>fire does more damage than ice
There's is no such thing as cold, only the absence of heat.
lrn2science
>>260311879
No one cares, idiot.
>Electricity based element is called "Thunder"
> certain enemies are only weak to fire attacks
> fire damage only drains enemy HP
> the actual act of getting stabbed by the flaming sword/shot with bullets does no additional damage
>>260311879
Think of it this way. There's on optimum temperature at which something works well. You do ice damage to that, it absorbs heat from w/e and so it does damage. lrn2thinkbeforequotingshit
>>260311879
ice vs fire
>no such thing as cold
so?
>>260314285
well the fire would burn the blood vessels so you wouldn't bleed
>>260311879
>implying that "cold is the absence of heat" is an actualized statement in all possible universes
>trying to distort vernacular understanding and common sense into a scientism
Cold is a fucking feeling. Not the absence of heat. It's fucking cold if it makes me feel cold, if it numbs my body, if I see frost and ice and shit. That is cold in the vernacular.
Fucking little shits.
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>>260311879
How can fire be real if cold isn't real?
![mariotwopointzero[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GRg0MN1.jpg "mariotwopointzero[1].jpg")
>>260311879
>>260311779
>ice secondary effect is a 33% slow
>lightning secondary effect is a very short stun
>fire secondary effect is just some negligable extra damage over time
>"wind" does damage
>cold magic doesn't let you increase heat as well
>fire magic creates "fire" without any combustible material
>elements are based on medieval alchemy instead of the periodic table
>>260317635
I'd love to know where the idea of wind being "sharp" came from.
>gravity is purple
>>260318201
High pressure air cuts damn well.
>fire does more damage due to damage over time
>ice slows the enemy down
I see absolutely no problems here.
>poison is essentially the same as bleed
>>260318931
And burning.
>meteors don't kill everything on the continent you're standing on, yourself included
>>260311879
Except that's fucking wrong, you mongoloid. Heat is the acceleration of atoms while coldness is the slowing of them. There are chemicals which, when broken down, are bonded or react to other chemicals, immediately shift to one state or another, giving the sense of heat or cold. In the vacuum of space, where it is freezing in temperature, you can still be burnt to a crisp like the hottest of any fires from UV radiation. By your understanding, if heat is the mere absence of heat, there would be a finite limit to how cold things can get. Jesus Christ, it's not even that complicated of chemistry and physics and you can still be this stupid. Christ I'm mad, 11/10.
>no game that has bleed damage (as far as I know) will let you cure the effect by cauterizing the wound with fire
Somebody could have done it before right?
>>260318201
>>260317635
>>260318393
Y'know, it's like when you get gas from eating or drinking to quickly and you need to cut one loose, otherwise it builds up in your stomach and hurts. Yeah.
>>260321335
>if heat is the mere absence of heat
>there would be a finite limit to how cold things can get
Man...
>>260321335
goy I have some bad news for you
>>260321432
>burn yourself to stop damage
wot
>>260321335
> there would be a finite limit to how cold things can get.
And there is. It's called Absolute Zero. Learn2physics.
>>260321335
what is absolute zero?
>>260324742
>this nigger never heard of cauterizing
Okay, I'm felling generous, so I'll spell it out for you.
To cauterize a wound is to burn it, to close it up. You know how when you graze your knee it scabs? Similar principle, except burning it is faster. Yes it'll do some damage, but in some cases, it will prevent you bleeding out
>>260325539
>Fireball to the face
> yeah that completely healed the gaping wound in my abdomen
Freezing to death is considered one of the least painful suicide methods. Burning to death is considered the most painful way to die.
Nuff sed.
>>260311779
Put your finger on an ice cube for 30 seconds.
Now into an open flame for the same amount of time.
Now go kill yourself for retarded posts.
