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>Tactical horse shitting
>helicopters fly overs on caution
>enemies adapt to counter your playstyle
>wolves that you can probably fulton and use as guard dogs
Get we have an actual thread about the GAMEPLAY? The shit that matters more than anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7whTM1eydE
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I'm excited and everything, but TBH, the fact that they keep on showing the exact same demo at every event has me a teensey bit worried.
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>>257835406
>that fulton c4'd jeep blowing up the helicopter
I imagine some crazy shenanigans with the fulton will pop up everywhere
>>257835759
I think they really want to hammer in that playing the same scenario can be different in multiple playthroughs. Its the big thing changed from 5 to the other games
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>>257835406
>>Tactical horse shitting
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What are the consequences to the Fulton Recovery System use? Seems ridiculously OP
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>people claiming they won't buy the game because of the box

Where does these people come from? I remember faggots saying the same about Snake's mustache in MGS4.
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Is Snake gonna be pulled out and permanently replaced with Quiet partway through? I'd dig it.
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>>257835406
>enemies learn what you use and wear protection in the future

ahahaha I love it
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>>257835406
>mfw seeing the horse shit button and tactical jeep bomb
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>>257836430
Have you played Peace Walker? Helmet enemies are annoying as shit. It's goig to be even worse because of the nerfed tranq.
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>magazines aren't infinite anymore
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>>257835406
>Tactical horse shitting
Holy shit.
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>>257836386
Each one costs you money
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>>257836742
Just cqc or tell them to freeze with a banana. That's what I did. I loved the missions where you had to go through the level with just a banana.

Anyways, I'm excited about enemies getting smarter to your actions. Makes it more dynamic
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>>257836791
When did they change that?
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>>257836386
Well it costs money to fulton, and said money could be used to research new weapons or tech.

Its hard to tell its downsides in demos where they get unlimited resources
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>>257836742
CQC, or are you too impatient to body shot them and wait?
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>auto aim
>tag enemy markers
>slow mo
>see though walls
>bloody screen
>filmic tears
>health regen

So why do people like this?
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>>257837028
They were infinite in GZ, but not anymore in TPP
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>>257837204
>Auto aim, tagging, xray, reflex mode can all be disabled.
Is health regen that much of an issue? You can still get your ass kicked in GZ when in a fire fight.
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>>257837204
You can turn off the slomo and tagging in the options
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>>257835406
>enemies adapt to counter your playstyle

Maybe the game will feature good AI but I don't know how anyone can type that with a straight face. Every game since the beginning of the PS2 era has touted that and been lying.
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So since your horse can shit on demand, I guess we can assume there will be plenty of uses for it
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>>257837204
I take it you didn't play GZ. The gameplay is actually very different, and a lot more difficult, and all of these things (save for bloody screen and film tears) are there to balance out the fact that the game has gotten a lot more challenging.

Oh, and auto aim, enemy markers, slow mo, and seeing enemies through walls is all optional

but yeah regen health is still disappointing
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>>257837204
>Auto aim and aim assist can be turned off
>Tagging is actually really fair and necessary as the radar system has been removed
>Reflex (Slow mo) can be turned off
>Seeing through walls when there's dozens of enemies is fair
>Don't get shot scrub
>What?
>Don't get shot scrub
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>>257837498
>reverse horse into a rations shed
>press X to poop
>none of the food can be eaten from fecal contamination
>soldiers starve
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>>257836054
>Its the big thing changed from 5 to the other games

Because everyone played through MGS3 like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqfkI7JlUU8&list=UUqfWsZ0TxMdINAPhjFu2YTA
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this thread
>14 replies
pc NEVER EVER thread
>6 gorillion replies

fuck you /v/
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>>257837738
>knock out guard
>make horse shit on him
>he wakes up and goes berserk
>starts shooting his comrades while shouting Russian expletives
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>>257837853
You know what to do then

