SMWfags will defend this.
>implying it wasn't the same shit as Raccoon Mario in 3
>>260209171
Even worse, in SMB3 all you need to do it repeatedly press A. On SMW if you lose the timing or get to a wall, it's over.
Also, the feather was fucking fun to use, don't be a nerd faggot OP.
>>260208872
What sound does it make when it comes out a box?
>>260209480
bruhrhuu
Are you saying you don't like the feather? Are you a faggot or something?
>>260208872
Cape Mario looks less gay than Furry Mario.
>>260208872
nigga back off go kick rocks
feather actually takes skill in gliding
not like that possum suit where you hold A
only furfags want to be a possum
Stone Cold Tier
Tanooki Suit
Good Tier
Leaf
One way trip to Hell Tier
Feather
Sir Cheats-a-lot Tier
P-Wing
>p-balloon
>all of that bullshit fetish art that started appearing on dA years later because of it
>the most fucking useless item in the game
defend it smwfags
What's wrong wit phoenix down?
>>260208872
you really must detest fun of any kind
3 had better, more diverse level design, and also had a shit ton of powerups
Worldfaggots can go suck a dick
>>260210362
>pray to god you can keep it for more than one stage tier
>hammer suit
>>260210579Never
>Flying over entire levels to the point that you don't even know what the level looks like
Absolutely Disgusting
>>260211070
There will never be a greater power up.
>>260210152
ayyy
>Hammer suit will never appear again as a power-up
>>260211070
Feels.feelpg
>>260211059
No, you go eat a dick, faggot, both SMB3 and World are great games, And tanooki Mario is way more broken than cape Mario.
Super Mario Bros U honestly feels like a true sequel to SMW
>Level design is really close to SMW with somewhat short levels, secret exits and the golden coins
>Squirrel is a wonderful balance between the Cape and the Racoon
>Koopa Kids
>Secret Exits
>The Secret World
Why does the feather give you a cape?
the Raccoon Leaf I can understand, it has a place in mythology.
but what the hell is the connection here?
>>260211525
SMW didn't have any mythology references.
>>260208872
The Feather, the Leaf and Tanooki suit are in the same league.
The Super Acorn is the only balanced flight powerup in the 2D games.
The tail power-up only let you stay in the air a short period of time unless you used a P-Wing.
The cape let you fly forever unless you suck or the level had obstacles to prevent you from doing so.
Cape+Blue Yoshi was even more ridiculous and could be used to skirt around obstructions that prevented the cape by itself from skipping a level.
So cape wins in the 'trivializes the game' department. Not even going into things like the earthquake stomp or how the cape spin was faster and had longer range than the tail spin.
>>260211681
Yes it did.
>>260211758
what are you smoking the leaf was no where as broken as the feather.
>>260211071
>shoving spikes into what is essentially a balloon
shit nigger what are you doing
>>260211942
Like?
>>260211826
Don't forget cape spin kills a lot more enemies than tail does
>>260211070
>want to finish world 8 with hammer only
>NOPE YOU GOTTA FLY TO THESE AREAS
Same goes for the Froggy suit.
>>260212037
I don't know why the feather gives you a cap or if that is based on a myth, but there's a reference to a creature from jap folklore in world 1, Kappa mountain, based on the kappa turtles (which were also the inspiration for the koopas and bowser)
>>260208872
That's nothing.
>fire flowers in smb3
WHAT WAS THE FUCKING POINT?
Anyone got any good SMW romhacks?
>>260212458
Onlybad players will ever really see that though, it only exists so that some players won't get horrendously stuck.
>>260210152
haha! look how relevant that is!
>>260210152
ayy lmao
>>260212458
>Playing with gf
>Whenever we fuck up to the point of getting one of these, she says they're amazing and its not cheating to use it
>Argue against it, give in
>Fun as shit, but feel hollow inside
Let me have it as a reward, not as a crutch. Like when you superbeat Goldeneye and you get access to something that makes it so you literally never get hit
>>260212010
Don't you know about popping fetishes?
>>260212892
Enjoy your non-sparkly stars
>>260212592
Range attack nigga
>>260212592
Water levels nigga
>>260212592
better on every boss/cheepcheep stage
in world the feather was just a straight upgrade
>There are hipsters on /v/ RIGHT NOW who pretend that SMB3 was better than SMW
>>260212892
>Let me have it as a reward, not as a crutch.
I sometimes wonder about games rewarding players for playing well with objects that make the game easier though.
"You played well so we'll give you this that makes it easy you pro"
"You found the game really difficult and kept losing so nothing for you, keep struggling noob"
>>260209401
No mate. In 3, you can only fly for as long as you have your P bar filled - unless you have P-wings, which are not common. In SMW, you can get a high altitude and then just hit back to maintain your height for the rest of the stage. You can skip quite a few stages by playing this way.
