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Never thought I'd see the day when I agree with Arin but fuck.
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Never thought I'd see the day when I agree with Arin but fuck.
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Yeah, but the thing is here the whore he's referring to DID do it. Everything that she was accused of DID happen. There is no "if's" or "maybe's". Nobody is exaggerating shit.
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The evidence is there but you just don't want to look.
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>>259314345
>suddenly
The internet has always been happy to ruin a person's life over speculation and hearsay. It is, in fact, a favorite tactic of the social justice brigade. Like Donglegate!
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>>259314697
where is it?
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Is there even any proof she did it outside of her admission on twitter?

I mean an admission is great and all but still.

I mean if we're gonna get mad at SJW's for taking girls' word for it we shouldn't do the same thing.
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>>259314345
Go away Arin.
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>>259314724
>Donglegate

For fuck's sakes that made me fucking mad. Fuck the bitch who got Will Wheaton fired.
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>>259314762
I dunno maybe in one of the ten thousand threads that have been posted since this shit happened, are you literally blind? No you choose to ignore it and act like it never happened.
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>>259314869
>An admission is great and all but still

There is no 'but still'

I doubt anybody has the kind of leverage over her right now to force a false confession. A confession is damning evidence and she outright said it herself.

'but still' my ass.
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>>259315719
See, but there is a but still. Because basically if the admission is all we have, then like, the week of shooting off about it before that was just us being twats.
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nigga Phil can just turn the screen off

"ruin someone's life" pssh.
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>>259314904
>donglegate

Really I mean that's all that needs to be said here
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I agree with him.

But, no one is trying to ruin her life. She's faking most of these attacks and there's tons of evidence supporting that.

Not only that, it's not what she MAY have done, she's proven to have done so.
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>>259314724

They hate when it happens to them.

Yet people like the Firefox CEO and the Donglegate shit is fair game for them.

They're only getting a taste. Do not push the straight white man to a corner, because when we lash out at anyone who does us wrong, we explode. See: WW1-WW2
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>>259314345
>she ruined other people's life by doxxing and sabotaging their game jam project
>not deserve it
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>>259314724

It's not just the internet its the entire media: Kony '12.
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>>259316736
>people like the Firefox CEO
Long story short?
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Arin's being no better than the myriad of journalists who zealously defended her.

I mean really, wailing, "Oh please just leave it be!" In the face of overwhelming evidence that the attacks are warranted is no better than defending the person being attacked.
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>>259317317
Firefox CEO got fired because he didn't support the gay movement. He was replaced by a faggot. Sites like OkCupid simply refused to allow Firefox users because "muh support"
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>>259314345
I dunno, why do people think we should be lenient on people who do terrible shit just because they're women?
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>>259317317
He supported anti-gay marriage causes I think
Loads of Firefox employees went on strike until he left.
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>>259317317
Mozilla hired a CEO who had conservative right-wing personal politics (though no indication that this had any impact on his behavior as a CEO). SJWs hounded Mozilla until they fired him.
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>>259314345
it's not something she may have done, it's something she did.
also and i find this really important to stress most of our attack after the first day or two were not against her but against the five guys and the industry, but 4chan is a blunderbuss, everyone is gonna get a little shit on them, and if you cry about it you're just making yourself into a bigger target, making you end up with even more shit on you
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>>259314650

Where's the proof?

Seriously, has any of the Five Guys admitted to it?
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>>259317502
>myriad of
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>>259318019
okay?
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>>259318187
That's not how you use that word.
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>>259317561
>Loads of Firefox employees went on strike until he left.
Not true at all. He was actually considered an excellent CEO who did not let his personal politics influence his business practices. Employees actually defended him.
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>>259318246

okay?
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>>259318246

Yes it is.
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>>259318421
Faggot
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you didnt see her replying to Chloe? literally saying that she slept with her boyfriend.
And talking to the people she has been accused of sleeping with with tweets like "love you" "miss u boo"
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>person does something wrong
>4chan goes after person rightfully
>a few loud faggots go too far by randomly adding dubious (almost surely false) accusations to the person's known wrongdoings
>all of person's detractors lose credibility as a result of this faggotry
>history is written such that person did nothing wrong because everyone thinks the people attacking the person are liars

Every time.
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>>259314762
How do you think this whole thing started? It wasn't just /v/ deciding to shit on someone one day out of the blue. Zoe's ex posted a load of chatlogs on a massive blog detailing everything. He's the one that called her Five Guys Burger and Fries first for fucks sake.
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>>259318663

Link.
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>>259318019
>>259318246
It's a valid usage.
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>>259318246
myr·i·ad
?mir??d/
literary
noun
noun: myriad; plural noun: myriads

