The day /v/ died
It died personally when I lost almost all interest in games. I went from hardcore video gamer to casual.
I loved video games but I just can't do it. Maybe its because of this SJW uprising but I just don't care all too much about video games.
Who cares about what gender does what?
Majority of doctors and nurses are females.
Why isnt there some shit about the lack of male doctors?
WHY PUT ALL THIS TIME AND EFFORT TRYING TO BRING ATTENTION TO SOMETHING LIKE FUCKING VIDEO GAMES?!
THERES MUCH MORE FUCKING IMPORTANT THINGS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD PUT THIS EFFORT INTO!
Fucking video games?! Fucking seriously?
Holy shit talk about first world problems, god fucking damn.
>>259300239
Women make up 90% of video game facts
>>259300239
>Farmville
>video games
>>259300239
>mobile
>games
I hate it when people count mobile casual shit and then go around and say "but ~50% of gamers are grills!"
companies know this is misleading and don't target real game to girls, there is nothing to fear
>>259300239
>45% of players are women
>only 2% of them make games
>they blame everyone for that apart from other womenmobile games shouldn't count though
>>259300239
Isn't there a startlingly similar statistic with regards to movie directors?
>>259300239
>This statistic only includes women who were the game director or lead designer
What. What about all the women who, you know, actually DO the designing not just the team leaders? Artists can be and are women. Writers can be and are women.
Fuck, whats even the source on that stat?
Source of pic
http://www.thefineyoungcapitalists.com/Voting
>Play Flappy Bird a few times then never again
>You can now state your occupation as Gamer
>>259301125
>implying that female designed games are superior to male designed games by virtue of a lack thereof
That is some faulty logic.
>>259300239
>>259301125
>These are the people /v/ supports
someone needs to make an image to debunk this
SPIDER SOLITAIRE DON'T COUNT THO
>>259301612
It'd be much funnier if several lead male programmers got sex change operations and said they were women and that statistic was bunk.
>But design 2% of the games
There is just about nothing stopping a woman from becoming successful in the gaming industry
It's not that the industry doesn't hire ladies, it's that ladies don't apply to the industry
>>259300607
why put effort into something when you can fake it? Most of these people I fucking noticed are just retards that got a degree in english or some useless degree, instead of a STEM or finance degree. So instead of fixing the solution, they cling onto something and show their degree has value, tumblr, video games, etc while waiting tables, or living off their trust funds.
90% of those 45% of gamers only need Farmville though. Why try and make womanly games for them?
>>259300239
>the future I chose
No, it isn't. I didn't choose to let a bunch of self-righteous feminazis that felt the need to invade MY hobby and suddenly claim that it's misogynistic because "Wow, these women didn't give a shit about video games until they realized that they could use it to further their cause", their cause, of course, being pushing their fucking agenda on every goddamn person on this planet.
I've been doing my best to ignore all of this garbage and simply enjoy video games, but this pandering shit is EVERYWHERE now. Everyone and their grandma is latching on to this "I'm a special, entitled snowflake and I need to represented properly in every medium!" mentality, and it's ruining fucking everything.
Equality is apparently only equal if you're forced to make design choices based on appealing to everyone. You're not allowed to make things that you want to make unless they appeal to EVERYONE who will ever play them.
Jesus Christ. People can call me a misogynist, insensitive, or whatever the fuck they want, but I'm going to teach my kids to stand up for themselves and not to back down to shit like this. I'm sure as hell not contributing to this bullshit.
>>259300239
>Women represent 45% of the video game playing public
>90% of those play exclusively free games on mobile
Oh yeah they ignore the qualititative side of statistics
>>259300239
/v/ has been supportive of this charity since the beginning of this debacle. Even when InternetAristocrat made the video he made the charity out to be innocent victims who only meant good.
>>259300239
>[Citation Needed]
>>259301874
YOU ALL REALIZE THAT THE ONLY REASON THESE WOMEN HAVE POWER IS BECAUSE YOU GIVE THEM ATTENTION.
IF MORE DESIGNERS SIAD "FUCK YOU, IT'S MY GAME, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T BUY IT CUNT," AND IF MORE GAMERS STOPPED ODNATING TO, BITCHING ABOUT, AND CREATING MEDIA SHITSTORMS ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS TRYING TO WHORE FOR ATTENTION, IT WOULD GO AWAY, BECAUSE THEY WOULD SEE NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION.
SERIOUSLY, WOMEN ALWAYS COMPLAIN ABOUT MATH AND ENGINEERING, BUT THEY DON'T BLAME THE PRESENT INDUSTRY, BUT THE TRAINING SYSTEM. SERIOUSLY, WE NEED TO SICK THESE WALKING VAGINAS AND THEIR CASTRATED WHITE KNIGHT ON THE TRAINING SECTOR AND UNIVERSITY PROGRAMS, NOT THE COMPANIES.
>>259301612
What needs debunking? The facts are true. What they're leaving out is the platform which these women play on, which is the mobile platform, a different market from the market they're whining is oppresing them (lol)
In the mobile gaming market women are actively targeted as an audience.
Use that as an argument instead of 'but they're not REAL gamurz', it debunks the entire fallacy that the industry is inherently 'misogynystic'.
Gaming has always been a male-dominated hobby (and still is outside of the mobile and social gaming market), only recently with the popularity of mobile gaming have women been catching up.
As another anon said, nothing is stopping women from taking more interest in the field of gaming.
>>259301962
good job anon your doing god's work.