>MGS5 WILL NEVER EVER HAVE GRAY FOX
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>>257835406
>>enemies adapt to counter your playstyle
I will buy this game without a doubt but the fact the simple boxes confuse enemies really makes me wonder that thing mentioned.
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>>257836742
much better than running around one shotting everyone

i like this idea
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>>257837581
Not him, but eat a dick. Tagging and Reflex are not balanced in any way
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>>257837916
>Make horse shit
>go crouch it in
>now guards wont go near you like the fly suit in MGS3
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>>257838083
then don't use them, you fucking idiot
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>>257837978
>Knock out several guards with a box
>Return later
>Using a box
>Some guy sees you
>He starts freaking the fuck out, calls on radio
>"C-CP THE BOX IS PRESENT WHAT DO"
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>>257838083
You can turn both off motherfucker. Tagging is fair Reflex is not.
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>>257836742
>Helmet enemies are annoying as shit.
I never understood why PW players have trouble with them. Just shoot them anywhere but their heads, since you still have to shoot them twice anyway.
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>>257837978
That's intentionally dumb AI, they're performing exactly the way they're supposed to. And by adapt, they mean they'll wear helmets and flak vests if you like shooting people
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>>257838207
>>257838370
I do, but him saying they're there to balance out the open world is bullshit. It's there because of the broader audience who don't want to think
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>>257837484

Good AI does not exist and the only instances in games where it "did", those were convoluted scripts.

Having taken interest in real AI development, I can assure you that AI "academia" is full of shit, they do not even have a principle of intelligence pinned down, and the best "AI" that exists is just simple methodical emulation of certain functional parts of real intelligence. Badly.

AI is a misnomer because therre is none.

Are you aware of how hype and empty promises work in gaming ?

It's the same but actually worse in AI research. People claim all sorts of hilarioous shit for money, and then underdeliver or not deliver at all, while leeching money.
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>>257835406

>wolves that you can use as guard dogs

No they are guard wolves because they are wolves and not dogs. For fucks sake OP dont say stupid things like that.
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>>257837667
>its ok if kojima does it!

Get that cock out your ass
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>MGS steals Splinter Cell's shit and ends up doing it better
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>>257838570
>how dare people not be as good at video games as me!!!
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>Tactical horse shitting
Hehe, good jok-
>it's actually true
>mfw
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>>257835406
>make your horse shit in the road
>causes a jeep to spin out of control
>tie a balloon to it and it flies away
wtf did I just watch is this next level combat?
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>>257835406
>Get we have an actual thread about the GAMEPLAY? The shit that matters more than anything.
nope

enjoy your thread of mustards posting >never ever
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>>257838947
Not one person as done that yet and we're 50 posts in
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>>257838909
I lost my sides when I saw that, can you help me find them?
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Ground Zeroes is $17.50 on XBL, worth it? Last MGS games I played was snake eater.
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>>257839052
Cause they are busy doing that in other threads
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>>257838692
More like
>How dare people not want to put any time/effort into a hobby and expect to be catered to
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>>257835406
>all those jaggies and blur
Is this screenshot from ps4? I doesn't look like native 1080p.
Most likely 900p upscaled.
What the fuck? I thought all games on ps4 were running in 1080p native except for bf4 and watch dogs.
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>>257837372
>>257837430
>>257837667

>Y-you can turn it off!!

Yep, and 1999 mode turned Bioshock Infinite into System Shock
Turning off Instinct Mode turned Absolution into Blood Money
Turning off Mark and Execute turned Conviction into Chaos Theory

Oh fucking wait, games are designed around these features and turning them off does not change the game design, it just vacuums out an intended feature and does nothing to compensate for it's lack of presence in the game design.
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>>257837204
SNEAKAN'
POKEMAN'
BASE BUILDAN

its seriously the perfect game
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I was going to buy it because all the trailers made it look very serious and dramatic sbout war and child soldiers but now i doubt i will be getting it. The fultons, sheeps, horse poop and specially the cardboard shit is way too fucking stupid.
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>>257839168
Absolutely.
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>>257839446
It's one of the very first screenshots released
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>>257839168
Its really fun. You must've realized its gonna run like shit though right?
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So what did you guys think of the other player's base infiltration stuff? I laughed when the enemy snake showed up.
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>>257839458
HOLY FUCK are you this retarded?
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>>257839635
video?
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>>257839458
Wtf is this nigga talking about?