1.
a countless or extremely great number.
"networks connecting a myriad of computers"
synonyms: a multitude, a large/great number, a large/great quantity, scores, quantities, a mass, a host,

You wanna rethink that one, champ?
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>>259317913
>admitting to it
>Wanting SJWs on your ass
Sure thinh.
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>>259318750

Why are you in this thread if you haven't even heard of the primary source material that started the controversy?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+zoe+post
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>>259318524
>>259318782
>>259318784
You don't put "of" after it, champ!
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she literally admitted to it. how stupid are these fucks?
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>>259318750
http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/

This is the thing that started it all.
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>>259314345
Is this have something to do with his cake-faced wife?
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>>259317275
KONY 2012 did a fine job destroying itself all on its own. PROTIP, if you're pushing a humanitarian cause, using donations to provide funds to the Ugandan military is a shit way to go about it
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>>259314345

is the rabid SJW faggot brigade not part of the internet because that's pretty much all they do.
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>may have happened
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>>259319000
you do if you're american actually, it's like "going to the hospital" vs "going to hospital" it's american vs british, not right vs wrong.
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>>259319073
Research is for losers.
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>>259314345
>MAY have

There's no maybe about this and anyone pretending this is some hypothetical witch hunt is a worthless shill and an idiot. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a pre-written tweet that Arin's Polaris overlords told him to post.
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>>259319000
>got blown the fuck out
>didn't even read the posts
>keeps posting anyway
>wastes triples on a dumb post like this

Read a book.
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>>259318945

>zoe post
>proof

im with you guys and hope she and the industry get blasted, but fuck if thats real proof
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>>259319186
No.
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>>259319000

Every fiber of my being wants to explain how it's still grammatically correct, but your trips have convinced me I was wrong.
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>>259314345
I fucking knew Arin would butt in on this.

Except he's on the wrong side.
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>May
Don't we have proof? Isn't that what all this is about?
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>>259317530
>>259317687
It's like that 1984 by Orwell.
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>>259318875
Didn't Grayson admit to being in a sexual relationship with her? I might be mistaken as there is a lot of shit flying around /v/ right now, but I am almost positive he confirmed a relationship via twitter
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>>259319186

I'm American and I've never heard 'myriad of X'. It's always been 'myriad X'
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>>259317687
>>259317530

Holy shit what

Fuck everything, neo liberalism is pure cancer and prevents any chance of actual civilized societies
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are you guys this stupid? Arin and Jon are spamming their shit, opening thei own threads and whatnot in here, wake the fuck up.
Arin and Jon pls go.
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>>259319260
I'm not wrong though.
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>>259314724
Funny that you mention it, but this shit happens more from SJWs and other progressive faggots thinking they are doing the world a favor by trying to destroy someone who disagrees with them, like that psycho bitch who took a guy to court for disagreeing with her for Doxxing someone else on twitter.
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>>259319419

Yeah, you keep thinking that buddy.
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>>259319000
You can, brah. "Myriad" can be a noun or an adjective. "Myriad of journalists" is "<noun> of <nouns>". Like "bowl of dicks", where both "bowl" and "dicks" are nouns. "Myriad journalists" is "<adjective> <noun>", like "giant faggot" (i.e. you).
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>>259314345
>Whoa, stop picking on Zoe, what the fuck is wrong with you? She admitted it and all, but stop!
>FUCKING WIZARDCHAN I CANT BELIEVE THOSE PERMAVIRGINS WOULD DARE MAKE FUN OF ZOE! THOSE TWO POSTS OUT OF AN ENTIRE WEBSITE ARE ENOUGH TO RAID THEM!
SJWs at work.
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I'm going to keep posting this because it is the end game action to win this "war".

Mail your governors. Mail your congressmen. Mail the FBI.

SJWs are a cult and they need to be recognized as one. They have brainwashed hundreds, sent death threats to children and are using unethical harassment and blackmail to gain control of the media.
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>>259319253

"The Zoe Post" is the link that >>259318750 asked for, though.
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>>259314345
>Why does the internet suddenly think it's okay to ruin a person's life for something they MAY have done?
Dunno, Arin. Maybe you'd like to answer that question having first hand experience?
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all of this could've been avoided if she didn't do porn

or slept with the journalists

either, really
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>>259319505
I'll keep being correct
>>259319525
No
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>>259319000
Go away Britain, you haven't been relevant in centuries.
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>>259317687
>SJWs hounded Mozilla until they fired him

This is why I laugh at
"Why are you harassing Zoe?"