It's a shame that their is literally no one to actually use common fucking sense anymore, or to be an outlet for actually people who play games. it makes me wonder where the Fuck did video games stop being about you know the games. and turn into this SJW jerk off industry
>>259297695
And we've got waifu faggots throwing money to these people
>>259302660
The major problem is, if they do that those women will cry they are being oppressed and tumblr, SJW, Kotaku and shit will flock to their rescue and throw shit all over the game and very few people will end up buying it. Once they get you, anon, there is no good way out
>>259300607
>first world problems
>>259300642
>>259300239
OH WE GOT PLAYED
PLAYED LIKE A FIDDLE
OOOHHH
A vote for them is a vote against cunts like Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian + shit websites like Kotaku and RPS, so why not?
>>259300607
>Talk about first world problems
OH I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW I CANT TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON A VIDEO GAMES BOARD
YOU STUPID CUNT
lets just explain to these people that the people supporting them are a fringe minority on 4chan who should fuck off to reddit and tumblr
What's the sad part is that gaming is entertainment, yet it is being politicised. Stop this shit, gaming is for fun, it is a form of entertainment, it does not need to be politicised.
You're only helping by creating an endless amount of threads fueling this politisation of video games, by the way.
>>259300239
>YOU COULD BE ARGUING WITH A WOMAN ON /v/ RIGHT NOW!
>>259303096
How about instead of picking the lesser evil, we pick no evil?
farmVille is not a game
>>259300239
>only includes women who were lead designer or director
Nice, let's ignore the work of other women to provide our shitty point.
>>259303096
fuck you sides are for kikes
>>259303290
How are they evil though?
>>259302908
>Game is not a commercial success
>No profit is made
>Dumb cunts go hungry and get a real job sucking dick
And ignore pandering sites too. THey'll always have neough to get by, but /v/ is already making headway by not visiting them anymore and posting pastebins instead of proper links.
>>259300239
50% of kids that attend kindergarten are boys but only 2% of kindergarteners are male.
Fight the matriarchy lel
>>259303096
How about just not participating in this shit, moron? Zoe & Friends aren't going to care much if we support the project or not, considering Zoe herself actively opposed it.
>>259303549
read what you just said m8
>>259303461
>Feminists
I'm tweeting to them that its only a minority here that supports this, fuck you cancer enabling faggots who think donating to this feminist charity is going to do anything good
>Im going to make another off topic thread complaining about the board not being the way I want it to be instead of contributing
eat shit
>>259303382
This. The old school Capcom arcade crew had lots of women artists, for example. But since they weren't the #1 person in charge of everything, they don't count.
>first was /co/
>now it's /v/
Who's next?
>>259303852
fuck contributing, you TFYCfags are cancer
>>259303838
im sure theyll listen anon :)
>>259300607
>hurr vidya games don't matter
>muh first world problems
>>259303852
Don't forget to help fund The Fine Young Capitalists!
>>259304025
>waaaah why can't games be for women?
>>259303775
Which of the games up for voting is pushing a misandric agenda? None of them are invasive.
>>259302660
This.
>>259302908
>and very few people will end up buying it
Bullshit. Look at Dragon's Crown. Kamitani didn't go for appeasement when the SJWs started bitching, he just called his critics faggots and it's the best selling game he's ever made.
>>259300239
That image doesn't make any sense. Both statements are completely unrelated
>Farmers produce 99% of the food but only get to eat 3% of it
>>259300239
Maybe the other 43% should get off their ass and start designing them then.
Hi there.
I did a college project on video games and who's playing them today.
As such I did some statisical research. This involved looking up existing stats.
That stat, the one that says "45% of gamers are female" is innacurate.
It's actually "45% of people who purchase video games in stores in the USA are female".
This means that there's a high possibility that these women are simply mothers buying games for their sons.
Thank you. This has been a brief lesson in checking your sources.
-Anon
http://www.theesa.com/facts/gameplayer.asp
>>259300607
Genders do not exist,the correct term is Sex
>>259300239
>women use 45% but do 2% of the work
Wait what kind of logic is this, are they somehow proud or are they trying to blame men for women not doing shit?
I don't fucking understand this feminist logic.
how about making a videogame related thread then, you selfcentered piece of shit, instead of bitching and complaining like a little girl
Honestly, at this point, I hope the project gets funded and the game is shit. Just so I can laugh at every /v/irgin and /pol/ack who was stupid enought to be duped by tumblr shills into funding this shit
Meanwhile I just spent my money on crusader kings 2 and am fucking loving it, white knights gonna white knight and retards gonna retard I guess
Pissing off /pol/ and SJWs at the same time by supporting this.
It's a win-win.
>>259304320
That's like saying farmers only develop 3% of the games, and the only other profession that exists develops 97% of the games.
>>259304559
fuck off shill, stop viraling your scam on /v/
>>259304597
>implying /pol/ would fund feminists
>B-but you don't understand,they are GOOD feminists
>>259304610
you're playing into their hands you retard and inviting SJW's and more cancer into /v/ because of this, fuck off and die you SJW enabling kike
>tfw this "lets make friends with reddit and tumblr by donating to TFYC to support woman, despite woman already being in the industry!" is going to kill /v/ and all of 4chan, more then when 4chan being in the press and Project Chanology.
This is truly the end.
>>259300708
>>259300718
>>259300885
>>259304214
>we deserve funding because we have vaginas
>not the enemy
And no, before you say, all of the games are terrible. Because women make terrible game devs
>>>/tumblr/
>>259304610
>>259304779
Too bad i actually had some people on /pol/ saying that we should support this,i have the bad feeling that the tumblr/Reddit invasion reached even that board.