Did you never play GZ? You even get a higher rank for having the slo-mo shit off.
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>>257835406
>enemies adapt to counter your playstyle
Fuck you, Kojima.
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>>257839765

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OzX0tlvn8

Second half of this. Skip ahead to where the first demo ends and he shows off infiltrating another player's mother base.
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>>257839589
Don't really care about graphics, hows the frame rate on xbone?
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>>257838658

Doesn't help that Splinter cell decided to become terrible.
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>>257839458
I guess you just don't like fun. Sure the bitches will play with auto aim and aim assist on but the people who want a challenge will turn that shit off. Marking targets is the only thing that's acceptable to have on. PS I have over 50 hours in GZ so I know what the fuck I'm talking about.
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you forgot
>misogyny boxes
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>>257838365
MGSV becomes rubber
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>>257838581
>People claim all sorts of hilarioous shit for money, and then underdeliver or not deliver at all, while leeching money.
you just described ALL of academia
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I fucking love how comical the Fulton function is
Its just perfect
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>>257835406
>stealth game
>need to pass the time outside the enemy camp
>light up a cigar with visible smoke
>stealth
Oh snake you fucked up hide behind a rock next time.
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>Tits on boxes
That's okay, a little over the edge but still funny
>The tits are half asian half american blond mutt tits
KOJIMAAAAAA
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>>257839916
why the fuck wasnt this in the gametrailers stream?

more importantly: if someone infiltrates you and you knock them out can you recruit them?

Can I have a base of big bosses?
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>>257835406
>beating up a guy having a good time enjoying your box art
White knight detected.
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>>257840656
It's a hologram, numb nuts
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>>257840917

In all the other games they used quality Japanese models.
Did Kojima not hand pick the boobs this time?
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>>257840945
>why the fuck wasnt this in the gametrailers stream?

It was advertised as being on the show floor demo.
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>>257837770

Thank you for linking that video, I had the hardest time finding that account again.
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>>257840917
>half asian
are you retarded? Its a white woman you stupid gook.
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>>257839694
Wow nice rebuttal! So well thought out!
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>>257837770
The difference is he can only do that because they do the exact same thing every time. So actually, that's a good example of the change.
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>>257840656
it's holographic smoke
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>enemies adapt to counter your playstyle
Oh boy, if I had a dollar for every time that claim was made about an upcoming game.
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>>257842032
but kojima
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>>257842032
Sounds like a hyperbole but it wouldn't be that hard, would it?
Its just swapping in more gear for the enemies every time you finish a level depending on hard stats, like headshot ratio and how many kills you got with a machine gun, stuff like that
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>>257837770

God bless you anon. I haven't laughed this hard all year long.

Would write a book about/10
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>>257842032
It kind of doesn't make sense.
>stealthy approach
>enemy becomes extra vigilant
>switch to direct approach
>enemy becomes less vigilant

No game can have a perfect reactive system. It would frustrate most people.
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>>257843898
We don't really know anything else besides that enemies get helmets if you tranq them in the head too much

For all we know going in guns blazing could make them increase the guards by a fuckton and setup machinegun tripods or have tanks and other armor patrolling about
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>>257837770
>4:47 and on

AAAYYYYYY
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>>257836087
Shit just got tactical.
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>>257839487
So you've never played a MGS game before then? Weird ass shit is a staple of the series.
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>Get we have

Literally what?
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>>257840917
I thought it was Sara Underwood
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>>257836791
They weren't infinite in prior games.