SJW have no sense of irony at all..
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>>259314345
The only "may" here is that Phillip Grouper MAY have hacked himself. Everything else is "did".
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>>259319253
I dunno, these chatlogs of her discussing having sex with a married man who happened to be her boss seem pretty good proof she did it.
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>>259319639
How can they have a sense for higher human communication when they

aren't human at all?
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>>259319379

I voted for Obama twice.

You trying to call me cancer?

Why would I vote for a millionaire? Or an old guy who wants to bomb everything?
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>>259319000
Yes you do, "champ". Nice trips tho
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>>259319595
>WE ARE /V/ WE DO NOT FORGET AT ALL
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>>259319598

The only thing her not doing porn would have saved is my goddamned lunch from vacating my stomach.
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>>259314345
Because there's evidence in the form of chat log confessions and a video if her and the guy she cheated with getting close at a convention before they supposedly banged. Breakup was several weeks later.
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>>259314724
this
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>>259319578

my bad, thought that was supposed to be the hard proof of anything
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>>259319598

>Expecting women to keep their legs shut.
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>>259319624
I'm American but nice try. :)
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what the fuck is this about? first time on /v/ in a week
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This the new game grumps conspiracies thread?
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You guys have no proof, even the "positive reviews" that are mentioned in all your infographs do not exist. And the "exposure" is just her being mentioned along with other indie devs in a reality and that 50 games list, both of which prove nothing.

The award for whin one of the 5 guys was a judge would be something, but oh, you have no proof that she slept with that guy either.

Once again /v/ is full of shit.
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>>259319598
She's entitled to do shitty cheesecake nerd-bait nudes if she wants. That has no impact on any of this.
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>>259319345
That's because youre an idiot
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Someone give me that pic where she admits it, or that compilation pic that flat out proves it
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>>259319751
No. You don't.
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NOT VIDEO GAMES
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fucking christ this place is unbearable right now
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>>259319000

what possible definition for "myriad" are you using that you think you wouldn't need an "of" after it?

a myriad of games
a multitude of games
a wide array of games
a large number of games
a myriad games (???)
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>>259319943

You're*
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>>259319943

> youre
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Serious question, though. Why does anyone care and what's the BFD?
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>>259319617
Fuck off idiot
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>>259319345
where do you live? it's very common down south
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>>259319746

> He thinks Obama wasn't a millionaire in 2012!

I'd love nothing more than to see leftists rounded up into concentration camps. We'd be doing the world a favor by getting rid of minds so apt to sycophancy.
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>>259319703
Ayyyyy the nigga didn't reply to your post, kek.
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>>259319703
also there's this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ReC-GtLfc
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>>259320091
DAYUM
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>>259319617
>Myriad as a noun is over 400 years old
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>>259319963
noun
1.
a countless or extremely great number.
"networks connecting a myriad of computers"
Yeah, you do.
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>ruining her life
nigga i didnt make zoe and phil frame /v/ for hacking their stupid ass site and releasing stupid ass information.

they ruined their own lives.
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>>259319703

you understand how this is still not hard evidence right? How anyone could dismiss this as fake right?

in this whole scenario you guys dont have real, tangible proof. A lot of screen caps and he said she said, sure. But nothing that will amount to the results you desire.

best of luck though

>inb4 im a shill

ive been here following this for 3 days now hoping for that final straw... all we got is more "proof"
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>>259320024
I went to a good school so I was actually taught unlike you.
>>259320094
>getting heated
>>259320215
I'm not wrong. Nice try!
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>>259320024

The only time I hear of "myriad" without the preposition afterwards is in the phrase "there's a myriad reasons."

I don't know if that's proper English, though. It's just a phrase I hear a lot.
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>>259319870
acknowledge jontron
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>>259318875
So then...there's no proof?
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>>259314650
Except nobody but Zoe and the guys supposedly involved know if it actually even happened of not. So you're still advocating ruining someone's life over a rumor. A rumor that really nobody should have given a shit about in the first place considering someone's personal life is nobody's business but their own.
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>>259317913
Nathan Grayson confirmed his relationship with her. That Abbott guy pretty much did too. The other 3 are a given now.
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>>259320001
>/v/
>talking about vidya
pick one
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>>259319746

>why should i vote for a millionaire
>voted Obama

gold
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>>259320287
Neither does she.

Where's her proof of anything? Anything at all?
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Zoe Quinn has been harassed and doxed, exactly what she has done or instigated to have done to others
this is karmic retribution at it's finest
fuck anyone who feels a minute sense of sympathy for her
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>>259320246
No.
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>>259320024

myriad in its common usage is an adjective, basically meaning "very many".

So you would say you have played myriad games and found none to have the heart and compassion of Depression Quest.
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>>259317913
Grayson admitted to dating her briefly, via Totilo's denial that any impropriety took place. The other guys have been quiet.

