I was gone last night. How BTFO were the anti-Meta Knight fags?
Not much?
I don't remember seeing any anti-Meta Knight crying, raging about this.
Nor we didn't had any storm about this.
>>257761740
Everyone was pretty hype about it.
His gauntlets look pretty cool, too.
everyone knew he would be back. he's looking good
>>257763143
Everybody thought he wasnt in because of the Mii mask, thats why I asked.
>>257763143
>Bitch I will POYO your shit!
>>257763356
>Everybody
Like, one or two retards, maybe.
>>257761740
I don't think there were any anti-Metaknightfags to get blown out tbh
>>257763356
> MEverybody
Why would people think meta knight would be cut?
>>257763805
It's a meme.
SIX MORE YEARS OF DRINKING YOUR TIERS
>SIX MORE YEARS OF DRINKING YOUR TIERS
SIX MORE YEARS OF DRINKING YOUR TIERS
>SIX MORE YEARS OF DRINKING YOUR TIERS
>>257763805
Because he was OP in Brawl and people think it's impossible to rebalance characters for some reason.
implying they're not going to nerf meta knight like they do with all high tiers
>>257763356
Maybe on some other message board where people aren't allowed to call others retards for saying retarded shit.
>>257763886
like Ridley
>>257764197
Not impossible, it's just that Sakurai is too incompetent to do it without fucking up.
Wouldn't it be great if fighting games had lobbies with many people like 16 or something and they could join 4 player games and stuff and you could have like a 4chan lobby and the people could have fun and stuff and everybody would be able to battle each other in the same lobby and stuff wouldn't that be great instead of just a single 2-4 player group?
>>257761740
>implying anyone dislikes metaknight
>>257764371
Yeah he'll be a shell of his former self like Brawl's Fox and Marth.
Come on, did anyone really think one of Sakurai's own children wouldn't make the cut? If anything he'll probably have a brand new Final Smash and a bunch of other shit too, while characters like Wolf and Ganondorf continue to wallow in their cloneness.
>>257764264
Memeley*
>>257764605
Brawl Marth is still A-tier.
>>257761740
Can we talk about how perfect his coloration is?
The hype thread exploded when we found out Meta Knight was revealed about 30 minutes before the site was even updated.
>>257764605
Fox was mediocre in Brawl because of the change in physics and like half the roster above him can perform infinites on him. The physics in Smash 4 are basically the same as Brawl so it probably won't be too much of a change besides removing his glide.
I main Meta Knight, but I can see how he is a bit overpowered. I am afraid they will nerf his skills in SSB4.
>>257765535
Hey at least when you beat people in matches now they cont claim cause you were using SS characters.
>>257765828
Super Saiyan?
>>257765828
Schutzstaffel?
>>257765828
Super Shitty*
>>257765828
Skyward Sword?
there were anti-Meta Knight fags?
Was he confirmed in POTD?
Also, isn't there a Smash direct later this month?
>>257766356
People think he is OP in Brawl, and didn't want him in SSB4.
>>257763143
>he's looking good
He looks almost the exact same. If I didn't know better I'd say this is just a shop using his Brawl model.
Meta Knight.
Feels like a reveal Sakurai would make before the final reveals.
>>257766469
They didn't want him to not come back, they just wanted him to be nerfed into oblivion.
>>257766739
Yeah I guess.
>>257766009
>>257766141
>>257766257
>>257766293
Smooth Sailing, actually.
>>257766637
Nice try guy he has gauntlets eat my DICK
>>257765828
Sword Swallower?
>post yfw sakurai reveals a final direct this friday or next friday
>>257761740
His skin color is too light, it doesn't mesh well with his wings
I don't like this
>>257763143
is it just me or does kirby look rounder? did they use more polygons on him?
This took way too fucking long to reveal.
He was the first newcomer shown in Brawl.
He was made by Sakurai.
Why did we wait this long for him?
>>257764486
>wouldn't it be great if nintendo were a modern day video game company
that would be awesome anon
>>257761740
wait a minute, those wings....
>>257766824
>almost
He has little dents in his shoulder pads and some red stuff on them, too. I realize that.