HOLY FUCKING NIGGER SHITTING DICK NIPPLES
ARE THEY SERIOUSLY BLAMING SOCIETY FOR THEIR OWN LACK OF DILIGENCE NOW
>>259304902
>Kill all of 4chan
Nah, just shit boards full of beta men like /co/, /v/ and /r9k/
>>259300942
>>they blame everyone for that apart from other women
That's the part I don't get. If women are equal and just as capable as men when it comes to making games, then why don't more women just make games? How is this anyone's fault but that of women themselves?
And don't tell me it's because those little boys called them "bossy" when they were little girls. Not buying that shit.
>>259305075
>/pol/
>supporting SJWs
no one /pol/ would ever support this that isn't a shill or newfag leftist from reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d6Q3VpqXyk
We're supporting a small group of proper feminist, which have garnered ire from every video game forum, video game journalist, and tumblr due solely to Zoe Quinn. They get shut down with every project they try, even now.
Their original pitch was something like, "Hey, let's get some girls to make some video games!" The response was, "Ok, well, let's bring in some Ideas Girls." To which they said, "We'd actually like them working on/in every aspect of the game, like the actual programming and making of the game, not just concept and design." This was apparently laughable, and the project sunk.
But not before Zoe Quinn took wind of the project. Her complaint was, "Why should women work for free on this project?" Perplexed by the question, they informed her that while a majority of the games profits would be going to charity, 8% would be kept for the developers. I can't imagine how a person could be offended by this notion, but Zoe was, and took to the tumblrs and using the influence that she seemingly, magically has, and tarnished the groups name on the internet.
Then along comes the Quinnspiracy, /v/ makes a lot of noise for a day, Zoe is a PR nightmare, and TFYC get to feel smug for once. /v/ has sought it fit to throw in with TFYC almost wholly out of spite, tumblr feminists foam at the mouth and bark, "If 4chan is supporting you, you're clearly doing something wrong." I don't know if TFYC is in on this, if they just like having support from somebody for the first time, or whatever else, but they are just loving us right now and I don't think tumblr or Twitter could be more angry.
>>259305075
Dude, /pol/ is a board in constant raid by the jidf midf stormfront /lgbt/ and every fucking shithole from the internet
There should be a split between gaming on a device designed to make phone calls and a device for playing games on.
>>259300998
-And engineers
-And CEOs
-And scientists
>>259305023
>Because women make terrible game devs
you didn't even need to resort to that
all the concepts are awful except for spook tycoon and none of these women have actual experience making games (since it's for women new to the industry) so even it will be terrible
>>259305286
>proper feminist
>>259304842
I highly doubt a crazy SJW will be able to stand this place.
Keep throwing spergfits though.
>>259305267
Exactly,but i actually saw those responses in a thread there and it surpised me since they sounded serious.
Women's most popular game is Solitare by far. Followed by shit like "Quiz games", Candy Crush/angry birds viral fads they don't spend money on, etc.
Apples are the new oranges, what a scoop!
Face it, the male dominated space in video games is being intentionally destroyed by cultural Marxist SJW.
I have solved Fermi's Paradox. No alien civilization has made contact because they were all destroyed by their alien SJW feminists.
They have already structurally changed and destroyed large parts of our hobby in a measly 5 years. They are literally death, destroyer of worlds (both real and virtual).
Now they can use highly flawed, closed methodology studies like the NDP GROUP one (which IS the only one, the ESA brochure in the article cites the EXACT SAME study as its ONLY source) to justify having creative input.
Speaking of creative input:
SJW/women haven't created anything marketable, so they attempt to destroy what exists instead.
Their own cited studies consider a browser game once a month a "Gamer". My grandmother plays Farmville and hasn't spent any money on it, nor has my aunt. I think there is a difference between a kid buying a few $60 Call of Duty 540: Electric Boogaloo every month, and women playing solitaire once a week.
SJW could vote with their wallet, or better yet, start their own company if there is such a glaring lack of games targeted towards women (or feminist, or trans, or faggots, or etc).
The SJW/women interest in video games is mostly because it is a male dominated space, yet I hear no solutions other than self-censorship.
Ms. Magazine attacked Comicon and comics for the same reason it attacked video games. A recent issue had Wonder Woman as an empowering character helping fight "the war on women" at Comicon.
It has never been easier for one person to design, write, program, market and make money off of a game, all in their free time.
It's over boys.
http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/53c72a0a9d4d4-soon-so-very-very-soon.php
>>259300239
>be grill
>don't have any vidya qualifications / experience
>complain about not being apart of the design of vidya
>on behalf of my gender
>>259305474
>Thinking there's not a difference between actual feminist and people like Anita
>>259300239
now do one with jews and banking
>>259305286
>proper feminist
>>259305357
>tfw no female inventors
So are women just stupid or lazy or what?
>>259305497
Not all feminists are crazy SJW,the rest of them just belives a stupid ideology made up of lies.
>>259305286
except for the whole "proper feminist" thing, it seems like a good thing
>>259304703
where did I say anything positive about the tumblr project you little bitch, you made a fucking off topic shit tier thread and you samefagged like a mad cunt in it
you shiteating faggot
>>259305714
One is a jew and the others are useful idiots.
I think if anything this is proof that we need to become more euphoric and misogynistic than ever before
Simply disliking feminist agendas was not enough, they are coming here and want to make this into the new /co/. We need to go full Elliot Rodgers and outright bombard ANY women on here with abuse, and fire immature shitslinging tirades at any female Dev who even passingly mentions gender
I just wanted to be mature and ignore the crazies, but all that's achieved is allowing the cancer to spread
>>259305793
They just lack passion and creativity.