But it's irrelevant whether they admit it, because Zoe herself did in the chat logs posted by her ex, Eron.
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>>259320285

and she's getting paid to do so
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>>259314345
>ruin someones life
>tons of people are defending the 'victims'
>Zoe is making more money on Patreon from all of this
uhh huuuhhh
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>>259320359
And?
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>>259320313
>I went to a good school so I was actually taught unlike you.

no messing around, just heading straight to the personal attacks

I respect that my good sir *tips*
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>>259314345
I'm pretty sure that she ruined her own life when she decided to make a living off of conning people out of their money and then mixed sex and her career together for the public to see.
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>>259320287
Nobody has any tangible proof. I just wish hosting service would give some kind of statement about Phil's hack so something would happen.
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>>259320458
That's not a counter to an argument. I post a direct quote from the dictionary and you still won't accept that you're wrong.
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>>259320451
>and doxed
nope she doxed herself, the harassing was minimal and necessary.
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>>259319000
trips confirmed
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>>259320287
Why would someone lie about something like that? Especially since the document is fucking 20 million pages long.

Also see >>259320359
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>>259320569
Epic
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>>259319867

The woman who developed Depression Quest allegedly cheated on her ex-boyfriend multiple times, slept with game journalists (ostensibly for favors like positive coverage of her game), and lied about everything.

This is also drawing further attention to a bunch of other shit she allegedly did in the past, like faking harassment campaigns in order to get sympathy. I'm sure someone will post all the details.

Also she did porn, but hey, apparently that's "private" even though the pictures are professionally shot and commercially available.
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>watergate MAY have happened
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>>259320342
there is, they just won't talk about it. They won't deny either, and since we are on the internet and not in some bullshit tribunal you're guilty 'til evidence proves the contray.
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>>259320359
>The other 3 are a given now.
one of those guys (kyle?) said he never had sex with zoe and that there was no proof of it, both zoepost and InternetAristocrat backed him up
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>>259320494
>But it's irrelevant whether they admit it, because Zoe herself did in the chat logs posted by her ex, Eron.

>A woman that will cheat on her boyfriend for months before he finds out wouldn't possibly lie to her boyfriend
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>complains about people ruining sjws lives
>sjws have attacked a 10 year old, Zoe has attacked people have suffered from depression.
>there is proof that Zoe is a sleazeball

What happened to the Egoraptor we used to know?
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How does one go about reporting a Patreon for illicit content or breach of contract and violation of the rules?

Because you need to offer something tangible each month for a Patreon to be legit. Twitter shitposts aren't a tangible thing.
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>>259320657

u 2
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>>259319121
Another PROTIP, when you're running some sort of shitty charity, don't go fucking insane and run around naked in the street.
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>>259320720
The Egoraptor you thought you knew never existed m8
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>>259320662
>allegedly
Stop.
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>>259320624
I'm not wrong. Thanks for trying though!
>>259320743
Even more epic, kiddo.
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>>259320634
you can't prove that
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>>259320542
And what? I fucking just gave you some proof.
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>>259320494
>it's irrelevant whether they admit it, because Zoe herself did in the chat logs

ONE SIDE OF THE STORY, HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Just because I said I fucked Jennifer Lawrence and your mom at the same time last night doesn't mean it actually fucking happened.
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>>259320313
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myriad
>Recent criticism of the use of myriad as a noun, both in the plural form myriads and in the phrase a myriad of, seems to reflect a mistaken belief that the word was originally and is still properly only an adjective. As the entries here show, however, the noun is in fact the older form, dating to the 16th century. The noun myriad has appeared in the works of such writers as Milton (plural myriads) and Thoreau (a myriad of), and it continues to occur frequently in reputable English. There is no reason to avoid it.
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>>259320686
What would make you think she would tell him she cheated on him with more people than she actually did?
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>>259320683
yeah he's clean, basically we know about the identity of 3 of the five. 2 confessed.
the other 2 are were non confirmed guesses, 1 of them was apparently the wrong guess.
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>Eric Kain writes an article about emulation
>Ben Kuchera tries to harm his career, hurting his livelihood (not SJW related, but the type of extreme idiot you'd have to be)

>Other male game jo0urnalist I forget the name of sexually harasses a woman
>he is fired, blackballed from the journalism industry in games, and this harms his livelihood

>slut who hasn't even made a real game is a slut, her sluttery includes her own married boss and journalists
>WOW WHY ARE YOU GUYS ATTACKING HER THIS COULD HARM HER
>go so far as to false flag hack yourselves while keeping access to twitter conveniently, and the access information pointing towards just outside of LA on a static corporate IP
>due to the way cloudflare works you would need access from one of polytron corps own computers or maybe Phil's