>>260213685
>stealth politard bait
10/10 almost said socialism
>>260212921I was actually trying to bait someone into posting a popping pic
The real question, which had the better Wendy
>>260213530
Super Mario World was the beginning of new features that killed all future 2D mario games. The addition of gimmicks like Yoshi devalued the experience by making the gameplay impure - are you failing repeatedly on a certain challenge? Go collect some items, some backup items in case you get hit, another yoshi, come back, and skip over the challenge with no repercussions.
>>260214057
>no gore
NIGGA
>>260213198
>>260213310
I know they're a blessing there, I forgot to add what's the point of it on land stages? Anything else did the job better.
Also, I never understood why they put the locked gates in the overworld, by the time you unlock it you finished those stages or they send you to a dead end.
>>260214057
>>260212921
dobson pls
>>260214379
If you game over those levels return to unbeatenbut you knew that
>>260212921
>>260214057
Oh for fucks sa-
Thats it /v/. That's enough internet for today. Im going to bed.
>>260214743
>He hasnt heard of inflation
>>260213685
you never get good if the game holds your dick for you
and you dont have any incentive or indication for being good if theres no reward
doing the opposite is dumb, games are all about competition
>>260214331
The few gore pics I have are pretty shit (as in they explode into red paint) + not vidya.
>>260214854
I know about inflation. Ive fapped to monster girls, incest, pregnant, loli, and futa. Sometimes a combination of all those. But I've never heard of popping fetishes until this thread.
>dobson
>>260210329
Stop being a faggot nigger wannabe
>>260209171
>implying it wasn't the same shit as Raccoon Mario in 3
It wasn't. In SMB3, you can only fly for a set amount of time before your P-meter starts emptying.
The P-Wing is the only thing in SMB3 that remotely comes close to World's cape, but even then the P-Wing is only good for one stage, and if you get hit, you can't get it back.
The cape is absolutely broken and is one of the major reasons why SMB3 > SMW.
inflation is a terrible fetish and I feel worse for being turned on by it
but the p-balloon does nothing for me
>>260213530
>smw
>angry sun
leave
>>260214254
Miyamoto wanted Yoshi in since SMB
>>260215842
Miyamoto had plans for Yoshi 5+ years before anyone saw him? Not doubting you, just curious
>>260216068
not him but there are documents dating back to the original SMB with Mario riding a dinosaur, and the devs have said they intended it but never got around to getting it to work in-game
The design wasn't finalized obviously but the intent was there
>>260215510
Let's not forget the difference between the tail hitbox of raccoon mario and the cape hitbox. Cape is easy mode in that regard.
>>260216068
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshi
"Shigeru Miyamoto stated that Nintendo had wanted Mario to have a dinosaur companion ever since the first release Super Mario Bros.; however, it was not possible because of the limitations of the NES"
>>260215842
>Miyamoto wanted Yoshi in since SMB
That doesn't mean that Yoshi was a good addition to the series or even the game.
>>260216803
>it was not possible because of the limitations of the NES
Nintendo: bullshitting even back then.
>>260217373
It wasn't possible the way they wanted it
![KuriboShoeMario[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pdER6Jt.jpg "KuriboShoeMario[1].jpg")
>>260217373
They even did it themselves.
>>260216898
I know, but then you would've not liked the whole Super Mario series to begin with instead of just SMW
>>260217373
To be fair, those aren't near as fun or flexible as Yoshi
>>260215170
It's ok. I too was a newfag once upon a time.
>>260218057
>a victory's a victory, no matter how small
>>260217373
Someone had the sprite sheet thing for SMB, they filled the fucker to capacity.
>>260216068
I remember I saw it one of the Iwata Asks interviews, I don't remeber if it was for NSMBWii or Galaxy 2, but I saw it
>>260217865
>To be fair, those aren't near as fun or flexible as Yoshi
Yoshi is a penalty-free hit. He isn't fun.
>literally just fly all the way through any open level
lmao
>playing mario
are you literally 9 years old???
>>260220749
No actually I'm figuratively 9 years old.
>>260221219
underageb&
>>260217373
Rom sizes were tiny back when SMB was made, the game nearly filled it to capacity.
SMB3 could have had him, but they probably figured Mario had enough power ups at that point.
The Yoshi thing was also documented in the Mario Mania guide back in '91. Mario was also originally going to have a gun and always be in Super state.
>>260222416
Oh yeah, and the guide also predicted the Metal Mario power-up years before Super Mario 64 was made public.
>>260215016
>haigure
Fuck, remember when that shit was actually banned on /d/ temporarily?
Hammer suit best suit
>>260219890
You still have to build speed and some open levels don't allow that easily.