>>257761740
His wings deconfirmed Ridley(without saying that he was pretty deconfirmed already)
>>257767394
>mfw
>>257767541
Do you think we'll be lucky enough to find another exploit to allow modding like we did in Brawl?
>>257767050
>did they use more polygons on him?
No, he ate them.
>>257765828
>>257766009
>>257766141
>>257766257
>>257766293
Most fighting game tier lists organize tiers by letters.
S tier is usually the highest, with characters in S tier significantly changing the metagame just by existing, but it will sometimes go to SS, or even SSS if there is a character/characters that people who play the game consider to be grossly overpowered, even by the standards of other top tier characters.
Metaknight was SS tier. The criteria for SSS tier is "So good that they render every other character 100% irrelevant" or something, i believe.
>>257767050
Kirby achieved perfect roundness
>>257768862
But A comes before S.
>>257769064
I look for jaggedness but when I think I find something it molds back into perfect round
Reminder that Zelda is still shit.
Reminder that Sakurai can't balance for shit.
>>257764607
You may want to hide your new
Wait, Meta-Knight was confirmed? Fuck shit, I completely missed it until now.
>>257769390
And S comes before X but that didn't stop Sonic.
Come to think of it why isn't there an X tier? If they're that good it can stand for them being banned.
>>257766637
he does look very similar
>>257770737
now that I look at it he isn't as round as kirby either
>>257764607
>implying Wolf won't be cut
what if
luigi is not a clone of mario
but instead
what if
mario
was a clone of luigi?
Luigi feels like an overall better character, much like captain falcon feels like an overall better character than ganondorf. And since ganondorf was in melee AFTER falcon was in 64, hes obviously the clone.
But mario and luigi were in the same game first.
>>257770231
Yup, last night
We got used to the pic of the day being early, and waited a few hours, expecting disappointment
And it what do you know, it was theknight
>>257771713
>it was theknight
That joke is so meta.
>>257771713
I wanted to stay up for the PotD, but I was dead tired. I knew I was going to miss something, and I was right.
>>257771434
You're retarded
>>257766637
Yeah, he does look like meta knight.
>>257768086
>luck
Fortunately it's not a matter of luck.
>>257773895
I mean that's practically 99% Brawl MK's model right there.
>>257761740
Lamest pic of the day ever
>>257774072
well what else would he be?
he's got higher res textures, more polygons, gauntlets, scratches and chips on his armor in some screenshots
Like honestly, what more could you update the model with? He's simple, there's not much detail you could add, be glad he added those gauntlets cause he's never had em
>>257764605
While Marth isnt nearly as good as his Melee self, he's still obnoxiously retarded and even easier to play.
Fox got his shit wrecked
>>257774072
Glove Armor.
So no, not 99%.
Just saiyan.
How long till Memely reclaims his wings from Meta Knight
There were anti-Meta Knight fags?
>>257776128
Because he was fucking broken in Brawl.
>>257774072
What are you talking about, he is alot rounder this game You probably cant tell because of the mask.
>>257771595
You're an idiot.
Why is his right Shoulder Pad sometimes scratched and sometimes not?
>>257766637
Considering how simple he is to begin with, of course they didn't need to do much except up the polys and make the textures better. The gauntlets and shoulderpads are definitely better looking from Brawl, though.
The only cuts I'm expecting are Snake, Squirtle, and Ivysaur. The rest are in. No, Lucas is not getting cut, that was some bullshit by that fake leaker.
>>257776672
>They'll cut Lucas because he's irrelevant and a clone whose moves will become custom moves for Ness and nobody liked Lucas anyway!
It's hilarious, really, some of the shit people come up with to justify wanting a character gone instead of just simply saying the truth and admitting they don't like said character.
I wonder if he'll get his tip-toe run in this.
wheres the movie? The movielist on the site still just shows lucina and Robin(s)
>>257777813
The movies are for newcomers, not oldcomers.
>>257777813
Veterans don't get movies. Except for cameos.
>>257763805
cause mii mask
>>257778041
> oldcomers
ew
So why wasnt he confirmed on friday?What could it mean?
>>257772247
>>257779269
Sakurai is going to reveal the rest of the unconfirmed villains besides Ganondorf and Mewtwo so Tonight is Wolf, tomorrow night is Wario with an announcement of a Newcomer trailer that will be a Villain trailer shocasing Ganondorf with a revamped moveset, Mewtwo, Ghirahim, K.Rool and Ridley.