Honestly the irony is amazing.
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>>259320636

Believing it's true doesn't mean its fucking proof. I think she did it too, but I can't prove shit. This will tide over becuase no one can prove shit (as of now).
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>>259314345
Did he delete this Tweet? I don't see it
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>>259320662
>ostensibly for favors like positive coverage of her game
I hope none of you guys actually believe this.
Or what, do you think journos are fucking all of the artsy indie game devs? Is gaming journalism just one big orgy?
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>>259320569
>i post fedora memes

You're as bad as the euphoric fellow in the picture, anon.
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>>259320686
Why the hell would she say she cheated on more guys then she did?
In the facebook posts the BF showed she was trying to convince him to stay not leave
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>>259320287
>>259320189

Lol the nigga 5 posts above you linked a Video proof on that. How is that irrefutable evidence? Jesus I see why SJW are on full retard mode always now.
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you idiots fucked up by picking on a girl. you know people are going to say you're sexist, true or not, and the actual issue isn't even talked about. You should have expected all of this. I mean just amateur hour
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>>259320849
No.
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>>259320831
she released a number of a gas station, then said her dad got threatening calls, when people told her the number isn't even hers she deleted the post "doxing" her.
this is all documented.
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>>259320686

Why would she tell her ex-boyfriend that she cheated on him with a bunch of people if it weren't true? That's not a lie that would benefit her unless she foresaw the leak and the entire subsequent controversy and thought it would get her more sympathy than hatred. That's a stretch.

Basically you make no sense.
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>>259320838
That she had relationships with a few people. So what? Just because she knew/was involved with someone does not mean she gained anything from it.

>>259320868
You've never dealt with a woman in your life, have you? When they're pissed off and in defense mode, they'll say stupid shit. She could have easily named more people than she was actually involved with just to make her boyfriend feel worse.
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>>259320357
>Except nobody but Zoe and the guys supposedly involved know if it actually even happened of not. So you're still advocating ruining someone's life over a rumor.
Totilo made a fucking post about this, the Kotaku fuck whatever his name was admitted to his boss that he fucked her, no-one's even covering it up nigga they're just saying not to talk about it
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>>259314345
>Max Temkin is falsely accused of rape
>SJWs try to literally ruin his life
>Zoe Quinn is confronted with a reasonable amount of evidence for adultery and getting a feminist game jam shut down
>STOP OPPRESSING A STRONG WOMYN U SHITLORD
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>>259320839
One of the guy's girlfriends posted about it as well.
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>>259320720
TBH, as much as I like to believe that whatever we know is public knowledge, it really isn't.

4chan has always been a warning trigger for any "famous" internet celebs out there, they admit to going on reddit, but never so much as mention 4chan or even acknowledging that they know of it.

So when shit like this happens, they tend to disregard anything from 4chan, in hopes that no one finds out that they do know of 4chan.
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>>259320826
>kiddo
>>259320972
4 u
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>>259320429

Where's your proof Obama is a millionaire? He only makes 300,000 a year as a president, and after expenses, at best, he would have only come close to breaching the million mark in 2012
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and here is part 2 of that lookup
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>>259321006
People making it about sex are in the wrong and Tumblr is the only one doing it.

Tumblr is the most sexist and misogynistic site on the internet.

They're also a cult with harmful intent that take aggressive, terrorist behaviors against children.
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>>259320450

lel, what does she need to prove? You're the accusers ya twat
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>>259320839
One of them admitted it and another partially admitted it.
Why would she lie about the extra 3?
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Remember, it's OK to ruin a guy's life if he's accused of rape without proof, but if a SJW cheats and fucks journalists who then promote her products, you need undeniable proof.

Anyway you retards, we have proof that she fucked the guys. Her ex provided plenty of it and she's not denying it.

And how can you people be so fucking stupid that you only consider them admitting it to be proof? Of course they aren't going to fucking admit to being corrupt. Why the hell do we suddenly need impossibly specific proof? We know she fucked people who advertised her stuff without admitting that they were in a relationship. That's all the proof you need.

>So what if you caught the murder on tape? The murderer says he didn't do it so you can't prove it!
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>>259321106
You're being willfully ignorant. There's no helping you.
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>>259321181
You know that ironic shitposting is still shitposting, right? Of course you do.
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>>259320974
Guys I totally had sex with Nicki Minaj. I said I did it so it must be true.
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>>259320938
Well I find it nearly impossible for someone like her boyfriend to lie that much. The webpage is massively huge and it'd take an insane person to lie about all of it, confirmed or not.
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>>259320287
I was tipped off to the zoe post being true when she laughed at one of the five guy's ex's on twitter. That was a pretty good clue. Steven Totilo tweeting a statement that the time Zoe and Nathan Grayson had sex was after he wrote about her was another pretty big smoking gun.