>>259302696
>Women only play mobile games.
Where you getting this information from, exactly? Or is this just conventional wisdom*?
*Unsubstantiated bullshit
>>259305204
Except lots of other boards can get assaulted in this fucking retard "war". We literally had /pol/ come up with this idea. The safe heaven Japanese culture (despite most being shit) will be the next target
Only very niece boards will survive.
>>259305497
they come here all the time to shill and with the attitude at the moment its pretty friendly for feminists wanting to raise money for women in games, keep shilling though slut enabler
>>259305589
so what? fucking ISIS runs threads on /pol/ trying to push "if you don't support ISIS ur a jew" shit when /pol/ isn't one person and as a majority hates both jews and sandniggers.
Again and again with these women always whining about gender wage gaps. If they insist on nagging about it: they should be working on oil derricks instead of in game studios.
>>259300239
sounds like women need to step up to the plate,
>>259305286
Plus, we get to have some influence on a game that should get a lot of exposure, so maybe we can input some of our hilarious maymays x^)
>>259300239
But 45% is wrong.
>>259305881
because if you weren't from fucking tumblr you would know that this isn't a video games discussion board now fuck off
There are men women and children dying from Ebola, and these sjw are butthurt over a lack of female game devs
>>259305286
>proper feminist
>mfw i live in a third world country where women are killed by their husbands two times a week
>proper feminist is worried about women being playable characters in vidya instead.
>>259305286
no one is supporting anyone. /v/ is supposed to be fucking neutral on this. Let retards over at /b/ or /pol/ decide to fight politically motivated fights. Shitflinging does exactly 2 things.
1. It advertises /v/ on sites like reddit or youtube
2. It brings people to this board that think they are in good company because they don't get that people who shitpost here usually don't mean what they say
No one here gives a fuck about the industry, no one. The only people who write shit like that are crossboarding idiots that are interested in e-celeb drama. /v/ is as disconnected from the industry as you could possibly get. When developers create games they will never have /v/ as their target audience, when videogame "journalism" sites write articles they won't give a single fuck what /v/ thinks about them because to them we are a bunch of loser nerds with weird opinions. Let them do their shit and we do ours, /v/ is no one's place for their personal crusade with their personal agenda.
This is a problem with women, not with video games or the industry.
Women aren't game designers for the same reason they aren't physicists or engineers. It doesn't appeal to them so they go into other shit.
/thread
>>259305793
smaller variance in intelligence (so fewer women at the edges of the overall distribution, meaning there aren't as many in fields that require high IQ and at the peaks of achievement), greater risk aversion
>>259304478
Then why don't men wear dresses?
Check m8 nigger
>>259300607
Women have to do a deal about everything.
Funny how they never make a deal because hard workers like miners are 100% men.
>>259306005
Women are filthy casuals. Even the "hardcore" ones just play skyrim, Zelda, Pokemon and LoL
>>259305863
>>259305734
>>259305474
Poor choice of words on my part.
Perhaps the following would've been more fitting:
Egalitarians
Not-tumblr-feminist
Not-SJWs
Not-goddamn-insane
>>259301125
>the only interesting looking game is a theme hospital clone
I'd play it if they released a version where you end up in hell and get to fuck succubi all day long.
>>259301125
all of those are shit, why is anyone defending this not being banned for advertising?
>>259306307
Actually 1% of the miners in the world are female,my women's studies degree wasn't for nothing you know. *tips communist beret*
>>259300239
This is a stupid number, this is an industry what matters is money. How much do women spend on games in comparison to a men?
You know what boggles my mind?
Survival horror is dead
Adventure is dead
Action is dead
RTS is dead
FPS is dead
FPA is dead
TPS is dead
Free roaming has been the same shit for ten years
Jrpg are dead
Wrpg are a near lost cause
Sport shit is dead
Fighting games haven't been good for a decade now
Platformers are dead if you're not a flaming indie homo or into Nintendo stuff
And you worry that they want to put queers in charge of gaming development?
>>259306436
Egalitarianism is stupid though, and these women are feminists
The reason there are not many women in games is because they're fucking terrible at making games. End of.
>>259305649
Wait, is this politics or video games economics talk?
In politics, no. A doctrine that is not productive eventually dies out or gets marginalized. SJW or the modern far left isn't popular by any sense of the word and would be lucky to claim 2% of the population. The best way I could put this is that 80% of women probably just want radical feminists to just shut the fuck up and stop making them look crazy.
Video games talk? If media convinces the industry to shift supply towards this sort of deal, and there isn't demand appropriate, those firms will lose money and either switch supply or leave the market.
>>259306436
Those leading the project are FEMINISTS and that means that they are deluded motherfuckers who believe that women should reach the level of men with external help instead of working for themselves.
>>259306745
probably a lot considering how much money retards spend on shit like candy crush and the kardashian game (yeah not real games I know but I'm sure those are factored in to that stat)
>45% of the public
This shit always gets me, if it was actually true publishers would care, as it would net them more money, but most girls only play casual games on facebook and phones, not even dudebro tier pleb shit like CoD.
>>259306436
egalitarians are shit too
they're not insane for the most part (just indoctrinated) but they're still wrong. women aren't men, they have different abilities and interests and in a sane system that translates to different rights, responsibilities, and expectations.
>>259300239
When I first started playing videogames 20 years ago, it was all men. Women have only recently begun shoehorning their way into the industry. They need to fuck off, and leave videogames to the people who actually enjoy the hobby, y'know, us sex-denied males.
