reminder that buying used games is just as bad as pirating. the only difference is you're paying to hurt developers.
Technically it's not as bad. With used, you're not creating extra copies of the game. Also it's not illegal which seems to be a big thing that everyone always forgets in these debates.
Moral pirate fags are the worst. Just don't look back.
>>258437929
Okay not as bad, but still pretty close. None of the money goes to the devs, unless you buy DLC for it which is cancerous.
>>258437641
Deal with it PC fag. What i'm doing is perfectly legal and I don't have to make bullshit threads like yours to justify it because i'm not doing anything wrong.
>>258438738
DLC is not cancerous. Chopping up the final product so that the game sold is only partially complete and the DLC is required to get a full game is cancerous. In-game advertisements for DLC is cancerous.
Nobody gives a shit when a person spends $10 for a new outfit to dress up their waifu.
>>258437641
>implying pirating is a bad thing.
>>258439118
Take what you just said, and apply it to what the OP said. The used games market encourages more and more 'necessary' DLC to make up for not making a single dime on a used game sale.
>>258438887
Pirating is legal in my country too. Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
>>258439118
Yeah but 99% of the time that's what DLC is. Rarely is DLC ever done right.
>>258439384
Sony marketed their PS4 being able to play used games as a selling point. It also made Microsoft pull a 180 and do the same.
There is nothing wrong with used sales like piracy. I don't give a shit if you or anyone else pirates, just don't be a dumbass faggot who has to try and justify it.
>>258439902
>Sony marketed their PS4 being able to play used games as a selling point. It also made Microsoft pull a 180 and do the same.
That was clearly a consumer pandering dick wagging contest and both of them would rather used games be dead altogether. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
>There is nothing wrong with used sales like piracy
In both of those cases, the developers don't see a dime. Only gamestop.
> I don't give a shit if you or anyone else pirates, just don't be a dumbass faggot who has to try and justify it
I'm not saying you have to justify it either. I pirate but I know it's bad for the industry. We all do bad shit, but at least have the gall to admit it's not right.
>>258440365
Yeah, no. There is nothing wrong with buying used and only the video game industry bitches about second hand sales.
The movie and music industry doesn't give two fucks, because they know there's nothing wrong with buying used.
I hate using this word, but most video game developers have become incredibly entitled because of how much dick sucking "gaming Journalism" does for them.
>>258440796
Then you also agree there's nothing wrong with pirating, yes?
>>258440892
>I like Apples
>then you also like Oranges, yes?
This is you.
>>258441373
>buy used game
>no money goes to devs
>pirate game
>no money goes to devs
>LE APPLES AND ORANGES
>>258441604
>get paycheck from a job
>get money
>rob someones house at gunpoint
>get money
>LE APPLES AND ORANGES
>>258441768
i chuckled, but it in no way helped your argument. the point of buying games is to support the developer, and to essentially "vote with your wallet" so they can make more good games. when you buy used, jewstop gets the money. not the devs.
Stop being an asspained consolefag and just accept it. Buying used games is no different than piracy. In fact, I could argue that it's worse since devs feel the need to make DLC so they can get at least SOME money from used game customers.
>>258441373
He is right you know. There is a reason why they discussed being forced to register your game on your console. That would force people to buy new games instead of just being used ones. Even though its a dick move, buying used games is just as bad as being a fucking pirate.
>>258441972
The point of buying games is to play and enjoy them you dumb fuck.
And Gamestop isn't the only place in the world to get used games, quit talking like it is.
There is nothing wrong with buying used no matter how much you try to argue that it is. The movie and music industry has already proved every argument of yours wrong.
If game devs worry so much more about used sales than piracy, maybe they should make a fucking game that people want to keep.
>>258442180
>Even though its a dick move, buying used games is just as bad as being a fucking pirate.
Except it isn't.
i thought gamestop use the money to buy more games. It still a contribution to the economy, idk.
>>258442553
>The point of buying games is to play and enjoy them you dumb fuck.
You know what I meant you pedantic fuck.
>And Gamestop isn't the only place in the world to get used games, quit talking like it is.
Replace Gamestop with whatever multimillion vendor and my statement still stands.
>There is nothing wrong with buying used no matter how much you try to argue that it is. The movie and music industry has already proved every argument of yours wrong.
So you agree that there's nothing wrong with piracy? You said there's nothing wrong with buying used games, and buying used games gives no money to the devs (just like piracy). And since there's nothing wrong with buying used games, there's nothing wrong with pirating. Yes?
>If game devs worry so much more about used sales than piracy, maybe they should make a fucking game that people want to keep.
They're already doing that by making artificially long tacked on multiplayer modes that take 6 months to hit max rank. By then, the game isn't worth shit and won't sell for much at gamestop.
>>258442694
>nuh uh
Nice argument.
Is fucking borrowing games from a friend also as bad as pirating? Retard.
>>258442851
Gamestop has probably helped developers far more than hurt them with used sales considering how hard they push for pre orders and constantly get exclusive day one DLC deals.
>>258437641
What if I bought it off of ebay?I can't find good DBZ BT3 discs in gamestop that don't already have a scratch or two on them.
>>258443120
yes. you don't get the point though. there's nothing wrong with pirating, or buying used game. my point is that if you think pirating is bad but buying used games isn't, you're a hypocritical twat
>>258437641
daily reminder that pirates will pretty much say anything to make it sound like they aren't cancer to the industry.
Why can't you just say that you're poor and/or a jew? I pirated when I was poor. I didn't feel the need to try to morally justify it. I was a poor piece of shit. There are plenty of poor pieces of shit OP.