They were only infinite in GZ because they didn't have knocking.
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I don't like how Ocelot doesn't sound like in MGS3...
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>>257838406
>overusing girl box/porn mags
>AI compensates by replacing all males guards with woman
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> Feed horse laxative
> Block roads with "Poo Blocks"
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>>257846574
He's like 20 years older, why would he still sound like a 19 year old?
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>>257847081
>mission is to stop a convoy
>spend an entire day feeding your horse laxatives and shitting on the road
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I think a simple way to have the AI adapt to your playstyle would be

>Stealth : More likely to be less vigilant, won't chase you down as aggressively if you are a pacifist, patrols are more spread out

>Assault : Enemies wear more protective clothing, specialist teams are faster to respond and actively try to hunt you down but as a consequence, it's easier to juke them and have them concentrate on a single area while you slip by towards the now vacated objective
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Where does this game take place, timeline wise?
I haven't played (to completion) any other metal gear games, mostly because I found the controls and gameplay to be a bit boring, but this game looks like it's a bit more fast paced, and the controls look more fluid. I tried 1, 3, and 4, and couldn't be bothered to finish them.

If I buy this am I going to be completely lost?
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>>257835406
>there will be no snowy areas where you can use the wolves with a sled
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>>257847256
he dosnt smoke. thats why snak sounds like gravel
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>>257847469
Who fucking knows, man
There is no large sprawling forest in Russia
Who says there won't be ice in Afghanistan?
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>Kiefer is still doing voice recording sessions
>"Big Boss doesn't talk a lot"
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>OuterOps returns
>Plays like JA2 now
Good god, if this happens...
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>>257847427
Chronologically it goes MGS3>Portable Ops (noncanon?)>Peacewalker>Ground Zeroes>Phantom Pain>Metal Gear> Metal Gear 2>MGS>MGS2>MGS4
If you haven't played 3, Peacewalker, and Ground Zeroes you will probably have absolutely NO idea what's going on in the story.
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>>257835406
>iDroid
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>>257847626
>There is no large sprawling forest in Russia
what?
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Can I turn all the bullshit slow-mode stuff off? And the stupid xray vision? If I can do that and use the no UI mode coming with the PC version then this game will be fun.
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>>257847880
I'll buy ground zeroes before MGSV, mostly just to see if I like the gameplay this time around. I guess I'll read a synopsis or something.
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>>257848010
Sorry, I meant in the area MGS3 takes place
If I remember correctly, its flat and empty. That entire portion of Russia is
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>>257848153
Yes you can turn it off.
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>>257848161
you can finish the game faster than you can read the synopsis.
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>>257848153
>the no UI mode coming with the PC version

What?
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[DEFECATE]
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So you can't fulton the horse at the end of the mission? Shit game.
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>>257837770
Wait, you could shoot their exclamations? holy shit
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>>257848440
>REDESIGNED INTERFACE – Ground Zeroes users will benefit from a clean in-game HUD that shows the minimal amount of on-screen data to give a more intense gaming experience.

Idk if TPP will have it though.
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>>257848161
I'd suggest watching an LP if you want to get the story.
The shit in these games can get a bit too batshit convoluted for a synopsis to do it justice.
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>>257839458
this. the only time ''you can turn it off!'' has actually worked out was in human revolution. this game is blatantly designed around all of that shit so turning off wont do anything
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>>257836392
they're obviously people who've never played metal gear before
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>>257847763
That's dumb anon. Its dumb and you know it.
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>>257838909
Uh... I'm confused as hell. Not only does horse shit not cause a 1 ton jeep to spin out, but tying a balloon and making it fly away? From the trailer I though this was an uber serious war game, what am I missing? Was it always this silly?
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>>257838169
Sounds like the perfect game for horseshit fetishists
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>>257848314
I thought the southern part of Russia brushed up against almost jungle like environments hence Putin hunting tigers.
Which in msg3 they explain you cross over from a jungle region to get to your destination.
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>>257848868
That's MGS, m8. The story and cinematics are SUPER SRS BZNS but the gameplay itself can be pretty silly.
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>>257847880
You should probably get into a different series.
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>>257848667
only people who say such dumb shit never played Ground Zeroes
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>>257846690
They'll kick you in the dick of you search their crotch for items like the frogs or w/e they were called in MGS4 did
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>>257846690
>>AI compensates by replacing all males guards with fags