Men are like 70% of lesbian porn yet 0% of lesbian porn films star men in a leading role.
>>259306225
you little bitch, I will fucking hunt you down I swear to fucking christ
>>259300562
Well, the "hardcore" games are now easier and shallower than casual games, so its no surprise.
>>259306859
>SJW or the modern far left isn't popular by any sense of the word and would be lucky to claim 2% of the population.
You have a very limited definition of what a SJW is i assume.
>>259306646
Probably just secretaries that stay in the main floor doing paperwork and shit.
>>259300239
Well, we're fixing it, AND killing retards that do pictures like this at the same time.
How about that, huh?
>>259306256
This is the part that always gets me. We have these shitcunts whining about this trivial shit, collecting bucks because their feelings got hurt and they need 200k to make shitty TVTropes YouTube videos and not a single one of these selfish bitches ever MENTIONS organisations like Terre de Femmes, whose members travel to fancy places like Pakistan to teach young girls how to read and write instead of being married off at age nine.
>>259306781
boggle?
>>259307271
>>259307271
He's right.
>>259306404
Again, where's your proof?
>>259306895
>women should reach the level of men
by the time you start thinking in these terms you've already gone full retard
women and men should not be competing with each other for economic success, they should be cooperating with each other to build families by specializing in the activities they are adapted to do by evolution
>>259306781
Well put.
Video games are fucking dead. At the very least, we can encourage some decent women to put a character we made in a game.
What other fucking joys do we have left in this godforsaken industry?
>>259307110
do it i already back traced your IP and called the cyber police
I guess they probably don't want to develop games then.
>>259306436
>Egalitarians
>Only support women
>Make a deal about game character's gender instead of the game being good.
>>259307432
fuck you games are dead because of this needless pandering to minorities, women who need a charity to make games shouldn't be in vidya
>>259307418
>women and men should not be competing with each other for economic success, they should be cooperating with each other to build families by specializing in the activities they are adapted to do by evolution
That's kinda the opposite of how society works though. Everything's about competition.
>>259306859
>SJW or the modern far left isn't popular by any sense of the word and would be lucky to claim 2% of the population
it's more like 10%, but you have to take a broader view--many of yesterday's far left positions are today's center. the us is left of the ussr on basically everything but economics (because being left on economics killed the ussr).
>>259304478
No silly, that's how we reproduce.
>fags and wimmin killing vidya, bawww
So you pirate all your games, or *maybe* buy some dirt cheap shit from bundles and sales for a few pennies, play a fraction of them, and sit on 4chan bemoaning the death of games. Meanwhile Casuals and SJWs chuck hundreds of dollars at the CoDs and Gone homes. For some impossible reason the industry tries to pander to the latter groups.
Who could've possibly foreseen this outcome?
>>259307373
Now you understand why this "feminism" is a joke
>>259300239
>only 2 percent
Lying cunts
>>259300239
then it was never alive
>>259302917
>>259303183
>>259304025
I'm pretty sure he was telling journalists and feminists to do that, not /v/.
Yo but that afterlife empire game looks kind of neat
>>259307395
He is not.Explain Sweden.
>>259307608
So Resident Evil is dead because they pander to dickless men or landwhales? I don't think so.
Bioware hasn't made a good rpg in over ten years, but guess what? At their absolute prime they were okay at best, so nothing of value was lost.
>>259300239
>>259300239
I don't get it, even if these stats weren't inflated by FB/mobile shit, that 45% are clearly enjoying video games made by the 98% who are not women.
>>259307608
>games are dead because of this needless pandering to minorities
Tell me a game that fucking does this, that not Bioware.
I want to make a really fun game with nearly naked women, sex jokes, giant robots, ss, and all of that other fun great stuff I enjoy
it would be nice as agrillif I could be one of the first women to pioneer and design a great game and it be just as sexist and misogynistic as what feminists are claiming women hate
>>259307721
yeah, we obviously have steam sale threads because everyone here doesn't buy games
>>259307395
Yeah once you get off the internet (not directed at anyone, just saying) you realize that literally nobody gives a shit about what they're whining about. People who don't spend their entire life on the internet looking for things to be offended by (aka SJWs) are rarely as offended by stupid shit like a joke about a woman, for instance- contrary to how SJWs would like to lump their entire gender/race/sexuality/etc.
>>259300239
So... they're lazy/untalented and over represented for what they actually do? I already knew this.
>>259307854
Ubisoft does the same stuff
>>259300885
I would agree with you but no in this case.
It's not about female representation in newest assassin's duty which barely any female plays. It's just about females in leading positions of entertainment industry.On the other hand those statistics do not match my personal experience - I was working on a "social" games and out of five projects two had female leads.
>>259306270
This
>>259307752
Like mentioned earlier, it's because they're arbitrarily only counting women who are lead designers or directors. There are and have been lots of women in the game industry, they just apparently don't count because people are too stupid to realize that games are a a result of the collective work of many people.
>>259307630
individuals are not the natural units upon which civilized society is based
this is autistic libertarian nonsense that has only become anything close to true in the late 20th century/early 21st century west, and our birthrates are in the toilet because of it
we will be outbred by societies which have not forgotten how to orchestrate cooperation between the sexes if we don't get our shit together, even if those societies are much dumber and less technologically advanced
>>259307873
Rance was designed by a woman
>>259300239
>Being whiny one-sided black and white arguing faggots
You should support this because these people do it right and it is a positive to have more women developing shit. Look at fucking Shantae. Women make the best ass in vidya.