>>260325851
>Implying you use actual fucking fire
>Implying it can fix a gaping fucking hole in the chest
>inb4 I was only pretending to be retarded
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cauterization
I'd be hopeful if you can read this, I'm surprised you can breathe
>>260326489
>comparing mild cold to extreme heat
try touching something that's -200C
>>260326503
not him but
> implying that other guy wasn't talking about explicitly using FIRE to caut the wound
Better question: What would happen if a planet made of Ice and a planet made of Fire collided?
>>260327442
>planet made of Fire
so, a star?
>>260327442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV500W4BHU
>>260318346
Why is this a thing?
Gravity is always purple, and it just feels right
>>260311879
So I can't name it by a word? It doesn't exist?
uareatard
>>260327914
It feels right because it's always like that.
You got used to it.
> archery is A DEX based skill
> shoot red barrel
> it leaks
> shoot guy in head
> he shoots back
> shoot other guy in foot
> he dies
>>260321432
Warlords Battlecry has a Cauterize spell for pyromancers.
>>260311879
>There's no such thing as death, only the absence of life
> There's no such thing as cowardice, only absence of bravery
>Implying your idiocy isn't merely the absence of intellect
>>260318393
Right, but that's when it's being forced out of a tiny opening at around 3000 psi
As Ron White said, it's not THAT the wind is blowing, it's -what- the wind is blowing
>>260327618
Stars aren't on fire.
>>260317662
>fire magic creates "fire" without any combustible material
>Air is not combustible
>>260328576
>/v/ in charge of science
>>260327274
What like Roy Mustang?
>fps
>shoot towards an enemy
>his friendly, behind him, shot the guy I was shooting at to try and shoot at me
>I take out the guy behind the guy I was trying to kill instead
>>260328790
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit
>>260321335
>f heat is the mere absence of heat, there would be a finite limit to how cold things can get.
this is b8, nobody doesn't know what absolute zero is
>>260328982
The point is, air IS combustible.
>>260327442
So if Mercury collided with, say, Neptune? Probably a giant steam nova
>>260328965
>>260329118
yes I know, but it's still magic, so I ain't gotta explain shit
>>260311879
Cold is the name for the absence of heat you numbnuts
>there are powers at work in the game to actively balance weapons
>"lightning" is an element
>>260327442
>Not asking what would happen if our fire sun collided with an ice sun
>>260329526
>plasma beam
>it's just a lava shooting cannon
>>260329181
Gabe's giant ethereal face
>>260325058
>>260325124
>still thinks Absolute Zero is a thing
Didn't you get the memo nigga?
>>260312896
It's about the Sound not the Fury.
>>260311779
Of course it does, fire is way better than ice.
>primary colors are red blue and green
>think it's bullshit
>look it up
>learn I've been lied to my whole life
Also fuck you faggots for spoiling this game.
>>260330285
>primary colors are red blue and green
But that is bullshit, you fucking faggot
blue and yellow make green, so green can't be a primary color
>>260330285
out of curiosity, what did you think the primary colors were?
>>260329836
>there are things that can theoretically go below absolute zero
>absolute zero is the point at which molecular activity comes to a complete halt
>going below that reverses the activity of the molecules
>>260311779
>Wearing insulated space suits.
"it's a little chilly in here"
>>260330524
>yfw green and blue also make yellow
>>260330524
>Look it up
Apparently I and he were both wrong, the primary colors are just any fucking three colors you like, but they have to mix to make combined colors. So, it can be red green and blue, red yellow and blue, or what ever
>>260330572
I grew up on RYB when it came to are class, because they were the basis for all other colors. However, when I got into computers more, I found that RGB tend to be the basis for all colors.
Turns out either or are proper primary sets, with red and blue being the true primary colors.
>>260330740
>there are things that can theoretically go below absolute zero
but isn't it just that, a theory? Or is a hypothesis, I always get those 2 mixed up
>>260331208
Theory means it cannot yet be disproved, hypothetical means the closes scientific approximation with chance of refutation.
>>260331161
Thank god.
For a moment I thought you were about to go full retard and state something like red black purple.