Also by the time you can fly though the stage freely chances are you'd be good enough to just beat the levels that let you do that anyway.
Just saying, in my 1st romps for SMW I wasn't good enough to fly freely.
>>260222965
How could anyone find this hot? Scat, piss, I can kind of understand. Hypnosis? Easily. Mind break, rape, okay. Haigure? What the fuck is this shit?
>>260225181
>We haven't got it back
>We get boomerang instead
I'd like boomerang more if we could throw more than 1 at a time at least, but meh.
So what suits would you like to see /v/?
-Sumo suit?
-Charging chunk suit?
-Fire bros suit? (don't say just use a fire flower, this could be an upgrade to the flower like Tanooki is to power leaf)
-Magkioopa suit?
-Bullet Bill suit? (holy shit this would be awesome)
-Yoshi suit? (why haven't they done this?)
>>260225338
You must have been a horrible player, as all you have to do is tap away from the direction you are flying every few seconds to stay in flight indefinitely. The first level where you get the cape even has a large open field to let you practice for as long as the timer holds out.
Am I the only one who liked to have the feather power up in SMW and go to that one star stage composed 99% of breakable blocks and glitch myself into the walls?
>do the spin jump that breaks the block under you
>the cape spins the blocks near you
>keep going down in a diagonal direction
>suddenly Mario flies through the blocks and ends up inside the wall
>lose a life but it's hilarious
>>260209480
Browowowow
>>260226209
>You must have been a horrible player
Holy fuck. How can you just say that about someone?
>>260226443
You must be a horrible poster.
>>260225618
It's a type of clothing fetish
>>260226209
or he was a fucking kid like the rest of us
>>260222965
To be fair, it is a really stupid fetish, even by stupid fetish standards.
>>260212626
Now you've just reminded me of all those new levels I could be playing through.
>>260226534
It's a type of mental illness.
>>260227031
So is being homosexual, like you are.
>>260227337
I hate faggots more than anyone on this board, probably even this site. I am not homosexual.
>>260213530
SMW doesn't feel like a proper 2D Mario to me. There's too much that Mario can do in that game. It takes away a whole lot of the simplicity nearly every other 2D Mario has.
SMB3 feels like Mario perfected. Doesn't stray too far from the original concept while buffing everything great the first game did (secrets, power-ups, variety). World is fantastic, just a bit too unique for a 2D Mario, at least in my opinion.
>>260227560
I sort of felt the same way too for awhile.
Then New Super Mario Brothers happened and I wished it wasn't so simple and straightforward.
Be careful what you wish for, I guess.
>>260227445
I thought I was the only one
>>260211513
Too bad the physics are even worse than SMW.
hey guys
guysSonic is better
>>260227560
SMB3 has way more going on than SMW.
>>260227830
But the New series gave Mario a lot new moves. Triple jumps, wall jumping, the air spin.
>>260228973
and most of that barely comes into play except in specific situations.
Hell, most of the secret exits/areas are just blocked by small areas you need the mini-mushroom to reach. No fancy gymnastics needed outside of a few ghost house exits.
>>260229229
That's SMW in a nutshell and why I don't like it
Yeah, spinjumping is there, but you never need to use it to progress at any point in the whole game, you could and I'm sure people did beat the game without even knowing it exists
Yoshi and the powerups are the same, they are all chaff that aren't really factored in in the actual level design
>>260228179
There aren't many of us left.
>>260229229
>Hell, most of the secret exits/areas are just blocked by small areas you need the mini-mushroom to reach.
So SMW then? Just that instead of mini mushrooms you need the feather.
The feather lets you skip nearly every level without even having to die 10 times first, in that way SMW is way more casual than the newer Mario games, that's fucking pathetic.
>>260226538
Pretty much this.
>>260229640
Not even in /pol/ :^(
>>260229805
I mean I was 5 when SMW came out for me.
>>260229805
Sorry, you have to had been a 'special' child to not be able to push left every few seconds.
>>260229761
They're sometimes out of sight and not obvious as fuck in SMW though
>>260230086
>He thinks young kids are good at games
Sorry but you aren't as good as you remember, having seen so many kids playing games I can tell you that so many of them suck at them
>>260230085
>tfw been playing SMW since you were 2
I learned how to vidya way before Iearned how to do most things
>>260208872
Why does the best item in Mario need defending?
>>260230614
Because it's a horribly balanced crutch that breaks the game.
>>260230287
Yeah nah, grade school kids were beating NES games back before you were even a sperm. Pushing left every few seconds in a steady rhythm takes way less effort than that.
>>260226191
Ninji suit: You can hide in shadows, your running changes to little hops like with the frog suit, and you get an extra high straight up jumps.