>>259307630
spoken like a true American.
>>259300607
>first world problems
Ok well complaining about complaining about first world problems is a first world issue so that cancels out, you shouldn't have to worry about that. The time spent considering altruistically donating money to anarchic african regimes under the guise of feeding pot-bellied kids who eat dirt is better spent masturbating if you are spending this time on a video games board.
Anyway my issue with OPs pick is that messages like this get sent to male dominated areas such as /v/, as if they were a call to arms or that we could do something. However the entire point of the picture is that it is women who are answering a call to arms (to develop games). As if they are cryptically asking me to do something about the fact girls aren't doing anything. I would help design games based off this picture but I am not a girl so this picture wouldn't mean anything if it didn't fascinate me, and since many feminist women would like to call us losers and virgins for being on /v/, why would they assume we were in a position of power to help them? If we are uncivilized mysognistic pigs, how do we have any influence or prestige?
They could say privilege but that is just a way of projecting your insecurities onto another persons success. It is also an attempt to say since something is male dominated, it means its also misogynistic -- As if they are exactly the same states, even though ontologically that doesn't make sense.
>>259307608
Games are dead because gameplay were deemed unimportant.
All the "minority pandering" does is to take the focus of the ones that are left, but its not a big issue.
The issue is when shitty game design get pushed as a norm by a vagina.
If the games made turned out to be good, who care if the games are made by wimminz? If the game sucks they should be called out even if the games are made by wimminz.
>>259300239
I think it's funny how they use a generic word like "design" instead of program because if they did that most women wouldn't even bother. If women (who actually care about muh equality shit) want to be taken seriously in the industry they'd go out and learn how to actually make a game. Not pay other people to make it for them and put their name on it.
I forgot the author, but I remember reading a book with a forward in it saying how people always wanted to split profits with her because they could give her a really "good" idea for a book. She told them to fuck off and go write it themselves. Writers are famous because they can actually write, not come up with 100 generic ideas. I think that same thing should apply to video games.
>>259307873
So why not make it then
You'll probably have todo it for freebut hey whatevr
>>259307015
Egalitarianism, depending on the definition (I assume you don't mean Randian egalitarians), never stated that men and women are the same, merely that the legal system should not discriminate between the two and that both should be offered the same opportunities. Most first world countries are largely egalitarian with a few exceptions like custody laws and the general treatment of domestic violence.
>>259306781
Maybe because we've grown used to the smell coming from Vidya Gaming's rotten corpse. Now they want to take a few shits on it, toss in a bundle of twigs and set the whole thing on fire. Maybe is someone would bother to pop in more often than a few times a year and do more than just spray a few shots of febreze into the air, we wouldn't give a shit. But nah. Fuck that apparently.
>>259307608
Pandering to minorities didn't kill video games. Minorities didn't implement DRM, microtransactions, online-only single-player games, or outright ruin genres.
We're fighting a pointless war to keep video games the same, already broken and ruined.
I don't fucking care anymore.
>>259307873
You should do it you fucking retarded, false flagging, pretending to be a girl, faggot.
>>259308062
Explain
>>259307412
>go on any game lobby of any game
>everyone is male
>thinking you need a citation to prove this
Fuck off landwhale, you probably don't even play games you fat grandma glass wearing cellulitis riddled slut
>>259300239
It should say, "And 90% of that 45% exclusively play Nintendo consoles."
I'm not being sexist, it's just a fact.
>>259308092
Japan isn't plagued with feminists in their videogame industry.
Lots of doujin and hentai artists in Japan are female, probably close to half.
>>259308172
nobody. thats the thing. But they have to make it seem like men would hate it so they can whine about something.
>>259300239
>45% are girls!
>There should be more female characters as leads!
Girls who actually enjoy games hardly ever give a flying shit about what the sex of the playable character is.
Unless it's a kart game.
>>259307839
RE pandered to the CoD crowd thats why, no one who plays survival horror wants michal bay shit
>wimmin devs associate themselves to /v/
Not surprised that they are called traitors brainwashed by the patriarchy
Maybe if women actually designed games worth a shit people would care.
But no, they make point and clicks and mobile games.
Meanwhile males are making DMC3, FEAR, Ocarina of fucking Time, Katamari, the list goes on.
>>259307873
Go make it instead of attention whoring here then you dumb bitch
>>259308268
I use a voice modulator to change my female voice into a male voice so I don't get discriminated against/hit on.
>>259307015
Of course ignoring biological differences is stupid, but thats not what people are talking abut when they talk about equality. Unless they're drinking the feminist cool aid.
Practical notions of equality are rooted in economic equality of opportunity and political rights.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
>>259308268
Sure, whatever.
>>259307721
If you look at the actual sale numbers, you will see you're talking crap.
Yes, CoD sells a lot, but its not due the shallow horrible single player mode, but due the fact it is the game that every casual mutually agreed to play, to avoid spreading the online community too "thin".
Even with all the SJW pandering, all the prices, all the screaming, Gone home only sold 250k units, while goat simulator is almost reaching a million.
According to the sales, the best game on the planet is tetris.
>>259308252
Did Assasin's Creed Liberation have a female negro protagonist just because? Or how Far Cry 4 will have a flamboyant gay character? I wouldn't be surprised if they did other similiar stuff too considering in what kind of countries their major studios are based.
I'm not understanding why there are so many users defensive about this and what effects it could have on a website. Don't you faggots have a back up website community ready if ever the one you normally patronize no longer suits you?
>>259308309
They also already have a lot of women in their gaming industry.