>>258443474
Explain to me how pirating and buying used games are different.
Pirate $30 game: No one gets money
Buy $30 game used: Gamestop gets $30
Unless you think supporting gamestop is crucial to the vidya industry (it isn't), then there is literally no difference between piracy and buying used games.
>>258443072
>So you agree that there's nothing wrong with piracy? You said there's nothing wrong with buying used games, and buying used games gives no money to the devs (just like piracy). And since there's nothing wrong with buying used games, there's nothing wrong with pirating. Yes?
The developers made every single copy of the game that you can buy used. A consumer has already paid for that product and given the developers their money. What they continue to do with that product is completely out of the developers hands now that they have that customers money.
To be able to buy used someone has to buy the game new first and give the developer some money.
To pirate no one has to buy the game at all. You're creating your copy and the developer gets zero money.
>ITT retards and manchildren who have no idea how retail works
The developers already got paid for every new copy of the game they send out to distributors, regardless of if every copy sells. The money you pay goes to the retailers who reimburse their losses when they ordered the shipment of the new product.
>>258443796
>A consumer has already paid for that product and given the developers their money.
That consumer gave his money to the devs. Not you. He helped the devs. Not you.
>To pirate no one has to buy the game at all. You're creating your copy and the developer gets zero money.
It's already been proven, by The Witcher 2 and Hotline Miami, that piracy followed by good word of mouth reviews helps sales.
For the 8th time: I'm not saying buying used games is bad. All I'm saying is that it's no better than pirating, which also isn't bad. Only that they are on the same level, or at lease very close to each other.
>>258440365
>Only gamestop.
why do you anti-used faggots always pretend that only gamestop is capable of used game transactions? amazon, craigslist, ebay, and person to person is way better
>>258442553
This. Can't stand marketers crusading against used games. Everyone points fingers at Gamestop but but I often sell off my old games myself on amazon and craigslist. I paid money for the game and I'll sell it if I damn want to.
I appreciate Nintendo's response, which was them saying if developers hate used games make games people want to keep. I almost never sell or give away my Nintendo games, because they aren't shit.
>>258444081
>why do you anti-used faggots always pretend that only gamestop is capable of used game transactions?
Because it's irrelevant to the argument. Why do you care so much? Replace Gamestop with Amazon or eBay and it's the same argument. Stop being autistic.
>>258438887
Uh, Pirating is TECHNICALLY Illegal, but it's not like they're creating traps for piracy like child porn or something...
>>258444158
>This. Can't stand marketers crusading against used games.
Read the thread, fatass. No one is saying buying used games is bad. We're only saying it's no better than piracy, which is also not bad.
Used Games are the only option if it's an old game, like Diamond and Pearl.
>>258444164
>Because it's irrelevant to the argument.
no, it isn't, you're misrepresenting reality.
>>258444335
It really is irrelevant, you autist. I'm just saying "Gamestop" instead of "Gamestop/Amazon/eBay/GAMES" Because it saves keystrokes.
It literally does not affect the argument at all. Buying used games is buying used games, regardless of the vendor.
>>258444023
>That consumer gave his money to the devs. Not you. He helped the devs. Not you.
That's exactly what I fucking said you retard. Did you not even read that sentence you just quoted?
Why would a consumer give me money for a used game?
It's literally impossible for used games to be on the same level of piracy, because each used copy of a game was bought brand new at one point, otherwise it wouldn't fucking be used.
Devs make ZERO money off piracy, because no one needs to buy a new copy since they're all creating clones over and over.
>>258444438
>It really is irrelevant, you autist.
no, it isn't. insulting me doesn't change that. stay mad thought that you got called out lying
>>258444701
And when you go into gamestop and buy Pantsu Quest VII for $30 used, the devs don't see a single penny of that either. The only one who actually helped the dev in that scenario is the guy who bought it before you. Other than that, you're no different than the thousands of russian pirates clogging TPB.
On a larger scale, the used game business is not as bad as piracy. But on a smaller, consumer scale: it is.
>>258445107
How does saying "Gamestop" instead of "Amazon" change the argument at all? Come on. Tell me. Why does it matter?
>>258445107
Watch out. He's going to call you an autist again.
>>258445213
>And when you go into gamestop and buy Pantsu Quest VII for $30 used, the devs don't see a single penny of that either
They don't need to, they already saw the money from it from the first person who bought it. They aren't entitled to money from a copy they already sold.
>The only one who actually helped the dev in that scenario is the guy who bought it before you. Other than that, you're no different than the thousands of russian pirates clogging TPB.
Actually I am better, because by your sound logic I am ridding the world of one less used copy of the game, increasing the chances that someone will have to buy a new copy of the game due to a lower amount of used copies, unlike piracy there's only so many used copies in the world.
>On a larger scale, the used game business is not as bad as piracy. But on a smaller, consumer scale: it is.
Nice moving the goalposts there
>>258443747
Piracy isn't legal you imbecile. So that's a pretty big fucking difference.
Signed, a piratefag.
>>258443747
>pirate $60 dollar game: no one gets any money
>someone buys a $60 dollar game and doesn't want it anymore
>you buy for $30 dollars used
>devs got $60 dollars from the original owner and the person who sold it to you gets $30
Pretty big difference if you ask me.
Not my fault devs have inflated marketing budgets that need 5 billion copies sold to get 1% profit. Fuck em. If I can get a game for cheap then Im getting a game for cheap.
What happened to OP? Did he finally realize how much of a faggot he was?