It takes a special brand of denial to believe Zoe didn't have sex with any journalists and she's just randomly become some kind of hate figure for evil internet sexists flooding from Wizardchan and /V/.
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>>259320324
"Myriad" is both a noun and an adjective. Both "a myriad of games" and "myriad games" are grammatically correct phrases.
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>>259321171
>>Zoe Quinn is confronted with a reasonable amount of evidence for adultery and getting a feminist game jam shut down
AND an accusation of sexual assault, which the hivemind then proceeded to victim blame and shame because the accuser was male and the accusee an infallible goddess
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...and finally part 3, wherein we see the desperation of the industry for this to go away

I sure hope the head mod doesn't hack me next :^O
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>>259321290
quality post anon
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>>259320826
Prove that you're not wrong.
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>>259321106
>Just because she knew/was involved with someone does not mean she gained anything from it.

/v/ is trying to push the whole "corruption in journalism" shit just because some people think it's a more legitimate complaint. That's dumb though. Honestly, the real source of all the outrage is the cheating and, to an even greater extent, all the lying. If you've been reading these threads, you know that the information exposed in "the Zoe post" is not the only awful shit that Zoe allegedly did.
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Well, I was one of the guys demanding to see proof, and I have to admit, I'm pretty fucking satisfied by that Facebook video. Logs are easy as fuck to fake, especially if you're in psycho-heartbroken-ex-boyfriend mode. Fake url's on vidoe are slightly more difficult, and much more unlikely.

Too bad he's always going to look like an asshole for airing dirty laundry. What he SHOULD have done is gone to a rival media website's editor and said, "hey, your chief competitor suffers from an obvious conflict of interest."
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>>259321281
i think she tweeted a few days ago that she admits having sex for publicity, but then again sjw can just say she just said it out of pressure or whatever
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>>259321376
I'm right. No need to prove it to some anonymous idiot on the internet.
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>>259321214
She needs to prove we're wrong.

We're walking into the room with mountains of evidence, witnesses, collaborating stories and a supporting cast of reputable people from the industry.

What does she have?

Because if the answer is "a vagina", I'll back down. If she admits that she can't fight back because she's a woman and too weak to defend herself, I'll apologize and let it all alone. Because then, finally, she'll be right.
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>>259321287
no, I'm not throwing guilt on someone with no actual proof. Just because one person says something does not fucking make it true.
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>>259320839
Context, anon. When you're in the middle of admitting to your partner that you cheated on them with five guys, you don't invent new guys for no reason. It serves no purpose.

But go ahead, wait for Joshua Boggs to make a statement, I'm sure he'll come clean any day now.
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>>259320932
What, so it's confirmed now that Phil did it himself?
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>>259321363
forgot the actual image teehee
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>>259321106
>Just because she knew/was involved with someone does not mean she gained anything from it.
we know she got publicity from them after the relationship started, you can argue that she got the publicity/awards because she deserved them and not because of the relationship and that's a fair argument, only it's completely irrelevant.
the issue is not the relationships, it's the fact nobody disclosed them, it's about journalistic ethics, it's about the appearance of malfeasance.
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>>259321106
Even more proof.

Now stop being a retard. You are an obvious SJW trying to not believe any of this is true.
>inb4 im just being logical here!!
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Sometimes I wonder why I come here.

You guys just want to demonize her because you can.

Admit it, you're only doing this for the approval of fellow internet strangers.
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>>259320945
Me neither. He tweeted about Zoe but not the specific post in the OP
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>>259321292
>Guys I totally had sex with some journalist.
Do you see how retarded that is to lie about?
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>>259314762

>latecomers complain about lack of information

the information exists, it's been posted in summaries, screencaps, youtube videos since this shit started nearly a week ago on both /pol/ and /v/

if you're not aware of it, or you're still ignorant of the happenings then it's not the result of lack of information
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>>259321478
are you only pretending? I hope so..
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>>259321292
That's a lie that benefits you
We're talking about a lie that would not benefit Zoe
It's a very simple concept, anon
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>>259320839
Do you have any idea what has happened in the last week? Any at all? Three sides of the event, (Zoe, her Ex and Grayson) and one side's employer (Grayson's boss at Kotaku) have all made statements confirming this happened.
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>>259321509

Someone post that pic from last year of Phil posting his very own twitter screengrab and pretending to be a pissed off fan.
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Why does it make me sad to know that eventually this whole fiasco will die down and become irrelevant?