>>257779553
Fuck you Joshua
>>257780545
plz samurguy
>>257763356
You mean yourself? Fucking retard.
>>257763143
>Project M logo on his shoulder
>>257763886
The only meme in Smash is Pac-Man
>>257767071
They were probably still balancing (nerfing) him
>>257777030
I love Lucas, and mother 3, but if anyone else is getting cut, it's almost certainly him.
>>257764605
>MUH TOP TIERS AIN'T TOP TEIR NO MORE
>meanwhile Sakurai actually lifts shit tier characters from the gutter to make them actual worthy competitors
Games happen, tiers change faggot
>>257769679
>Reminder that Sakurai can't balance for shit.
Reminder that Sakurai won't be the only one balancing this time.
>>257783906
>Zelda
>still remains shit
LOL
His sword still looks like it's the same size. I guess Marth is the only one with a shortened sword.
I find it interesting that his portrait features the wings rather than the cape.
Also, cool gauntlets.
>>257774889
I just saw this screenshot and I'm more happy about the stage than Meta Knight. Dragonite is my favorite pokemon since gen 1 and just knowing he's in this stage makes me so hapy.
>>257781347
Nope. Rosalina's in the game too.
>>257761740
>anti-Meta Knight fags
>>257779269
Maybe he'll reveal a vet every week until the final one where he'll show a newcomer? We're four weeks to release now with another 3 starter vets (IC, Wario and Lucas/Ness) to reveal, that plus a newcomer would be the perfect way to lead up to the release.
I think i have become literally autistic as of this week. I have been seeing meta knight pictures all over /v/ and it fucking now occurs to me that he is in. How can this happen /v/, how can i just scroll and see him but not realizing it.
>>257790043
Did you think he was confirmed a year ago? I sure did.
>>257761740
>anti-Meta Knight fags?
Who?
Seriously, who?
>b-b-but the mask!
The mask was really solid evidence he would be in the game. Just because Sakurai wouldn't make a post that says "I am Metaknight, and I am in this videogame!!!" then go on to disconfirm him.
>>257790379
Me. I wish Sakurai didn't include him in the game, since he was way too overpowered in Brawl. Does the fucking hack even know how to balance a video game? Jesus christ.
>>257790379
like 4 people who were retarded enough to think that a Metaknight Mii cosmetic SOMEHOW meant he was deconfirmed
>>257791382
oh, you're one of THOSE retards who think he somehow couldn't nerf him
>>257767014
>Implying there wont be a reveal a week before the game hits in Japanit would be sooner but street date breakers would kill the hype
>Implying it wont be the trailer to end all trailers
>>257791983
He hasn't been nerfed. The glide was removed, true, but he now hits twice with it to compensate.
>>257792707
That's literally the only change we're aware of so far
we don't know either way, and balance shouldn't affect character inclusion
>>257774889
>Garchomp, Hydreigon, Axew and Dragonite
oh, that's pretty cool. doubt they'll actually do anything, but cool.
>>257792707
We don't really know if that's a nerf or not without knowing damage, or knockback, or any other change to his moveset and physics, let alone that of all the other character. We're basically blind men examining an elephant.
>>257792707
Just because it has a second hit doesn't mean it's improved. The first hit might be a weak hit meant to set up into the strong hit, but that second hit might be difficult to land properly. Who knows?
>>257774889
>>257793281
C-can I join?
>>257793881
Once you ditch that giant bagel, sure.
>>257793327
Remember when we first found out 'tripping' was in Brawl some guy thought it was a pro technique that let you recover faster and tried to get people to call it 'inkdropping' after his username?
This is what I think of when someone says a character hasn't been nerfed based on a text description of one attack.
>Not posting the best snapshot of him yet
>>257793881
>wanting islamence
>>257764605
>OH NO MY FUCKING AIRIELS HAVE BEEN NERFED
>NO I DONT WANT TO EXPLORE HIS OTHER OPTIONS
>>257796605
>mfw I was thinking the same thing
>>257763886
Not sure you know what a meme is
>>257761740
There were anti-Metaknight fags?