>>259304478
Gender is binary, everything else are outliers that are caused by mutations during reproduction.
This is an absolute fact.
![1399486067531[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4OuVTfF.jpg "1399486067531[1].jpg")
>>259308507
Women write great pornography, anon.
>>259308507
>Meanwhile males are making DMC3, FEAR, Ocarina of fucking Time, Katamari, the list goes on.
You sure no women worked on those?
>>259308216
>merely that the legal system should not discriminate between the two
in practice it seems to extend well beyond that--if i want to start a company and as a policy only hire men because i find this makes for a healthier workplace, i doubt i'll find many egalitarians defending me even though the state's not doing any discrimination
>and that both should be offered the same opportunities
this is where all the bullshit gets snuck in
in practice this is a trojan horse carrying disparate impact laws, which assume equality of capabilities by default and naturally conclude that any difference in outcome must be the result in a difference in opportunity
>>259302220
THIS
noticve how it's odd that all this negative press towards this charity event has popped up AFTER 4chan backed it, and AFTER anita demonized the charity for taking "white supremicist money"
THE DAMAGE CONTROL IS REAL
I don't get the shitstorm behind this. It's basic math.
48% of gamers are women, 50% are male.
50% - 48% = 2%
>>259308707
This is my backup
but my backup backup is wizardchan
>>259307323
My parents were both miners. My mom even had a vagina and everything. They're certainly rare, but far from unheard of. Modern mining in first world countries probably isn't exactly what you think it is though.
Its funny because the person that is leading this project is a faggot sounding male,women literally cannot do shit without the help of men hating their own sexuality.
>>259308613
Nobody would hit on you if they knew how ugly you are anyways you fat bitch
Just kill yourself, women really are the niggers of gender
>>259308860
My backup is xchan.
My backup's backup is sovietchan.
My backup's backup's backup is this one small chan.
>>259308172
If so I would appreciate the devs for platonic reasons, their design philosophy, their work ethic etc.
Not the existence of genitalia or social status.
Its kind of impossible to measure how much vagina is behind a game and relate it to other games, so when you say a game is bad you look at those tertiary concepts instead, the music, the game design etc.
Take music for instance: you cant say that the music breaks a threshold after x vaginas, instead the music in a game becomes great when it breaches threshold with the atmosphere, and that is such a complicated process and involves so many different things that it becomes gender neutral. Once gender becomes a part, we aren't talking about games.
>>259309445
Muh feels shitlord
>>259309282
If Candy crush is literally all they play, this means you can't sell a game to em.
>>259308098
>You should keep giving money, goy. It is good to give women preferential treatment so they get to make shitty indie games (by using cash mostly acquired from men)
Giving money to feminists so they can continue to spew their insane and bigoted ideology, is only going to hurt gaming more, even if these feminists are the lesser cancer, they're still fucking cancer.
>inb4 muh charity deflection
If this was about charity and curing ass cancer, then just give the money DIRECTLY to the people dealing with ass cancer.
4chan hacked.
http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/747559-embarrassing-week-gaming-industry-concludes-welovegamedevs-twitter-campaign
This is going to end so well.
>>259307818
Every time someone posts a Sweden collage, it's always bigger than the last time I saw it.
90% of that 45% restrict themselves to mobileshit and do not participate financially to the core of video games, so that doesn't mean much.
>>259309450
People who played games in the 80s probably already think gaming went to shit ages ago. Times change.
>>259305793
Instead if achieving their goals and blaming themselves for their own failures they just blame the world for their problems
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2014/08/fez-creator-phil-fish-and-polytron-corporation-hac-1.html
4chan did it - it can't be confirmed... OR REFUTED! DUN DUN DUNNNNN!
Irrefutable.
>>259300239
What exactly is stopping women from designing games?
Is math too hard for them?
>>259307683
>>259307271
Okay. Let's work with American politics, because everyone else is a filthy foreigner.
The break down roughly comes to this
2/3 of Americans are white/European.
Typically, 50-60% of this votes reliably Republican, 20% is middle ground, the rest is left.
Blacks overwhelmingly vote democrat 80% or more.
Hispanics vote democrat less than blacks, but more than whites.
This comprises about 90% of the population, with the rest being small minorities. Virtually all small minorities excluding Jews vote republican.
So, blacks, Jews, hispanics comprise a good 40% of our population combined assuming all of them vote democrat. You've got roughly 10% of wiggle room to work with, up to 11-12% if you include all Jews as SJW.
I honestly lost track of where I was going at this point, but yeah.
SJW do not get significant political traction because they do not sell practical doctrine. Essentially, the left of the United States as a total is an opposition party because of fptp voting and electoral college.
>>259300239
I'm perfectly fine with if women started making 40% of the games that pop on facebook.
>45%
I can't take it, throw out any kind of retarded smartphone app and face book game and there would easily be less than 10%, probably less than 5% women.
>>259309626
I love it when they assume things that would irritate them would irritate us. Like that one chick during the Tumblr backlash saying she'd "ruin us by posting porn and shit". On fucking /b/.
>>259309968
Yeah we're not at all irritated, considering there have been 5 zoe posts at all times for the past week.
Totally unrussled jimmies, us.
Hamburger Helper killed /v/.
I can only comment as someone who has been on /v/ since 2009 - but these boards NEVER discussed games journalism or SJWs until Bioware got faggy.
Before that all the cancer came from summerfags vs oldfags.
>>259309865
When it comes to programing they're just sensible. I pity the people that decide programing for video games would make a nice life career.