I want it to keep happening. I want to see people continuing blowing the opposition the fuck out. Eventually, everyone is going to pull out and it'll all be over, solved or unsolved. That bothers me.
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>>259321458
If you're so confident in being right, surely you can provide some kind of proof, right? And if you're not trying to prove it to me, why are you still arguing?
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>>259314345
where are the people saying this over online rape accusations?
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>>259321013
I'm sorry, anon, but having a crush on your 6th grade English teacher does not make her an infallible authority on the English language.
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>>259314869
>oey vey goy wheres your peer reviewed government study with cited sources, video tape proof of the sex, and REAL PROOF

go back to /pol/ with your sophistry.
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>>259319906
>And the "exposure" is just her being mentioned along with other indie devs in a reality and that 50 games list, both of which prove nothing.

It's prove conflict of interest, you dumbass. Since she having sex to promote her stuff.


She also left with her boss.

Even through Her Ex corrected a few things, she is not off of the hook.
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>>259321775
Get SJWs approved legally as a cult.

That's an ending that everyone can love.
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she never said "no i didnt"

proof enough for me
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>>259314345
Her life isn't fucking ruined, what?
Yeah okay, HER WHOLE ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE IS RUINED. EVERYTHING'S OVER SHE SHOULD GIVE UP. SHE ONLY EVER MADE 1 GAME BUT SHE'LL NEVER MAKE ANOTHER NOW, WOE IS ME
No, ego. That's not how it works.
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>>259314345

Yeah, Hitler did nothing wrong!
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>>259321453

That was a fake tweet.

Come on, anon. She wouldn't let gaming's only female figure be torn away from the field so easily.
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Focus on shitaku, not the girl.
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>why does the internet think

Fuck off.
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>>259321616
>My industry friends

Fuck you, Arin. You don't have industry friends. You're not part of any industry.
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>>259320932
You forgot the time that guy said Felicia Day hadn't made any meaningful contributions to gaming and lost his job at Destructoid. Or the time Journalists got free PS3 for making promotional tweets, and Rab was fired from Eurogamer because one of them was a woman.
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>>259321369

I post images of people wearing fedoras instead of raising an actual argument

I too, remember when I used memes instead of contributing to conversations

:^)

Legit how much money have we raised for Fine young Capitalists?
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>>259321106
Don't you have anything better to do Zoe? It's Friday, go suck someone's dick for a free meal or something.
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>>259314345
Hitler did nothing wrong !! Jews made it up !

And you faggots adore this guy ?
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>>259321779
No need. I'm right. Why are you still arguing when you're wrong?
>>259321789
Epic
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>>259321795
I uh, is it a negative thing to want facts now?

This is like nigger tier proud to be stupid shit.
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>>259322013
Neither situation is going anywhere, so we might as well fuck with Zoe while we can.
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>>259322067

Based Rab.
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>>259321203
Retards are actively abusing her. Most people here are either trying to catalogue evidence on how games journalism is shit and corrupt or just laughing at the whole thing.
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>>259321509
it's pretty much certain that he did it himself,but no one has any hard proof, and until phil files a case, in which the forensics willd efinitely point towards phil doing it himself, i don't think any of us can prove anything. Hopefully the fucking company he's in does start something. Big chance though...

>>259321383
Yea.. they're going with that because they think it's the highest chances of watching things burn down. Not that they truly feel that corruption could be curbed. They just want to see everything burn.

>>259321292
So you did. Amazing.
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>>259321189

he made over 1.2 million before 2005 was over.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-barack-obama-made-his-fortune.html
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>>259321292
SJW Redditor detected.

Fuck off already we don't need you here.
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>>259322083

I'm supposed to raise an argument against a baseless personal attack?

>I d-d-did go to a good school, f-fuck you man!!!

nah, I'd rather tip my fedora. It's what I'm best at.
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>>259321203
>making it about sex

Is anyone actually doing that?

Yeah, I've seen people trying to make it about cheating, but that's NOT the same as making it about sex. She can have sex all she wants, but cheating is immoral behavior because it necessarily involves lying. If you don't think lying is immoral then you're just trying to be an edgy faggot and should leave the site until you turn 18.
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There are SO many shills ITT
holy shit, I went to play video games what happened?
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>>259322057
that was a post he retweeted
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>>259321189

In 2005 he had a 2 million book deal alone. And that's not even considering his years as a politician before then.

Come on, anon. You can't honestly believe that anyone on the ballot for the presidency is poor. They're NEVER poor. Even during the Great Depression the fucking candidates weren't poor.
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>>259322375

he probably spent all of that just to get elected. being prez really doesn't pay all that well. the clintons were completely broke by the time they left office.
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The relationships and the details of them are irrelevant. She could have fucked 50 industry guys for all I care.