I've never liked Kirby games. It's the casual shit of the Nintendo library. Yoshi offers better challenge.
>>257795642
I remember that shit. Hilarious.
If we're talking about balance, the only way to not have Meta Knight completely dominate the game is to slow his movement speed down a notch and make him even lighter and easier to KO than Jigglypuff. That way it's easier to capitalize on a MK player's mistakes.
Otherwise, if he's relatively unchanged from Brawl, he's going to dominate again.
>>257796718
It's a meme to take every minor reference to a character and turn that into ______FAGS ARE BTFO
>>257796796
Go play some Amazing Mirror or Super Star Ultra instead of lusting for Yoshi's gay ass.
>>257796796
*tips kazoo*
>>257766637
>Using 3DS shot for comparison
You fucking idiot
>>257796796
Sure thing buddy, how's those true arena times?
>>257780545
Source?
>>257797871
source is >>257780545's ass
>>257792707
Source of this second hit?
>>257797085
Still looks extremely similar. Only differences I can see in that image are less jaggies, the red something on his shoulder pads, and the gauntlets.
There, it looks like they just straight up ported his model and gave it HD textures. In the 3DS version, it's almost exactly the Brawl one 1:1, even more so.
>>257798338
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAABnUYoD9F25Vw
>>257798338
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAABnUYoD9F25Vw
>>257798338
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAABnUYoD9F25Vw
>>257798357
>400x240 handheld looks like a Wii game
Okay?
>>257764371
>this is what kids born after 2001 actually say when they type online
>>257798545
>>257798562
>>257798732
>>257796907
It's a may may actually
>>257800605
No, I'm pretty sure it's August.
>>257796907
Except Ridleyfags which actually are BTFO
>>257770737
he looks sad in that snapshot
also i see that the other update talks about solo mode, and some of the rewards are something mii-related? could it be the mii hats from the mii plaza that you don't have? could it be that we could get more for the plaza too?
>>257765535
I don't understand why he wants to quit! As long as Ninty exists, he can make stories.
Snake was supposed to be BTFO today. What happened Geoff?
>>257802084
>could it be the mii hats from the mii plaza that you don't have?
Even though the Mii hat designs are taken from Mii Plaza, I bet it's not going to automatically unlock all the ones you had. There probably aren't going to be all 172 hats in the game, either.
It's kinda hard to imagine that the badass sword fighter with bat wings and a deep, manly voice has the same face as kirby under that mask
>>257798357
>still looks extremely similar
right because its like metaknight was somehow gonna look completely different.
jesus christ
Who's nextWho's gone
>>257803205
snaku
pokemon trainer and co
>>257773983
Yeah it's just a matter of getting a full kernel exploit on the Wii U, cracking game encryption, and reverse engineering everything about SSB4
Should be any day now
>>257782603
You mean buffing him for FFA ;)
>>257784513
He was never the only one, according to the E3 Roundtable.
>>257803205
Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are the only ones I'd bet on. Even then, Sakurai could pull some weird shit.
Pokemon Trainer has six different Pokemon, and every one of his attacks summons one of these Pokemon. After that Pokemon attacks, he recalls it. His Pokemon never take damage, but he himself does.
>>257792707
>he now hits twice with it
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
>>257803205
Lucas, Snake, Ivysaur, Squirtle, and one Stairfax rep are gone.
Everyone else is back.
>>257803467
Link to that? I only found the 5 min montage released by Nintendo
>>257767394
HE TORE THAT FUCKERS WINGS RIGHT THE FUCK OFF
>>257803205
Ivysaur, Squirtle, Trainer and Snake are gone. IC, Wario and Lucas will get revealed, the rest will remain secret.
>>257803205
This is best and most likely list
>>257798357
Yes, because they are going to redesign them based solely on nothing you godamn retard
>>257798357
Let's just ignore all the things that look better, is that what you're doing?
>>257787641
Luigi's also in the game. And so is Pikachu.
>>257798357
What, were you wanting a complete fucking redesign of Meta-Knight?
Goddamn some of the people on /v/.
>>257763143
I just realized he's wearing metal sandles
his black feet are showing
>>257804386
>>257804386
No, it's just that they practically reuse his model.
>>257802790
That's why he wears the mask.