ftfy
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NEVER EVER. Oh wait.
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>>257849012
Oh. I'll have to completely revise my thinking on the games then (or maybe actually play them.) I've played a console maybe 3 times in my life, and i couldn't be arsed to emulate these games before. Maybe it's worth checking out.
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>>257848868
Nah this is pretty silly.
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http://strawpoll.me/2338185
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>>257849240
>squeals of pleasure every time you grab their balls
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That gameplay video looks amazing. I wasn't really digging the whole reflex system but I can see the point now. Looks like a beautiful mixup of metal gear 3 and 4 with that pinch of peace walker inbetween.
Can't wait to play it.
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>jeep spins out on horse shit
What the fuck was that horse fed?
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>>257849675
lubricant
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>>257849675
I thought that it would fling up on the car and make the soldiers stop just to clean it.
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Did they say whether you can operate alongside your Diamond Dogs or is it like Peace Walker where you send them for off screen battles?
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>>257849563
>people actually going to double dip
Thanks fags. you're the reason why PC gets delayed releases.
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>>257848314
Jesus christ, your geography knowledge is horrible. Russia has temperate climate, it's full of forests. You are probably thinking about part of Russia located in subartics and tundra.
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>>257849942
aren't they handicapped
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>>257849563
>implying coming later
PC confirm before the game is even close to out pretty much confirms it's gonna launch alongside the consoles
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>>257849952
People seriously underestimate just how fucking huge Russia is.
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>>257850057
NOT even close to out I mean
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>>257850102
Its because common (american) misconception is that most or russia is a barren wasteland.
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>>257850176
Isn't it though? How much of it is actually developed? pls help im american
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Mother Base was my favourite part of Peace Walker

I will happily grind for weeks to get my base to tip top condition and that is why I am going to buy this game

Why was I born such a fucking loser
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>>257850305
Who cares if it isn't developed or not its not a barren wasteland. You say the same ignorant shit about my continent.
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>>257849952
It has a very few temperate sub-tropical forest though (like the ones that are common in the eastern US) except in the southernmost regions where MGS3 does not take place but in the north western region of the country, not to mention it is constantly referred to as a "jungle" in game which Russia definitely does not have.
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So what I don't understand about TPP is:
You can upgrade your base of operations, right?
And you can manage your recruits, right?
I wish they'd show more of that, to see if it has relatively deep the mechanics are
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>>257850490
Are you african?
Do you have ebola?
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>>257850645
nah, he's probably a britbong
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>>257850645
Australia.
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>>257850515
Yeah, and it doent have crocodiles. IIRC MGS3 took place somewhere on the South of USSR. Like Tajikistan or something like that. It's totally not the same as south border of modern Russia
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>>257850176
Well a large amount of it is sparsely populated and inhospitable and none of the environments shown in Snake Eater exists in Russia, not to say it's completely barren but that isn't entirely untrue either.
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>>257850515
There is tropical climate in the far east of Russia and tropical forest is the same as a jungle.
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>>257850554
>>257850405

I am a third anon. The same boat is we.
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>>257849675
>>257849854

this.

shit shenanigans are fine, but that was just stupid
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>>257850917
But Australia IS a barren wasteland?
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>>257835406
If you queerbags hadn't seen it already, footage of a base invasion's been posted. I like the idea of a duel against a parralel Big Boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OzX0tlvn8#t=16m56s
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>>257851469
Not all of it.
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>>257851558
does this video exist in a direct form anywhere?