It's merely symptomatic of the larger cancer that needs to be excised, which is going to be a long and painful operation. Devs, critics, and publisher PR all suckling at the same teat, getting cozy with one another, and giving preferential treatment to friends in their clique is what's broken.

Not the only thing that's broken, mind -- there's still the DMCA takedown that shouldn't be possible, and the Internet Archive removal, along with the fraudulent complaint to GamesNosh's hosting company. But fixing games media would go a long way to alleviating symptoms until these issues, too, can receive the chemo.
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>>259322207
/v/ isn't interested in destroying zoe because they're bored. I've been following this shit all week and the vast majority of people actively discussing it just want some fucking accountability.
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>>259321434

other guy here. Regardless of the video of the chat log, which is nice, it still doesn't prove any preferential treatment or corruption in game journalism aside from dick in vagina.
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>>259322527

Actually, it has NOTHING to do with the cheating either, you fucking child.

It's purely about the fact that she fucked a journalist for good press. That's it. That's the crux of this issue.
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>>259322189

We have facts. They haven't denied that they fucked. You're deliberately asking for "proof" that literally cannot exist without a time machine and mind reading skills. See >>259321281.
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>>259322870

You didn't read my post. I just said I've seen people trying to make it about the cheating.
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>>259314345
I didn't know the internet was some big mind controlling monster.
I though it was made up of people.
besides
if she didn't have so much shit lined up against her, ruining her life wouldn't be this easy.
If it's true that is.

Me?
I think she's dirty.
and i don't just mean the porn.
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So let me try to understand here.

The main controversy is that the woman who created Depression Quest slept with various game journalists so they would advertise her game, correct?

Why does this matter so much?

We've known for years that gaming journalism is a cesspool of shills ever since Kotaku became a Buzzfeed whore. Probably earlier than that. We know that these sort of incidents happen every week, and will keep on happening until gaming companies just decide to run journalism sites themselves (which gameinformer has shown us will happen).

So why make a big ol' fuss over this? Why not pool our resources into making a gaming journalism site that isn't a corporate asskissing whore?
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>>259322870

And her married boss for her job. That's pretty important too.

But all of THAT, even, is still a minor issue compared to the gross misconduct and bribery going on within every large gaming website. This is all just a convenient entry point for discussion, since no one would listen when we constantly tried to tell them that shit like IGN was basically selling reviews for adspace.
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>>259322693

Go google Obamas sponsors for his elections, the dude is not fucking strapped for cash lol.

But Mitt mcFuckhead is constantly shit on by the media so you gobbled it up. good job
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>>259319253
It's like everyone looked at that and was like "NOPE NOT REEDIN"

Its so painfully obvious that he's not lying in that post, but I guess it being 5k words and having dozens of chat logs is a deterrent for most.
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>>259314345

Any motive is enough to ruin a person's life if you can
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>>259322870
Idunno, I find it rather hilarious that a person lauded as a paragon of female virtue and morality in the indie game dev scene turns out to be a lying, manipulative asshole.
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>>259321775
We don't let the fires die. Every time the issue is brought up the fire rises.
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>>259314345
How many men in the game journalism industry have lost their job because they questioned a female on the internet?
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>>259323163

I guess it matters because it's a convenient package of damning facts, rather than just some "old man yells at cloud" bitching about the state of the industry. This is actual, hard proof.
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Who cares? Arin is not really relevant. Not only that but JonTron is way better and he IS on our "side."

Arin is even less relevant than Cliffy B (who is a huge faggot) and Sessler (who is a cokehead dipshit).

Nothing to see here. It's en vogue now to side with female gamers no matter what.
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as far as I'm concerned, the worst thing about all of this is that she came out and said you can't hold women accountable for doing what she did because "that's the definition of misogyny".

Like, seriously. She said that.
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>>259323163
Because now we have concrete proof to throw back in their faces. Also, not everyone knows how shitty sites like kotaku are, as reflected in the fact those sites still exist.

Furthermore, Zoe, Phil Fish, and Nathan Grayson are manipulative hypocritical fuckers, and this is karma finally coming to bite.
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>>259323353

it proves she fucked 5 guys, thats all, unfortunately.
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>>259314345
>being an arin fan boy

kill yourself
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>>259314345
i dont know about ruining someone's life, but they definitely ruined /v/
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>>259322852
No it doesn't "prove" corruption, but it does prove a conflict of interest. Enough to show that the integrity of the journalists in question is not being upheld.

It's the first step in proving corruption.
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