>>257804386
They wanted this instead
>>257804717
or this shit
>>257804109
>lucas
>wolf
>rob
>cut
>likely
You are high
>>257804717
Project M. Not even once.
>>257804717
Why did Walhart become a butterfly ball?
>>257804426
Its like metal boots, and he had it like that on brawl too
>>257804717
Wait hold up, is that what it actually looks like in game in PM?
So those renders are all bullshots?
>>257804890
Lucas and Wolf are extremely likely to be cut and ROB is a toss-up.
>>257804881
i kind of wished sakurai would have kept battle damaged skins.
maybe they'll have some in wii u version
>mfw all the 3ds team people will hop over to wii u version to make it the ultimate edition
>>257763143
>tfw he's nowhere near as round as Kirby
>>257805056
>So those renders are all bullshots?
Brawl literally does not have the capability to make a character that high poly. The cracked mask alt looks nothing like this >>257804881 either
In their defense, I think they were trying to imitate Sakurai's high res high detail character renders. I think.
>>257805227
What makes it "extremely likely" that they will get cut?
>>257805227
Lucas isn't because sakurai always prefered him and almost replaces ness with him two times
>b-but japan only
Prince of sable and takamaru are AT, not to mention they are old as fuck
Also sakurai wanted wolf in smash since 64
>>257805318
>Bunch of E-rated cartoon characters in a super colorful platformer
>Have to watch their clothes get torn up and get covered in bruises and bandages
Horrible idea.
>>257804680
Well no shit sherlock. He's Meta-Knight, why would they use a model that ISN'T META-KNIGHT.
What were you wanting? They polished it up too, my favorite addition is the metal plating to his gloves.
>>257805368
Lucas is pretty damn irrelevant. If Lucas got reworked some way, maybe he'd be back.
But Wolf is just a fucking shit character. Pretty irrelevant until this new Starfox comes out, too.
>>257805721
Also we already have Falco and Fox, we don't need Wolf, too.
>>257805547
>Game has been T rated since Melee
>Everyone playable bar Snake first appeared in E rated games
Hwat
I would argue mk needs some nerfs in this new game. I think tornado needs nerfs and his recovery. I think project m nerfed him preety well. I also think the cast needs tools to deal with him imo mk was super strong in brawl due to bad balanceing on most of the characters
>>257805854
I don't know what you're saying, could you elaborate
Smash 4 is E10+, by the way though.
>>257764486
We have that in MK8
>>257798357
so besides the improvements, he's not improved at all?
>>257805361
Well that's understandable, I knew they were renders and in game would look worse
But damn it is a big difference, seems pretty misleading, specially when people put them against smash 4 alts which are in game screenshots
>>257771595
>tripfags knowing anything
Holy shit. Calling you retarded would be an understatement.
>>257771595
Mario was playable first.
Luigi is the clone. Luigi is also very low tier in 64.
>>257806082
Everyone in the playable cast bar Snake first debuted in E-rated games, but for some reason Brawl and Melee are T rated.
>>257761740
>anti-Meta Knight fags
This is not a thing, you cancer.
>>257806871
They're T rated because the games focus so much more on sheer violence than the source materials do. I'm just saying that I wouldn't enjoy having to see all these characters get busted up and visually injured for most of the game time.
>Meta Knight
>Has Ridley wings
META RIDLEY CONFIRMED!
>>257767050
for your compare and contrast pleasure
>>257803205
Jigglypuff, Ness, Wario, and then one new character. Maybe that'd be it?
What if they had Pokemon Trainer with Squirtle, Jigglypuff, and Mewtwo? Purin's down b would replace it's up b and the up b would replace the b.
>>257809295
he's talking kirby compared to MK in the picture he replied to
Meta Knight does seem to be more jagged, gotta have all those mask, wing and gauntlet polygons so he can't be as round
>>257764197
I hope that his balance fixes make him more fun to play. I love the character, but his playstyle did not fit me at all.
>>257807458
>Meta Knight
>Meta Ridley
>Metagross
things are occuring
>>257803205
Ice Climbers in two weeks time.
Wario the week before the game releases in Japan.
Ness, Jigglypuff, Falco, G&W, Ganondorf, RBO, and Wolf unlockable along with three-four newcomers
Lucas's PSI moves given to Ness for custom moves
Snake, Ivysaur and Squirtle out.