But yes you are absolutely correct.
>>260331208
Theory has more weight than a hypothesis. A theory has math behind it that makes it plausible while not confirmed. Anyone can make a hypothesis
Example: I hypothesize that the OP is a colossal fa- err, wait nevermind, bad example
>>260331208
It's a theory, because absolute zero is the lowest "recorded" temperature there is, but it's not the lowest that can ever be. In theory, we should be able to infinitely reach new absolute zeros.
>>260325124
Probably where the reapers live.
>>260331453
>implying
black is a pigment, not a color, you piece of shit
>>260331572
But "cold" is the absence of energy. Absolute Zero is total absence of energy of any kind.
>>260311879
There is no such thing as heat. Only the vastness of cold dark space with a few suns in between that burn out.
lrn2stfu fag
>>260330740
>>260331208
Things that have negative absolute temperature (below absolute zero) are "hotter" than infinitely hot.
That is, heat will always flow from a negative absolute temperature system to one which has a positive absolute temperature.
This negative absolute temperature simply comes out of forcing everything to have a spin up, which when you look at the equation requires T to be negative. It's one of those weird thermodynamics things.
>>260331572
Absolute zero has yet to be experienced or recreated, and does not have a set temperature just a ballpark estimate at which molecular activity absolutely stops because of the lack of energy
>>260331686
> implying you're not missing the point of my post
>>260331769
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero
>It is commonly thought of as the lowest temperature possible, but it is not the lowest enthalpy state possible
>>260332034
>yet to be
It's impossible.
>>260332019
you lost me
but that's okay, I always knew I was retarded.
>>260332019
>below absolute zero is just the beginning of really really hot
>so if things get hot enough they freeze absolutely
Fuck you science.
>>260326348
If the flame burns fast and hot enough, you don't feel it. It will instantly burn your flesh and kill your sensory nerves. that's why some people die in house fires while sleeping.
Depending on how cold the place is, it may take a while to hit hypothermia. But before that sets in, you cramp, lose motor control, body aches, painful breathing... Probably more. But hey, once you hit that point where sensory nerves die, must feel like heaven.
>>260332193
It isn't proven to be impossible. Just not currently observable or logically creatable under current circumstances.
>>260327618
Star =\= fire.
>>260332441
It is proven to be impossible. There are so many issues with it, but fundamentally it breaks at least 2 laws of thermodynamics.
>>260332251
>>260332194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTeBUpR17Rw
>Radioactive decay is never an attack property
I just want to give my enemies giant tumours.
>>260332251
You got it backwards, if things becomes cold enough they become infinitely hot. Though I don't know if that's "Particles are bouncing everywhere" hot or "oh, this stings to touch" hot
>>260332605
Those laws are just what is observable, and true under our current known circumstances, so yeah I admit that I was wrong on that account. But in the vastness of space, anything is possible,which is the scariest fucking shit.
>>260332784
>implying you would have the patience to wait for your enemies to grow tumours
>>260329118
Air we breathe is not combustible. Or we would all be on fire right now.
Elements in the air are... Air itself is not.
Can't tell if b8 or just stupid.
>>260332893
No, they are called laws for a reason.
It is physically impossible to reach 0K.
>>260332861
I was joking that temperature is cyclical.
>>260332453
Both are plasma, albeit plasma of different types.
>>260328605
The wind being your mum.
>>260332946
That's why you sub class as a time mage.
>>260330740
Thus, time travel is impossible... At least being alive when we get there is.
>>260333003
They are called laws under what we observe and what is uniform and true. I merely shared my pondering that the endlessness of space likely holds exceptions to everything you can think of.
>>260332771
thanks that helped. I feel slightly less retarded now.
>Ice is weak to fire instead of being resistant to it and doing counter-damaging when it melts
since this is a /sci/ thread
>people think that if you get your particles broken down and reassembled in a different place that it would be different because "hurr durr it's not you!"
