with Dark Knight Cecil was a real problem. I actually liked it better when Kain was that sea-green color on the original SNES cart, because at least he was visually distinct.
>>261476006
52 fucking belts. 52. The IMOQ series wasn't amazing but at least it wasn't this.
>>261478826
Well he was my favorite in DK64.
>>261470575
You care if they die or not.
>>261477926
I really like Yu Jin's look, he really comes off as someone built for combat, especially compared to a lot of other characters in the game.
>>261478826
who let tumblr design this shit?
>>261478439
There's more to 40k than Space Marines...
Good design, you say?
stand aside mortals
I really like Four's design.
>>261478460
incorrect
>>261478595
i miss jackface
Characters should be judged on how well they are written, not how they look.
Mind you a mini skirt and perky boobs is something I wouldn't say no to.
>>261478770
>slap 3 plates on a cheongsam
>Good character design
you could have posted Miledy or Zeiss but no, you gotta be a fag
>>261478982
>implying characters have to be attractive
I mean the character is still shit but really
>>261478951
Well mostly it's on purpose, generals and females don't look too "combatey" while the warriors mostly do.
Not saying Yu Jin wasn't a general obviously, it's just a general trend. Like for example Cao Cao, Sun Quan and Liu Bei barely wearing armour.
>>261475726
Kazuma Kaneko is a god-tier character artist.
>>261477086
>legs thick as a tree
Never skip leg days kids.
Here is what i consider a perfect design
>outfit is what you'd expect from a plumber, simple, yet practical.
>absolutely no unnecessary anything, just a overall with some pockets to carry shit you find around
>hat has his trademark, makes him recognizable from a mile away
>gloves and shoes make him look cartoony while still maintaining a good cohesion with the character
>Colour pallete is great and simple, red and blue contrast with eachother very well and give him a neat, yet recognizable and unique look
Nintendo characters overall are great in the design regard.
>>261472864
The Male necromancer is essentially waking the dreaming dead up, clap his hands and saying "pull your weight". The assumption is that the dead are just idling around like a bunch of lazy bones, who need an intimidating sorceror to slap their shiftless skulls into motion. I like the notion that a Female necromancer can do the same thing, but takes a different route to it, by pouring new life into the old bones and giving them succour. The dead just need a little lovin', s'all. Top notch food for thought, anon.
Name one vidya character as stylish as Henry V
>>261478978
Why do you feel the need to end your post with an elipses? Do you know how much of a pretentious prick you look when you do this? It's. Like. Typing. Like. This. Please stop
>>261479046
>Red Mage
>not Elementalist
>>261478992
Pretty much all the characters in Darkstalkers were great.
>>261478607
>>261478460
I liked Cecil's Dissidia art. I honestly prefer Nomura's older style, but some characters looked better with his more current style. Just wish he was a little less feminine.
I can't see Kain now without thinking of Caius. Same VA doesn't help.
>>261476405
Really he just fits right in though, everyone has retarded clothes. Not that I don't want to fuck Clover into oblivion.
>>261477942
Bro, Xrd has terrible designs. Traditional Guilty Gear did.
Goddamn, somone post that one pic of Baiken with the army boots and the loose hair. THAT'S a fuck-awesome design.
>>261478826
i know this is a joke but seriously this fucker looks like he is from a cheap german biscuit wrapper
>>261479170
Who said anything about attractive? The one on the left has a better design than the one on the right.
Main characters need to be simple yet complex.
Whether or not you like Halo, Master Chief is very well designed.
He's a green fucker with a motorcycle helmet, but he still looks like a futuristic super soldier.
>>261479254
I concur
>>261479275
The fuck is with that spear
>>261479275
Dissidia art in general is great.
Also I find Caius' design to be incredibly irritating. It should be really shitty but somehow I like it, maybe it's that I just like the character.
>>261478754
Blazblue isn't a parody game though, it tells its own story that's supposed to be taken seriously. On top of that, Ragna is the main character, the face of the franchise, so that's kinda bad.
>>261479075
Design is equally as important if not more so than writing.
>>261479219
Nintendo is known for making timeless characters in general. Mario, Pikachu, Kirby, Yoshi, Samus,Wario, Bowser, Peach, Bame & Watch, I could go on.
>>261473050
Wow, a fantasy character with a believable sword.
>>261479290
There is no fucking way this is better than regular Baiken.
Regular Baiken is perfection.
Despite being terribly drawn, ZUN's designs are really good.
Characters are distinctive and every one of them have some memorable part of design.
>>261479420
why is snake so perfect
>>261479315
That's funny as hell to imagine. He is supposed to look goofy though and he looks better in the game.
There's two I'd like to point out which I think are good character design, firstly, Travis Touchdown.
His default attire is appealing, stylish, normal, and shows off his interests. I think the hair and glasses work well together, and the outfit does a good job showing his personality as well. (Read as: flashy)Sorry the picture is small
The second, which I'll post a picture of next, is Jack from Madworld (Also Anarchy reigns, but there's a few changes in AR's design)
Sadly, I only could find concept art for Anarchy Reigns, so explaining it would be a bit difficult.
>>261476918
Is her "shirt" supposed to be mail? Otherwise, leaving the chest completely unprotected is not very practical. Same with her pants, unless they're supposed to be brigandine or the like.
>>261479562
Like seriously.
The ponytail matches her viciousness perfectly, the boots in that image look retarded, the cat ears are "what the fuck are you doing" and leaving her missing eye uncovered is just something she would do. She doesn't give a fuck about her appearance, she gave up being a woman and just wants to kill the fuck out of That Man.
If they use that design for Xrd I will be heartbroken.
>>261479694
Some are amazing and timeless like Reimu and Marisa, but some fall into the sea of average Touhou characters like Rumia.
Most of the designs are pretty decent, though.
>>261479898
Travis is just Johnny Knoxville, but I will agree, that both of them look pretty appealing and interesting.
>>261479915
well shes got a whole fuzzy mask and poncho that go with it, maybe they add a layer of protection
>>261479562
That's not the one. It was an official art of a younger baiken in a red kimono with army boots, a scar on her eye and a mean smile.
I'd post it, but I'm on my phone atm
>>261479829
>why is snake so perfect
Because he never sees your imperfections.
>>261479915
If that shirt was supposed to be mail then that's almost worse.
>>261480128
I don't seem to have whichever one you're talking about, but that one is from either an arcade or story ending CG in AC, I can't remember which.
>>261479019
Design wise 4>2>Accord>0>1>5>3
>>261479472
He's just weird. I mean, I want to dislike his design because of the girly, fluffy, purple hair and armor. In universe, he just doesn't fit in. But at the same time I can't hate it because he's still pretty distinct because of his flaws.
>>261480251
For fucksake Anon, I'm not even gay and you have to make me feel that way?