I cant hear the motherfucker for beans
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>>257851823
Don't think so, I think they're releasing a direct version on the next KojiStation episode.
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>>257851469
Nope. I found this under siberia tropical on google. I bet you can find tropical environments in Russia especially during the summer. Complete with snakes and bugs. I know snakes live close to the arctic circle.
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>>257851019
No their aren't their is no tropical climate in the entirety of Russia and besides MGS3 doesn't take place in far east Russia anyway, the closest it ever gets is sub-tropical (not humid sub-tropical (Cfa) like what you see in the eastern US) is in the southern baltic region.
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>>257849952
>>257850102
MGS3 doesn't even take place in Russia
Tselinoyarsk is in like, Uzbekistan
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>>257852572
which is damn close (geographically speaking) to russia
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>>257852108
>southern baltic region
what. The sub tropical region is on the black sea near Sochi. Also Siberia has some warm climates.
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where the fuck did all you professional AI specialists, geologists, and meteorologists come from? you neckbeards have no idea what youre talking about.
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>>257852572
This, americans are confusing ex-soviet satelite countries with modern russia.
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>>257852042
You're pretty stupid those palms were obviously planted not native to region and just because Russia isn't a frozen wasteland 24/7 doesn't mean you should just say retarded shit like they have a fucking tropical rainforest or something.
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>>257852108
At the time of MGS3 the Soviet union incorporated Uzbekistan:
This region was subsequently incorporated into the Russian Empire in the 19th century, and in 1924 it became a bordered constituent republic of the Soviet Union, known as the Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic (Uzbek SSR). It subsequently became the independent Republic of Uzbekistan on 31 August 1991
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>>257852818
i was going to make a topical joke about how, looking at today's geopolitical climate and the current "new cold war" the states are trying to cause that it went deeper, then realized it's 3 am, I have no idea how to communicate this joke, and it's the wrong board
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>>257852920
>I'm pretty stupid
You are the idiot that can't understand Russia has changed its borders since the time MSG3 was set.
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>>257839942
Solid 60. It really doesn't look too bad either. A little aliasing here and there but mostly up to par with ps4. I've out about 20 hours into it so far, so its worth 17$
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>goes to tranq enemy at 9:29
>fucking helmet

that caught me off guard
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>>257836392
My brother, whom has never played MGS but has been interested in this one, freaked the fuck out when he saw that video. Couldn't believe that it was in the game and said that it looked absolutely retarded. When I explained that MGS has never been a super serious franchise and has had stupid shit like that box in every single game. He just kept repeating that it's retarded. He's 15.
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>>257853468
When I was 15, I knew more than everyone else too.
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>>257851576
isnt your country's motto "i love a sunburnt country"?
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>>257853468
Well, to me it looks like he is retarded.
Dont waste your time on ignorant people
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>>257836742
Tranq is the single item that should be removed from mgs.
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>>257849931
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OzX0tlvn8
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>>257854020
>not playing MGS simply for 100% nonlethal runs

metal gear... metal gear has changed
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>>257853045
>>257853045
No you're still stupid since you were referring to siberia in your posts and say "you can find tropical environments in Russia especially during the summer" which is completely untrue.
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>>257850405
:/ I'm pretty stoked for metal gear solid v: clash of the phantom clans as well.
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>>257853840
Yeah, but it's also "droughts and flooding rains."

Besides, North Australia is FUCKING hot. And humid.
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mgs 2 showed the dart on body

but not mgs v?
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>>257853840
Yeah, but not all of it looks like pic related
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You know, in that entire video not once does snake speak...
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>>257835406

>Chopper flies over negating the jeep
>"Put a fulton on it and crash it into the chopper"
>They do it
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>>257854421
Games. Games have changed.
But what will never change is nitpicking.
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>>257852936
Don't really see your point Uzbekistan is much drier than Russia.
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>>257854573
Just wait until you play the game. Its gonna be like Zelda all over again.