>implying that anything would change
>implying that your thoughts and choices are different from a perfect clone
>>260317635
It could be damaging their internal pressure. I've seen people die from getting a vacuum hose shoved into their asscrack.
>>260332784
It is in defiance. Fun MMO btw.
>>260333520
Wouldn't you lose particles due to radiation during the transferal process?
>ice is an op as shit element, many good enemies are weak to it
>all fire can harm is some fucking spiders
lol
>>260333520
As long as we were reassembled to exact specifications, I agree.
Something else along those lines that is is interesting is dying or going into a coma does a shift to you brain functions, and some people can apparently come back quite different than when they left.
>>260333269
Your appeal to the unknown is misguided. Space is homogenous, which means it's basically the same everywhere. There is nothing more interesting lurking beyond the causal boundary that what we can already observe.
If you're genuinely interested in why 0K is impossible look up zero-point energy. It comes out of quantum mechanics which is something we understand very well and have been exploiting for years.
>>260333181
>a gas giant that constantly ignites
>the same as a giant ball of plasma
>Implying plasma is a gas
Are you mentally retarded?
>>260333765
well if you did I doubt they'd be enough to completely change who you are and what you'd do.
>>260333837
Brain science is fucking weird, I love it
>Using a fire attack right after an ice attack or a lightning attack right after a water attack has no special combos or neat extra effects
fuck you video games
>>260332771
I'm too pleb for those videos.
>>260334091
I'd expect loss of memory and cancer though.
>>260334257
>tfw Bioshock Infinite had combos like this
>they were all ass
>>260334393
I don't understand how you could have all that shit in a combat system and still make it boring as shit
>>260333476
>Ice enemy
>weak to fire, resists wind
>burned it with fire
>second form is water enemy
>dry it out with wind
shit would be fucking hype
>>260334554
The biggest problem was how each of the vigors was fucking expensive to your salts except for Bucking Bronco, which was OP as fuck. That brokedick fucking vigor carried me through 1999
>>260334257
Lichdom battlemage has that. Bah, its the only thing it has
>>260333520
What if the particles that get reassembled aren't the same one, but just follow the exact same pattern?What if the first "you" wasn't disassembled but only scanned, would there be two of you?
>>260335110
most importantly, would yougo fuck yourself?
/v/ - Science Wannabe
>>260318931
>bleed does physical damage and is reduced with armor
>poison does magical damage and is reduced by magic resistance
>>260335350
>tfw raping myself would be logically impossible
well unless someone managed to convince only one of my clones
or I only wanted to be the active onethere's still hope
>>260335110
If the same parts are used in the exact same way, and your brain retains all it's memory, then it would be the same to me.Yeah, I guess.
I was mostly referring to this one shitty doctor who episode, which has god awful science all the god damn time, where this bitch had to go through a time portal to help the doctor, and then some other bitch was like "It wouldn't really be you, because humanz have a soul and hurr durr, humman spurt"
>>260326756
you can hold liquid nitrogen in your mouth. just dont swallow
>everything is resistant to fire, making it useless
>weapons that decrease resistance to stats with no logical reasoning
>wood shield
>makes it so you don't ignite and suffer constant burn
>resist explosions and fire more than a metal shield
>metal shield
>allows the burn to continue
>>260335673
I think the real problem is why would you assume consciousness would survive the breakdown and reassembling? Our consciousness is the result of chemical and electrical processes in our brains, when you are atomized for transport that shit would stop.
From the perspective of everyone else in the universe nothing changes, sure. But what makes you so sure that your consciousness would make the shift?
>>260336505
Wood shield would burn away, metal shield would get hot and conduct that heat right to you
>>260332771
So negative temperatures hold in energy.
Cool.
>>260337263
if done correctly, it should be just like fainting for a second. After all, after a fainted person recovers don't you usually say he/she regained consciousness?
>>260311779
How would ice do more damage than fire?