Rocky Wrench: Put on the goggles and you're reduced to little size and can throw a wrench. Also, you can hop into itty bitty manhole covers like in Sunshine
How did yoshi power ups in SMW work? Just different colored shells had different effects when in their mouth?
>>260231336
Yes, except colored Yoshis treated every shell like it was their color. Yellow Yoshis for example always stomped no matter what shell they had.
>>260231075
Yes but it's alsofun
>implying smb2 isnt best one
>>260226191
Rock Mario
>Start off running slower and are harder to slow down but damage enemies for a slight speed loss when you're running fast enough
>Fall and sink faster
I'd take anything that is original and not based on an enemy at this point.
>>260231758
>His leg is coming out of his crotch
>>260231758
Nah, it's pretty good but not the best. Too short and a bit too much rehashing for my liking. Also, why is Luigi so fucking useless in that game?
>>260231336
Blue shells gave Yoshi wings for unlimited flight until he automatically swallowed the shell (could spit it out and eat it again).
Yellow shells gave you a near useless stomp attack.
Red shells let Yoshi spit out three fireballs.
The colored Yoshis gained their respective color shell power with any color shell (and combined them in case of a blue Yoshi eating a yellow shell).
Blue Yoshi+Cape Mario was the most broken thing in the game as you had unlimited flight and didn't even have to jab on the button as long as you held the Y button down after you jumped.
>>260208872
>cape feather
>much more fun to use
>not too overpowered (hitting an obstruction meant it would completely stop you)
>better axis of movement (could glide on more angles)
>required the same running time before takeoff in comparison to raccoon suit
>Raccoon suit
>Harder to control with
>less control in-air
>could easily fly upwards with your chest facing a wall
>less seldom dropped than cape feather
Be realistic, OP. Cape feather was a clear winner from the start of this thread.
>>260231758
Peach was fairly broken.
>>260211071
>Air inflation
Worst time of inflation.
>She's being gagged with a gag with holes in it
Even dumber.
>>260232232
But you have three other characters to use, you are never forced to use most broken one
>>260232467
Toad master race.
>>260232467
The fact that a game takes no steps to prevent you from using the cheapest tactic is a flaw, especially since this isn't an RPG or whatever.
>>260222965
It was flooding the board worse than futa and it was REALLY stupid.
So to everyone who is complaining that the feather ruined SMW's challenge, you admit mario used to be challenging, right?
Every time I complain about new mario games being too easy, there's always someone who says "HURRRR MARIO WUZ NEVAR HARD!!!"
>>260208872
>Read Nintendo Power as a kid
>See Super Mario World being revealed for the first time to US
>See Feather Power-up
>Thought it was a popsicle
>>260232058
Cape Mario + Blue Yoshi + Blue shell= broken game
>mfw I realized this
Should Mario and Luigi as a standard now have visually different variants of the same outfit
ie: "Kitsoon" Luigi compared to Tanooki Mario
>>260234454
The only hard Mario game was the JP SMB2 for all the wrong reasons.
SMW being easy in itself still doesn't mean the feather making the game even EASIER wasn't a thing.
>>260209401
The Tanooki suit in SMB3 actually had limitations aside from the occasional Power-Wing.
With the cape in SMW you could just hold it like a parachute behind you, keep tapping backwards with an easy-as-fuck rhythm and traverse the entire fucking level. Plus you could spin rapidly killing anything around you with the cape whereas the Tanooki tail was slower & had a delay to keep you from always spinning to kill everything around you.
The cape in SMW was total casual mode.
>>260235196
Why does Luigi's not sound phonetically the same as his counterpart whereas Mario keeps his?
>>260210362
You forgot
>I suck so much at Mario games tier
>Golden leaf
>>260235854
fuck off weeaboo
>>260235979
I'm a Luigi fan. I demand L justice!
>>260231758
It's my favorite, but I don't think anyone would call it the best since it's mechanics are from another pre-existing game.
I still personally think it has most fun mechanics of any game ever.
>>260231758
No many how old I get, I can't unsee leg-penis.
>>260235176
>Cape Mario + Blue Yoshi + Blue shell= broken game
Blue Yoshi + Any shell you retard.
That's the entire point of the blue Yoshi.
>>260232058
and if Yellow Koopas return to their shell once, you get a rainbow shell with all 3 of those.
>>260236519
I dunno, mang, if you spit a red shell it becomes fireballs and can't get it back.
>>260236994
For blue Yoshi, red > blue = green.fuck yellow
>>260236994
Just eat Green Shells and perch somewhere to duck and spit.
>>260237389
>Just eat Green Shells and perch somewhere to duck and spit.
Agreed. blue = green > red because infinite reuse.
>>260237349
>fuck yellow
seconding this part though
>>260231758
Super Mario Advance disgusted me with all the changes they made to make an easy game even more easy. Adding voices made it even worse.
At least they added one new boss.