>>259309865
>What exactly is stopping women from designing games?
The patriarchy, obviously.
>>259309534
All the other Chans are way too slow for my liking
>>259309370
>shrewd capitalist sharks
>>259308785
You assume too much. If you want to run a company consisting solely of man, I wouldn't care. Years ago, I was once looking for a part-time job and asked a fashion boutique if they had a free spot. They said they only really hired women. I nodded and headed to the next shop. If it's what they require, it's either a smart decision or they'll eventually get pushed out of business by someone smarter.
>any difference in outcome must be the result in a difference in opportunity
Again, this has nothing to do with egalitarianism. If anything, it's a form of positive discrimination that is the very antithesis of it. Let me turn it the other way around for you. I'd like a man and a woman to have the same custody rights to a child and have the court decide who is the better guardian on case-by-case basis. This might very well mean that mothers would generally be preferred for whatever reason. If that were the case, it doesn't mean that we need to somehow adjust the legal system to give custody rights to more fathers as long as the process by which each individual mother gets custody of the child is not decided solely by her having a vagina.
>all these waifu,console tan and vivian threads
my god its like im in /co/..
>>259310305
boohoo
;_;
>>259309768
Videogames as a medium have improved greatly since the 80s
Early 2000s were the golden era of great technology and devs still caring
>>259309913
The left doesn't succeed by making more Americans vote for the far left politicians, it succeeds by moving the whole electorate and suite of candidates left over time. Looking at the current statistics about party affiliation just misses the whole point.
What is this?
I haven't been on /v/ in a month.
>>259306237
>worthless niggers dying from ebola
>bad
>>259310652
Just the daily/weekly/monthly crusade against some feminist in games. No one will care in a week.
>>259309445
Equal political rights are absolutely necessary for the proper functioning of a democratic state. The State, as an entity, naturally considers its own interests first. The proper subordination of the State to its constituents and any degree of government transparency demands widespread political rights (without discrimination based on wealth, race, etc) and high levels of public education (also available without discrimination). It has nothing to do with making people 'interchangeable', in the realm of politics, it has to do with the proper functioning of a republican state.
Furthermore, if you bother to read that article, you'll see that it, also, has nothing to do with making people interchangeable in the realm of economic production. It has nothing to do with, say, abolishing economic specialization.
Vidya Gaem.
Don't worry, when we inevitably win and Tabloid journalists and upper class college hipster activists lose the only platform they had to promote their poisonous agenda, we'll be able to go back to talking about videogames forever like the good old days.
The twilight of tyranny has faded in the horizon, after a long, long night of cancer, now make way for the morning of a new era.
Videogames.
>>259300239
>women represent 45% of the video game playing public
[citation needed]
Most gamers in general don't actually make games though
>>259310652
/v/ is kill
All hail to tum/v/lr
>>259310632
>Videogames as a medium have improved greatly since the 80s
Your opinion.
>Early 2000s were the golden era of great technology and devs still caring
The golden age of video games is the era of Space Invaders, Pac Man, and Donkey Kong. You don't get to decide what the golden age of video games is any more than you get to decide the golden ages of comics or animation.
>>259310748
I LOVE YOU EBOLA-CHAN
>>259310748
pol pls
>>259300239
I'm all for more women getting hired for video game development and design so long as they are passionate and qualified for it and not doing this out of mere Tumblr style feminazi activism.
Only people that love video games should be in the business of creating them in the first place.
Surely there must be a study of gender demographics in video games that includes the type of games they play and how much, allowing for some cutoff to define who "actually" plays games as a hobby.
>>259300239
ok guys, I've finally changed my mind and here's my take on this situation.
There are like 5-10% females out of all students on computer science faculties.
there are absolutely NO CONSTRAINTS for women in taking these studies but still they're like 10% of all students. Why not 50/50? It's not even something that requires superior physical force.
Expecting a bigger share for such minority in a industry that requires hard computer skills is a fucking lunacy. There is no excuse for this shit. That's why I won't support TFYC or any other feminist movement.
I thought I lost my mind today but now I know where I belong. Thank you /v/.
>>259311072
>>259310804
>Equal political rights are absolutely necessary for the proper functioning of a democratic state
I don't believe there's such a thing as 'proper functioning of a democratic state', so we're rather far apart here. Democracies inherently tend toward chaos and decivilization, because the rulers' incentives are to harvest short-term profit while they have control rather than to build up capital over the long term.
>>259300239
And 90% of them only play Farmville and other facebook social games.
>>259311123
Late to the party.
>>259310635
What I think you're claiming is
>Liberal ideas come up
>They eventually become accepted
>The discussion no longer becomes whether or not these once liberal policies are just, but new more liberal policies
If so, I still disagree. The democratic party in America really thrives on being an opposition party because if the Green, Labor, Libertarian parties gained traction, they would simply lose the seats to eachother as they compete for the same middleground.
As for the social left, most people pay lip service at best.
If we're simply arguing that things become more liberal over time, I'd agree with you. Things tend to do that to some degree in the short term, but hey, we had strong right revivals a century ago out of seemingly no where, and arguably again a few decades ago.
>>259310748
I want to cum inside ebola-chan and kill a bunch of niggers together
>>259309594
This is true, but my point is that the term "gamer" is meaningless and pointless anyways. I am pretty sure that major companies are starting to realize that mobile gaming doesn't actually reward quality and they are outclassed by cheap developers in that field.
It's just stupid when people get mad that X group is considered a gamer, because that means nothing. They consume interactive digital media. The market will always go to where there is money, no matter what related terminology dictates.