>>260337693
The chemical and electrical processes are still going while you are unconscious. You still exist, you can dream and stuff.
I feel teleportation would be more akin to creating an identical copy of your brain, removing the existing brain and throwing it into a blender, and then transplant the cloned brain into the body. Would you continue to exist in that circumstance? To the outside observer yes and the copy, effectively nothing has changed. But to the consciousness that was copied is gone.
>>260338307
Because a dev put a higher number to a variable "HurfDurfElement" than to "HerpiniDerpelloElement".
>get poisoned by plants, snakes, scorpions, etc.
>same antidote for everythingMakes sense from a gameplay perspective though, seeing as how it would be retarded to carry around several antidotes each for a single enemy
>>260338482
Reddit pls
>to kill red enemies you need to use fire
>to kill blue enemies you need to use ice
of all the things DmC did wrong, this was the worst
>>260338731
>antidote is a simple and cheap spell and can cure any poison instantly, no matter how much damage it could potentially deliver, making DoTs useless
>>260339604
Except for the only time you get poisoned is when you don't have an antidote
>red skeletons regenerate
>>260339173
>using weakness types
>In a game where you are supposed to do big weapon switch combos and use everything against everything
even god of war knows that the weapons have specific uses and downsides and it shouldn't be the enemy that dictates the player's weapon choice
>green skeletons have poison damage
>>260342651
>undead are hurt by healing spells
>blue skeleton is an ice mage
>skeleton explodes on death
>>260342864
>Healing
You mean "Holy"
Most undead creatures are "Undead" or "Dark" creatures which are susceptible to "Holy" attribute.
>>260335954
>Vanilla_WoW.jpg
Mage was weird, back in the day.
>>260317635
>>260314892
but i dont think you would feel too good
>dragon element
>It's effective against dragons
>>260338482
australia pls
>>260343176
No, he means healing, which is a thing in final fantasy
>>260343749
what the fuck is a dragon element
what game are you referring to?
>Shock/Plasma damage works better against shields
>Fire damage deals more damage than either of them to unshielded targets
>>260344284
>Shields break so easy you might as well just use fire the whole game
>>260344157
pokemon, faggot
>>260328821
>/sci/ in charge of philosophy
>>260330053
>tips fedora
>>260344157
monhan
>>260343423
Fucking warn me before you post this shit!
>>260344284
fire=plasma wtf
whatt game is this..
>>260344630
literally what?
>>260328605
More like the wind is pushingMEEEEEEE
>>260343176
Healing is one of the main damage sources of Clerics in MMOs towards Undead enemies
>>260344731
Plasma and fire are not the same thing, you faggot
>>260311779
>fire ignites enemies, causes lingering damage, repels undead and illuminates areas
>ice can freeze enemies who have been doused, inflicts torpor, does physical damage and can form platforms for maneuvering when in solid form
>lightning stuns enemies, arcs between multiple targets and inflicts extra damage on doused enemies
>earth magic summons enormous pillars and boulders to inflict huge physical damage, topple large enemies, scatter small ones and form platforms to climb and walls to impede
>wind magic summons massive maelstroms to batter foes, extremely useful against airborne foes
>holy magic inflicts huge damage to demons and undead, repels them and heals the user
>dark magic does bonus damage to any living thing
Oh wait, these are all awesome. Based Dragon's Dogma.
>water and ice are seperate damage types
>certain enemies are vulnerable to water but not ice and vice versa
>>260343273
Dick lasers.
>>260345478
An earth enemy would be able to absorb water and be hurt by ice because it freezes the living cells, although I don't understand how magic ice and magic water works, because if magic water can extinguish magic fire, then magic fire should be able to melt magic ice and then the fire would be extinguished anyway. Unless the ice is made out of something that isn't water and when it melts it doesn't do anything.
>>260345360
alright ill give you that.
>>260334073
>quantum mechanics which is something we understand very well
:^)
>>260347140
>literally all of modern electronics relies on a good understanding of qm to produce