Fucking Kiefer.. he better not fuck this up.
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>>257854573
Who is he going to talk to?
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>still no codec
oh for fucks sake, where will all of kojima's script go?
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>>257852042
We have a subtropical areas. Like Sochi, for example.
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>>257854674
Here's to hoping. The transition in ground zeroes is a little tough for me to grasp, but he might grow on me.
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>>257854753
Cassette tapes just like in Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes.
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>>257854573

Yes he does? He talks to the horse.
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>>257854421
How do we know that? Did they show tranqed bodies close? Maybe there is hope
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>>257836742
SHOOTING THEM IN THE BUTT KNOCKS THEM OUT REATARD
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Tapes > Codec
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>>257854907
Nah, GZ didn't and none of the TPP footage so far shows darts stuck in them.
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>>257852042
Scotland has places like that on the west coast.

If you can manage to find a position in the gulf stream you can get fine weather, good enough to plan tropical plants. It's definitely NOT tropical though. Not even close
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>>257854979
True.
>>257854989
Oh right, I forgot about GZ. Havent played MGS in a while. What about MGS4 or PW?
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>>257855096
>What about MGS4 or PW?
Pretty sure they weren't in PO, MGS4 and Peace Walker, but I'l admit, I haven't played them for a few years.
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>>257835406
>Get we have an actual thread about the GAMEPLAY? The shit that matters more than anything.
>The shit that matters more than anything.

Gameplay isn't the most important thing in Metal Gear, stop kidding yourself.

MGS4 was the most fun Metal Gear gameplay wise but everyone hates it because it has a full-retard plot and turned Solid Snake into a dying old man. Also, nanomachines.
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>>257854197
Yeah, but tranquilizer is a bit overpowered. All they need to do is give a very small amount of ammo to players, its within surviving genre and it's awesome.
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>>257852108
I always assumed that it took place in the Northern Caucasus because the fortress is called Grozny Grad, so I assumed it was near the city of Grozny. But you're right, there are no tropical jungles in Russia, they simply don't exist.
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>>257855217
>turned Solid Snake into a dying old man
Despite Snake's accelerated again being alluded to in MGS1 and MGS2? Come off it, MGS4's ending was awful, but at least on the surface, the whole aging Snake was one of MGS4's more interesting aspects.
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>>257855189
>>257855096
its a modified gun that shoots electro pulses that knock enemies out. I know, cause I'm a bioweapons engineer.

Also, Russia is nothing but plains and cold. Fact. I'm actually a geographic bioweapons engineer.

Also. The AI is actual AI capable so self learning. I know because I'm an AI geographic bioweapons engineer that taught myself.

Buy an xbone


Sponsored by Microsoft®
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>>257848587
It's the same on consoles. There isn't any UI besides your weapons in the bottom right. It's not unique to PC.
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>>257855217
What is the most important thing then?
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>>257855545
Accelerated aging, rather.
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>>257855407
Friend, the tranq has little ammo on hard. Still easy though
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That whole "sending enemies into the air" thing is retarded as fuck.

What are they thinking? A whole jeep?!
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whos worried about the missions. im hoping its not far cry 2 tier going to camps and killing them or saving a guy or getting a package
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>>257837204
>slow mo
had to be done, I'm assuming, would be frustrating being caught and get alert in the open world without being able to just go to the next area and wait.
>health regen
health regen is always bad in action games, but there is this thing, MGS games always had the name of the protagonist on top of the HP bar, so it's just a theory but maybe partly the reason they didn't want to have HP bar since we don't know what kind of Snake it is.
>>257837372
it's always an issue, take the sense of time, progression and tense away. tho, it's good if you're a casual
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>>257855937
Have you never played Peace Walker?
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>>257855946
>hoping it's not far cry 2 tier
>described far cry 4

Jesus fuck Ubisoft is such shit
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>>257856149
Damn, I loved FC2. If only the game wasnt stupid open world shit.
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>>257854258
but during the time of MSG3 it was true.
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Release date when?
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>>257856465
1984
2017
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>>257835406
If you want to discuss the gameplay I would say that I'm a little on the fence about it. Frankly it doesn't remind me at all of Metal Gear Solid style gameplay. I really found the originals to be a refreshing change from what I had played previously, and I think open areas, free third person camera, and all those sorts of things change the whole dynamic.