>>257805227
>Ike, Lucario and Toon Link are extremely likely to be cut and Zero Suit Samus is a toss-up
This was you a few months ago, that's why nobody likes underaged cutfags
OH YEAH MY MAN METAKNIGHT!
2 more months!
>>257805721
>Lucas is pretty damn irrelevant.
Relevancy is completelyirrelevant.Retro characters are a very clear indicator of this.
>But they're retro, that's the whole point!
Yeah, the whole point of retro characters is COMPLETE IRRELEVANCY.
>>257761740
I hope meta knight wasn't nerfed, just so i can drink competitivefag tears, since he isn't broken unless you're really really good
>>257812343
>Two glides
>transcendent priorty on all but one move
>good kill power
>Disjointed hitboxes everywhere
>Has two different ways of becoming literally invincible for as long as the player likes
>Fast as fuck
No he was broken at almost every level
>>257813182
>good kill power
i remember meta knight being pretty weak as far as KO moves go other than his up special, and that's pretty hard to hit with
>Has two different ways of becoming literally invincible for as long as the player likes
not invincible, he can still be stopped and damaged
and he's pretty light and easy to kill
i'm not denying that he's a great character but he's hardly worthy of
"OMG SO OP BAN FROM ALL TOURNAMENTS"
doesn't even begin to compare to the ice climbers
>>257798357
OBVIOUS CHANGES;
>Higher Res
>Brighter color scheme, especially wings
>metal gauntlets
NOT-SO-OBVIOUS CHANGES;
>Lighting overhaul
>Sides of the visor have been brought in a bit
>Eyes now have shading to account for the visor
>Right Pauldron has a few chinks in it, boots have light scratches, mask has scratches in the middle above the visor and is missing a small chunk in the upper right corner(Pic related, these features seem to disappear from picture to picture so this may be a battle damage feature)
>Textures for the Pauldrons are greatly improved
>Mask now looks more like a piece of metal
>Meta Knight symbol on left Pauldron is more pronounced
Meta Knight clearly went through some work. He's pretty simplistic as it is, so I think it's impressive that they got this much detail into him.
>>257761740
They were completely BTFO because they all hid by pretending like they knew he was in the game the whole time.
>>257783906
I'm hoping heavy characters are top tier this time around. Speedy fuckers don't deserve to be shit.
>>257804717
>>257804915
>>257805014
Just some putting some info out there. I don't really have an opinion on whether the costume is good or not
>>257816294
Ah, who could forget when Meta Knight was red and a bug.
I did, because up until the release of the artbook, nobody knew about that design.
They picked a design that nobody knew over other designs that would've worked just as well.
>>257817007
They wanted to do something different.
>>257816294
That would've been just as cool
>>257817598
So what's with Dr. Mario, Dry Bowser and Mr. L? I can get those on Brawl Vault.
>People actually thought Ike, Meta Knight and Captain Falcon were going to be cut
>People still think Ganondorf is going to be cut for Ghirahim
It's like cutting Bowser and replacing him with a Koopaling or Bowser. Jr. You're cutting a main staple of the series for a lesser known character
>>257817007
which artbook? the one that came with the kirby collection for wii?
now that i think, that's the only artbook they have released of kirby
>>257761740
There's no actual anti-Metaknight fags and Sakurai decided to post him two hours later than normal so you didn't get the usual shitposting either.
>>257818217
There was a Japan-only one as well.
>>257818351
>There's no actual anti-Metaknight fags
This is the worst part. People pretending to be retarded are still retards.
>>257817949
You gotta mix the obvious with the cool shit, like HectIke here.
>>257818674
I just don't see why people praise these alternate costumes so much. For the most part, it's just your average mod. Like this, I found a Claus outfit fron 2011.
>people thinking snake will be cut
>after the huge announcement mgs 5 is coming to steam
>>257819387
>Game that was exclusive to all non-nintendo consoles is announced for PC, another non-nintendo platform
>Shows no signs of being on the WiiU
>OMG U GUIZE SNAK CUNFERMD
>>257819241
Because people feel they need to express themselves or some stupid shit by dressing up their characters.