However, that being said it still looks pretty interesting because of all the TECHNOLOGY, and no longer being an exclusive I will definitely give it a chance, even if I am not sure if it's going to thrill me in the same way the originals did.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3OzX0tlvn8
>that snakeeating grin at the end
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>>257857189
It still feels like Metal Gear to me and I'm really excited about the gameplay and the story.
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>>257857189
Really? Im getting a distinct MGS3 feel from it, and it feels great
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>>257857189
The gameplay changes with every new game, dude.
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>>257855016
I'm a scot on the west coast, where are these mythical tropical paradises of which you speak?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDxM0sl1OEY
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>>257835406
fucking terrible pop-in issues around 7:10

other than that game looks fuckin' wicked hot
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>>257857189
Just reminds me of MGS3/4 with more stuff.
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>>257849458
Oh you really should, they are very fun
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>>257857292
I don't know anon, it sort of reminds me more of SC, admittedly there is a lot of borrowing of ideas in the genre, but I simply am not sure I feel it anon, sorry.

>>257857437
Hmm really? I can sort of see the "infiltrating the base" thing that 3 really tried to emphasize, and I suppose I could see how this has some of the same principles, but I'm just not sure about it anon.

>>257857465
True, but it generally seemed to follow a pattern of evolution, not throwing out the basics but always improving upon them and changing them, sometimes even changing a large part of the game, but rarely so much so that the original ideas weren't there. I am not sating that it's to that point with this game, but I don't see the strong ties back to the original the other mainline games had.

Maybe I'm wrong because I'm not a long time fan, and I just can't see the big picture, but that's the way I feel anyway.
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I fucking hate the FULTON
I hate it so much. It takes all credibility out of the MGS gameplay for me. It turns it into a comedy. FUCK FULTON
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>>257858163
Did you play Peace Walker?

>>257858517
>MGS
>credibility in gameplay
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>>257858517
fultons are real
better than dragging them to a truck
not in the case of vehicles though, i wish you drove them to a point for them to be picked up instead
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>>257858725
>>257858619
>stealthy infiltration mission
>every single soldier is pulled into the sky by FULTON Recovery
>soldier that is 10 metres away doesn't notice
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>everyone in jeep becomes unconscious
>attach balloon to jeep
>it fucking flies away

I've never played a MGS game before. Is this shit for real?
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Did anyone else get Ocarina of Time vibes while watching that?
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>>257858898
>stealthy infiltration mission
>get caught
>everyone gives up looking for you after less than five minutes

Oh wow MGS isn't worth playing now, it's not credible enough
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>>257858942
Kill you are self

Fucking newshits. Reddit is that way
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>>257858163
I don't know why you feel like this. The only substantial change is the open world environment.
AI feels the same, sneaking looks the same, box is still core, gunplay feels like 3/4
The visual casual mode things like markers and xray are a bit much, but they can be turned off
The core of the game looks exactly like what I'd expect from an MGS title
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>>257837204
Kojima QUALITY
They're drones, anon.
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>>257859018
You're right. Sorry I had interest in this in the first place, you fucking asswipe.
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>>257852752
Still better than all the waah my super srs wargame about super srs bsns has silly elements
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>>257858163
It's an evolution of MGS4 gameplay plus the mission aspect of PW being used right.
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>>257859013
Are you saying that units going back to normal patrol patterns after a set amount of time in a stealth game is the same as them ignoring a huge machine coming down from the sky and grabbing soldiers, animals or whatever to fly away with them?

It takes the tension away, when this fulton-shit comes down the sky every 30 seconds.
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>>257858942

Are you new to this series or something? Stuff like that is what makes these games unique and entertaining.
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